Hi Listers, I am new to this list but not new to Northern CA research. My question from the subject line is at the end. Thanks for your patience. I am looking for more information about the John Hillman Gardiner who is found in the following: 1910 Federal Census 3-TWP, PLACER, CA Series T624 Roll 91 Part 1 pg 72B GARDINER, John, 47, fruit farmer, he and parents b. NJ Hettie, wife, 43, b. PA children: Charles 13, b. PA; Leland, 9, b. NJ; Margaret, 6,. NJ 1895-1900 he was a printer in Philadelphia. In 1906 he inherited part of the estate of his uncle of the same name, a resident of Rio Vista, Solano Co. John (the nephew) is said to have died in 1912 and his widow and children are in the 1920 Census in Onondaga Co., NY. I was hoping for a write up in a Placer County History book of the appropriate time period. Was such a book published? Thanks for any help, Linda McDowell, San Juan Capistrano, CA

Please visit our new Placer County, California Genealogy and History http://www.californiagenealogy.org/placer We have just added the 1861 Placer Directory, this lists name, town or settlement and on some of the listings it provides an address. Thanks Judy When you have some extra time, visit my websites: Native American Genealogy - http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/ AccessGenealogy - http://www.accessgenealogy.com/ Native American Nations - http://www.nanations.com My home pages - http://www.itsjudy.com

Hello, fellow researchers, I've recently learned of a bill moving swiftly through the U. S. House of Representatives that would severely restrict our access to birth records, even those kept by counties and states, in the name of "security." We genealogists (and any other citizens) would have access only if we are the "registrant" (it's our own record), or are named in the document. If we don't meet those criteria, we would have to meet "minimum standards for issuance of a birth certificate to specific family members, their authorized representatives, and others who demonstrate that the certificate is needed for the protection of the requestor's personal or property rights." You might be interested in reading the actual language of this bill. It can be found at http://thomas.loc.gov./ Put in the number of the bill (HR10) on the home page, where it says "Bill Number." Once on the page where the bill starts, find the part about birth records using "Find on this page." It is my understanding that David Rencher, Chairman of the Record Access and Preservation Committee, a joint committee of the National Genealogical Society and Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS), has sent a letter to the bill's sponsor, Congressman Dennis Hastert, recommending an amendment to the bill as follows: "However, nothing in this Chapter 2 shall be construed to require a State to change its law with respect to public access to (A) non-certified copies of birth certificates, or to (B) birth certificates or birth records once a period of 100 years has elapsed from the date of creation of the certificate or record." A copy of the entire letter is available on the FGS site at www.fgs.org/rpa/formalactions.htm. Because this bill is moving toward passage so quickly, it is urged that the genealogical community take action immediately and let their representatives know that they are in support of David Rencher's proposed amendment and the FGS position in this important matter. To find your state representative's contact information, go to: www.house.gov/writerep/

Greetings: I have posted a new endangered cemetery report to the California Saving Graves website for the Planters House Cemetery in Shingle Springs, El Dorado County. You may view the report at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/Planters_House_Cemetery_Report.htm A construction application is being processed for the parcel adjacent to this little cemetery. The applicant's plan shows the applicant's property line taking in one of the family plots of the cemetery that was excepted in a 1929 deed and does NOT belong to the applicant. The 1929 deed also provided for an easement to and from the cemetery and the applicant's plan makes no provision for that access. I would like to ask you to email Supervisor Charlie Paine to ask him to help ensure this application is not approved without providing for an accurate depiction of the applicant's property in relation to the cemetery and to ensure that access remains available. There is a sample email text listed below for your use. I hope you will agree that we need to protect our historic cemeteries and access to them and will email Supervisor Paine accordingly. Thank you, Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves *********************************************** Sample Email and Letter Text to [email protected]: Subject: Planters House Cemetery, Shingle Springs (DR04-0010-Williams) Honorable Charlie Paine District 4 Supervisor El Dorado County 330 Fair Lane Placerville, CA 95667 Dear Supervisor Paine: I have learned that there have been problems in the past with construction near this historic cemetery in your county and that a new application for construction near the cemetery has been submitted. I believe that historic cemeteries should be respected and protected as historical and cultural resources of our state's past. Please protect the cemetery and access to it so that future Californians may pay their respects to the California pioneers buried there. Please help ensure that the present project application is processed in a manner that helps to ensure the preservation and protection of this early cemetery. Sincerely, [Your name, address and email address.]

