Hi Helen Thanks for the SMART info I shall investigate them. All mine ended up in Warrington, Lancashire from Stoke on Trent around 1904/5. Before that they were found in 1881 census in Birmingham, still in Birmingham 1871 and found in Wotton under Edge, Gloucestershire in 1851. They were Boatmen and Iron Workers. If you need any details please let me know. Regards Celia