Hello, My first guess is that the correct name was William, but so badly pronounced when registered that it has been written as Ouelleram by the responsible officer. Best regards Reynold Chollet ----- Original Message ----- From: "markoe" <markoejohn519@gmail.com> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.west-indies To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:40 PM Subject: [Carib] "Ouelleram" Crequi 1680's French St. Martin > There are three Crequis listed at St. Martin 1680's: Jacques, Pierre > and one whose given name appears to be "Ouelleram". Cannot find that > name anywhere in any language and wonder if it might not be a > description of some kind. The list they appear on is quite legible. > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Laura: thank you for that. Eliza Pile is one of mine (a 5th cousin)! However her father's name was Richard Parris Pile. He moved with his family from Barbados to Philadelphia in 1837 and died there in 1847. His wife, Eastmond, nee Barrow was still living in Washington in 1887. Eliza married (her cousin) Conrade Pile in Washington D.C. in 1847, but they obviously returned to Barbados as their children were all baptised there from 1847 on, and Eliza died in Bdos in 1916. However, her younger sister Eastmond Pile who was born in Washington in 1841, married very well indeed! Her husband was Osceola C. Green, "the son of John Green & Ann Forrest (1790-1870); The Forrest family owned Twin Oaks Estate, now the Taiwan Embassy" (and which Osceola inherited; his wife sold it in 1888 to a Bostonian, Gardiner Green Hubbard). "Considered the largest privately owned estate in Washington, D.C., Twin Oaks, which is nearly the size of the White House compound, was placed on the National Register for Historic Sites on Feb. 5, 1986 in recognition of its storied past and architectural significance." Lots more interesting detail on the Forrest family and Twin Oaks can be found with a Google search. -----Original Message----- From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LALDERSON@nc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:09 PM To: Caribbean List Subject: [Carib] 2 of 2 -- Girls to Moravian School 1786-1882 Folks, Yesterday I began the list of girls from the Caribbean who attended the Moravian School in Bethlehem, PA. Here is the last part of that list. It includes students from Barbadoes, Jamiaca, and St. Croix (West Indies. I hope someone can connect. The list is gleaned from the book entitled "A history of the Moravian seminary for young ladies: at Bethlehem,Pa," by William Cornelius Reichel, William Howard Bigler, Joseph Mortimer Levering, 4th ed.,1901. ... Cheers, Laura 1837 Pile, Eliza, d. of R. S. Pile, Philadelphia, m. Conrad Pile; r. in Barbadoes, W. I.

Folks, Yesterday I began the list of girls from the Caribbean who attended the Moravian School in Bethlehem, PA. Here is the last part of that list. It includes students from Barbadoes, Jamiaca, and St. Croix (West Indies). I hope someone can connect. The list is gleaned from the book entitled "A history of the Moravian seminary for young ladies: at Bethlehem, Pa," by William Cornelius Reichel, William Howard Bigler, Joseph Mortimer Levering, 4th ed., 1901. (Not sure if my list is complete, so it may be interesting to check out the source itself.) There are lovely stories regarding the West Indies in the book, including names of sea captains who sailed there (carrying missionaries) plus a sweet and detailed reminiscence written by one of the youngest pupils, "Peggy" (Margaret C) Vriehuis of St. John. Some people may be able to view the book online. Go to Google Books and click Advanced Search. Put in the full title of the book and select "Full View." If it is available, it will come up. Cheers, Laura 1836 Ricksecker, Emma, d. of Rev. P. Richsecker West Indies. m. May 27, 1852, Rev. D. Z. Smith, Sharon, Ohio. 1837 Pile, Eliza, d. of R. S. Pile, Philadelphia, m. Conrad Pile; r. in Barbadoes, W. I. 1844 Klose, Louisa, d. of Rev. J. G. Close, Barbadoes, W. I., d. Mary 21, 1862, as teacher in the Seminary. Zorn, Sarah. M., d. of Rev. Jacob Zorn, Jamaica, W. I., m. July 22, 1858, Rev. Eugene M. Leibert, Nazareth, Pa. 1846 Steinhauer, Agnes, d. of Daniel Steinhauer, Jamaica W. I., m. Thomas Robinson, Virginia 1848 Ricksecker, Edwina, d. of Rev. P. Ricksecker West Inides. r. in Bethlehem, Pa. r. Washington, D.C. 1850 Chapman, Elizabeth, d. of Mrs. Daughtry, Jamaica, W. I., m. Rev. Mr. Nattall, Jamaica, W. I. Chapman, Charlotte S., d. of Mrs. Daughtry, Jamaica, W. I., m. Rev. Mr. Panton, Jamaica, W. I. Prince, Charlotte, d. of Rev. Wm. Prince, West Indies, r. in Hannibal, MO. 1858 Grant, Grave M., Jamaica, W. I., w [ward] of Thomas H. Faile, New York, m. J. M. Shrewsbury, Germantown, Pa. Grant, Agnes J., Jamaica, W. I., w [ward] of Thomas H. Faile, New York, r. in Philadelphia, Pa. 1865 Lichtenthaeler, R. Lavinia, d. of rev. A. Lichtenthaeler, Jamaica, W. I., r. in Los Angeles, Cal. 1873 Reinke, Mary, d. of Rev. E. E. Reinke, Jamaica, W. I., m. May 9, 1899, John D. Kernick, Esq., B. A., Carttab, Jamaica, W. I. 1878 Reinke, Susie I, d. of Rev. E. E. Reinke May Hill, W.I., m. 1886 George D. Fulford, Jamaica, West Indies 1882 Romig, Georgine W. d. of Bishop Bej. Romig, St. Croix, W. Indies, m. July 7, 1892, Rev. Aug. Westphal; r. in Fairfield, Jamaica, W.I.