Limited Edition-Gold Rush Book The Story of a Placer County Gold Miner Told by Isaac T. Coffin, edited by Phyllis G. Young, is going to press shortly. Orders for the single printing of this limited edition will be accepted until Sept. 15, 2004. This book includes 33 years of Isaac Coffin's personal journal and 160 photos of residences, buildings, and people of the area taken between 1860 and 1880. It is indexed with more than 1100 names, primarily from Nevada and Placer Counties. For a free brochure and order form, send your snail mail address to [email protected]

Hello, Can anyone tell me if there was a County Hospital in your county and, if so, if there was a cemetery with it? Is the cemetery still intact or has it been relocated? I am polling the counties to locate information about the present state of the old county hospital cemeteries in the state. Any help would be most appreciated. Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves

Greetings: The Fickert Ranch Cemetery is about to be sold out of the control of the Fickert family descendants. For more information, please go to this link: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/Fickert_Ranch_Cemetery_Kern.htm The Bear Valley Community Services District will vote on the sale of this cemetery on August 14, 2004. If you agree that the property the cemetery is on should be left undeveloped to preserve the cemetery and promote the history of this area, please contact the district at the addresses given on the website. You may email them at: [email protected] If you would like to cut and paste the following, please feel free to do so. I would appreciate if you would copy me at [email protected] and [email protected] . Robert T. Sheppard, Jr., President Bear Valley CSD 28999 South Lower Valley Rd. Tehachapi, CA 92561 (via Email) Re: Fickert Family Cemetery, Lot #3431-105 Dear Honorable Board: I/WE oppose the sale of the lot on which the Fickert Family Cemetery is located and encourage you to withhold the sale of this lot forever so that you may help preserve the cemetery and promote the history of your community. The Fickert family were THE pioneers who settled the place you all now call home. Please show this small consideration for their memory and their descendant family members. Please preserve this last remnant of the Fickert family and the ranch they built in your county's earliest history. Respectfully, Your name Your mailing address Your city, state and zip Your phone number (optional) Your email address (optional) Thank you in advance for your support in helping this family protect it's historic cemetery. Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves

Greetings: Recent news has been noted regarding the El Monte Cemetery, also known as the Savannah Pioneer Cemetery and Savannah Memorial Park, in the City of Rosemead, Los Angeles County. The El Monte Cemetery Association is apparently experiencing financial difficulty and is contemplating selling the cemetery to developers. If this were to occur, it has been stated that the 3,000 graves in the cemetery will have to be disinterred and relocated elsewhere. If you have family ancestors or loved ones who were interred in this cemetery, you are encouraged to contact the El Monte Cemetery Association. I have posted a page covering what I've learned about the present situation and other information I have found about the cemetery at the following link: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/El_Monte_Cemetery_Rpt.htm If you have any questions about the information on the webpage, please contact me off list. Thank you, Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves

Hello, In follow up to the below posting, I have sent the following letter to the editors of the Pasadena Star News and the San Gabriel Valley Tribune newspapers. I have also notified the State Cemetery and Funeral Bureau in Sacramento. Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves ************************************* Begin letter text: Re: Savannah Memorial Park Editor: The El Monte Cemetery Association has quite a dilemma on its hands if it cannot afford to continue to hold, operate or maintain the Savannah Memorial Park in Rosemead. This cemetery is also known as the El Monte Cemetery or at least that is the name the State recorded when it conducted surveys of California cemeteries between 1950 and 1985. It is by all means one of California's historic cemeteries and represents the early exploration and settlement in California, probably before and after the Mexican War. The State's register for this cemetery cites that it was established in 1852, just two years after California attained statehood. I do not know when the El Monte Cemetery Association acquired the cemetery, but they were not incorporated until 1920. California's statutes governing cemeteries provided for the incorporation of Rural Cemetery Associations in 1859 (Repealed 1931). It does appear that the cemetery was in use by the public for some 60+ years before the El Monte Cemetery Association became a legal California cemetery corporation and was duly authorized to own, operate and maintain a cemetery in the state. From these few facts and presumptions, it would be our opinion that the title to the El Monte Cemetery, as it was used by the public previous to the formation of the El Monte Cemetery Association, vested in the PUBLIC through operation of California law (former Political Code section 3105, now substantially embodied as Health and Safety Code section 8126). The public acquired legal title to the cemetery as a result of its continuous and uninterrupted use of the cemetery for five or more years after January 1, 1873. The public's title was and is superior to that of the El Monte Cemetery Association as the law prohibits adverse possession of lands in public title. Even if the above were not accepted as factual, cemetery associations formed under the former Rural Cemetery Association Act are subject to regulation by the Dept. of Consumer Affairs Cemetery and Funeral Bureau. This means that the El Monte Cemetery Association must abide by the laws and regulations of the Health and Safety Code pertaining to Private Cemeteries. The El Monte Cemetery Association cannot by law sell this cemetery to any entity that has not been issued a Certificate of Authority by the Cemetery and Funeral Bureau to operate the cemetery. It cannot sell the land as other than cemetery land unless it removes all human remains from its acreage and petitions the Superior Court of California to remove the land's dedication to cemetery purposes. The situation faced by the El Monte Cemetery Association is not unique in California. Many small cemetery associations have functioned for many years without establishing endowed care funds to provide for the cemeteries when they can no longer generate revenues. As is being contemplated by this Association, those cemeteries are basically abandoned, along with all the many original citizens of our state. California on the whole has a dismal record in its treatment of its cemeteries, both historic and modern. Remove a cemetery and you remove the evidence of all those people and the history their lives represented to the very community the cemetery represents. The history of the community is, in essence, often entirely removed. It is a shame that the Asian peoples who have moved into this community cannot be convinced to respect the cemeteries that existed there before they arrived. Their discomfort with the location of the cemeteries is NOT a criteria reviewed by the Superior Court of California when it approves applications to remove and relocate cemeteries. We believe the dead should be left to rest in peace. We believe the cemeteries of our state's early and historic communities should be left unmolested as their original founders intended. We would be willing to assist any interested persons who would like to help preserve this cemetery so that it may remain where it was established in 1852. Sincerely, Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves Email: [email protected] California Website: www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/ Worldwide Website: www.savinggraves.org End letter text. (See below for original list posting.) ******************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:31 AM Subject: [CALosAngeles] Savannah Memorial Park > > Whittier Daily News > > Grant cemetery landmark status > Thursday, July 29, 2004 - THE Savannah Memorial Park in Rosemead has been > the final resting place of San Gabriel Valley residents for more than 150 > years. And before that, it was an Indian burial ground. > The cemetery on Valley Boulevard was the site where pioneers on the Santa Fe > Trail would bury those who had died on the journey from points east to what's > now Rosemead and El Monte. It has been the scene of a few tragic suicides > and a fatal shootout between police and robbers. It is also the site where > Chinese characters adorn the headstones of two Japanese immigrants, the > first-known use of the writing in a public place outside of Chinatown. > Resting beneath its grassy fields are the founding families of the region, > Civil War veterans and even a veteran of the War of 1812. And the graves are > not limited to the park others are known to be underneath Valley Boulevard and > the the surrounding businesses. > Unfortunately, all that history may be forced to make way for development, as > staff writer Jason Kosareff reported Sunday. > The El Monte Cemetery Association, which owns the graveyard, is saying that > without help, the group will soon be forced to sell the land to developers > salivating over the property. > Of course, the graves would be moved and the relatives notified. But moving > such an old cemetery would mean losing a piece of the Valley's heritage in a > community that frankly, has not done well in preserving historic resources. > Ideally, the association would like to make the cemetery a historic landmark > with the state. However, the group fears it does not have the resources to > pull it off. > That's a call for help that should be heeded. Where are those groups that say > Rosemead needs to maintain its old-town atmosphere? With the ferocity that > some groups are showing to oppose a Wal-Mart, ardent Rosemead residents should > fight for this forgotten treasure. > Perhaps Wal-Mart itself can kick in some bucks? With all its talk about > giving back to the community, here's a chance for the retail behemoth to puts its > money where its mouth is. > As for the Asian businesses who see the Savannah Memorial Park a hindrance to > their patrons, they need to respect the history that made their businesses > possible. > > >

