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    1. [CANE] Leave a Farewell Message
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Leave a Farewell Message*_/ This post was by Judith to MODAVIES: suggestion: People may want to post a "farewell" message on the mailing list before it goes to archive, and in this message include an email you plan to keep for the foreseeable future. A separate email could be set up expressly for this purpose if it is more convenient/secure. (You'll want web-based, not provider-based.) That way, if someone peruses the archive & finds a possible connection, they would have a way to get in touch with you privately. I have been on a couple of lists that went archival at some point, and I really wish I had done that, as our old email was provider-based and - once that provider went defunct, people looking through the defunct mailing list had no way to contact me (nor I them) It's easier to track people down these days, but I'd still suggest this. I think this to be an excellent idea, wish I thought it. I would like to expand to suggest that a post to include Your name, best address to reach you (one that might be dedicated to your genealogy research), a list surname(s) of interest, a list to places of interest (country, region, state, county), subject of interest, snail mail address (at your own risk), telephone number (again at your own risk), web address if you have a website, where you “moved.” Please keep in mind these to be suggestions and you should only provide what you would be comfortable for “ibots” to find. Might not want to wait to last minute. This would give system to process information and have it posted. With this in mind, please do not be concerned when you see my post to the nearly 300 (took inventory; final count was 298 – just sharing) mailing lists I admin. I will be leaving my time capsule to the list(s) in the coming days. But I will be here til Roots Web turn off the lights and lock the door. Let me take a few lines to acknowledge all the “thank-you” I have received. I started with a few surnames and expanded to counties more recently. But you are all “welcomed.” I try serve with the volunteer spirit and a happy heart. Please overlook my frustration that may boil to the top in the coming days. Susan

    01/13/2020 12:31:37
    1. [CANE] Ramblings from the Backseat
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Ramblings from the Backseat*_/ Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. I have already announced that as of March 2^nd , when Roots Web ceases to function as a mailing list that I will be hanging up my administrator's hat. These are my observations and suggestions going forward. First and foremost, someone needs to step-up to be new administrator, chairman, leader, whatever title you like. Next a decision should be made whether to remain a mailing list or a bulletin board. Of course, what is to say both could be established. I personally have not read, but Dick Eastman has endorsed Group.io as a venue for mailing list. From what little time I have had, I would lean toward Group.io to maintain mailing list format. I have no experience with bulletin boards therefore I have no input. I am hearing Facebook, but I have issues with privacy and whether someone would make the site secure enough. I am sure there are other venues for bulletin board format. Can not stop someone setting up FB account, just do not bother to invite me. Also, Ancestry has an established bulletin board area, it is functioning. Due to the activity on most state lists, my next suggestion would be that county mailing lists consolidate to form one state list. When activity is established divide into regions. Too much activity then establish a county list (start at the top and drill down). Under the blanket of a state list posting could use subject line to keep the identity of the county ie; SUBJECT: [AL-SUMTER] Looking for … Surname lists are a horse of a different color. Suggestion here would be to make use of subject line. Kinda like reading a newspaper, the subject line is like a headline of a newspaper. Personally I pay attention to an informative subject line. A worry in the back of my mind is with the “mass exodus” from Roots Web to other venue on whether that venue can handle the new activity or whether “we” will cause that venue to crash and burn. Here's hoping that is a needless concern. Once the list is established … there needs to be centralized place where a directory or a place of registration that searching community would go to find the list. Since I am US based, USGenWeb comes to mind. This maybe more difficult step. USGenWeb sites are individually maintained. Hearing rumblings that this may be solved in the near future. Last concern (for the moment) would be “being nice and playing well with others.” Personally, have not experienced this problem. Frustration, maybe. Especially when Roots Web fell apart and returned “fixed” with continuing problems. For example, I still have to push through a post from someone using AOL. AOL users … this is why your post takes a little longer to be seen. Sorry, I do my best with the tools I have to work with. Patience is probably going to be the keyword in days to come. Patience with the leaders that will step forward. They are going to be putting a lot on their plates and will need support in establishing a new venue and getting it working, establishing their rules, etc. Congratulation to those lists that have found a “new home.” From what I see you are in good hands! Will try to make this last posting to those newly adopted lists. (Posting to all lists today.) At this point in time, Family Trees, Message Boards, Web Sites, & Wiki at Roots Web are not effected to my knowledge. Of course, Message Boards are already part of Ancestry. So open conversation. Work on finding a volunteer to lead the list forward. I'm gonna stop rambling for the moment. I'm here till they turn off the lights and lock the door. Susan

    01/12/2020 01:16:43
    1. [CANE] Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership to list please do the following: Insert or substitute listname before dash. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to listname-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:wvlogan-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. OR A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered an act of kindness.