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There are three Crequis listed at St. Martin 1680's: Jacques, Pierre and one whose given name appears to be "Ouelleram". Cannot find that name anywhere in any language and wonder if it might not be a description of some kind. The list they appear on is quite legible.

Hi Laura: I'm afraid those of us who live in Canada cannot download this book. Many of the books that Google scans and puts on line are not available to people in Canada because of copyright issues. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <LALDERSON@nc.rr.com> To: "Caribbean List" <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: [Carib] 1 of 2 -- Girls to Moravian School 1786-1882 > Hello, everyone, > Here is a wealth of information about what became of some of the > girls from the Caribbean. Girls are so hard to trace, and this source > sometimes gives birth and death dates, father's names, married names, > and places of residence later in life. > > As many know, there is a strong connection between St. Croix and the > Moravian schools in Nazareth & Bethlehem, PA. A history of the girls' > school is now online. I first searched "West Indies," "Barbadoes," > and "Jamaica" in the book, and then came across girls from other > islands. So this may not be complete. > > The book is: A history of the Moravian seminary for young ladies: at > Bethlehem, Pa, by William Cornelius Reichel, William Howard Bigler, > Joseph Mortimer Levering, 4th ed., 1901. > > It is online at: > http://books.google.com/books?id=LJMWAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=A+history+of+the+Moravian+seminary+for+young+ladies:+at+Bethlehem,+Pa#v > =onepage&q=&f=false > > Of the early students, the book relates, "Their acquaintance with the > Brethren's missionaries among the slaves induced wealthy planters of > the West Indies to send their daughters from home to be educated in > Moravian seminaries; and . . . several young laides were received into > the school from the three islands St. Jan, St. Croix, and St. Thomas. > The first of these was Miss Peggy Vriehuis. . . " [Margaret C. > Vriehuis of St. John's, arrived when she was 8 years old.] > > This account mentions that she "had been intrusted by her parents to a > faithful negress who not only made the long voyage with her mistress, > but also remained at Bethlehem until the latter had become reconciled > to strange faces. . ." She is identified as Mintji; she was given her > own room, and "here she was wont to sit on her high-backed chair, her > head turbaned with a gay cotton kerchief, plying her needles as she > prepared the warm clothing for her little mistress. . . In October, > she returned to the West Indies." > > Some of the girls are listed here. I believe, but am not certain, the > year indicates the year of first attendance rather than the customary > "class of." > > 1786 > Reichelt, Caroline Sophia, b. Oct 13, 1780. d. of Rev. C. G. Reichelt > West Indies. m. Aug 30, 18-8 Rev. Jacob Loeffler, d. June 20, 1849, at > Litiz, PA. > > 1787 > Blakely, Amelia Louis, b. Jan. 28, 1775, d. of J. Blakely, Baltimore, > d. March 17, 1794, in Barbadoes [Barbados] > Beaumont, Maria, , b. June 28, 1778, St. Croix, West Indies, d. Dec 2, > 1816, in Bethlehem > Beaumont, Elizabeth, b. Feb. 14, 1781, St. Croix, West Indies, m. -- > Ebbesen, St. Croix > Vriehuis, Margaret Catharine, b. Jan. 29, 1780, d. of D. J. Vriehuis, > MD, St. Jan, W. I., m. Feb. 23, 1796, Isaac A. Knevels, MD, d. Feb 22, > 1847. > > Regarding Beaumont: and also Caroline Henkel: > "On the 15th of November, 1816, Miss Carolina Henkel, from the West > Indies, the youngest pupil in the institution, was removed by death, > after a short illness. She was followed, on the 1d of December of the > same year, by Miss Maria C. Beaumont, an accomplished lady and beloved > tutoress. Miss Beaumont, daughter of a West India planter, entered the > seminary in 1787. > > 1789 > Kummer, Maria Elizabeth, b. Dec. 17, 1784, d. of Rev. John Kummer, > St. Croix, W.I., d. April 22, 1851 in Bethlehem > McLaughlin, Mary, b. Nov. 18, 1781, d. of Mrs. Mary Cronenberg, St. > Croix, I. W., m. -- Leinberg > Schneller, Rachel, b. Dec. 13, 1784, d. of reb. G. C. Schneller, St. > Kitts, W. I., m. Oct 20, 1803, Wm. Van Wagenen, New York. > > 1795 > Davidson, Elizabeth, b July 29, 1786, d of George Davidson M. D. St. > Vincents, W. I., m. Penet, West Indies. > > 1812 > Siewers, Caroline, b. May 8, 1807. D. of Rev. Henry F. Siewers, St. > Johns, W. I., m. June 1, 1828, Rev. Jacob Zorn, Jamaica, W. I., d. > Aug. 28, 1862, Bethlehem, Pa. > > 1816 > Henkel, Caroline, St. Croix, West Indies, d. Nov. 15, 1816, in the > seminary [died at age 8] > > 1824 > Allison, Amelia Sophia, b. Jan. 19, 1812. d. of Rev. Burgess Allison, > Bordentown, N. J., m. John McNeal, d. 1830, in Jamaica, W. I. > > 1825 > Berg, Eliza, b. May 28, 1817, d. of Rev. D. F. Berg of Barbadoes, W. > I, m. Edward Brown, Indiana. d. Oct. 1867 at Mt. Vernon, Ind. > > --Cheers, > Laura > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, everyone, Here is a wealth of information about what became of some of the girls from the Caribbean. Girls are so hard to trace, and this source sometimes gives birth and death dates, father's names, married names, and places of residence later in life. As many know, there is a strong connection between St. Croix and the Moravian schools in Nazareth & Bethlehem, PA. A history of the girls' school is now online. I first searched "West Indies," "Barbadoes," and "Jamaica" in the book, and then came across girls from other islands. So this may not be complete. The book is: A history of the Moravian seminary for young ladies: at Bethlehem, Pa, by William Cornelius Reichel, William Howard Bigler, Joseph Mortimer Levering, 4th ed., 1901. It is online at: http://books.google.com/books?id=LJMWAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=A+history+of+the+Moravian+seminary+for+young+ladies:+at+Bethlehem,+Pa#v =onepage&q=&f=false Of the early students, the book relates, "Their acquaintance with the Brethren's missionaries among the slaves induced wealthy planters of the West Indies to send their daughters from home to be educated in Moravian seminaries; and . . . several young laides were received into the school from the three islands St. Jan, St. Croix, and St. Thomas. The first of these was Miss Peggy Vriehuis. . . " [Margaret C. Vriehuis of St. John's, arrived when she was 8 years old.] This account mentions that she "had been intrusted by her parents to a faithful negress who not only made the long voyage with her mistress, but also remained at Bethlehem until the latter had become reconciled to strange faces. . ." She is identified as Mintji; she was given her own room, and "here she was wont to sit on her high-backed chair, her head turbaned with a gay cotton kerchief, plying her needles as she prepared the warm clothing for her little mistress. . . In October, she returned to the West Indies." Some of the girls are listed here. I believe, but am not certain, the year indicates the year of first attendance rather than the customary "class of." 1786 Reichelt, Caroline Sophia, b. Oct 13, 1780. d. of Rev. C. G. Reichelt West Indies. m. Aug 30, 18-8 Rev. Jacob Loeffler, d. June 20, 1849, at Litiz, PA. 1787 Blakely, Amelia Louis, b. Jan. 28, 1775, d. of J. Blakely, Baltimore, d. March 17, 1794, in Barbadoes [Barbados] Beaumont, Maria, , b. June 28, 1778, St. Croix, West Indies, d. Dec 2, 1816, in Bethlehem Beaumont, Elizabeth, b. Feb. 14, 1781, St. Croix, West Indies, m. -- Ebbesen, St. Croix Vriehuis, Margaret Catharine, b. Jan. 29, 1780, d. of D. J. Vriehuis, MD, St. Jan, W. I., m. Feb. 23, 1796, Isaac A. Knevels, MD, d. Feb 22, 1847. Regarding Beaumont: and also Caroline Henkel: "On the 15th of November, 1816, Miss Carolina Henkel, from the West Indies, the youngest pupil in the institution, was removed by death, after a short illness. She was followed, on the 1d of December of the same year, by Miss Maria C. Beaumont, an accomplished lady and beloved tutoress. Miss Beaumont, daughter of a West India planter, entered the seminary in 1787. 1789 Kummer, Maria Elizabeth, b. Dec. 17, 1784, d. of Rev. John Kummer, St. Croix, W.I., d. April 22, 1851 in Bethlehem McLaughlin, Mary, b. Nov. 18, 1781, d. of Mrs. Mary Cronenberg, St. Croix, I. W., m. -- Leinberg Schneller, Rachel, b. Dec. 13, 1784, d. of reb. G. C. Schneller, St. Kitts, W. I., m. Oct 20, 1803, Wm. Van Wagenen, New York. 1795 Davidson, Elizabeth, b July 29, 1786, d of George Davidson M. D. St. Vincents, W. I., m. Penet, West Indies. 1812 Siewers, Caroline, b. May 8, 1807. D. of Rev. Henry F. Siewers, St. Johns, W. I., m. June 1, 1828, Rev. Jacob Zorn, Jamaica, W. I., d. Aug. 28, 1862, Bethlehem, Pa. 1816 Henkel, Caroline, St. Croix, West Indies, d. Nov. 15, 1816, in the seminary [died at age 8] 1824 Allison, Amelia Sophia, b. Jan. 19, 1812. d. of Rev. Burgess Allison, Bordentown, N. J., m. John McNeal, d. 1830, in Jamaica, W. I. 1825 Berg, Eliza, b. May 28, 1817, d. of Rev. D. F. Berg of Barbadoes, W. I, m. Edward Brown, Indiana. d. Oct. 1867 at Mt. Vernon, Ind. --Cheers, Laura

