Hi All I have a family of LISSIMOREs. Supposedly from Gospel Oak. I have found no sign of them in regular C of E PRs etc. The father Thomas and "his" family seem to have dropped off the side of the globe. He died before 1837 so no sign of him there either. Does anyone have any idea of where a family would be registered at a nonconformist church/chapel if they were from Gospel Oak. One of his daughters described him as a boatman when she was married the second time, thats all the proof I have. He would have been born in the last decade of the 1700s I think. Obviously I don't have his marriage or the birth of his children. His wife might be an Elizabeth Moore from Amblecote. Haven't been able to find her birth either. All/any ideas very welcome.Are nonconformist records in the Staffordshire marriage List?? Regards beth in Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Prescott" <paul.prescott@tesco.net> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > Vana and Phil: > > Oldbury also had lots of nonconformist churches at this time. Surviving > registers are at Sandwell Archives. Some of them are much more informative > than CofE registers, eg Oldbury Wesleyan Methodist includes parents of those > buried, even if elderly adults! > > Paul Prescott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Lamb" <pjlamb@btinternet.com> > To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > > Vana, > > If Sarah was born in Oldbury, she could well have been baptised at > > Christ Church Oldbury. This is smack in the middle of the town. > > Have you an LDS library / research centre near to were you live? If so > > you will be able to see the filmed parish register and get a photocopy. > Have > > you picked up any info from the 1841 census, you should get a street name > in > > Oldbury from this. > > Smethwick is one of the next door parishes and a bit bigger than > > Oldbury. It has a few more churches or chapels were this marraige might > have > > taken place. If boatees then they wouldn't have strayed far from the cut > to > > get to a church. Have you been able to look at the 1871 census ? > > > > Phil in Hales Owen > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vana Fessler <vanafessler@charter.net> > > To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 03 April 2002 02:22 > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > > > > >Hello from Washington State USA, > > > > > >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD > were > > >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 > > >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and > > >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > > > > > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal > > >person. I look forward to some discovery. > > > > > >Vana Fessler > > > > > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > > Have you tried? > > C J Genealogical Collections > > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Oldbury CE baptisms have been transcribed and the transcripts are available in the Genealogical sections of the larger public libraries (e.g. I found a transcript in Bristol) But they are not in the IGI MY White and Turner ancesors were canal workers based in Oldbury in the late 18th/early 19th Centuries. Any coonections out there? Ros -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Prescott [mailto:paul.prescott@tesco.net] Sent: 11 April 2002 21:56 To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK Vana and Phil: Oldbury also had lots of nonconformist churches at this time. Surviving registers are at Sandwell Archives. Some of them are much more informative than CofE registers, eg Oldbury Wesleyan Methodist includes parents of those buried, even if elderly adults! Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Lamb" <pjlamb@btinternet.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > Vana, > If Sarah was born in Oldbury, she could well have been baptised at > Christ Church Oldbury. This is smack in the middle of the town. > Have you an LDS library / research centre near to were you live? If so > you will be able to see the filmed parish register and get a photocopy. Have > you picked up any info from the 1841 census, you should get a street name in > Oldbury from this. > Smethwick is one of the next door parishes and a bit bigger than > Oldbury. It has a few more churches or chapels were this marraige might have > taken place. If boatees then they wouldn't have strayed far from the cut to > get to a church. Have you been able to look at the 1871 census ? > > Phil in Hales Owen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vana Fessler <vanafessler@charter.net> > To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 03 April 2002 02:22 > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > >Hello from Washington State USA, > > > >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD were > >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 > >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and > >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > > > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal > >person. I look forward to some discovery. > > > >Vana Fessler > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried? > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== C J Genealogical Collections Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Vana and Phil: Oldbury also had lots of nonconformist churches at this time. Surviving registers are at Sandwell Archives. Some of them are much more informative than CofE registers, eg Oldbury Wesleyan Methodist includes parents of those buried, even if elderly adults! Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Lamb" <pjlamb@btinternet.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > Vana, > If Sarah was born in Oldbury, she could well have been baptised at > Christ Church Oldbury. This is smack in the middle of the town. > Have you an LDS library / research centre near to were you live? If so > you will be able to see the filmed parish register and get a photocopy. Have > you picked up any info from the 1841 census, you should get a street name in > Oldbury from this. > Smethwick is one of the next door parishes and a bit bigger than > Oldbury. It has a few more churches or chapels were this marraige might have > taken place. If boatees then they wouldn't have strayed far from the cut to > get to a church. Have you been able to look at the 1871 census ? > > Phil in Hales Owen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vana Fessler <vanafessler@charter.net> > To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 03 April 2002 02:22 > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > >Hello from Washington State USA, > > > >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD were > >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 > >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and > >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > > > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal > >person. I look forward to some discovery. > > > >Vana Fessler > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried? > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Phil: Jack Judge wrote Tipperary of course. My grandfather Fred KNIGHT was a drinking mate of Jack JUDGE, and my mother Vera PRESCOTT (nee KNIGHT) used to play with the JUDGE children in the 20s and 30s. My granddad always claimed to have put the second "long" in the chorus of Tipperary. Jack originally wrote the chorus as "its a l-o-o-ng way to Tipperary" and my granddad said "Jack - it'd sahnd berra if yo purra nutha lung innit" so Jack did. Paul Prescott Oldbury born and bred - now living in Scotland. PS: You still need to pass over a canal to get to Oldbury town centre. They've only filled the Oldbury town loop in. The Brindley and Telford main lines are still there, and still encircle Oldbury. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Lamb" <pjlamb@btinternet.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > Vana et al, > At one time Oldbury was entirely surrounded by water. To get in or out > of the town centre you had to pass over a canal. Now they are filled in but > the Birmingham - Wolverhampton canal still passes close by. This is one > canal but two cuts between Smethwick and Tipton. > For any locals, a good walk on a Sunday afternoon in late summer is > through the Galton Valley Smethwick, up on the one cut, and back along the > other. There is a canal Heritage Centre (in an old pub - no beer though) > some splendid bridges in stone, concrete and cast iron, (Galton Bridge, > Steward Akkydoc etc), a gauging stop, lots of locks including what are > believed to be the oldest working locks in the country. > > Jack Judge is Oldbury's most famous son - for what reason ? (Nothing to > do with canals) > > Phil in Hales Owen > > > >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD were > >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 > >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and > >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > > > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal > >person. I look forward to some discovery. > > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Vana et al, At one time Oldbury was entirely surrounded by water. To get in or out of the town centre you had to pass over a canal. Now they are filled in but the Birmingham - Wolverhampton canal still passes close by. This is one canal but two cuts between Smethwick and Tipton. For any locals, a good walk on a Sunday afternoon in late summer is through the Galton Valley Smethwick, up on the one cut, and back along the other. There is a canal Heritage Centre (in an old pub - no beer though) some splendid bridges in stone, concrete and cast iron, (Galton Bridge, Steward Akkydoc etc), a gauging stop, lots of locks including what are believed to be the oldest working locks in the country. Jack Judge is Oldbury's most famous son - for what reason ? (Nothing to do with canals) Phil in Hales Owen >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD were >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal >person. I look forward to some discovery. >

