Hi Try this site it has the mail archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Chris Stoke on Trent Researching BEAUMONT, REEVES, MCCREADY

Hello everyone, Could someone please help me to open PDF files from internet sites. All I get in the top left of screen is a small icon which is square with red, green and blue shapes inside it. This happens everytime I come across PDF file links. I have the Acrobat Reader 5 installed, which opens all my CD's without problem. No matter what I try, it will not open this icon. I just get an error message that the file must be corrupted in some way. I get very frustrated because I miss out on such a lot of information, usually catalogues etc. Linda Briggs Linda.Briggs1@btinternet.com

Hi Folks,, I''m afraid the good weather has led me into the garden, so I haven't got much done on the Boatmen in the last few days, but here are a few They are ALL at ASTON.WARWICK at 7+8 Southalls Bldgs,Long Acre Thomas GOODYEAR/M/43/Master Boat Builder (Kidderminster,Worcester) with wife and 10 ch. at 234 Long Acre, George FAULKES/M/52/Laborer (Canal Co)(Jns) (N.K.Worcester) with wife & 5 ch at "Industry" Canal Boat Thomas HARKELL /M/29/Boatman (Coal) (Warwick) with mate---- Alfred MITCHELL/U/26/Boatman (Coal) (Warwick) and------ John HOLDBACK/M/57/Captain,Boatman (Coal) (Warwick) and----- George HOLDBACK/U/31/Mate ,Boatman (Coal) (Warwick) at 45 Cuckoo Rd, Samuel SMITH/W/39 Boat Maker (Worcester) with4 ch (I hope this is a Boat maker not Boot maker, he has 2 sailor sons !) at 72 Cuckoo Rd, Charles FINCH/M/37/Boat Builder (Gloucester) with wife & 5 ch at 91 Nechells Park Rd, Samuel PILKINTON/M/34/Boat Builder (Astley,Lancashire) with wife & servant at 2 Laurel Cottages, George St, Henry.G.FEATHERSTONE/M/23/Boatman (W) (Pershore,Worcester) with wife & 2 daus. at 5 Melbourne Place George Street, Joseph MORTIBOYS/M/34/Boatman (W) with wife & 4 ch at 64 Church Rd, George PRICE/M/55/Boat Builder (Gloucester) with wife at Nursery Terrace 13, William Wakefield FLETCHER/M/53/lerk to Canal Company (London,Middlesex) with wife & 7 ch & serv. at 44 Nursery Terrace, Wm LAW/M/54/Boat Maker (Barford Gloucester) with wife & 2 sons (Once again is he a boat maker ot a boot maker ?) at Furnace Lane, Thomas INGRAM/M/32/Boat Man (R) (B'ham,Warwick) with in/laws (SMITH)& family at 47 Whitehead Rd, Joseph OSBORN/M/57/Boat Builder ( Birmingham,Warwick) with wife 3 ch & boarder at 7 Court, 5 House, George KIRBY/M/44/Boatman (Barge) (Birmingham) with wife & 8 ch. at 60 Aston Rd, Absalom PEERS/W/61/Manager of Coal Wharf (Dealer) (Birmingham,Warwick) with 5 ch. at Bridge Wharf Avenue Rd, James CUTTLER/M/30/Coal Boat Steerer (Barge) irmingham,Warwick) with wife 5 ch at 44 Catherine Street. John SMEDLEY/M/59/Canal oat Worker (Barge) (Loughborough,Leics) with wife 3 ch & Grandson at No 1 House,No 1 Court,Wainwright St, William HARTLEY//55/Boatman (Barge) (Birm.Warwick) with wife & 3 ch at 135 Wainwright St, Joseph RABONE/M/44/Boatman (Barge) (Alchurch,Worcester) with wife & 8 ch. at No 1 Wharf St, Joseph BURTON/M/36/Lock Keeper (Ins) (Birm,Warwick) with wife & 3 sons More when I can. Regards Thelma

Hi all, Having been successful at getting request through to NWM a week ago, they are sending me what info. they have found, through the post---marvellous service!!!! Regards Chris

