Hi Helen Thanks for the SMART info I shall investigate them. All mine ended up in Warrington, Lancashire from Stoke on Trent around 1904/5. Before that they were found in 1881 census in Birmingham, still in Birmingham 1871 and found in Wotton under Edge, Gloucestershire in 1851. They were Boatmen and Iron Workers. If you need any details please let me know. Regards Celia

Hi Folks, Here is another list of Boatmnen & Allied trades ,ALL addresses are still BIRMINGHAM,WARICK. at 6 Disraeli Place,Heath St, Thomas STEVENTON/M/38/Boatman (W) (Birmingham) with wife& 3 ch at 313 Heath St, Henery HIAM/M/34/Canal Clerk/ (Cheltenham) with wife 4 ch, servt & visitor at 64 James Turner St, William BARKER/M/52/Boat Builder (Stourport,Worcester) with son/in/law & his family at Bk 18 Cuthbert Rd John BATTY/M/44/Boatman (Bilston,Stafford) with wife & 8 ch. at 3 Aberdeen St, Robert TAYLOR/M/29 Boatman Barge ( Gt Stanton,Warwick) with wife & 3 ch and Alfred TAYLOR/U/18/Boatman Barge (B'ham,Warwick) all with parents James & Eliz. at 3 Bk of 6 Peel St. John KEY/M/67/Boatman (Barge) ( Arnitage,Middlesex) with wife at Bk 40 Peel St, Robert OSBORNE/M/42/BOat Builder (Mountsorrel,Leicester) with wife & 5 ch at 61 Peel St, John Halam SMART/M/46/Boat Labourer (Worcester,Worcester) with wife 7 ch & 4 boarders. at 74 Norman St, John BAYLISS/M/59/Boat Builder/(Goodrich,Hereford) with wife & lodger at Heaton St,Glanravon Terr 4, Mary JOHNSON/W/71/Boatwoman (B...) (Birmingham,Warwick) at 205 Lodge Road, William HOPCROFT/M/41/Labourer at Coal Wharf (Tewkesbury,Worcester) with wife & 4 sons at Bk Richmond Place,Park Road. Arthur.J.VORSEY ?/M/24/Steerer (Tipton,Stafford) with wife son & brother--- George.C.VORSEY ? /17/Boatman Barge (Birmm,Warwick) bro. at 370 Park Rd, John BIRD/M/28/Boat Man (Barge) (B'ham,Warwick) with wife & 3 ch at 1 Lees St,Bright Ct, Henry LEWIN/M/48/Boatman (Barge) with wife , 4 ch & lodger at 4 Bk,75 Devonshire St, George COLEY/M/56/ (Barge) Boatman (Wednesbury,Staffird) with son and h/w/ at 2 First Row,Talbot St, Thomas NEWEY/26/Boatman (Barge) (Leamington,Warwick) boarder with Hinchley family ar 4 Back,90 Talbot St, Joseph COLLERELL/M/38/Boatman (Barge) (Birmm,Warwick) with wife & 5 ch at 43 Norton St, Ernest.P.JONES/U/20/Boatman (Bays) (Bromsgrove,Worcester) with parents & sisters at Soho Wharf, Walter LUCAS/U/18/Coal Wharf General Servant (Chipping Camden,Gloucester) with william Walton & family at Wharf Lane, Edward PRICE/M/66/Canal Co.Labourer (In Serv) (Leicester,Leicester) with wife & 2 ch, and Lodger and his family (Ray) at 16 Fleet St, Teca ? THORNTON/M/22/Boatman (Barge) with wife ,dau & 3 boarders at 1 House,5 Court Fleet St, Enoch BROOKS/M/34/Boatman Barge (Birmingham) with wife ,5 daus ,2 nephews & 2 boarders at 5 House,5 Court Fleet St, Joseph PAINTER/U/23/Barge Boatman (Birmingham) with parents at 1 House 6 Court Fleet St, William EVANS/M/21/Barge Boatman (Birmingham) with wife at 9 House 6 Court Fleet St, Thomas COOPER/M/35/Barge Boatman (Birmingham) with his wife & 2 ch all boarders with Thomas Silk & family at 21 House 6 Court Fleet St, Edward MORAN/U/22/Boatman (Birmingham) boarder with other with Patrick MORAN and Thomas MORGAN/U/23 (Birmingham) also boarder at 2 Court 6 House Water St, Fredrick GLOVER/M/21/Barge Boat Man (Harborne,Worcester) with wife at 10 Charlotte St, Edwin HARLEY/Boat Man (Barge) with father W, bro & boarder at 64 Charlotte St, George TRANTER/M/46/Waterman ,serv (Head) (Birmingham Warwick) with John CALLAHAN/M/43/Waterman (Cork Ireland) serv. at 1 Court 9 Newhall St, John Thos BADHAMS/ Coal Boat Emptier ? (Lab) (Gloucester) with brother at The Lock House, James BADDLEY/M/48/Lock Keeper I or J N S (udley,Worcester) with wife & 4 ch. no address. Birmingham Warwick John TWIGG/M57/Steerer in Charge of Boat (Barge) (Himbleton,Worcester) with wife & serv---James SKENRITE/U/27/Seiver & Labourer )B'ham,Warwick) serv. regards Thelma