Thank you for your detailed explanation Ernest. I really appreciate your assistance. Regards Marg Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest M. Wiltshire" <murcot@synapse.net> To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: [Carib] Ordering birth certifictaes form the Barbados RegistrationDepartment > Since there may be others with similar questions on ordering birth > certificates from the Barbados Registration Department, I shall quote here > from Geraldine Lane's "Tracing Ancestors in Barbados" and hope that will > be > of some help. (This book is inexpensive and is an invaluable aid for > anyone > doing serious research on Barbados families). > Ernest Wiltshire > > The address is as follows: > The Barbados Registration Department > Supreme Court of Barbados > Law Courts > Coleridge Street > Bridgetown > Barbados > Telephone (246) 426-3461 > FAX (246) 426-2405 > Opening hours: Mon-Fri 8.30 a.m. to 4 p.m. > > Excerpts pps 19-21. > "... It is helpful when you approach staff at the Registration Department > for help in retrieving records, if you can give them as much information > as > possible about the people you are looking for. These are not easy records > to > access and any details gathered from family papers and relatives will make > the task easier. > Contents of the records > Births > Registration of births began in 1890 and the information given has changed > slightly over time. A certificate will have columns for the following, > some > or all of which will be completed: > When born; name; sex; name and surname of father; name and maiden name of > mother; place of residence and occupation of both parents; date > registered; > name and abode of informant. > > ...If you are based outside Barbados you should write, fax or phone (no > email is available); > > ... A staff member will conduct a brief search of the records held on > computer and you should provide as much of the following information as > possible: > Birth > The person's name, date of birth, names of parents and parish of birth. > The cost of certificates is currently as follows: birth B$1, death $B$5, > cause of death B$10, marriage B$10 if at least one party was a citizen of > Barbados or $20 if neither party was a citizen. ... > > Births can be confusing since up to about 1970 they are listed by the name > of the parent or parents rather than the child's name. So if you know the > child's name but not the names of the parent/parents you will not be able > to > use these records*. An alternative is the baptism records, which are > indexed > under the child's name. These are held in the same office and can be seen > by > the public." > > *[Geraldine was referring here to people doing research themselves, but > when > ordering from abroad it might be wise to specify that a baptism record > would > be an acceptable alternative: the baptism certificate usually gives the > birth date as well as the baptism date]. EW > -----Original Message----- > From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Marg Smith > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:05 AM > To: caribbean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > A big thank you to Ernest (and your very reliable informant), Rory and > Augusta for your information and input. > On Google Maps I have now found the district of New Orleans, St Michael, > Bridgetown, Barbados! Yes, just a little bit more info helps! > I have also looked at the Department of Archives website, but realise we > must start at the Registration Department. The links to this department > and > the http://lawcourts.gov.bb/ website seem to have little advice re > ordering > certificates. The Ministry for Foreign Affairs and Trade at > http://www.foreign.gov.bb/pageselect.cfm?page=110 have directions and a > form > > for ordering, however I cannot find any information re: > * what information will be on a birth certificate (born 1937 New Orleans, > St > > Michael, Bridgetown, Barbados)? > * can anyone order a birth certificate from the Registration Department, > or > is there (like most countries) a restriction (eg: in Australia we cannot > purchase a certificate for anyone born after 1908, with certain exceptions > of course) > * can you order online, or over the phone, with credit card, if you know > the > > date of birth?? > Hopefully we can obtain more information from the gentleman himself, > however, we are not sure as yet whether he is very interested!! > Thank you again everyone > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Henry" <r1henry@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "Rita Henry" <r1henry@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:44 AM Subject: Fw: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rita Henry" <r1henry@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: "Marge Smith" <msmith47@tpy.com.au> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > > >> Hi Marg, >> I was born in St Vincent, all my Ancestors came from Scotland , >> Ireland, England, some from Portugal, but