Sylvia, I have already been in touch with Dawn, who posted the message originally to the Banbury list. She gave me some memories of 'Jack' Grantham, who was Amos's father. Jack was in fact John George Grantham, my Grandfather's brother. I met him once when I was a boy in the late 60's, so he must have been in his 80's as he was christened in 1881 (and still on his barge). Amos was actually christened Isaac Amos in Banbury on 14-11-1911. Jack apparently worked the section of the Oxford Canal from Aynho (Northants) to Coventry with loads of coal. I would love to get some information on this side of the family tree, especially any descendants of Amos, and perhaps Jack himself, as both my grandparents are no longer with us, so it's difficult to get information! I would estimate that there must be Grantham's from the canal boats around the midlands, who settled in places near to the canal routes they were taking. I know there are some around Hawkesbury Junction near to Coventry, who I'd never considered as possible relatives, despite being born in Coventry myself, and living there until 1996. It wasn't until moving to Bicester in Oxon. that I started my research, my paternal Grandparents being originally from Banbury, I found lots of Grantham relatives in and around Lower Heyford and, where their tradition on the Canals started, when they built the coal trading wharf there in the early 1800's. It still stands today, the last of several in LH. I spoke with the current owners (pleasure boats) who told me it was named 'Grantham's Wharf' when they bought it. So, if you can put me in touch with any Grantham's from these lines I'd be delighted. Best wishes (and crossed fingers!) Neil. Neil Grantham Bicester, Oxfordshire Researching the names Grantham and Skuce in Oxfordshire and beyond. > This should have been sent to Dawn or the list. Forwarding! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Erspolly@aol.com> > To: <list.owner@virgin.net> > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Fw: canal foks > > > Hi Dawn > I read your message about the Oxford Canal, very interesting. My > grandfather > WILLIAM GARRETT and his parents before him also worked the Oxford > canl from > Banbury where they wer based in Factory Street. > > My Great grandmother's name was GIBBONS so maybe Joey was a relative. > I think AMOS GRANTHAM is the person that my cousin CALARA LAPWORTH was > married to . The LAPWORTHS come from Nuneaton and several of them > worked on > the canal. > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has any information on either > family mentioned. > > Sylvia > Solihull > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. > Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr > > ______________________________

This should have been sent to Dawn or the list. Forwarding! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Erspolly@aol.com> To: <list.owner@virgin.net> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Fw: canal foks Hi Dawn I read your message about the Oxford Canal, very interesting. My grandfather WILLIAM GARRETT and his parents before him also worked the Oxford canl from Banbury where they wer based in Factory Street. My Great grandmother's name was GIBBONS so maybe Joey was a relative. I think AMOS GRANTHAM is the person that my cousin CALARA LAPWORTH was married to . The LAPWORTHS come from Nuneaton and several of them worked on the canal. I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has any information on either family mentioned. Sylvia Solihull --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

>I wonder if anyone has any stories or info. on the Rochdale Canal at Walsden >and Todmorden.Linda Linda.Briggs1@btinternet.com Linda there is a Eng-Todmorden Mailing list. Eng-Todmorden-L-request@rootsweb.com to join the list. Hope that helps Regards Julie Goucher, List Owner Anglers Rest Indexes http://freespace.virgin.net/ar.indexes Anglers Rest Home Page http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/Index.htm C J http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections C J Genealogy http://www.dreamwater.net/genealogy/Index.htm FreeCEN Surrey 1891 http://www.dreamwater.net/anglersrest/freecen.htm Fax & Voice Mail (+44) 0870 130 5474 One Name Study ORLANDO GOONS Registered --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

Hello everyone, I wonder if anyone has any stories or info. on the Rochdale Canal at Walsden and Todmorden. I have no boat people in that area but many of my ancestors were Mill owners in Waldsen and would have used the canal to transport cotton from Manchester and then transport the finished goods to various places on the canal. Linda Linda.Briggs1@btinternet.com