Hello Celia The following appears in the Trent Nav Co Gauging Tables Name, no, owner or master, year S Smart, 2019, master, 1877 S Smart, 2019, owner, 1877 W Smart, 1644, previous owner, 1844 W Smart, 1988, master, 1873 I have some 'Smarts' in my family tree. Did any of yours venture further north to the Rotherham area, South Yorkshire? Helen -----Original Message----- From: johnbailey51 [mailto:johnbailey51@netscapeonline.co.uk] Sent: 05 March 2002 17:16 To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] SMART LOOK-UP Hi Helen I wonder if you could spare the time to look-up any boat people called SMART. I have proved that they worked on boats in 1850 onwards but started in Gloucestershire and worked from there to Birmingham and Staffordshire and maybe anywhere throuhg to the 1880's. Regards Celia Bailey ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== C J Genealogical Collections Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Sorry Ken, he's not on these indexes. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth John Harrison [mailto:kenharrison@woodleigh82.worldonline.co.uk] Sent: 07 March 2002 14:35 To: Jones, Helen Subject: Jonas Beaver Dear Helen, Futher to the message below, I forgot to say he lived in Chorley / Heath Charnock, Lancs. Thanks Ken I am looking for my g g grandfather Jonas Beaver, Boatman (later "Captain") I guess he would be born about 1831. His wife was Nancy Fox and thir son was Joseph Beaver. Could you help? I should be most grateful. Yours Ken Harrison

Sorry Claire, as predicted no Bosleys! Helen -----Original Message----- From: Claire Richardson [mailto:elvispresleylives4ever@hotmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2002 08:46 To: Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk Subject: Re: FW: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Dear Helen I would be very interested to know if there are any Bosleys in your indexes - knowing my luck there won't be but it's always worth a try! Thanks. Claire in Nottingham

I know there is a boat gathering at Elleslmere Port over the Easter Weekend - can anyone tell me if there is any charge and when it is fom and to, please?

John In the Trent Navigation Co Gauging Tables there are no Worseys, there are a couple of Worthys: Name, no, owner or master, year T Worthy, 1523, master, 1838 T Worthy, 1524, master, 1838 Cromford Canal Permits (name, ref no, permit no, boat no) T Worthey, B44, 467, 1523 In relation to your other enquiry, these indexes are only for the Nottingham area. I can only assume that the records for the BCN would be in the archives in Birmingham. The Canal Boat Acts of 1877 and 1878 required canal boats to be registered. Helen -----Original Message----- From: John CARRINGTON [mailto:john_carrington@lineone.net] Sent: 28 February 2002 21:16 To: Jones, Helen Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Helen I'm interested in WORSEY who were boat builders and carriers on the BCN. Any trace All the best John Carrington

Thanks and sorry to take up bandwidth - Asked sister to check Nanas address book and there it was - BEAVEN Thanks DIa NZ

I am researching the VICKERS family from around the Derby/Notts border. I have a letter written to my grandmother in 1967 from a Maude ? who lived at 47 Bancroft Rd Seacroft Leeds How can I find out Maude's surname. In the letter she speaks of several cousins which are crucial to my next step ANy help appreciated and thanks in advance . Dianne McKee New Zealand

