This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.canney/220.127.116.11.18.104.22.168/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Some sources say that Thomas Canney was from Okehampton in Devon, because there is a Canne family there. But there is no positive record of Thomas's roots. So no one knows where he came from. Sorry.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.canney/22.214.171.124.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any info on the Canney family prior to Thomas 1610-1681? I come from the line who were mostly mariners Deal/Dover in Kent UK but do not know much about the history. Anything would be gratefully received- thanks
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.canney/41.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I saw your message about the above about whom I have no information. However, I was interested by your father's name as Ladd appears as a middle name in my line of Canneys mostly mariners in the Deal area of Kent and the earliest born 1751.
Dear List Members, We DNA project admins have been give a few "certificates" to apply to new project members. It is against RootsWeb policy to go into detail about this since we use a commercial testing company - but don't forget - we volunteer admins don't get any kickbacks! If you want to know more about this, please read this link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/DNA/Certificates.htm Best regards and happy holidays to all, Georgia Kinney Bopp Jody McKenney Thomson Administrators Kinney, McKinney & Variations Surname Y-DNA Project
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.canney/126.96.36.199.188.8.131.52.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would be interested to see the records to which you refer-- census records & WWII records
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.canney/184.108.40.206.220.127.116.11.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: there are 3 George Canneys in my family--brother, father,and grandfather. The one to whom you refer, who arrived at the age of 24 was my father. He had a sister Ella,who was included in a 1930 census tract wih his father George and two other sisters, Maria & Helen. Concordia Hansen was my grandmother,whom I never met --She apparently died in Scotland before my grandfather came here alone. My father & aunts came later. I was contacted by relatives in Australia as aresult of this ancestry posting You can contact me directly at EZYVET@aol.com Hope to hear from you John Canney Brooklyn, NY
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Canney, Hanson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.canney/18.104.22.168.22.214.171.124/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John, Could your George Canney have been the son of George Canney and Concordia Hanson of Greenock who came to Brooklyn? A son named George, age 24, shows in the 1930 census. Though she isn't visible in the 1930 census, other information I have shows a daughter named Ella, who could be the daughter Ellen found in the passenger list. I'm not related to this family, but I have a friend who is. If this George is your father, I have the passenger list for both of his parents, the 1930 census, and the World War II registration card for his father. -- Mary D. Taffet Syracuse, NY
I'd like to clarify something related to my earlier post of the same subject. Based on the information available (to me) at this time, John Keny d. 1693 Milton, MA, does not appear to be a direct descendant of Henry of Salem, MA. He may have been relatively close to the age of Henry's son John, but the two Johns have different wives and children and are not identical. Hence, the recent Y-DNA match (assuming all genealogies presented are correct) is an interesting breakthrough for at least two MA "Kinney" lines. Heretofore, there was no evidence showing any relationship between these two lines. We have upgraded our recent participant's test to 67 markers - don't know if that will add anything more to the mix - but we'll see. Regards, Georgia Kinney Bopp
The following citation is the last known (to me) information about John Keny, d. Milton, MA, 1693: Keeney, Keny Family of Milton, Mass., and Nova Scotia, Canada NEGHR 108:113 (1954) p. 113 --- Compiled by Mrs. Florance L. K. Robertson (Florance Keeney Robertson) Therein, Robertson "presumes" that Arthur Keayne was the father of this John. She also "presumes" that Arthur was a relative of Christopher Keayne of Cambridge, MA and of Capt. Robert Keayne of Boston, covered in her 1942 book (not to be confused with her 1947 book about Henry). When she compiled the data, she had no further information regarding the ancestry of these families. This week a Y-DNA Kinney participant reporting a genealogy to John Keny, d. Milton, MA, 1693, matched the Y-DNA signature we have established for Henry Kinne. Of course, there's always the possibility of an error in the reported genealogy, but if it is correct (and it appears to be), then this is exciting news. I think Robertson would be thrilled! The match can not prove Henry was a direct ancestor of John - it can only tell us that direct line male descendants of Henry and John share an unknown Kinney male ancestor (probably Henry but could be an unknown brother or uncle, etc., of Henry). One of John Keny's Nova Scotia "Kinney" descendants (whose mother tracks to a Mayflower line) came to Hawaii in the mid 1800's and married a Native Hawaiian woman. They were the progenitors of a well known Hawaii Kinney line. When I moved to Hawaii (from California) many years ago and became interested in genealogy and then in Y-DNA, it was my hope to work with Hawaii Kinney descendants to establish a signature for the Hawaii Kinney family. So,it is quite a thrill to have a Hawaii Kinney line descendant test and match Henry's signature. Georgia Kinney Bopp Admin. of the Kinney & Variations Surname Y-DNA Project FYI - These are the full titles of the books mentioned above *Robertson, Florance Loveless Kenney. THE KEAYNE-KEEN(E)-KEENEY-KINNE(Y)-KENNEY AND ALLIED FAMILIES. (1942) ** Robertson, Florance Keeney. THE GENEALOGY OF HENRY AND ANN KINNE, PIONEERS OF SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS. (1947) .