Vana, If Sarah was born in Oldbury, she could well have been baptised at Christ Church Oldbury. This is smack in the middle of the town. Have you an LDS library / research centre near to were you live? If so you will be able to see the filmed parish register and get a photocopy. Have you picked up any info from the 1841 census, you should get a street name in Oldbury from this. Smethwick is one of the next door parishes and a bit bigger than Oldbury. It has a few more churches or chapels were this marraige might have taken place. If boatees then they wouldn't have strayed far from the cut to get to a church. Have you been able to look at the 1871 census ? Phil in Hales Owen -----Original Message----- From: Vana Fessler <vanafessler@charter.net> To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 03 April 2002 02:22 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK >Hello from Washington State USA, > >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD were >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal >person. I look forward to some discovery. > >Vana Fessler

Surely these dates cannot be right, Freds daughter born when Fred was aged 5 ! Phil in Hales Owen -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weymouth <chris.weymouth@ntlworld.com> To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 10 April 2002 21:30 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] butler------help >Hi all. >Have just joined to try and find some info. for my wife,s family history as there are no relatives to ask. >So here goes, looking for Frederick Butler b, 1870-80 in Birmingham area, >his daughter Elsie May Butler(wife,s g,mother) was b.1875(approx) in Ladywood, Birm. before emigrating to London!! >Frederick was a boatman or possibly owner working the canals around Birmingham. >Can anyone place him on a census? and is there a waterways archive I can access through the net? >Many thanks for any help >Regards, >Chris Weymouth

Hi Mick, Many thanks for reply,and the help offer.. Forget all about Elsie May,s birth date it was 1915 approx in Ladywood....put it down to "ancestry searchers block"........ The rest is correct as far as we know............sorry no name known for Fredericks wife. Many thanks Chris.