Hi listers My heartfelt thanks to the many, many listers who replied with suggestions as to the whereabouts of my ancestor Ellen NICHOLLS in 1881. I think we may possibly have got her! Most listers suggested this entry. 3 Barton St, Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Joseph Henry KNIGHT M 28 M Tewkesbury, Gloucester, England Rel: Head, Occ: Shoemaker Employing 1 Man And Boy Ellen NICHOLLS U 18 F Overbury, Worcester, England Rel: Serv, Occ: Domestic Servant This was the best I had found too just looking through fiche a few years ago. It is possible, but I think it's unlikely. There is an Overbury in Worcs, not very far from Tewkesbury in Gloucs, so I think this is probably a different person. Of course it's possible that Ellen said she was born Oldbury and the enumerator, never having heard of it, wrote this down as Overbury which he had heard of. [I've encountered something similar. An ancestor living in Oldbury said he was from Rowney Green, which is in the parish of Alvechurch. The enumerator wrote it as Rowley Green. Rowley is of course the next parish to Oldbury (although I don't know of a Rowley Green)]. Some listers came up with this entry. Ford School, Dodderhill, Worcester, England Williams SIMMONS M 64 M Buxted, Sussex, England Rel: Head, Occ: Retired Comnerical Traveler Jane SIMMONS M 62 F Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Rel: Wife, Occ: Principal Of Ladies Boarding School Sarah HORTON U 58 F Alvechurch, Worcester, England Rel: Sister-In-Law, Occ: Principal Of Ladies Boarding School Ellen M. NICHOLS U 16 F Worcester, City Of, Worcester, England Rel: Boarder, Occ: Pupil I'm sure this isn't my Ellen, not least because she was a clay carrier aged 9 in 1871 (which I admit I didn't include in the request) so a Ladies Boarding School doesn't quite fit! But step forward Leslie Prpich, who, by some radical lateral thinking, came up with this, right under my nose all along. 36 Stone St, Oldbury, Worcester, England Edward MURRAY M 24 M Oldbury, Worcester, England, Rel: Head, Occ: Iron Worker Eliza MURRAY M 24 F Oldbury, Worcester, England, Rel: Wife William MURRAY 2 M Oldbury, Worcester, England, Rel: Son Elizabeth MURRAY 1 F Oldbury, Worcester, England, Rel: Daug Sarah NICHOLAS U 21 F Oldbury, Worcester, England, Rel: Boarder, Occ: Brick Maker Almost everything fits. The age is right (within a year or so). She was a clay carrier aged 9 in 1871 so being a Brick Maker is exactly right. Ellen's mother Mary had died in 1880, so being a Boarder is right. (I didn't give these previous details in the request, I know!). And the address is perfect, since Stone street is just round the corner from Lodge street where future husband John BERESFORD was living. And to cap it all, Stone street is where John and Ellen BERESFORD lived from 1884 onward and perhaps earlier. And NICHOLAS is a variant of NICHOLLS that I've encountered. Of course, Sarah isn't Ellen! But as Meatloaf sang, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, and I've got 5 out of 6. The real test will be whether there's another Sarah NICHOLAS in Oldbury in 1871 aged about 10. I can't wait to check next time I travel to the Midlands. Thanks again to everyone. Paul Prescott

Could SKS please help with an 1881 census look-up. I should add before you start that this is a difficult one that has defeated me for decades, even with the help of the LDS 1881 census fiche (the CD version wasn't out when I last tried). I'm looking for my great grandmother Ellen NICHOLLS. She was born 9th November 1861 in Oldbury, Worcs, so should be 19 in 1881. In 1871 she was at Brades Road Oldbury with her widowed mother Mary NICHOLLS. In 1881 her future husband John BERESFORD was at Lodge Street, Oldbury Worcs. In May 1882 she married him at Wolverhampton St Matthew. Both gave their address as Horseley Fields, Wolverhampton. John BERESFORD was a boatman, and Horseley Fields is, of course, by the canal, so there is a possibility that in 1881 Ellen NICHOLLS was elsewhere on the canal network. >From 1884 John and Ellen BERESFORD (nee NICHOLLS) are back in Oldbury. I've failed to find Ellen NICHOLLS on the 1881 LDS fiche in Worcs, Staffs. Warwicks or Salop. A search might be needed like this, perhaps: First Name: Ellen or Eleanor or Helen. Surname: NIC* (I've encountered NICHO(L)L(D)S, NICHOLAS, plus all versions with K instead of H, not to mention NICKLES(S) and NICKLOS) Age: 15-25. Sorry about all the complications, but this one has been bugging me since 1982 when the census first came out! TIA Paul Prescott