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The NGS Conference in Sacramento is now just days away. An exciting new feature at this year's conference is the demonstration area in the exhibit hall. Admission to the exhibit hall is free and so are these demonstrations. To help you plan your conference experience, the demonstration schedule is given below. Join us for "A Golden Prospect" National Genealogical Society Conference in the States Sacramento Convention Center 19-22 May 2004 www.ngsgenealogy.org WEDNESDAY, MAY 19 10:00 a.m. Sacramento Archives and Museum Collection Center Presentation on doing research in the archives - using a case study to show many types of records held there. Visit the Sacramento Archives and Museum Collection Center's booth #437. 11:00 a.m. Family Time Capsules Presentation about the company's product, videotaped personal interviews combined with footage of family photographs to produce a true visual Family History Documentary on DVD or video stream. Visit the Family Time Capsules booth #706. 12:00 Noon Family Tree DNA Demonstration of the setting up of a DNA surname project and using the tools for a DNA surname project. Visit the Family Tree DNA booth #318. 1:00 p.m. Ancestry A presentation on Ancestry's products and services. 2:00 p.m. Cemetery Research and Tombstone Rubbings Presentation by Pamela Bell Dallas, vice president of the Genealogical and Historical Council of Sacramento Valley, who will use a molded plaster tombstone and go through all the steps. 3:00 p.m. Luzena Stanley Wilson: Music and Memories Luzena and her family caught gold fever in 1849 and left Missouri in a covered wagon. They survived the arduous overland trek only to face floods in Sacramento, fire in Nevada City, and squatter troubles in Vacaville. Luzena, as portrayed by Fern Henry, will reminisce on her pioneer life and perform authentic songs of early California. Ms. Henry is the author of My Checkered Life, a meticulously researched new book about Luzena; visit booth #231 to meet the author. 4:00 p.m. GenSmarts Demonstration of GenSmarts software that uses artificial intelligence to analyze your existing genealogy file and produce research recommendations. It helps you generate and track to do lists, print worksheets to record your research results, and plan trips to libraries, court houses, etc. For online research, GenSmarts produces links that already have your ancestors name and specifics embedded - making it much easier to perform online record lookups. Visit GenSmarts booth #316. THURSDAY 20th MAY 10:00 a.m. The Orton Opus Blane Lamb of the State Archives office, and Bill Davies of California State Archives will demonstrate the Orton Opus, a list of nearly 20,000 California Civil War volunteers. Military terminology will be explained. Mr. Lamb will cover the resources of the California State Archives available that supplement and augment this information. Visit the California State Archives and Golden State Museum at 1020 O Street. 11:00 a.m. Those Wild and Lusty Gold Camps Author Alton Pryor of Stagecoach Publishing will present a talk and answer questions on how life was in the Gold Camps of the Gold Rush days. Visit Stagecoach Publishing's booth #231 and meet the author. 12:30 p.m. Civil War Era Women's Clothing Katrina Worley will demonstrate clothing women wore in the 1860s period and why, and how it worked. Ms. Worley regularly participates in the civilian camp at Civil War re-enactments and is an avid collector of antique sewing machines. 1:30 p.m. Gold Panning Nevada County's Bert Hall will demonstrate how to pan for those gold nuggets. Mr. Hall regular demonstrates gold panning in summer months at the historic Bridgeport Covered Bridge State Park in Nevada County, the longest single span wood arch bridge in the U.S., Built in 1862. 4:00 p.m. RootsMagic Demonstration of the company's genealogy program. Visit the RootsMagic booth #401. FRIDAY 21st MAY 9:00 a.m. DeadFred.com Presentation about DeadFred and what they offer. DeadFred.com aims to reunite you with your ancestors for FREE. Trace your roots with their searchable database containing thousands of identified and mystery photos for genealogy enthusiasts looking for long-lost relatives. Anyone who finds a photo of a direct descendant that is owned by the Archive will receive the photo for free. Visit the Dead Fred's Genealogy Photo Archive booth #711. 10:00 a.m. Straightening Out the Erroneous History of the Donner Party Children Author Naida West of Bridgehouse Publishing will discuss persistent errors in books about the Donner disaster which are numerous, even regarding basics such as the correct names of the survivors. Survivor Elitha's identity had all but disappeared because early record-keepers thought Elitha and Eliza (they rhyme)? must be the same girl. Actually Eliza was a step-sister 10 years younger, with a life story less riddled with hardship and amazing facts. Elitha's husband was accidentally buried alive. Sacramento is our host city, and Elitha is a Sacramento Donner Party survivor. Visit Bridgehouse Publishing's booth #231 and meet the author. 11:00 a.m. Googling for Grandma: Tips and Tricks for Making Google Work for You A presentation by cyndislist.com's own Cyndi Howells, NGS Director-at-Large. Everyone loves Google, the most popular search engine online. Now learn all the secrets and tricks, hidden within this tool and find out how to optimize them for genealogical research. 12:00 Noon Sacramento Old City Cemetery A presentation by "old-time undertaker" Lou Demas, including pictures of the history Sacramento Old City Cemetery. 1:00 p.m. My Ancestors A presentation on the company's products and research services. 3:00 p.m. Heritage Quest/Proquest Will present HeritageQuest Online, and especially the new PERSI Index. 4:00 p.m. National Archives and Records Administration, Pacific Region Presentation of some of the exciting original regional records holdings of interest to genealogists, such as original shipping articles and crew lists for the Port of San Francisco, General Land Office Township Survey Plats, Federal Court naturalization records, and case files on (ancestral) businesses, Asian immigration case files, etc. SATURDAY 22nd MAY 10:00 a.m. Scottish Cultural Heritage Presentations Come listen to the bagpipe and enjoy two different styles of Scottish dance, a presentation coordinated by Dr. Donald Cavanaugh MacCrae, noted etymologist whose expertise includes heraldry, the origins of surnames, and the history of Scottish Clans and Tartans. 11:00 a.m. The NGS Britain and Ireland Forum John Konvalinka, CGRS, and Sheila Benedict, CGRS, will present on behalf of the National Genealogical Society's Britain and Ireland Forum, a new special interest group forum where custom-tailored information is provided, centered on genealogical interests and family history offerings for England, Wales, Ireland, and Scotland. 12:00 Noon Quilting Demonstration Carol Gebel will show some of her antique vintage quilts and tops. She will demonstrate hand quilting using a large quilting hoop on a stand. 1:00 p.m. Finding Juanita Bojorques - The Search for One Grandmother that Led to Seven Generations of Californio Ancestors Sheila Ruiz Harrell of Los Californianos will present a case study of research in California's Hispanic heritage, a very interesting description.