Hello all I am reposting my interest as there may be new members. Edward JONES was my gggg grandfather. He married Prudence TWIGGER in 1825 in Hillmorton Rugby Warwickshire. Their daughter Mary was my ggg grandmother. I would be interested in finding out more about Edward, especially his parents. Regards Janet

Hi all. Have just joined to try and find some info. for my wife,s family history as there are no relatives to ask. So here goes, looking for Frederick Butler b, 1870-80 in Birmingham area, his daughter Elsie May Butler(wife,s g,mother) was b.1875(approx) in Ladywood, Birm. before emigrating to London!! Frederick was a boatman or possibly owner working the canals around Birmingham. Can anyone place him on a census? and is there a waterways archive I can access through the net? Many thanks for any help Regards, Chris Weymouth

----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" <Linda.Briggs1@btinternet.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:04 PM Subject: CROMFORD CANAL Hello everyone, I am new to this list and would like to post my interests: The KEY family, boatmen on the Cromford Canal, Derbyshire. If anyone has a similar interest, pleas contact me. Linda Clitheroe Linda.Briggs1@btinternet.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

Hi Folks, All the Following have the address ASTON,WARWICK. at 14 Butler St, Richard ADAMS/U/20/Boat Man (W) Bridgenorth with parents & h siblings at Court 23 No 5,Watery Lane, Elias FROGGATT/U/26/Boatman (B'ham,Warwick) with parents & 5 siblings at 1 Bridge St, Job VANN/M/29/Boatman Employing 4 Men,2 Boys,(Tipton,Stafford) with wife , 3 ch & lodger & boarder-------- Henry THURSBY/U/25/Canal Boatman (B'ham,Warwick) lodger and Francis BANKS/U/16/Canal Boatman (Barge) (B'ham Warwick) Vessel "KENNETH" ,Bridge St Lock, David PEARSON/M/54/Master Boatman (BGE) (Netherton,Worcester) with wife &--- David BRITTAIN/U/16/O Boatman (Oldbury,Warwick) Vessel "The JAMES" Worcester Bridge St Lock, John WILLIAMS/M/64/BOatman (Barge) (Worcester City) with John JENKINS/U/54/Boatman (Barge) (Bath) Vessel "SOLOMON TOLLEY" Bridge St Lock, Solomon TOLLEY/M/29/Boatman (Brierley Hill) with wife & 2 ch at 9 Court,Lawley St No 4, John LEEK/M/36/ Gen Boatman (Brge) with wife & 2 ch. at 2 Ct,15 Holt St, James BOUCHER/M/68/Gen Boatman (Barge) with wife & G.Dau at 2 Bk 101 Holt St, John DAVIS/U/28/Boat Emptier (I N S) (N.K.) boarder with John Jones & family at 4 Holt St. Thomas FRANCIS/W/68/Wharfinger (Aston,Warwick) with 2 daus & sister (Cook) at 179 Dartmouth St, John INGRAM/U/18/Lab on Lime Wharf (B'ham,Warwick) boarder with Charles Eades & family at 1 Back 153 Gr Brook St, Samuel JACKSON/M/49/Laborer at Coal Wharf (Aston,Warwick) with wife & son at 2 Ct,7 Ho,Wharf St, William GUY/M/57/Boatman (Sedgley,Stafford) with wife 2 stepsons & Gd,Dau,incl-- James BROOKS/U/22/Boatman ( Birmingham,Warwick) stepson and Joseph BROOKS/U/20/Boatman (Bge) (Aston,Warwick) stepson at Back of No 7,Heneage St, Joshua WILSON/M/32/Wharfinger (Chedworth,Gloucester) with wife & Mother at 95 Henry St, John MORRIS/M/36/Canal Cos Porter (INS) (Hampton Evesham,Worcester) with wife & 4 ch & lodger at 14 Ct, 2 H,Windsor St William GUY/M/40/Noatman Barger (B'ham .Warwick) with wife at 90 Inkerman St William HUNT/U/24/Boatman our of Employ (Oxford) boarder with Ann Hartlund.W at Woodcock St,4 House, 4 Court John LEE/M/36/Steerer (Stratford on Avon) with wife & 4 daus at 47 Aston RD, Ralph HIGGINS/M/64/Boat Steerer (Barge) (Oxford,Oxford) with wife & 2 daus Regards Thelma