Janet, Regarding your connection with the BAINES family. My great grandfather was Aquila NEEDHAM. In the 1881 census he was listed as occupation: Captain of a barge age 34. Aquila died from pneumonia after falling off the barge into the Lancaster canal one Winter about 1884 two months before my grandmother Ann NEEDHAM was born. According to my father, Ann eventually took control of the barge business and had about seven barges which she eventually let her 'Cousin' take over by the name of Baines. I have only found one reference to a Baines that could be related - - VRI (FHL No. 1278808) - a William WALMSLEY married Margaret BAINES 20 May 1854, recorded in St Mary, Blackburn, Lancashire. Unfortunately, neither the husband nor wife's father is recorded. Hannah WALMSLEY was Ann's mother. My father reckoned that Ann was the first woman to take a canal barge through the Glasson dock from the Preston to Lancaster Canal through to the Leeds and Liverpool Canal. Aquila's parents were Robert NEEDHAM, boatman and Mary, they had three children, Aquila b. c. 1850, Samuel b. c. 1854 and Mary b. c. 1863. and that is all that I know about my NEEDHAM family. The Walmsley's were coal dealers. Any information that you may have regarding the Needham's and their connection with the Baines's would be much appreciated. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JRigby1046@aol.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] 1901 census Lancaster canal families > My final postings on the 1901 census (at least until it comes on line!) are > the Baines family. They were the main boat owners on the Lancaster canal > until 1944 and my family the Ashcrofts crewed their boats and bought some > from them after that date. > > Canal boat Kate 1901 > > Thomas Baines aged 23 from Preston. > Wife Ann aged 20 and daughter Mary aged 9 months all from Preston. > > I have a list of the names of boats that they owned and again would welcome > any connections for although they are not my ancestors, I am researching all > the families that worked on the above canal for a book on canal life. > > Janet Rigby > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn.MikeGriffis" <Dawn.MikeGriffis@VALLEY.NET> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: canal foks (forwarded from Dawn.MikeGriffis) (forwarded from Dawn.MikeGriffis) I was told you might be interested in this, I have a few additional stories on these people if anyone is interested. In case it doesn't come through my e-mail is Dawn .Mik To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L-request@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi All, Bob I tried to send this to everyone using the Banbury = area address it wouldn't go through maybe because I live in the = backwoods of New England could you please send it on for me. Dawn Here are the names I have as written by a Bernard Bowerman sadly = now long dead. He was born / lived / and worked around Oxford Canal = all his life.=20 These are of people who came through Aynho Wharf between 1910 to = 1920 on the Oxford Canal. Most families worked a pair of boats. The most numerous families = were the Granthams, there was John, Jack, Louise, Will, Joe and = Jim.=20 The Coles family was Joe, Tom, & his son Tom.=20 Joe Skinner, Amos & Jack. Joe Beauchamp, Jack Wilson, Tommy = Duckett, Joey Clark. Mrs Edwards who was deaf & dumb worked 1 boat = with her son, they used sign language all the time. Joey Gibbons = died in Aynho Wharf from the flu in 1917. Then there was a Alf = Hone. =20 Companies that ran boats were: Cannon & Clapperton ran 2 pairs to their paper mill at Sandford on = the Thames. Pratt and Haynes coal merchants of Bletchington had a = pair. Shipton Cement Co had 2 single boats they were in white & = blue colours. Hartshill stone quarries had several pairs & some = single boats bringing 4 & 6 inch granite stones for the roads. Jack Grantham brought coal to Aynho from the Coventry pits his = children were Joe, Doris, Reg & Amos. Thats all of the names that I have, I listed the companies because = most of them are also family names. I hope this is a help to = someone Dawn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

Dear Listers, I would be very grateful for any help with finding Henry Whitfield m Sarah possibly Lester. I have the names of three children one baptised 1829 Sankey Bridges, two on the vital records index 1821 & 1823 at Farnworth near Prescot. Fathers occupation listed as Flatman. There is at least one other child I have not yet been able to locate. Is there a web site dedicated to Canal people or something simular? Best wishes to all June Western Australia June howlett@wn.com.au