I have heard a lot of my Elders >> of the family stories about their Life time and their Family life , while >> there, were in Barbados as almost all of my, almost all of my Family went >> over to St Vincent from, Barbados, The only [ NEW ORLEANS ] I have heard >> of is in America, the South I think, Louisanna,You did not give any >> Surname to names at all, to time period, that would be very helpful if >> you give those, as then some one might be able to help you out, as I have >> help many others, with names and did search for them to help them out, >> While I am here have you all, in Australia, have a Roots web site, As >> some of my family went to Australia, but I can't make any connections, I >> know one of my Mother brothers went there in the early 50s, the names I >> am looking for are, GILL'S / GREAVES / GIBSON'S / MURPHY'S / GOODMAN'S / >> MOFFORD'S / HINKSON'S , DEAR'S / MARSHALL'S / and a few more, if you have >> a Web Site that can post Messages on could you PLEASE email , me direct, >> with it, and if you can Throw some names, and time frame to me that the >> Family went from Barbados, I might be able to help you out, as I have a >> CD Rom with all the information from Barbados Archives from, 1500 to >> 1800, any thing before and after I sends to Barbados then to St Vincent, >> to check out,I live in the UK , now, Who knows maybe I can help you out, >> about my " 5 "gr-grandparents names was SMITH, I have them from in >> Barbados, Talk to you some Time, if you get this and you like to reply I >> will do my best to see if I can Help you out, I started my Genealogy in >> 1983, and still doing it, !!!!!!!! >> GOD BLESSINGS BE WITH YOU ALL< AND YOUR FAMILIES> >> Rita Henry MURPHY >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> >> To: <CARIBBEAN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:44 AM >> Subject: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies >> >> >>> Hi List Members >>> >>> I am attempting to help my daughter-in-law trace her family history. She >>> has had some discussions with her father, who has returned to Barbados, >>> but are we being misled ?? >>> >>> Is there an area known as "New Orleans" somewhere in the West Indies as >>> this is what we are told is the birth place of her father?? >>> >>> His year of birth was 1937, so perhaps area names have changed since >>> then?? I have had no luck with an advanced Google search, and his year >>> of birth is out of the year range for filmed LDS birth / baptism >>> records, so we thought we would start with the "New Orleans" question!! >>> >>> Any assistance greatly appreciated >>> Marg Smith >>> Mardi, NSW >>> Australia >>> *************************** >>> The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and >>> Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> > >

A big thank you to Ernest (and your very reliable informant), Rory and Augusta for your information and input. On Google Maps I have now found the district of New Orleans, St Michael, Bridgetown, Barbados! Yes, just a little bit more info helps! I have also looked at the Department of Archives website, but realise we must start at the Registration Department. The links to this department and the http://lawcourts.gov.bb/ website seem to have little advice re ordering certificates. The Ministry for Foreign Affairs and Trade at http://www.foreign.gov.bb/pageselect.cfm?page=110 have directions and a form for ordering, however I cannot find any information re: * what information will be on a birth certificate (born 1937 New Orleans, St Michael, Bridgetown, Barbados)? * can anyone order a birth certificate from the Registration Department, or is there (like most countries) a restriction (eg: in Australia we cannot purchase a certificate for anyone born after 1908, with certain exceptions of course) * can you order online, or over the phone, with credit card, if you know the date of birth?? Hopefully we can obtain more information from the gentleman himself, however, we are not sure as yet whether he is very interested!! Thank you again everyone Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest M. Wiltshire" <murcot@synapse.net> To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > > Hello Marg: (is that Gibson???). No you are not being misled. There is > indeed a district called New Orleans, in the parish of St. Michael, and in > fact that is where several famous Barbadian cricketers were born, Sir > Clyde > Walcott(one of the 3 Ws)& his older brother Keith Walcott; also George > Griffith who played for Cambridge University. [Sir Clyde's grandmother > lived > next door to my great grandmother in Bank Hall]. Will try and pin down the > exact location for you. > > What is the name of your dau in law's father? I can see if I can find > anything on him in my records. > Regards > Ernest Wiltshire > > -----Original Message----- > From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Marg