----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Berry" <les@berry115.fsnet.co.uk> To: <canal-people-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: Subscribe My great grandfather,Thomas Berry was lock keeper at the time of his son's birth in 1866. This is confirmed by his son's Birth Certificate. The family were living at Lock House, New Brentford, Middlesex. I believe that he worked at Teddington Lock. His young son, Alfred Berry is believed to have drowned in the Lock. Any further information would be welcome. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.344 / Virus Database: 191 - Release Date: 2002-02-Apr

Hi Folks, The following all have the address ASTON, WARWICK. at 5 Back of 201 Bolton Rd. Samuel HARDEN/M/36/Boatman (Bilston,Stafford) with wife at 6 Back of 201 Bolton Rd, Charles ELKINS//29/Boat Man (N.K.Warwick) with wife & 3 sons st 1/136 Bordesley Park Road. Elijah CLARK/M/29 ? Labourer by Canal Irrigation Serv (tanton,Bedford) with wife & 2 sons at 112 Bordesley Park Road Joseph ROWLEY/M/38/oat Builders (Stourport,Worcester) with wife & 4 ch at 46 Parliament St, William.S.DIXON/M/40/Boat Builder Salford,Lancashire) with wife & 7 ch. at 40 Garrison St, S arah.A.SMITH/M/21/Boat Woman (Droitwich,Worcester) with son & mather/in/law at 37 Lower Dartmouth St, James BROWN/U/40/Boatman (W) (Oxford,Oxford) boarder with Harman Family at 35 Witton Street, Thomas WHITEHOUSE/M/41/oatman (W) Wednesbury,Stafford) with wife 5 ch at 206 St.Andrews d, Benjamin ORAM/M/54/Fly Inspector (Sheepshed,Leicester) with wife 3 ch & sister (Wall) at Watery Lane,Court 6, No 5 Thomas KNIGHT/M/50/Boatman (W) (Banbury,Oxford) with wife & 4 ch incl-- Timothy KNIGHT/U/19 Boatman (Bambury,Oxford) and Harry KNIGHT/15/Boatman's Assistant (Banbury,Oxford) at Court 25,No 1,Watery Lane, Harry SMITH/M/25/Boatman (W) (B'ham, Warwick) with wife & 2 daus at No 12 Wesley St James GARDNER/M/38/Labourer on Coak Wharf (Banbury,Oxford) wirh wife & 5 ch at 9,Alexander Place,Westley St,. Robert BUSTIN/M/27/Boatman (W)(Oxford) with wife & 2 ch at Bo 22 Court !,Westley Street, William BULTON /M/45/Boatman (W) (Oxford) with wife 3 ch at eorge VANN//33/Boatman (W) (B'ham Warwick) with wife, 4 ch Father/in law,W and 2 daus/in law at No 2 Free Dwelling, Joseph SMITH/M/52/Boat Man (W) with wife & dau at No 3 Free Dwelling, James KNIGHT/M/24/Boat Man (W) (Banbury,Oxford) with wife, son & lodger ? at 6 Bk,61 Kelynge St, John BODEN/M/62/Boatman (Wolverley,Worcester) with wife & dau. at 2 Holly Place,Cottell Rd, David BERRINGTON/M/58/Labourer on Coal Wharf (Derby,) with wife & 4 ch at 1 Brighton Terr, Alfred FRIEND/M?23/Boatman (W) (Presanton Brook.Lancashire) with wife & son at Turweston lacem Litt;e Green Lane, John MC PHEARSON/M/54/Waterman( OLdbury,Stafford) with wife & 2 sons incl-- John MC PHEARSON/U/22/Waterman (TIpton,Stafford) son at 53 Muntz St, George JONES/M/37/Master Boat Steerer (Kidderminster,Worcester) with wife , 5 ch & serv, at 1 Court,Lawley St, Benjamin John HOOD/M/22/Boatman (Barge) (B'ham,Warwick) with wife & adopted son ? (Walton) Regards Thelma