----- Original Message ----- From: <SGBLAY@aol.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Owen Family Is there anyone out there researching the Owen family? On 1881 census at Hillingdon, Grand Junction on boat ''Pilot'' as follows; Joseph head/master tonnage b Aylesbury Sarah wife b Harefield Hannah b Eastwood Emma b Stoke hammond Thomas b Berkhampstead James b Hampstead John b Paddington Three of the children were baptised at Berkhampstead. Was there a tradition of having a 'home' church where baptisms and marriages etc were held, regardless of where on the canal they had been born? Shirley Barnes --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr

Trying again - previous attempt to post this was apparently lost in a black hole! Wondering if anyone can help with this puzzle. The 1881 census CD shows a John Marchant, age 75, unemployed boatman, living at Harp Inn Yard in Wolverhampton with his wife Mary Ann, age 53, whose birthplace is given as Raiton, Staffs. Also two children, Isaac, 30 (a boatman) and Selina, 27, both born in Woodside, Worcs and a third Mary, 13, born in Wolverhampton. John's birthplace is given as Hemsey, Worcs which I believe to be a misreading of Kempsey, which is where John, the older brother of my GG grandfather, Frederick Marchant was born at the right date. It would also perhaps indicate that the other birthplaces were mis-transcribed. Any suggestions where they might be? I understand there was an area of Dudley called Waterside close to St Thomas, where I have found a possible record of Isaac's christening in 1851. There is also a possible marriage for John and Mary Anne there in 1846. "Raiton" has me completely beaten. If John is who I think, it might explain why he and his brother are the only Marchant / Merchant records I could find in Kempsey, 8 years apart - their father may well have been a boatman as well and children would presumably have been born wherever the family happened to be. Any ideas, suggestions, flashes of inspiration, (or even definitive answers!!) welcome Howard

My final postings on the 1901 census (at least until it comes on line!) are the Baines family. They were the main boat owners on the Lancaster canal until 1944 and my family the Ashcrofts crewed their boats and bought some from them after that date. Canal boat Kate 1901 Thomas Baines aged 23 from Preston. Wife Ann aged 20 and daughter Mary aged 9 months all from Preston. I have a list of the names of boats that they owned and again would welcome any connections for although they are not my ancestors, I am researching all the families that worked on the above canal for a book on canal life. Janet Rigby

Further to my previous postings of families on the 1901 census I now post details of my main family interest the Ashcrofts who worked the canals for a long time. I have been researching the family for some time and again would welcome any connections. Canal boat May at Preston basin Joseph Ashcroft aged 48 Wife Lucy (nee Jenkinson) aged 49 Sons Charles aged 15 James aged 11 all born Preston. Canal boat Lancaster at Preston Daniel aged 22 wife Alice aged 21 all from Preston Son John aged 11 months Janet Rigby

Here are some more canal boat families on the 1901 census in which I have an interest for a book I am writing. Any information on these families which sometimes appear on other censuses gratefully received! Canal boat ELIZABETH at Preston William ROBINSON aged 23, his wife Leah aged 19, daughter Margaret aged 1 and Daniel Wignall aged 13 servant all born Preston. Canal boat FANNY at Preston Charles VICKERS aged 47 born Preston with Winifred Kelly a servant aged 30 and a baby aged 1 also called Winifred Kelly! Thomas Iddon aged 22 a servant born Ulverston. Canal boat RICHARD More VICKERS! at Canal St Wharf, Preston. Joseph Vickers aged 38, his wife Julia aged 34, daughters, Hannah aged 4, Mary aged 2, and Elizabeth aged 1. Son James aged 14, all born Preston. Also thought to have had a house at 27 Canal St. Preston. Vickers family appear on earlier censuses. Canal boat JOSEPH John BONNEY aged 44 and his wife Mary aged 30. Son John aged 10 months and John Woods aged 42 servant and widower all born Preston. Canal boat SARAH at Preston. Richard PARKINSON aged 36, his wife Dorothy aged 33, son Thomas L aged 12 and son Richard aged 3 all born Preston. Canal boat VENTURE at Preston. Richard FAZACKERLEY aged 26 his wife Margaret aged 25 and son Richard aged 2 all from Preston. Canal boat unnamed at Winmarleigh James HAMPTON aged 38, his wife Ann aged 32 daughter Jane aged 15, all born Preston, son Joseph aged 2 born Glasson. Discharger John Wilding aged 28 from Glasson. Hampton family appear on earlier censuses. Canal boat unnamed at south basin, Preston Joseph HUNT aged 19 born Lancaster. Families previously posted on 1901 census were NEWBY, HAMPTON, VICKERS. Details of two more families to come the ASHCROFTS and BAINES. Janet Rigby