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/59 Message Board Post: I am seeking information on Rhuhama "Hamie" Canney. She was born in 1873 in Dover, NH I believe, possibly in Maine. She married Fred K Stevens around 1893. They had 3 children, Harold, Karl and Florence.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/58 Message Board Post: Margaret Canney married Edward McDaid dob 1808 Baskhill Culdaff Co Donegal. Margaret's parents were: Neil Canney and Mary Logue. Edward McDaids parents I'm not sure of. Anyone out there connect with the above? Barbara Other names in this family: Doherty, Callaghan, McDaid, McDevitt, Bradley, Harkin, .
Those of you who are Henry descendants - please comment on the below. I'm not really an MA history buff - but I'm learning. Until recently, my Kinney paper trail was stuck at George O. Kinney, born ca. 1820 in NY, who was in California by 1852. The only evidence I had that my Kinney father linked to Henry of MA was Dad's Y-DNA. Not long ago, the excellent Jeff Green (active on the Kinney RootsWeb list), found my likely connection:(Henry>Thomas>Thomas>James>Elijah>Elijah>George O. . . . .> And, as most of you know, I recently started a Henry web project beginning with his Timeline at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/ My father is 86, has no computer, and his interest in history is primarily with his California pioneer roots (about which he knows a great deal!). However, now that his Henry connection is known, I'm making a short Henry timeline for him (no links, etc.) and sending him copies of a few of the items from the "big" Timeline links. However, I realize I need a historical overview to tie things together and have drafted the below. This will also work for all my young nieces and nephews who frequently ask me about their earlier American immigrant ancestor for a grade school assignment (usually the night before it is due!). Comments, corrections, etc. welcome! Georgia Kinney Bopp ====== In the 1600s, Protestants (non-Catholics) were persecuted in England and many came to America (New England) seeking religious freedom settling in what is now known as Massachusetts. The first arrivals (the "Pilgrims") settled in 1620 at Plymouth Rock. "Puritans" - who had a strict moral code and placed a high value on hard work - soon arrived and other locales were settled, including a group in Salem in 1628. Henry was born about 1624, probably in England. Although there are tales that his ancestor was a Sir Thomas in England, the names of his parents and how he arrived in Massachusetts are not known. Records do show that Henry was in MA by 1639 when he was apprenticed in Roxbury (near Salem) at about age 15. Henry's last name appears in records as Keany - Keeny - Keine - Kene - Keney - Kenne - Kening - Kennee - Kenney - Kenninge - Kenny - Kennye - Keny - Keyney - Kine - Kiney. His descendants use some of the above spellings as well as Kinne - Kinnee - Kinnie - Kinney, and so on. Henry lived most of his life in Salem Village (now known as Danvers), a village established the late 1630's by a group of farmers who moved five miles from Salem town. Henry was in trouble from time to time and involved in a few lawsuits (he usually lost!), but on the whole, based on 40 years of Salem Village records, he was in good standing in the community. He owned land and apparently was a farmer. Unfortunately, he was involved in the dreadful 1691/2 Salem, MA, witch trials, and the two innocents he accused were hanged. Henry and his wife Ann (Putnam? Howard?) had eight children - three sons and five daughters. He died about 1710. There were thousands of Native Americans living in Massachusetts when the English arrived and thus began a very troubled history. Henry signed a 1669 Petition to Capt. Corwin detailing the concerns of the farmers keeping watch to protect their families. Henry and his son Thomas participated in King Philip's War in 1675/6 ("King Philip" refers to a Native American leader of the Wampanoag). The "Indians" were a problem to the English but, needless, to say, the Native Americans, had an entirely different point of view. The causes of King Philip's War include the "Colonists' hunger for land, as well as the heavy-handed treatment of the Wampanoag and other Native People by government officials" and it is described as "one of the most disastrous wars in America's history." One in ten soldiers on both sides were injured or killed, it took years for the colonies to recover and was devastating to the traditional way of life of Native Americans in New England (some of whom were sol! d into slavery abroad, and many women and children were forced to become servants). - - - - - Note to list - two links with "short" versions about the war are here . . . . . http://www.answers.com/topic/king-philip-s-war http://www.pilgrimhall.org/philipwar.htm end =======
The Timeline of Henry Keny/etc. of MA is still a work in progress but is no longer in the DRAFT stage. I've added all the known items. It's amazing how many of the items are now online and all known links are on the Timeline. The last batch of items (from Mark Vernon) includes some Salem Town Records entries that are not yet online. For example, 1680 Henry received [credit? payment?] for killing a woolfe. Some of the later entries might apply to Henry Jr. Sometimes that is indicated with ? and other times not. Additional tweaking is needed and will be done when time permits. Feel free to submit additions, corrections, etc. - along with the source of the information. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/Timeline.htm There are other works in progress regarding Henry - see the "contents" page. They will be addressed when time permits. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/ Georgia Kinney Bopp
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/126.96.36.199 Message Board Post: Hi James Do you know if any Canneys still live at 19 Penshurst Rd Ramsgate? Thanks
