Hi Dianne I'll just list what Vickers there are and hopefully they will all be helpful to you. Cromford Canal Permits Name,Ref,Permit no,Boat No G Vickars, B44, 347, 1309/1461 C Vickers, B44, 2584, 1309/1460 G Vickers, B45, 2786, 1309/1460 W Vickers, B46, 567, 1309 Trent Navigation Co. Gauging Tables Name, Boat registration no, master or owner, year J Vickers, 478, master, 1811 J Vickers, 936, master, 1816 J Vickers, 937, master, 1816 J Vickers, 1749, master, 1853 J Vickers, 1750, master, 1853 J Vickers, 1750, master, 1853 S Vickers, 881, previous owner, 1815 Regards Helen -----Original Message----- From: Balloon Expedition Co, N.Z [mailto:balexped@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 21 February 2002 14:04 To: Jones, Helen Subject: RE: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Dear Helen no doubt bombarded ! I am looking for William VICKERS and at least one son James c1820 - 1870 William lived in Wharf Row Brinsley Derby- James seems to have moved about quite a bit on the Notts/Derby boarder Regards and thanks you Dianne McKee New Zealand