Greetings: The UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento was established at the old Sacramento County Hospital property in the 1970s. When the County sold the University the property no provision was made for the County Hospital Cemetery. During construction for an expansion project, contractors found human remains in the project zone. The body count has increased from 2 sets of remains to 28 sets of remains WITHIN THE PROJECT ZONE. The County Hospital Cemetery has been reported to have begun as 1 acre in 1877 and was expanded to 2 acres at a later date. Thirty graves have been reported to have been moved in the past, though neither the County nor UC Davis has the records of that relocation. UC Davis Medical Center has petitioned the Superior Court of Sacramento County to allow them to exhume and relocate the 28 bodies found during their subsequent archaeological review. The medical center claims to be the "cemetery authority" even though California cemetery law required the County of Sacramento to relocate the graves from the cemetery before the County had authority to sell the land. A hearing will be held on April 13 in Sacramento Superior Court. This is a true instance of Murphy's Law for this poor cemetery. What could go wrong, did go wrong. Now UC Davis is forced to bear the cost of the relocation which the County should have done before transferring the land. Now UC Davis only wants to address the 28 bodies in the project zone while ignoring the rest of the location of the cemetery and the untold remains that rest there. (Mostly under a parking lot and temporary modular buildings.) If you had ancestors that were buried in the Sacramento County Hospital Cemetery, I encourage you to contact me direct at [email protected] to learn more. This entire situation could have been avoided had the County of Sacramento complied with the law. Without doing so, they had no statutory authority to sell the land from the county's ownership. What happens when we violate the law? What happens when a County violates the law? Nothing unless someone sues them. If you have someone buried in the Sacramento County Hospital Cemetery located at X St. and 45th St., please contact. Thank you, Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves

Hi, I think is it worth the risk to send this to all of my mailing lists... It says, you can live in any state and still participate... Dixie Lea in K.C... ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: [TNWASHIN-L] WVA HB 4330 Last Saturday, March 13, in the WV Legislature,House Bill 4330 passed. It is now awaiting signature from Governor Wise to make it law. If you are a family genealogist/historian whose research involves West Virginia, then this bill affects your work whether you live in West Virginia or another state. If Governor Wise signs HB 4330, all birth records will be closed to public access for 100 years and all death records closed for 50 years. We are all concerned about privacy issues but HB 4330 in its current format is too restrictive. Please email Governor Wise and address your concerns. Don't delay. The governor's email address is [email protected] If you would like to examine HB 4330 then cut and paste the URL below. Remember to sign your email with your full name and address. http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legishp.html

Greetings: The Press Release at the end of this message was sent out this morning to media representatives in the Sacramento area. As president of the El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission, I have attempted to keep a residential subdivision from impacting a small cemetery in Cameron Park. Efforts to this point have not been as fruitful as we would have hoped. Much as I have asked you to do in relation to other historic cemeteries with immediate problems, it would be helpful for others to let the County of El Dorado know they are watching this situation. Please contact the District 1 Supervisor Rusty Dupray at [email protected] or call him at (530) 621-5650. Please cut and paste the following message and send it to Supervisor upray - Honorable Rusty Dupray, District 1 Supervisor County of El Dorado 630 Fair Lane Placerville, CA 95667 Re: Skinner Burying Ground, Cameron Park Dear Supervisor Dupray: I learned that a residential subdivision is threatening to engulf the historic Skinner family cemetery near the intersection of Green Valley Road and Cameron Park Drive. Too many of California's historic cemeteries are being impacted by development projects these days with no regard at all to the pioneers buried within them. I hope you will help to ensure that this cemetery is not adversely impacted by the effects of the Cameron Glen Estates project. Please help to protect and preserve it in a way that it will remain visible from Green Valley Road as it has for over 136 years. Sincerely, [Your name, address, email address and phone number.] [End of message text.] Thanks so much for lending a hand! Sue Silver State Coordinator, CALIFORNIA SAVING GRAVES President, El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission PRESS RELEASE FOLLOWS: No Rest for the Dead in El Dorado County James Skinner could never have imagined that 136 years after burying his son John, a struggle would become necessary to protect the resting place of his family. He could never have known that in the county he once helped settle there is no rest for the dead. Now a group of El Dorado County residents is endeavoring to protect and preserve this small historic cemetery in Cameron Park. In the past this area was known as Green Valley. Just north of the cemetery is Green Valley Road that was first known as the Sacramento and Coloma Road in the 1850s. It was the earliest route to and from the newly discovered California gold fields. Pioneer James Skinner owned his ranch and winery in Green Valley from 1856 until his death in 1885, when he was buried beside his son John in the little cemetery on the hill overlooking his home. The boy had tragically died in a hunting accident in 1868. Skinner's wife Jessie was laid to rest in the ranch burial ground in 1898, and Skinner's lifelong friend David Reid, who had emigrated with the family from Scotland in 1840, was interred there on his death in 1899. The bachelor sons of the family, Alexander and William were also buried here. James Skinner's children sold the ranch in 1898. Together with the cemetery, they excepted and reserved to themselves and their heirs, an easement running 200 feet to the Green Valley Road. They also reserved the right to use the easement "at all times" for the purposes of caring for the cemetery and "interring other bodies therein." The James Skinner family has not rested in peace for many years now. Since the 1970s,, development in the vicinity of the old ranch and cemetery has been extensive. Every residential or commercial project approved for construction near or adjacent to the cemetery has caused vandalism and desecration to occur. In the late 1980s, a shopping center was constructed on one of its boundaries, cutting the hill to a depth of 12 to 15 feet on the east side of the cemetery. The gravestones have been continuously vandalized or stolen ever since. Now only the stones for James and Jessie Skinner and David Reid survive. A white picket fence that was required of the shopping center developer by the County has been torn apart and put together at least twice since the mid-1990s. Now Cameron Glen Estates, a residential subdivision on the southern, western and northern boundaries of the cemetery, threatens to completely engulf it. When the project first began in 1990, the County of El Dorado told the developer that the board of supervisors was the legal authority for the cemetery. This contention was made even though Elva Joerger Ryan, James Skinner's great-granddaughter, was paying property taxes on it, as she had since 1967. Project plans for Cameron Glen Estates will substitute an arbitrary access route to the cemetery created by a 1967-subdivision map. Although the 1967 map did not identify the Skinner deed which established the family' s rights, neither did the 1990 Cameron Glen subdivision map. Some believe the developer ignored the controlling deed in order to deliberately and unlawfully extinguish the true easement. If plans for Phase 5 of this project are approved, two houses will be constructed on the north side of the cemetery and will interfere with the family's easement described in 1898. Elva Ryan's family was never notified of this project or the shopping center development because the County had maintained it was authority over it. The family did not learn of the problems that the cemetery was suffering until late-2000 when members of the El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission (EDCPCC) contacted them. The group has since worked with James Skinner's great great granddaughter, Jeanne Ryan Jackson of San Francisco, who continues paying the property taxes on the family burial ground. Mrs. Jackson has asked the EDCPCC to work on behalf of the Skinner family cemetery. She hopes the group will help ensure it will be protected and preserved as the children of James Skinner intended it would be. The Commission has advised county project planner Rogers Evans of the easement dispute. Evans has been asked to withhold all further approvals affecting the cemetery pending a land survey to locate the original easement. Until this issue is resolved, the James Skinner family will not rest in peace. [END TEXT]