Dear Janet Thank you for your efforts The previous VICKERS mentioned do not appear to have that email/census info Is it possible for you to forward again Thank you thank you DIanne New Zealand VICKERS: Greasley,Hucknall,Codnor Park, Bulwell, Mansfield Woodhouse, RICHARDSON MITCHELL HASLAM HENSHAW ASKEW -----Original Message----- From: JRigby1046@aol.com [mailto:JRigby1046@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2002 23:30 To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] 1901 census BOAT PEOPLE PRESTON - LANCASTER CANAL Here are some more canal boat families on the 1901 census in which I have an interest for a book I am writing. Any information on these families which sometimes appear on other censuses gratefully received! Canal boat ELIZABETH at Preston William ROBINSON aged 23, his wife Leah aged 19, daughter Margaret aged 1 and Daniel Wignall aged 13 servant all born Preston. Canal boat FANNY at Preston Charles VICKERS aged 47 born Preston with Winifred Kelly a servant aged 30 and a baby aged 1 also called Winifred Kelly! Thomas Iddon aged 22 a servant born Ulverston. Canal boat RICHARD More VICKERS! at Canal St Wharf, Preston. Joseph Vickers aged 38, his wife Julia aged 34, daughters, Hannah aged 4, Mary aged 2, and Elizabeth aged 1. Son James aged 14, all born Preston. Also thought to have had a house at 27 Canal St. Preston. Vickers family appear on earlier censuses. Canal boat JOSEPH John BONNEY aged 44 and his wife Mary aged 30. Son John aged 10 months and John Woods aged 42 servant and widower all born Preston. Canal boat SARAH at Preston. Richard PARKINSON aged 36, his wife Dorothy aged 33, son Thomas L aged 12 and son Richard aged 3 all born Preston. Canal boat VENTURE at Preston. Richard FAZACKERLEY aged 26 his wife Margaret aged 25 and son Richard aged 2 all from Preston. Canal boat unnamed at Winmarleigh James HAMPTON aged 38, his wife Ann aged 32 daughter Jane aged 15, all born Preston, son Joseph aged 2 born Glasson. Discharger John Wilding aged 28 from Glasson. Hampton family appear on earlier censuses. Canal boat unnamed at south basin, Preston Joseph HUNT aged 19 born Lancaster. Families previously posted on 1901 census were NEWBY, HAMPTON, VICKERS. Details of two more families to come the ASHCROFTS and BAINES. Janet Rigby ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== Have you used Tree Tops? The Free FAMILY TREE & WE'LL MEET AGAIN SERVICE http://freespace.virgin.net/tree.tops ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Looking for information on Francis or John Montague. Francis was a locktender and John was a boatman this was in 1895. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank You, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hello all, Just to add to the recent theme of baptisms & marriages. Holy Trinity Church in West Bromwich has a lot of entries for canal people. Pauline Hale.