    01/11/2020 09:51:47
    1. [CANE] Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover

    01/10/2020 07:46:05
    1. [CANE] Update
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Hi everyone! This has been heavy on my heart since Ancestry / Roots Web announcement. I have been admin / moderator for various mailing lists for 25+ years (some lists that predate Roots Web). The options for change do not fit my personal criteria. This is, also, not happening at a time I am able to give personal time for this change. Plus, I think Ancestry is not given an adequate “heads up” for this change. (I personally admin 200+ lists) So I have made the decision to become a subscriber as opposed to an administrator. I will remain admin to the mailing lists I currently admin till Roots Web makes the changes they propose on March 2^nd . I am leaving the decision for change to the list members. I am still gathering options. I will post suggestions in the next few days. The major option I am hearing is Facebook. I suppose this could work. But Facebook, in my humble opinion, would be turning a mailing list into a message board. And various mailing list members have stated they would not Facebook. Personally, I am in this bucket. I have personal issues with Facebook. Open discussion on the list. Voice your opinion. Enough for now. Will post more on other options in the future. Susan Penn Groover, List Administrator -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/09/2020 07:34:25
    1. [CANE] Roots Web no longer supporting mailing list in March 2020
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. For those that have not heard the news ... Rootsweb will no longer be supporting mailing lists in March 2020.  It will remain read only, so archives will be accessible.  In my mind, I question how long. Please keep in mind that each mailing list archives is the property of RootsWeb and will not be able to moved, removed, etc. Only the mailing list members list will be accessible by the admin for that list. I am looking for alternatives which I have started listing below. Alternatives: Ancestry -- as I understand, this alternative is platform based. Meaning one would have to long into to post a message as opposed to simply sending an e-mail. Groups.io -- would keep mailing, but to get full function a fee would be required. Google Groups -- I have not researched this option.  Personally, I have issues with Google and will not pursue this option as admin. I suppose the major decision is whether to remain an e-mail based Group or platform based? My personal prerequisite is that it is FREE. Discussion in open... Susan Groover, List Admin. -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/08/2020 07:53:32
    1. [CANE] From the List Owner (Susan Penn Groover)
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Hello folks, and welcome back to RootsWeb's newly upgraded list system. If you are receiving this post it is because you are still a subscriber to this list, even though things have been pretty quiet due to a number of issues lately. The lists are back now, and I believe you will like the improvements that have been made. The most obvious improvement is a new RootsWeb login system, which you will find at the following link: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail Only one account per person is needed, and once you have created it you will be able to organize and manage all of your list subscriptions in one handy location. Like anything new there will be something of a learning curve in the beginning, but I really think you will like it for the new security and personalization features for your list subscriptions. And last but not least, please note my email address as List Owner immediately below this message and following my name. Also note the "List information" link below that, which will take you to the information page for this list, where you will find information to help you subscribe, unsubscribe, and some other things based on the current status of your new log in account. I welcome you back to the list, and look forward to working with you in the future tracking down our elusive ancestors. Susan Penn Groover /cane-owner@rootsweb.com <mailto:cane-owner@rootsweb.com>/ List Owner of the CANE mailing list on RootsWeb List information: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/cane.rootsweb.com/ -- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    05/11/2018 06:59:07
    1. [CANE] Lou Agnes Demaree Cane and her sister Katherine Demaree Cane, dau. of Jesse and Catherine Demaree, Frankfort, KY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jacassidy22 Surnames: Cane, Demaree, Rucker, Hawkins Hill Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/96/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the descendants of Thomas Pierce Demaree born a slave of Samuel Demaree in Henry County Kentucky in 1853, he lived with the family of Samuel's children Samuel, Betsey, and John Milton. When Pierce was a teenager he was shot in the arm by the KKK and it had to be removed. He had a son Jesse born in 1888, perhaps Kitt, another Demaree slave and secondly he married Phoebe Rucker around 1901, married by John Milton Demaree. Pierce, as he was known and his son Jesse, were living with his sister Sarah Agnes Hawkins and her husband Bob in 1900 in Christiansburg, Shelby County, KY but they later moved to Frankfort where they lived on East Third Street. He was a janitor, probably at First Corenthians on Murray Street and also worked at the Captial. Pierce died in 1960. Jesse was the father of Katherine Demaree Cane. I am writing a manuscript called the History of the Low Dutch Slaves, and I would love to discover the date of Pierces date, the location and where he is buried. Both the African American Demarees and the white Demaree families remained in contact with one another during Pierce's life time. So if anyone can help me, I would appreciate hearing from you. I would also like the birth and death information for Jesse, his wife Catherine and their children. If children Robert Demaree and Abbie Hill of Tuscon, AZ are still living I would like to email them. I am more than happy to share what I have gathered with family members and will be happy to credit your submissions if I can use them in this document. Judith Smith Cassidy jacassidy22@verizon.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    03/07/2014 06:10:30
    1. Re: [CANE] CANE Family