Smith > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:44 AM > Subject: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > ... I am attempting to help my daughter-in-law trace her family history. > She > has had some discussions with her father, who has returned to Barbados, > but > are we being misled ?? > Is there an area known as "New Orleans" somewhere in the West Indies as > this > is what we are told is the birth place of her father?? > His year of birth was 1937, so perhaps area names have changed since > then?? > I have had no luck with an advanced Google search, and his year of birth > is > out of the year range for filmed LDS birth / baptism records, so we > thought > we would start with the "New Orleans" question!! > Any assistance greatly appreciated > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Since there may be others with similar questions on ordering birth certificates from the Barbados Registration Department, I shall quote here from Geraldine Lane's "Tracing Ancestors in Barbados" and hope that will be of some help. (This book is inexpensive and is an invaluable aid for anyone doing serious research on Barbados families). Ernest Wiltshire The address is as follows: The Barbados Registration Department Supreme Court of Barbados Law Courts Coleridge Street Bridgetown Barbados Telephone (246) 426-3461 FAX (246) 426-2405 Opening hours: Mon-Fri 8.30 a.m. to 4 p.m. Excerpts pps 19-21. "... It is helpful when you approach staff at the Registration Department for help in retrieving records, if you can give them as much information as possible about the people you are looking for. These are not easy records to access and any details gathered from family papers and relatives will make the task easier. Contents of the records Births Registration of births began in 1890 and the information given has changed slightly over time. A certificate will have columns for the following, some or all of which will be completed: When born; name; sex; name and surname of father; name and maiden name of mother; place of residence and occupation of both parents; date registered; name and abode of informant. ...If you are based outside Barbados you should write, fax or phone (no email is available); ... A staff member will conduct a brief search of the records held on computer and you should provide as much of the following information as possible: Birth The person's name, date of birth, names of parents and parish of birth. The cost of certificates is currently as follows: birth B$1, death $B$5, cause of death B$10, marriage B$10 if at least one party was a citizen of Barbados or $20 if neither party was a citizen. ... Births can be confusing since up to about 1970 they are listed by the name of the parent or parents rather than the child's name. So if you know the child's name but not the names of the parent/parents you will not be able to use these records*. An alternative is the baptism records, which are indexed under the child's name. These are held in the same office and can be seen by the public." *[Geraldine was referring here to people doing research themselves, but when ordering from abroad it might be wise to specify that a baptism record would be an acceptable alternative: the baptism certificate usually gives the birth date as well as the baptism date]. EW -----Original Message----- From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marg Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:05 AM To: caribbean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies A big thank you to Ernest (and your very reliable informant), Rory and Augusta for your information and input. On Google Maps I have now found the district of New Orleans, St Michael, Bridgetown, Barbados! Yes, just a little bit more info helps! I have also looked at the Department of Archives website, but realise we must start at the Registration Department. The links to this department and the http://lawcourts.gov.bb/ website seem to have little advice re ordering certificates. The Ministry for Foreign Affairs and Trade at http://www.foreign.gov.bb/pageselect.cfm?page=110 have directions and a form for ordering, however I cannot find any information re: * what information will be on a birth certificate (born 1937 New Orleans, St Michael, Bridgetown, Barbados)? * can anyone order a birth certificate from the Registration Department, or is there (like most countries) a restriction (eg: in Australia we cannot purchase a certificate for anyone born after 1908, with certain exceptions of course) * can you order online, or over the phone, with credit card, if you know the date of birth?? Hopefully we can obtain more information from the gentleman himself, however, we are not sure as yet whether he is very interested!! Thank you again everyone Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia

The two sites below may be of interest for those interested in the founding in 1718 of New Orleans itself. I dont know when the one in Barbados got its name but if it was after that they I guess it was borrowed from the US town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans http://www.madere.com/history.html Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest M. Wiltshire" <murcot@synapse.net> To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > Hi Augusta: I have no idea where the name comes from or how far back it > dates, but my very reliable informant has just sent me the following info: > > ..."Yes, there is a district called New Orleans situated between St. > Leonard's Secondary School and Baxter's Road, St. Michael...." > > That is in the capital, Bridgetown; and he adds that it is now a very > poverty stricken neighbourhood where there was much conflict in the 1990s > between police and drug gangs! Sound familiar? > > That would certainly not have been the case in the 1920s and 1930s, the > drug > culture being a very recent phenomenon, but one that has had devastating > effects in so many Caribbean territories. So much for "progress". > Ernest > > -----Original Message----- > From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Augusta Elmwood > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:56 PM > To: caribbean@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > If I may jump in here... why was it named New Orleans? Do you suppose at > some time a group of N.O. natives re-settled there & gave it that name? > Interesting! It's a good thing we have all you erudites on this list or > Marge would probably be climbing up the wrong tree! Hooray for networking > and the internet and all the good people of the Caribbean List ! > Thanks, > Augusta in... > the OTHER New Orleans :-) > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers New Orleans takes its name from a city in France: Orleans situated on the Loire. It is ancient, existing prior to the Roman era, During the Middle Ages it was a small kingdom. It was most important for it's location along the River, which for much of its early modern history allowed very substantial shipping. With the exception of names derived from indian languages, US place names usually were taken from european sources. Since most of the West Indies were well established sooner (exceptions: St Augustine, New Amsterdam, Boston) the mainland is seldom a source of names for the islands. For instance "Boston" in eastern Jamaica was firstly a plantation name for a place in England. Later the area adopted the name of the plantation. Assumptions can be quite dangerous in the Gen game... fun thread ChrisCod -----Original Message----- From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Richard Oliver Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:33 AM To

Hi Augusta: I have no idea where the name comes from or how far back it dates, but my very reliable informant has just sent me the following info: ..."Yes, there is a district called New Orleans situated between St. Leonard's Secondary School and Baxter's Road, St. Michael...." That is in the capital, Bridgetown; and he adds that it is now a very poverty stricken neighbourhood where there was much conflict in the 1990s between police and drug gangs! Sound familiar? That would certainly not have been the case in the 1920s and 1930s, the drug culture being a very recent phenomenon, but one that has had devastating effects in so many Caribbean territories. So much for "progress". Ernest -----Original Message----- From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Augusta Elmwood Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 5:56 PM To: caribbean@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies If I may jump in here... why was it named New Orleans? Do you suppose at some time a group of N.O. natives re-settled there & gave it that name? Interesting! It's a good thing we have all you erudites on this list or Marge would probably be climbing up the wrong tree! Hooray for networking and the internet and all the good people of the Caribbean List ! Thanks, Augusta in... the OTHER New Orleans :-)