Dear Listers If any of you have any information about the following family of canal people I would be delighted to hear from you. My great, great grandparents were WILLIAM HODGKINS AND SARAH (nee DOVEY) and their six children who survived to adulthood, Clara, Riley, Esther, Agnes, Ellen and Rosina. Four other children died in infancy. I have William and Sarah on the 1871 Census at Hazelhurst Lock, Longton with two children Clara and Riley (although their surname is given as Hopkins). On the same boat is JOSEPH EASTHORPE (a servant) aged 10 years, born at Dudley. Is this of help to anyone? There are two more boats on the page I have - one shows a family called DUNKLEY, the other showing Edward FISHER (aged 18) born Newcastle, Staffs. George PHILPOTS (this is very poor and could be Philips or Philkins or something else beginning with Phil…..) aged 13 born Oldbury and William GIBSON aged 20 born Stone. Hoping these names may be of help to someone. I have my Hodgkins on the 1881 Census at Fradley Junction and another boat there with James and John MOOR (father and son aged 55 and 25 respectively) and James GRIFFIN (grandson, aged 9) I would like to find William Hodgkins and Sarah Dovey on the 1861 Census before they were married and also on the 1891 and 1901 Censusus. Other names connected to this family are BRANSON, FAIRCLOUGH, WARD, KENDERDINE, BROAD, RUSH If anyone could help I would be very grateful Sue Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Hi Folks, I'm back again, having dealt with visitors and been away. Four days solid rain in Vienna, didn't go down too well, but I enjoyed what I did. to continue-- all addresses are at ASTON,WARWICK. at 3 Back of 24 Miles St, John HOLLIS/M/42/Boatman on Canal (Northampton,Northampton) with wife & dau at 12 Back of 24 Miles St, Charles EADON/M/40/Canal Boatman (Napton on the Hill,Nr.Southam) with wife, 6 ch & Lodger---John TIMMS/U/19/Canal Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick at Miles St,Spring Vale,Bacxk of 59 (1 Court) Thomas MOORE/10 Boatman's Lad on Canal (Birmingham,Warwick with parents, bro & Lodger & his family.(Neal) at Miles St,6 Back of 59 Spring Vale No 4 Ter, Ephraim WILKINS/M/33/Canal Boatman ( Fenny Compton,Warwick) with wife & 3 ch at Back 13 Highgate Wharf, Matthew STOKER/M/48.Labourer on Coal Wharf (Stoke Priors,Worcester) with wife & dau. at Corporation Wharf, Charles.J.CLIFFORD/Corpn Wharf Manager (Souldern,Oxford) with wife & 6 ch at 1 In 2 Court,Sandy Lane, James HALL/M/33/Boatman, employing 1 oy( Kingswinford,Worcester) with wife 2 sons, Aunt,boarder & serv---James HATTON/13/Boatmans' Assistant (B'ham,Warwick) at 23 Sandy Lane, Joseph HAMPTON/U/42/Boatman (W) (Greet,Warwick) boarder with Edwin Minns at 49 Sandy Lane, James STEVENSON/M/38/Boatman (W) (B'ham,Warwick) with wife & dau at 5 Newport Ter,Bedford Ambrose RAYSON/M/40/Boatman (W) (Foleshiull,Warwick) with wife & 5 ch at 72 High Street, Henry BERRY/W/78/Boatman (Aston,Warwick)_ boarder with Samuel Woodley at 1 Bk,72 high St (Bk Brittania) Samuel READING/M/40/Boatman (Stratford,Warwick) with wife 2 ch & 3 boarders at 12 House,18 Court,Watery Lane, Charles ROBINSON/M/27/Boatman (Tipton,Stafford) with wife, sin & Lodger---- William BRIAN/U/21/Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick) lodger at Bowery St, John Prosser/M/58/M.S.Canal Lock Keeper (Dodnod,Worcester) with wife 3 ch & boarder (Boaz) at 8 Malvern Ter,Henley St, Richd.BEALE/M/42/Carter (on Coal Wharf) (Alderminster,Worcester)with bro/in/law & sis /in/law (Wagstaff) at 18 Sampson Road, William H.GOODYEAR/M/39/Boat Builder (Master) (Chadsley,Worcester) with wife, & 6 ch at Court 2 ,Ho 3,South Rd, Charles LITTLEFIELD/M/33/Canal Constable (INS) (Twyford,Hanpshire) with wife & dau at Court 9.Hse 1,South Rd, John ARCHER/M/30/Boat Builder (Banbury,Oxford) with wife & son at 25 South Rd, Henry GUEST/M/48/Boatman (Kiddermimster,Worcester) with wife, dau & boarder--- John DAVIES/U/20/Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick) boarder at 23 South Rd, Joshua GILL/W/51/Boatman (W.Bromwich,Stafford) with 3 daus at 21 White Road, William WEBB/M/30/Boat Builder (B'ham,Warwick) with dau, both boiarders with Joseph.M.Cooper & family at 21 Turner St, John.E.SMITH/M/38/Clerk (Coal Wharf) (Cromhall,Gloucester) with wife at 11 Augusta Pl,3 King St, Benjamin HODGES/M/59/Labourer (Coal Wharf) with wife & 6 ch incl--- Charles HODGES/15/Labourer (Coal Whard) son at 11 King St, John CLEMENTS/M/26/Labourer (Coal Wharf) (Alcester,Warwick) with wife , 2 daus & boarder at 30 Main Street. Thomas HAYES/U/27/Clerk to Canal Co.(Birmm,Warwick) boarder with Ann Dewsbury,W. at 5 Back of 198 Bolton Rd, Thomas EDKINS/M/34/Boatman (Lapworth,Warwick) with wife & 3 ch incl Samuel EDKINS/15/Boat Boy (Rowington,Warwick) son I now have to find some more. Regards Thelma