Forwarded, by request of Brian Randell Hi We are seeking volunteers to fill vacancies that have arisen for county page developers in GENUKI, the UK & Ireland Genealogical information service, particularly but not solely in Scotland. GENUKI is widely regarded as the premier on-line source for information about UK genealogy - it now contains more than 30,000 pages, occupying over 450 Mbytes of information, and over fifty people (many of whom have further helpers) are involved in its maintenance. The counties concerned are: ENGLAND - Berkshire, London, Middlesex, Shropshire, Somerset, Surrey SCOTLAND - Banffshire, Berwickshire, Bute, Dunbartonshire, Dumfriesshire, Kincardineshire, Midlothian, Moray, Nairnshire, Peebles-shire, Renfrewshire, Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Shetland, Stirlingshire, Sutherland, West Lothian WALES - Merionethshire, Monmouthshire The main requirements of county page volunteers are threefold: 1. Either considerable experience of family research in the specific area(s), or local knowledge and contacts within the area. 2. The ability to create simple HTML pages directly and also maintain them (including a basic understanding of HTML, directory structure management, and FTP). 3. Lots of enthusiasm! The work involved in taking responsibility for a county page is described at http://www.genuki.org.uk/org/guide.html. The amount of work that county page developers do varies considerably, and is of course governed by the amount of time they have available, the extent to which they can enlist the help of others - as indeed many have successfully done - and the level of ambition that they set for their pages. This is of course influenced by what other volunteers are managing elsewhere on their GENUKI county and parish pages - many of which have become rather impressive! However, we are keen to get to the stage where all the rest of our counties have at least basic information pages for all of their parishes. I'd be happy to try and answer any queries from potential volunteers for the above counties - and would also encourage people interested in helping with any of the other counties to contact the respective county page maintainer directly. (His/her name is to be found via the link to GENUKI maintainers near the foot of the GENUKI main page, http://www.genuki.org.uk/.) Anyone interested in helping with the Ireland section of GENUKI, which also has a number of vacancies, is invited to contact Richard White <white@hiwaay.net>. cheers Brian Randell Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.349 / Virus Database: 195 - Release Date: 2002-15-Apr

Hello June and List The URL for the Sankey Canal Restoration Society is now: http://www.scars.org.uk/ Hope that helps David in Hertford, England I use old reference books reproduced on CD from www.archivecdbooks.org to help with my research Canal interests: BAXTER (Leigh area, also anywhere near the Bridgewater Canal in Lancashire or Cheshire) ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Howlett" <howlett@wn.com.au> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Sankey Canal > Dear Listers, > I have tried a number of times to view the web site for the above mentioned but it never loads correctly, does anyone else have this problem or is it just me? > The url I use is > http://www.imusiconline.co.uk/scars/index.html > Regards > June > Western Australia > Searching for > Whitfield, Rooke, Howlett, Brown, Bell, Williams

Museums Collection on Line The project to itemise the collection of the waterways museums and to put the catalogue on line has just come to fruition, and can be accessed through the National Waterways Museum¹s web site at www.nwm.org.uk. Under the title of the National Inland Waterways Collection, over 14,000 objects are listed, with facilities to search by waterway, personal, corporate, place or boat name, content, or object ­ linked to the Waterways Objects Name Thesaurus, which in itself is a valuable Œdictionary¹ of waterway terms. Many of the museums¹ artefacts have been photographed and images of these can be viewed on line, in some cases, such as Gifford¹s cabin stool, from three different angles. The site promises to be a valuable resource for researchers unable to get to Gloucester or for preliminary research prior to a visit. § There is an even more ambitious plan to catalogue all The Waterways Trust¹s archives, plus other British Waterways archives not held by BW or TWT, onto the web, but the sheer size of this undertaking means that it will not be available for at least another two years. -- Hugh Potter Researching the Cromford Canal's History

Dear Listers, I have tried a number of times to view the web site for the above mentioned but it never loads correctly, does anyone else have this problem or is it just me? The url I use is http://www.imusiconline.co.uk/scars/index.html Regards June Western Australia Searching for Whitfield, Rooke, Howlett, Brown, Bell, Williams