Hi Pen, Thanks so much for your input Is there a section in the trade directory for Boatmen ? This family is not in the 1881 census or the 1891 census. The Boat Museum sent the following details : St Mary - 38/306 - Joseph - 1894 - son of Joseph & Mary Jane Witkiss - boat Nellie - Boatman St Mary - 127/1014 - Charles - 1896 - son of Joseph & Mary Jane Witkiss - boat Bessimer - Boatman St Mary - 203/1622 - Emily - 1898 - dau of Joseph & Mary Jane Witkiss - 1 ct. Mill Street - Boatman St Mary - 248/1984 - Joseph - 1900 - son of Joseph & Mary Jane Witkiss - boat Martha - Boatman Can anyone help us ? TIA Alex & Jan Sydney OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: FOUNTAlNPen@aol.com To: ajfit@ispdr.net.au Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [STS] 1901 Trade Directory Dear Alex & Jan, Never mind: this is what came under 'Wolverhamton' <g> WATKIS, Frank, professor of music, 63 Queen Street. WATKISS, Martha, (Mrs), butcher, 526 Dudley Road. WATKISS, Thomas, fancy draper, 23 North Street. Pen x Cheshire pages, Staffordshire/Shropshire pages www.fountalnpen.com Everything is connected.

Lorna, Have you considered this might be something to do with fly boats. They might have required a conductor, I'm assuming like a bus does today. (or did) Phil in Hales Owen havr yopu thought -----Original Message----- From: LORNA.YORK@northampton.ac.uk <LORNA.YORK@northampton.ac.uk> To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 24 January 2002 19:40 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Boat Conductor >Hi List >Today whilst abstacting baptism records from Long Buckby parish records I came >across the Occupation of Boat Conductor. There are two families the Threshers >and the Thompsons some of the baptismal records state boatman others had boat >conductor. I have never seen this before and wondered if anybody else had and >could give me an explanation. >

Midlanders on this List, I don't recall seeing a mention of this but you might like to know/be reminded about the TV programme "Waterworld" on Carlton. Last night was the third (of probably 6 or 8). You can catch it each Tuesday at 7:30 pm. Last night saw the end of a holiday for three boatloads of N.Americans, a snatch of life for a lock keeper and a strange person cycling along the canal. (The wet bit not the tow path) Apologies to those outside the area or those without electricity Phil in Hales Owen.

Hello Listers, We have been waiting for the 1901 census to locate a family in Wolverhampton, and are now hoping someone may be able to look them up for us Joseph WITKISS b 1900 Old Mill Street, Wolverhampton - his father was Joseph a canal boatman, mother Mary Jane nee WOOD 3 boats are mentioned in the details from Norman Holt files - NELLIE, BESSEMER & MARTHA are mentioned for the childrens births. Can anyone look up this family for us ? TIA Alex & Jan Sydney OZ

Hi Helen I wonder if you could spare the time to look-up any boat people called SMART. I have proved that they worked on boats in 1850 onwards but started in Gloucestershire and worked from there to Birmingham and Staffordshire and maybe anywhere throuhg to the 1880's. Regards Celia Bailey