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: georginacane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/49.7/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Claudia, My name is Georgina Cane i live in New Zealand & my father's family of Canes are from Shoreditch In Middlesex England. I started doing my fathers history at the begining of the year.In fact I can remember a link that I had found to a family of Canes in Italy which I messaged but did not hear anything back from. I to thought they were of Jewish origin hence the name Cane of Cain & Abel from the Bible, but a contact I had from Canada said that our name was not Jewish, but I beg to differ. Also a lady I had meet several years ago was telling me that our family of Canes were descendants of Bulgarian gypsies, but although it sounds interesting I haven't got that far into the family's history to confirm that. What I do know is:- my Mother once told me that the Canes had immigrated from Ireland to England because of the potato famine in Ireland. I apologize for taking so long to reply, I have only just found your link also my computer is very slow...Please write back ! as it was lovely to hear from you & if their is anything I cane help with, please feel free to ask, regards Georgie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/14/2013 04:06:25
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryRains51 Surnames: Niles/Belfry/Rutledge/Cane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William Cane Niles was the son of Lucy Cane and Thomas Nathaniel Niles Sr. William married Amelia Belfry. William had a sister Olive H. and a brother Thomas Nathaniel Niles Jr. Nathaniel Niles Jr. was married to Margaret Rutledge, my great-great-aunt. They had three children ....William Cane Niles (2nd), Thomas Marvin Niles and Olive Lucy Niles. Nathaniel and Margaret died in 1890. Upon their death, Olive Lucy went to live with her father's cousin, Henry Stiles Cane. She appears in the his household in the 1891 c. and they are referenced among other places, in Olive's obituary. All of these families are connected....Belfry, Cane, Niles and Rutledge. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/12/2013 01:50:43
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fredcane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://www.geni.com/people/Samuel-Cane/6000000013801779615 How many Samuel Canes are there? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/12/2013 12:06:56
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fredcane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A cousin from the Belfry side? The mystery unravels Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/12/2013 11:44:31
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryRains51 Surnames: Niles/Cane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Fred. I don't mean to dispute your family history. Olive H. Niles died in 1961 and her obituary appeared in the Newmarket Era. The 2nd paragraph states: "After the death of her parents, Miss Niles spent the early years of her life at the home of her cousin, the late Mr. and Mrs. H.S. Cane." If you check the 1891 c. you will find Olive living with Henry, Mary, Howard and Lawrence. She is listed as "Lodger." Her father was a first cousin of Henry Stiles Cane. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/12/2013 09:00:42
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fredcane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Henry Stiles Cane ( Sept 19, 1850-Dec 28, 1927) , my great grandfather, married Mary A. Armitage ( Aug. 28, 1848- Dec. 8, 1929) daughter of Seba Armitage. The rest is history. I would be happy to scan and send you the records from the Newmarket Historical Society. The other names you mentioned are not recorded in my family history. F. Cane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/12/2013 07:36:11
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryRains51 Surnames: Niles/Cane/Belfry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Fred, My grandmother's family was all from Newmarket/Mt. Albert/Queensville area. From census, marriage records, early biographies I have evidence that Lucy Cane was a sister of William Cane of Newmarket. She married first Thomas Nathaniel Niles who died prior to 1860 then married Henry Stiles, the husband of Thirza Belfry who had also died previously. Lucy had a son named William Cane Niles who married Amelia Belfry, daughter of Christopher Belfry. When Lucy's son and daughter-in-law died in 1890, her granddaughter, Olive, went to live with the family of Henry Stiles Cane in Newmarket. At least that's what all the evidence says. Much of this can be found on Ancestry. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/11/2013 09:29:39
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fredcane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.2.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William Cane ( 1822-1899) ? This William Cane ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/11/2013 07:58:22
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fredcane Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, there are no Niles family associated with the Canes of Newmarket that I can find. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/11/2013 07:45:51
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryRains51 Surnames: Niles/Rutledge/Cane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.2.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for confirming! All my data supported that and that is how I have her entered in the family tree. Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/27/2013 12:59:42
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharonalex Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lucy Ann was William Cane's younger sister. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/27/2013 08:40:08
    1. Re: [CANE] Thomas & Margaret Niles -- related to Cane
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryRains51 Surnames: Niles/Rutledge Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cane/22.1.1.3.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From the marriage records, etc. that I have located, I have Lucy Cane married to Thomas Nathaniel Niles Sr. Upon his death, she married Henry Dodd Stiles, widower of Thirza Belfry, in 1860. They had two sons, Chester and Cyrus. Lucy also had three previous children: William Cane Niles who married Amelia Belfry, Thomas Nathaniel Jr. who married Margaret Rutledge and Olive H. who married Elias E. Widdifield. Thomas Jr. and Margaret had three children: William Cane Niles, Thomas Marvin Niles and Olive Lucy. When Thomas Nathaniel Jr and Margaret both died in 1890, William and Marvin went to live with my great-great-grandmother and her daughter, Annie (later Annie Stephens). Olive went to live with the family of Henry S. Cane in Newmarket. At least that is what I've gleaned from the information I have researched (see the 1861 and 1871 census, and the 1891 census). Does any of this fit with your information? Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/26/2013 05:47:17