The local history section at Sandwell Library should be able to help you They can be contacted on archives.service@sandwell.gov.uk I have found them immensely helpful All the best John Carrington ----- Original Message ----- From: "beth wearing" <bethwearing@rogers.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] > Re My LISSIMOREs. I have just read that there are a lot of nonconformist > churches at Oldbury. Where is Oldbury compared to Gospel Oak, could there be > a connection?. Would it be worth writing to Sandwell, as I gather the > records have not been filmed or is there someone on the list who would be > going to a library where there is a copy of the transcripts.?? > > Regards > beth in Toronto > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have extracted details of canal families both at Preston basin or places on the Lancaster canal for research on a book I am hoping to compile on life on the Lancaster canal on all available censuses. Here are some families on the 1901 census in the hope that someone is researching these names which in a lot of cases I have found the same families appearing on the earlier censuses. I have connected the families where possible by looking at the IGI but obviously cannot get details on them all. Any information gratefully received! I'll now list the first ones, the rest will follow later. (All 1901) Canal boat ALICE at Preston Daniel Newby aged 25, Master of Canal Boat born Preston Mary E Newby his wife aged 26 born Preston Son Thomas aged 3 born Preston Daughter Elizabeth aged 2 born Preston Daughter Florence aged 3 born Preston Servant William Bramwell aged 21 born Preston Canal boat FLORENCE in Canal St. Wharf, Preston Thomas Newby aged 48 Master of boat born Preston Dorothy Newby aged 46, wife born Preston (believed to have been Dorothy Hardman of another boat family) Canal boat Belle in Preston William Grey aged 23, Master of boat born St Helens Ann Grey, aged 24 wife, born Preston Ellen Grey 1 daughter born Preston Elizabeth Grey daughter aged 9 months born Preston Canal boat CLARA in Yealand Conyers James Hampton aged 29 Master of boat born Preston Margaret A Hampton aged 29 wife born Liverpool James Hampton son aged 4 born Preston Benjamin Hampton son aged 2 born Lancaster (This family appears on other censuses) Janet Rigby

Hi Folks, sorry but we ar still in Aston, so all the following have ASTON,WARWICK followin the addess. at Court 11,House 3,Holt St, Edward WOOLEY/ U/28/Boat Builder (Birmm,Warwick) with Parents & sister at Court 3 ,House 2, Love Lane, George HANSON//30/Boatman (Barge) (B'ham,Warwick) with parents at Court 5,House 1,Love Lane Frederick MOSS/M/34/(B'ham,Warwick) with wife 3 ch & sis/in law,lodger & child) at No 3 Court,2 Dartmouth St, John HART/M/31/Barge Boatman (Birmm,Warwick) with wife & dau at Court 11 No 9. John MOSS/M/38/Boat Stearer (Birmingham,Warwick) with wife & 7 ch incl--- John MOSS/U/17/Boat Stearer (Birmingham, Warwick son at Bewery Street 2, James SWINDLE/M/26/Boatman (Barge) (B'ham, Warwick) with wife & 3 ch at 7 Richard Street. James HADLEY/M/47/Barge Boarman with wife,4 ch son/in/law & gd ch (Bowyer) at 1 Ct,4 House,Richard Street William DOVEY/U/17/Barge Boatman (Brierley Hill,Stafford) with parents & 4 siblings at 13 Richard Street, Henry SHUTER/M/36/Steerer (Barge) (Birmingham) with wife 7 ch. at 23 Richard Street, John CARTWRIGHT/U/27/Barge Boatman (Northampton) with Mother.W.& 7 siblings at 24 & 25 Richard Street. Thomas MACK/U/20/Barge Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick)lodger with Sarah Partridge, also Elizabeth BEASLEY/M/24/Wife of Barge Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick) with her 3 daus. at 60 Richard Street, Samuel BARTON/U/28/Barge Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick) lodger with wife & 3 ch.with Millwood family at 66 Richard Street, James SHUTER/M/60/Steerer (Birmingham,Wartwick) with wife & dau at 42 Adams Street Daniel Willm.PARTRIDGE/M/28./Boatman Barge(Birmingham,Barge) with wife & dau at 44 Adams Street, Thomas GOUGH/M/22/Boatman Barge (Birmingham,arwick) with wife, dau & lodger at 2 Cr,1 Gt Lister St, Henry BENNETT/M/21/Steersman (Birmingham,Warwick) with wife,son & visitor at 2 Ct,2 Ho,Gt Lister St, Thomas SHELFORD/M/44/Boatman (Barge) with wife & 2 sons at 18 Ct,7 H,Pritchett Street Thomas RIGBY/M/25/Boatman (Aston,Warwick) with wife & 2 ch at 18 Ct, 9 H,Pritchet Street, William LEESON/M/55/Boatman's abourer (Barge with wife & 3 ch, incl---- Edwib LEESON/U/26/Boatman's Labourer (Barge) son and CHarles Robert LEESON/U/24/Boat Steerer (Birmingham,Warwick) son at 14 Court,2 House,Pritchett St, Peter FOSTER/U/19/Boatman (W) (Birmingham,Warwick) with mothr. & siblings incl Thomas FOSTER/U/19/BOatman (W) (Birmingham,Warwick) at 15 Court ,2 H,Pritchet Street Frederick WHITING/M/37/Boat Unloader(...) (Birmingham Warwick) with wife 6 ch Regards Thelma