Hi Folks, Here is another listof boatmen & allied trades, ALL adresses are BIRMINGHAM,WARWICKS at 25 Bewery St, Thomas JOHNSON/U/50/Master Boat Maker (Birmingham)with sister at 24 Brewery St, Thomas DAVIS M/40/Maste Boat Maker with weife 2 daus * Mother/in/law (Once again I wonder if the above two entries have been incorrectly transcribed and should really be Boot Makers ????) at Ct 5 71 Manchester, William THOMPSON/M/40/Boatman (W) (Tipton,Stafford) with wife ,dau & lodger with his wife. at 3 Ct 3H Manchester St Thomas CLARKE/M/21 Boatman (W)(Birmingham) Boarder with wife, both with his mother W, & her family at 2 Ct 1H Brewery St, James HAYNES/M/48/Boatman (W) (Birmingham) with wife & 6 ch. at5H 2Ct Brewery St, Henry OSBORNE/M/30/Boatman (W) (Birmingham) with wife ,son & boarder at 4 Back 90 Talbot St, Joseph COLLERELL/M/38/Boatman (Barge) (Birmm,Warwick) with wife & 5ch at 11 H Newtown row, Thomas PARKER/M/27/Boat Man (Birmingham) with wife, lodger with others with Matilda Gill,W. at 3 Ct 4H Brewery St, John COX/M/35/(W)Boatman Labourer (Birmingham) with wife 2 ch & sister at 6H 3 Ct Brewery St, Samuel CATTELL/U/17 (W) Boatman (Birmingham) with Mother, 4 bros, &n 2 visitors at 103 Lichfield St. Charles Bullock M/40/Boatman (Birmm,Warwick) Lodger--alone at 7 London Prentice St, John EGGISON/M/34/ Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick) with wife & 4ch at Bk 155 Bridge St West, Thomas KIMBERLEY/M/47/BOat Man (Stoak Goulding,Leicester) with wife & 3 ch at 77 Snow Hill, Jamie SMITH/M/53/Wharfinger (Sedgeley Stafford) with wife, son & niece (McDonegall) at 8c 10H Princip St, John PRICE/U/25/Boat Man (B'ham,Warwick) lodgr with James Pearson & family at Ct 1 3 Russell St, James HEMMING/M/39/Boatman (W) (Stourport,Worcester) with wife & 4 ch. at 7 & 8 Thomas St William Price/U/20/Boatman Unemployed (Birmingham) lodger with others at 29 Baggott St, Charles UPTON/M/31/Boatman (W) (B'ham Warwick) withwife, son & boarder at 8 Court 5 Baggott St, Wm.BRADLEY/M/40/BOatman (W) (Derby) with wife, 3 ch & boarder incl--- Saml.BRADLEY/U/16/Boatman (W) (B'ham Warwick)son, and John WIGGINS/U/30/Boatman (B'ham,Warwick) at Staniforth St 15 Court House 1 Mary FARNWORTH/W/79/Boatwoman (Birmingham,Warwick) with son & 3 boarders incl John FARNWORTH/U/21 (Birmingham,Warwick) son ? at 8 Court 5 H Fisher St, Samuel MOSS /M/24/Boatman (W) (Aston,Warwick) with wife & 2 ch at 7 York St, William FARNSWORTH/M/40/Boatman (W) (Birmm,Warwick) with wife & 4 ch at No 5, 8 & 9 "York Row" (York St) William WEBSTER/M/45/ Ferrie Gate Keeper (MF) (Ashby de la Zouch,Leicester) with wife 3 daus,Mother/in/law (Gatten) & boarder at 41 Ct 12 House,Newtown Row Samuel HANDLEY/M/45/Boatman (Shardlow,Warwick) with wife,7 ch 2 Grd.ch & lodger incl--Alfred HANDLEY/U/18/Boatman (Tipton,Stafford) son at Back 44 2 House New Summer Stm George BARTOMIR/M/36/Boatman (Birm,Warwick) with wife & 4 ch at General Hospital,Summer Lane, Rose Ann HALTON/U/16/Boat Girl (Birmingham,Warwick) patient at 87 Northwood St, Joseph STANTON/M/48/Boatman (W) (Wolverton,Buckingham) with wife & 2 daus at 7 Bedford Ter,College St, William HALL/M/36/C Boatman (Worcester,Worcester) with wife 4 ch & boarder at 33 Winson St, James CAMODIEN/M/Boat Maker (Ship) (Belbrough,Worcester) with wife & 2 sons at 285 Dudley Rd John Bagley/M/60/Canal Clerk (Tipton,Stafford) with wife & son at 19 Blews St West, Charles ALBUTT M/48/Waterman )Bromsgrove,Worcester) with wife at Back of 19 Blews St West William WOODHOUSE/M/28/Labourer on Canal (Ins) ( Birmingham.Warwick) with wife 3 ch & 3 lodgers at 13 Blews St West, Henry JONES/M/45/Boatman (Portabella,Stafford) with wife & 6 ch. at Clissold St Back, William PICKET/W/73/Boat Man (Oxford,Oxford) with sister (Louiza Midwinter ) at 8 Gt W A Yard All Saints St, John ADAMSON/M/56/Boat Builder (Manchester,Lancashire) with wife & 5 ch at 127 Heath St John ENDBURY/M/33/Boatman (Smethwick,Stafford) with wife & 3 ch Regards Thelma