Thought this may interest you All the best John Carrington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug King" <daphndoug@ic24.net> To: <john_carrington@LineOne.net> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: FW: 1901 Census - info > > > Hello Margaret and John, > > I received this e-mail this morning from friend Pat O'brien - attached. > > .............................................................. > > > An interesting item posted on the Society of Genealogists List: > > > > When I pointed out to my MP that some of the 1901 census transcription > had been done by people on the Indian sub-continent, who did not have > English as a mother tongue and who had no experience of English place > names, occupations and personal names, he was frankly incredulous. I > suggested he put a parliamentary question on this. Here it is with the > reply... > > DL: "To ask the Parliamentary Secretary, Lord Chancellor's Department, > how much of the work to transcribe the 1901 census returns on to > computer was carried on outside the United Kingdom; and if she will make > a statement." > > Ms. Rosie Winterton (PS, Lord Chancellor's Dept):" QinetiQ Ltd appointed > Enterprise and Supply Services (ESS) to undertake the transcription of > the data from the 1901 Census returns. A proportion of this work was > sub-contracted by ESS after full competitive tendering to a commercial > data input company based in India and Sri Lanka (Hays Document > Management). The proportion of transcription work undertaken outside the > United Kingdom was 78%" > > Yes folks that really is seventy eight percent! > > Please feel free to post this message elsewhere if you want. > -- > Barney Tyrwhitt-Drake > > This came to me via a Hants list lister. Feel it is of interest > to all of us. > > lionhouse@supanet.com > > > ==== DEVON Mailing List ==== > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > (http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/DEV/) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/) > > > > ==== GSV Mailing List ==== > GSV ON-LINE LIBRARY CATALOGUE: You can access it on our web page at > www.gsv.org.au > > .................................................... > > Daph >

Advice sought to break through my brick wall. I am trying to find the baptism and parents of Joseph KIRK, my g-g-grandfather. He married Mary TONKS in October 1811 in St. Peter's Wolverhampton, and all their children were also baptised there. The 1851 & 1861 censuses give his birthplace as Wolverhampton, as does his death certificate. He was a boatman, as was his son Richard (1818-1883). I have found invoices with Richard's name as Steerer for the Bridgwater Trustees Carrying Co. in 1850 (Ellesmere Port Boat Museum), and I guess that Joseph would also have worked on the Staffs & Worcs / Trent & Mersey canals. All the family lived in Wolverhampton throughout their lives (mostly Horseley Fields), though Joseph was not at home in Cannock Road for the 1841 census. My hunch is that Joseph's parents came to Wolverhampton with the canal as it was built. There are very few Kirks in Wolverhampton prior to 1800, and the nearest possible baptism of a Joseph KIRK is at Sandon in 1786 (Sandon is just north of the junction of the Staffs&Worcs / Trent& Mersey). I have yet to find anyone else researching anyone related to my families!! Joseph and Mary's children (+spouses) (in case anyone spots a rellie!!): Mary (1814-1837); Jeremiah (1816-1843); Richard (1818-1883) = Caroline Downes; Ann (1820-?) = John Beeton; Caroline (1823-?) = Thomas Taylor; Hannah (1825-?) = Charles Hames; Harriett (1828-?) = Joseph Clark; Matilda (1832-?). Those with more experience may be able to point me in a direction I haven't thought of yet! TIA, Alan Kirk, Bedford U.K. Am posting this to Canal People, Black Country and Staffs lists. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Hello from Washington State USA, I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD were boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. 1841 at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and immigrated to US abt. 1872. I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal person. I look forward to some discovery. Vana Fessler vanafessler@charter.net

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