Beth: Nonconformist registers prior to 1837 had to be surrendered to the state, and have been lodged in the Public Record Office. Some churches (particularly Catholic, I believe?) refused and others eg Quakers made detailed copies. A very few just managed to ignore the order. But the very great bulk were surrendered, and are now found in series RG4 at the PRO, Kew. They have generally been filmed by LDS and are in the IGI. Post 1837 registers are generally with the county record office. They are usually available in microform (fiche or film) although that doesn't necessarily mean LDS have copies. Good hunting Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "beth wearing" <bethwearing@rogers.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:51 AM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Nonconformist churches > Hi All > > I have a family of LISSIMOREs. Supposedly from Gospel Oak. I have found no > sign of them in regular C of E PRs etc. The father Thomas and "his" family > seem to have dropped off the side of the globe. He died before 1837 so no > sign of him there either. Does anyone have any idea of where a family would > be registered at a nonconformist church/chapel if they were from Gospel Oak. > One of his daughters described him as a boatman when she was married the > second time, thats all the proof I have. He would have been born in the last > decade of the 1700s I think. > Obviously I don't have his marriage or the birth of his children. His wife > might be an Elizabeth Moore from Amblecote. Haven't been able to find her > birth either. > > All/any ideas very welcome.Are nonconformist records in the Staffordshire > marriage List?? > > Regards > beth in Toronto > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Catherine Prescott" <paul.prescott@tesco.net> > To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:56 PM > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > > Vana and Phil: > > > > Oldbury also had lots of nonconformist churches at this time. Surviving > > registers are at Sandwell Archives. Some of them are much more > informative > > than CofE registers, eg Oldbury Wesleyan Methodist includes parents of > those > > buried, even if elderly adults! > > > > Paul Prescott > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Lamb" <pjlamb@btinternet.com> > > To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > > > > > Vana, > > > If Sarah was born in Oldbury, she could well have been baptised at > > > Christ Church Oldbury. This is smack in the middle of the town. > > > Have you an LDS library / research centre near to were you live? If > so > > > you will be able to see the filmed parish register and get a photocopy. > > Have > > > you picked up any info from the 1841 census, you should get a street > name > > in > > > Oldbury from this. > > > Smethwick is one of the next door parishes and a bit bigger than > > > Oldbury. It has a few more churches or chapels were this marraige might > > have > > > taken place. If boatees then they wouldn't have strayed far from the cut > > to > > > get to a church. Have you been able to look at the 1871 census ? > > > > > > Phil in Hales Owen > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vana Fessler <vanafessler@charter.net> > > > To: CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 03 April 2002 02:22 > > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Intro. MILLWARD & MEEK > > > > > > > > > >Hello from Washington State USA, > > > > > > > >I recently found that my g.g.grandparents John MEEK and Nancy MILLWARD > > were > > > >boat people born abt. 1820 (+/-). Their daughter was Sarah MEEK b. > 1841 > > > >at Oldbury. Sarah married Joseph COOPER of Smethwick in 1871 and > > > >immigrated to US abt. 1872. > > > > > > > >I am so happy to find your list and learn what it meant to be a canal > > > >person. I look forward to some discovery. > > > > > > > >Vana Fessler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > > > Have you tried? > > > C J Genealogical Collections > > > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > > C J Genealogical Collections > > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Re My LISSIMOREs. I have just read that there are a lot of nonconformist churches at Oldbury. Where is Oldbury compared to Gospel Oak, could there be a connection?. Would it be worth writing to Sandwell, as I gather the records have not been filmed or is there someone on the list who would be going to a library where there is a copy of the transcripts.?? Regards beth in Toronto