Janet The index in the booklet for the Cromford Canal Permits is just for the years 1841/42. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Janet's email [mailto:janet@ellisat16.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 28 February 2002 19:14 To: Jones, Helen Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] FW: Canal Look-up Thank you Helen I wonder if you know the year of this entry? Edward is the only boatman I have at the moment, but I expect he followed a family of boatmen. Regards Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jones, Helen" <Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 28 February 2002 13:57 Subject: FW: [CANAL-PEOPLE] FW: Canal Look-up > Hi Janet > > In the Cromford Canal Permits is the following > > Name, ref no, permit no, boat no > > E Jones, B46, 879,513 > E Jones, B46,1001, - > > There are other Jones'. Let me know if you want me to look at these. > > Helen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet's email [mailto:janet@ellisat16.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 26 February 2002 20:30 > To: Jones, Helen; CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] FW: Canal Look-up > > > Hello Helen > I am writing this to the list, as I saw you answering a few listers about > the records of their canal folk. I only just joined the list, so it could > be I am asking something out of your area. I am looking for any record of > Edward JONES Boatman of Hillmorton Rugby. > Regards > Janet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jones, Helen" <Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk> > To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 26 February 2002 12:48 > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] FW: Canal Look-up > > > > Hi Linda > > > > Sorry no Morters listed. > > > > Helen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JelenBrink@aol.com [mailto:JelenBrink@aol.com] > > Sent: 22 February 2002 17:55 > > To: Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk > > Subject: Canal Look-up > > > > > > Dear Helen, > > Thank you for your offer to do a look-up. Our ancestor Benjamin Morter > > lived > > away from where other Morters lived, and someone suggested he may have > been > > a > > canal worker. So that is why I am writing for a quick one-name look-up, > > please. I appreciate your offer to help. > > Thank you, > > Linda Brink > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > > Have you used Tree Tops? > > The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE > > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > Have you used Tree Tops? > The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE > http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dia I sent an email last week with the details of where to find the registers. Hope you got it. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Balloon Expedition Co, N.Z [mailto:balexped@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 04 March 2002 03:33 To: Jones, Helen Subject: RE: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes How does one finmd out any more about these people and thanks foir the lists DIA -----Original Message----- From: Jones, Helen [mailto:Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk] Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2002 03:12 To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: FW: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Hi Dianne I'll just list what Vickers there are and hopefully they will all be helpful to you. Cromford Canal Permits Name,Ref,Permit no,Boat No G Vickars, B44, 347, 1309/1461 C Vickers, B44, 2584, 1309/1460 G Vickers, B45, 2786, 1309/1460 W Vickers, B46, 567, 1309 Trent Navigation Co. Gauging Tables Name, Boat registration no, master or owner, year J Vickers, 478, master, 1811 J Vickers, 936, master, 1816 J Vickers, 937, master, 1816 J Vickers, 1749, master, 1853 J Vickers, 1750, master, 1853 J Vickers, 1750, master, 1853 S Vickers, 881, previous owner, 1815 Regards Helen -----Original Message----- From: Balloon Expedition Co, N.Z [mailto:balexped@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 21 February 2002 14:04 To: Jones, Helen Subject: RE: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Dear Helen no doubt bombarded ! I am looking for William VICKERS and at least one son James c1820 - 1870 William lived in Wharf Row Brinsley Derby- James seems to have moved about quite a bit on the Notts/Derby boarder Regards and thanks you Dianne McKee New Zealand ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== C J Genealogical Collections Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Sorry Cherie, no Pickstock or Plumb listed. Helen -----Original Message----- From: cherie.everett [mailto:cherie.everett@breathemail.net] Sent: 28 February 2002 15:33 To: Jones, Helen Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Hello Helen, If it is not too time consuming could you lookup PICKSTOCK and PLUMB, they came from Cheshire canals but might have become "lost or stolen". Thanks in anticipation. Regards - Cherie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jones, Helen <mailto:Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk> To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: FW: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Sorry Carol. No Footman or Grainger on these indexes. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Carol [mailto:camars2@cogeco.ca] Sent: 27 February 2002 13:41 To: Jones, Helen Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes Hello, Helen, I wonder if you would be able to check your booklet for the names of my canal families? They were usually found in the Gloucester, River Severn, Worcestershire areas, but may have wandered further afield, I'm sure! The names are GRAINGER and FOOTMAN. There were many in the family who were boatmen/watermen, so I would be happy to find any first names! Thanks so much, Helen. Carol camars2@cogeco.ca <mailto:camars2@cogeco.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jones, Helen" < Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk <mailto:Helen.Jones@rotherham.gov.uk> > To: < CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Indexes > Hello Listers > > Nottingham Family History Society have produced a booklet 'Boatmen, Boat > Owners and Boat Builders', Record Series Vol 104. ISBN 1872776426, > ISSN 0142-5099. > > The booklet includes: > > Trent Navigation Co Gauging Tables > Nottinghams Canal Boat Registers > Cromford Canal Permits > > These are only indexes, but list names, owner or master, number of boat and > year. > > Don't know if this booklet is still available, but you could try looking on > the above family history society's web page. Cost £3.85 but this was back > in 1996! > > If anyone would like me to see if any names are there let me know. > > Helen > > ______________________________ ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== Have you tried? C J Genealogical Collections Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections <http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections> ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571 <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237> &sourceid=1237