Greetings, While working on construction for their new Cancer Center this past Tuesday, UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento unearthed two sets of human remains from the old Sacramento County Hospital Cemetery. Despite the fact that both the county board of supervisors and the medical center knew the cemetery was there, the county transferred the land to the center in 1973. Davis intends to call these "archaeological remains" instead of bodies from the old cemetery. In this way they may be able to circumvent California law that requires certain steps be taken to relocate remains such as these. The county should have relocated the cemetery to another cemetery before handing the property over to UC Davis. Instead, now thirty years later, UC Davis claims to be surprised to have "solved" the mystery of the missing hospital cemetery! Please help me to persuade the county and the medical center to follow California law so that these past citizens of California will get a decent reburial elsewhere. There are about 57 other old county hospital cemeteries elsewhere in California that have the potential to suffer this same fate. Please cut and paste the following message and send to Sacramento County District 2 Supervisor Illa Collin at [email protected] . You can also fax it to her at (916) 874-7593. Or you can call her office at (916) 874-5481. ********************************************* Honorable Illa Collin, District 2 Supervisor County of Sacramento 700 H Street, Suite 2450 Sacramento, CA 95814 Dear Supervisor Collin: I have learned about the "discovery" of the old County Hospital Cemetery during the construction of the new wing of the UC Davis Cancer Center on Stockton Blvd. I understand the County should have relocated the entire cemetery before transferring this land to UC Davis, but didn't. Please help ensure that the remains that the county buried in its hospital cemetery are properly respected. Please work with UC Davis to relocate all the bodies as required by California Health and Safety Code section 8000 et seq. Sincerely, [Your Name, Address, phone number and Email address.] *********************************************** Thank you for your assistance on this very important matter. Sue Silver, State Coordinator California Saving Graves www.usgennet.org/usa/ca/state/

A major genealogical event is coming to Sacramento in May!!! The National Genealogical Society (NGS) Conference in the States -- 19-22 May 2004. Full-color, 20-page registration brochures for the NGS Conference are in the mail and will be available at research libraries, family history centers and genealogical society meetings soon. This year's conference has some exciting offerings for people interested in California history and genealogy. One of the featured speakers is J.S. Holliday. Associated with UC Berkeley's Bancroft Library, the California Historical Society and the Oakland Museum of California, Mr. Holliday is a noted California Gold Rush historian and author of *The World Rushed In: The California Gold Rush Experience* and *Rush for Riches: Gold Fever and the Making of California*. The title of his conference presentation is "Far from Home and Family: The Origins of California's Risk-taking Culture." It's about the wild and adventuresome lifestyle of the men who came to the Gold Rush, far from the moral influence of their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters. Also of special interest to California researchers are the following classes: "California Gold Rush" "Research Facilities in the Golden State" both presented by Chuck Knuthson. Chuck is a native of northern California with deep roots in the gold country. He is webmaster of the Sierra County GenWeb site. "Did Your Ancestors' Siblings Take YOUR Family Papers to California?" by Sheila Benedict, CGRS. Sheila is a professional researcher from southern California specializing in California records. "Using California Records to Find Southern U.S. Ancestors" by J. Mark Low, CG. President of the Association of Professional Genealogists, Mark brings to his lecture the perspective of the importance of researching California records even if you don't live in California. Other classes pertinent to tracing the ancestry of Californians are on westward migration, railroad records and land records, especially federal land records. This is only the third time in more than 20 years that the NGS Conference has been held in California, and it won't be back any time soon. If you live in California, this is a once-in-a lifetime opportunity to experience a national conference without expensive travel costs. If you live in another state, but have a California roots, this is the perfect excuse to visit the home of your ancestors. Please join for "A Golden Prospect" National Genealogical Society Conference in the States Sacramento Convention Center 19-22 May 2004 Watch for brochures or visit www.ngsgenealogy.org and click on the SACRAMENTO logo. Barbara Leak Local Publicity Chair, NGS Conference 2004 www.ngsgenealogy.org President, Genealogical & Historical Council of Sacramento Valley www.sacvalleygenes.org

> There is a CD copy of the 1861 Placer county directory > and local history on Ebay if it might help someone in > their research. Interesting. The current bid is over $20. You can purchase a reprint of the book (a real book, not a CD) from the Placer County Historical Society for $14.50. http://www.placercountyhistoricalsociety.org/ Barbara Leak ****************************************************************** Join us for "A Golden Prospect" National Genealogical Society Conference in the States Sacramento, California 19-22 May 2004 www.ngsgenealogy.org www.sacvalleygenes.org ******************************************************************

There is a CD copy of the 1861 Placer county directory and local history on Ebay if it might help someone in their research. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2980&item=2985108924 Dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

> #1 [CAPlacer] WAGLEY ["Phyllis > Maulding Campbell" <belan] > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:20:02 -0600 > From: "Phyllis Maulding Campbell" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAPlacer] WAGLEY > > I am looking for descendants of WILLIAM THOMAS > WAGLEY who was born in Arkansas 12-26-1879 died > 10-19-1951 in Contra Costa County, California and > his wife Arizona Williams Wagley born 4-23-1887 died > 4-19-1952 Contra Costa County. > > Their children were: > > Lonnie Wagley 1907-1998 died in Sonoma County, > California. Wife may have been Nancie Mildred > Mansfield. > > Ervin Franklin Wagley b.1-9-1909 Arkansas d.5-9-1978 > in Contra Costa County. > > Jewell G. Wagley b.11-26-1913 Arkansas d.1-22-1997 > in Citrus Heights, Sacramento County. These dates > came from the SSDI and could be incorrect. I believe > she married an Edwards. > > Jimmie J. Wagley b.9-9-1918 Arkansas d.6-24-1988 in > Sacramento, Sacramento County. These dates came from > the SSDI and could be incorrect. I believe she > married a McPherson. > > William T. (Buddy) Wagley b.2-25-1922 Arkansas > d.9-3-1977 Contra Costa County > > I would like to have obituaries if possible. I have > lots of WAGLEY information to share. Any help with > this is greatly appreciated. > > Phyllis Campbell > Hi Suggest you try various combos of surnames using California Death Index (CADI) as an alternate source to SSDI. URL is: <http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi> There appear to be "hits" for the father and all of the children, with the possible exception of Buddy. Vern D __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

Hello, I am wondering if anyone on this list is researching the Kuykendall family or knows of anyone who is? My husbands family knew of a Madge Kuykendall, Claire and her husband Charles Foland who were in the area around 1956-8. Claire was Madges mother, and was sister to my husbands grandmother. I am interested especially in Claire's ancestors. Or any information that would relate to the family. Thank you, Leemae from Mi.Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com