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/57.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply James Looks like this could be the one. Not much is known about this branch of the family as it was kept quiet for some reason. Alfred is my great grandfather but as to when he came to Australia is still uncertain. I've gleaned from my father as much as he knows but it is somewhat limited. He was a champagne salesman here in Victoria. I have searched the 1881 English census and found an Alfred Canney living in London who is listed as a wine merchant clerk so this fits. My fathers aunt (Alfred's daughter) went to England in the early 1930s and went to stay with "Aunt Millie" in Ramsgate but this is all my father knows. Alfred had 4 children in Australia. My grandmother was the eldest, born in 1896. Apparently he left Australia when the children were quite young and returned to England where he died. I'm not sure whether his return to England was permanent or not but I hear his wife was a very unpleasant woman who never remarried and lived a very lonely existance until she died while in her 90s. A good reason not to return perhaps? I have found a cemetery record of Alfred Canney at St Lawrence, Ramgate who was interred on 22/12/1914 aged 52. His last abode was 19 Penshurst rd Ramsgate. This fits as I heard he died while staying with his sister. I plan on checking this out in July when I over there. Cheers
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/57.2 Message Board Post: Further to my last post... Alfred did have a sister, Camilla (Millie?).
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/57.1 Message Board Post: I have an Alfred Canney in my family tree born 1862 Brighton England, Died Ramsgate 1914. He was one of nine children born to James Claringbold Canney and Ann McAllister.Might this be your Alfred?
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JVH.2ACEB/57 Message Board Post: Looking for my great grandfather but have very limited information I believe he came to Australia in the 1890's and married Blanche McMillan in 1894? in Melbourne Victoria. He left his wife behind and returned to England where he died I believe he had a sister Millie who lived in Ramsgate England Any info much appreciated
Many thanks to Diane Murach who has extracted entries for Henry (et al) from the SALEM VILLAGE RECORD BOOK [For Years 1672 1713]. These are on the web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/Salem%20Village%20Records.htm The source is on the web and there's a link on the above page (click on SOURCE). All of these items have not yet been integrated into the Timeline (will do that when time permits). Here's the Timeline link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/Timeline.htm The record book shows Henry in a better light (active in church community) than does the current Timeline entries (slander, lawsuits, witch trial, etc.). This should bring some comfort to descendants who heretofore had seen only genealogies reporting his fine character, and then saw the Timeline, and then were a bit stunned. Georgia Kinney Bopp
Short version of this email: Timeline has a lot of stuff on it; here's the link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/Timeline.htm Long version: I made a big deal about only posting to one list when I announced Henry's Timeline project. That was because I thought there would be a lot of feedback and it would work best to keep it on the KINNEY list - since it has the most subscribers -and to not have too many duplicate postings. However, what happened was, no posts on the list/s but many private emails to me. Several people have provided information and continue to do so (they are noted on the Timeline). When I proposed the Timeline, I pictured a modest little project. Over the years, I had saved about a dozen posts from people like Jeff Green and Mark Vernon - posts with transcriptions from reliable books - and I thought I'd put them all together and over time, as we found reliable sources, we'd add a scan of the source, etc. to the Timeline and it would be on the web for all. But - oh my! It's amazing what is online - and more is added daily. In a couple of instances, while asking for a scan or to be mailed a copy of something, a day or two later someone would report the item was online - free! Hence, the Timeline is quite unwieldy and that does not include about 30 items from a Salem Village Record Book that one of the volunteers is working on right now (it's online and she's extracting Henry items). Hence, the Timeline continues to be messy and will probably be so for a while. It's a bit hard to tell the forest from the trees right now but some may want to check it out again. The bottom line about Henry to date is: 1) date/place/birth/baptism, names of parents, earlier ancestry, immigration - still NO EVIDENCE 2) he was not always well behaved - that's omitted in most known genealogies 3) many spelling variations in early records but no sign of the KINNE variation in any - noted here because I find that amusing since Robertson and earlier genealogies use this as the primary spelling variation (my guess is the descendants using the KINNE variation by ca. 1900 were the most active/affluent) Another reason to check out the Timeline is to see the links to online material (e.g., Sidney Perley's The History of Salem, Massachusetts - 3 Volumes). You may be interested in those resources for your other lines in the area Many thanks to all of you who are contributing information! By the way, starting next Wednesday, I may not have computer access for a couple of weeks. If you respond on the lists and/or send more items, be patient if you don't hear back from me for a while. Georgia Kinney Bopp http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/HENRY/Timeline.htm or - a shorter url is: http://tinyurl.com/zvqlo