Hi Folks, Have been a bit busy this week and haven't had much time to spare. The Following are still all at ASTON,WARWICKS, I didn't know it was such a huge area ! at Bk 102 , 6 Aston Rd. Thoms BURTON/M/40/Boatman (Warwick,Warwick) with wife at Chester Street Lock Keepers House, George ROWLINSON/M/31/Lock Keeper (Netherton,Stafford ( with wife , 2 daus & Mother in law with her dau (Lowe) at Chester Street Lock Keepers House, John BAIZON/M/64/Lock Keeper (Hampshire) wityh wife 3 ch & Grd.dau at Chester Street House in Chester Street Wharf Sarah MULLERT/W/72/Charger of Canal Wharf (Brimley.Kingswinford,Stafford( with dau. at 48 Richard St, Harry BRADLEY/U/21/Boatman (Birmignahm,Warwick) with Mother .W. 2 sisters, & 2 illegit,ch. at 5 Ct,3Bk,118 Francis St] James BUTLER/U/41/Coal Boat Emptier (Birmingham,Warwick) with Brother & family at 4 Court, 22 Gt Lister St, James PUGH/M/50/Boatman (Cheltenham,Gloucester) with wife & 5 ch at 125 Gt Lister St, Thomas BETTS/W/42/Canal lerk(BIrmingham,Warwick) with 4 ch at 204 Gt,Francis St, John ALLCOCK/Cartr in Coal Wharf (Dossington,Worcester) with wife, 3 ch & Lodger at Bk 78 Scholefield St. Thomas PEARSON/U/47/Boatman (OLdbuty) with sister Elis Daniel, Bro & niece at 63 Rocky Lane, Henry DRAKELEY/M/49.Boatman (Kineaton,Warwick) with wife & dau (Bolton) at 38 Ct,4 Cromwell St,Aston,Warwick Samuel SESTON/M/56/Boatman (W) (Nottingham,) with wife & 4 ch incl---- William SESTON/16/Boatman (W) (Birm,Warwick) at 42 Ct,Cromwell St, William SLIM/U/23/Boatman (Birmm,Warwick) with Father .W. & 4 siblings at 45 Ct ,4 Cromwell St, Aaron DRAKELEY/M30/oat Sterer,W,an (Nuneaton,Warwick) with wife & Dau at Charles Arthur St,Thomas Bdgs 2 Back, Thomas DRAKELEY/M/22/Boatman (Birmingham,Warwick)wife ,2 ch & Boarder---- Joseph BOLTON/U/18/Boatman (Willey,Leicester) at 2 Prospect Place,Holborn Hill, oseph SMITH/M/28/Boatman (Birmingham Warwick) with wife & 3 ch. More next week Regards Thelma

Hi all, Just to say that I used the e-mail address supplied by Mick and it got through.....no reply yet but it didn't bounce!!! Regards Chris. P.S..still trying to find more details of Frederick Butler....b.1871..Birmingham Spent his working life on the canals..is anyone else researching this name??

Hi Thelma, I've got www.nwm.org.uk for their webpage ! Regards Mick ----- Original Message ----- From: <ThlmMry@aol.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Waterways Museum > Hi Folks > I tried to e-mail the National Waterways Museum, but it bounced back > > Could someone kindly post it again in case I got it wrong.? > > > Thans in advance, Thelma > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks Mick and others who sent the site address.. I'll try again Thelma

Dear Sue, I have just checked through the 1851 (Over/Winsford) and found:- folio 102, page 11, schedule 45 Over Lane, Over Benjamin HULSE, head, married, 42, Waterman, Boat, born Wharton. Alice HULSE, wife, 42, born Over. Joseph HULSE, son, 3, at home, born Over. James PERCIVAL, (?step)son, 17, labourer, born Over. Best Wishes, Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Dodd" <Sue@sdodd.fslife.co.uk> To: <canal-people-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:15 PM Subject: Weaver Watermen Researching Hulse family Over, Winsford area of Cheshire 1855 and before. I have Benjamin Hulse listed on his son Samuel's birth cert. in 1855 as a waterman.Any help much appreciated! Cheshire pages, Staffordshire/Shropshire pages www.fountalnpen.com Everything is connected.

Hi Folks I tried to e-mail the National Waterways Museum, but it bounced back Could someone kindly post it again in case I got it wrong.? Thans in advance, Thelma

Hi John, Many thanks for advice about Waterways Museum. I'll e-mail them right now!1 Is it possible for anyone to look-up for me on the 1891 census for Frederick Butler, the boatman above, knowing my luck with this one, he was on the canal at the time and won't show up! ======In the 1881 census he was at home with his widowed mum and 2 brothers at 28 Macdonald Street Birmingham. Many thanks Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "CeliaSaunders" <celia@seabank88.fsnet.co.uk> To: <canal-people-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: information wanted I haven't been on the net long, i am not sure what a mailing list is.Can you explain. My G G.Grandfather was a Boatman in Sandbach Cheshire in the 1820 & 30's.I have been told that records dont go back that far. regards Mrs C Saunders --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.349 / Virus Database: 195 - Release Date: 2002-15-Apr

Chris In light of the address it is probable that if Fred owned a boat it would have been on the Birmingham canal Navigation (BCN) The national Waterways museum keep the gauging records including this era on a database. If you e mail them they will check their records to see if any boats were 'registered' to Butlers. It will be worth checking the family as some times the boats were gauged on behalf of wife and other family members the a mail address is info@nwm.demon.co.uk All the best John Carrington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Weymouth" <chris.weymouth@ntlworld.com> To: <CANAL-PEOPLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] butler-boatman > Hi all, > Loopking for anyone with connections to the Butler family. > Have my wife,s g,g,father Frederick Butler b.1871, 2 brothers Edward H and > William.-----widowed mother Sophia...all living at 28 Macdonald Street Birmingham > in 1881 census. > Frederick was a boatman, possibly owner. > Q. are there any canal archives I can access listing boats/owners/staff??? > Many thanks > Chris. > > > ==== CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List ==== > C J Genealogical Collections > Web Page http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, Loopking for anyone with connections to the Butler family. Have my wife,s g,g,father Frederick Butler b.1871, 2 brothers Edward H and William.-----widowed mother Sophia...all living at 28 Macdonald Street Birmingham in 1881 census. Frederick was a boatman, possibly owner. Q. are there any canal archives I can access listing boats/owners/staff??? Many thanks Chris.

Hi Folks, the following are still all at ASTON,WARWICK. at 2 Back,176,Aston oad, Charles BENTON/M/27/Canal Boat Labourer (Birmingham,Warwick) with wife & 2 ch at 8 Ct,4 Hos,Bracebridge St, George PARKINSON/M/28/Foreman Steerer (Hastings) with wife & 2 ch at 6 Ct.9 Aston RD, John HIGGINS/M/37/Canal Boat Steerer (N.K.Middlesex) with wife , 5 ch,nephew & Boarder----John PLIMER/17/Boat Stearr (Barge) (B'ham,Warwick) at 7 Ct,1 Aston Rd. John HANCOC<M/34/Lab on Canal Wharf (Bramton,Borthampton) with wife & 3 ch at 3 Forge St, John FOSTER/M/35/Boatman (B'ham,Warwick) with wife 2,ch,boarder & lodger------ George FIELD/U/23/Boatman (B'ham,Warwick) lodger at 4 Forge St,Reuben SMITH/M/50/Boatman (Nottingham,Nottingham) with wife,dau, visitor & boarder. at 5 Forge St. William DREW/M/53/Boatman (Aston,Warwick) with wife & 5 ch at 8 Forge St, Joseph.E.BURGESS/M/40/Boatman (Knutsford.Cheshire) with wife & wife;'s dau (Hale) at 10 Forge St, Ekiza.S.HOPKINS/M/40/Boatman (Branson) with wife 4,ch & 2 Lodgers------- Henry HAMILTON//32/Boatman (STratford on Avon)Lodger and John CROMPTON/U/20/Boatman (ASton,Warwick) Lodger at Lock Keepers House William E.BETTS/W/64/Canal Toll Clerk (B'ham,Warwick) with dau & sis/in/law (Cardall) Vessel "MATILDA" Thomas TOWNSEND/M/39/Boatman (Bath,Somerset( with wife & 3 dau at 3 Mill St. Thomas WITTON/U/47/Boatman (Aston,Warwick) with lodger Joseph TIVY/W/74/Boat Maker (N.K.Derby) at 33 Mill st. George HOOD//57/Boatman (B'ham,Warwick) with wife & 2 sons incl Thomas HOOD/16/Boatman (Aston,Warwick) Regards Thelma

Forwarding please do NOT reply to me! ----- Original Message ----- From: "gayle.jeff" <gayle.jeff@ntlworld.com> To: <canal-people-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} SCRAGG Hi Am seeking the SCRAGG family. Peter was a master working for Anderton. Cheers Jeff --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.345 / Virus Database: 193 - Release Date: 2002-09-Apr