If I may jump in here... why was it named New Orleans? Do you suppose at some time a group of N.O. natives re-settled there & gave it that name? Interesting! It's a good thing we have all you erudites on this list or Marge would probably be climbing up the wrong tree ! Hooray for networking and the internet and all the good people of the Caribbean List ! Thanks, Augusta in... the OTHER New Orleans :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest M. Wiltshire" <murcot@synapse.net> To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > > Hello Marg: (is that Gibson???). No you are not being misled. There is > indeed a district called New Orleans, in the parish of St. Michael, and in > fact that is where several famous Barbadian cricketers were born, Sir > Clyde > Walcott(one of the 3 Ws)& his older brother Keith Walcott; also George > Griffith who played for Cambridge University. [Sir Clyde's grandmother > lived > next door to my great grandmother in Bank Hall]. Will try and pin down the > exact location for you. > > What is the name of your dau in law's father? I can see if I can find > anything on him in my records. > Regards > Ernest Wiltshire > > -----Original Message----- > From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Marg Smith > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:44 AM > Subject: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies > ... I am attempting to help my daughter-in-law trace her family history. > She > has had some discussions with her father, who has returned to Barbados, > but > are we being misled ?? > Is there an area known as "New Orleans" somewhere in the West Indies as > this > is what we are told is the birth place of her father?? > His year of birth was 1937, so perhaps area names have changed since > then?? > I have had no luck with an advanced Google search, and his year of birth > is > out of the year range for filmed LDS birth / baptism records, so we > thought > we would start with the "New Orleans" question!! > Any assistance greatly appreciated > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia > > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.13/2432 - Release Date: 10/13/09 06:35:00

Hi List Members I am attempting to help my daughter-in-law trace her family history. She has had some discussions with her father, who has returned to Barbados, but are we being misled ?? Is there an area known as "New Orleans" somewhere in the West Indies as this is what we are told is the birth place of her father?? His year of birth was 1937, so perhaps area names have changed since then?? I have had no luck with an advanced Google search, and his year of birth is out of the year range for filmed LDS birth / baptism records, so we thought we would start with the "New Orleans" question!! Any assistance greatly appreciated Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia

Hello Marg: (is that Gibson???). No you are not being misled. There is indeed a district called New Orleans, in the parish of St. Michael, and in fact that is where several famous Barbadian cricketers were born, Sir Clyde Walcott(one of the 3 Ws)& his older brother Keith Walcott; also George Griffith who played for Cambridge University. [Sir Clyde's grandmother lived next door to my great grandmother in Bank Hall]. Will try and pin down the exact location for you. What is the name of your dau in law's father? I can see if I can find anything on him in my records. Regards Ernest Wiltshire -----Original Message----- From: caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:caribbean-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marg Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:44 AM Subject: [Carib] New Orleans, West Indies ... I am attempting to help my daughter-in-law trace her family history. She has had some discussions with her father, who has returned to Barbados, but are we being misled ?? Is there an area known as "New Orleans" somewhere in the West Indies as this is what we are told is the birth place of her father?? His year of birth was 1937, so perhaps area names have changed since then?? I have had no luck with an advanced Google search, and his year of birth is out of the year range for filmed LDS birth / baptism records, so we thought we would start with the "New Orleans" question!! Any assistance greatly appreciated Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia

Almost certainly that refers to New Orleans in Louisiana (in the US). IN the 19th century it was the most important US city that was on the Caribbean sea with many direct links with the islands. Hope this helps. Rory On 13 Oct 2009, at 06:44, Marg Smith wrote: > Hi List Members > > I am attempting to help my daughter-in-law trace her family history. > She has had some discussions with her father, who has returned to > Barbados, but are we being misled ?? > > Is there an area known as "New Orleans" somewhere in the West Indies > as this is what we are told is the birth place of her father?? > > His year of birth was 1937, so perhaps area names have changed since > then?? I have had no luck with an advanced Google search, and his > year of birth is out of the year range for filmed LDS birth / > baptism records, so we thought we would start with the "New Orleans" > question!! > > Any assistance greatly appreciated > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia > *************************** > The Caribbean List now has a Resources Page at Historic Antigua and > Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARIBBEAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >