1841 Census, Kingswinford, HO 107/996 at Wordsley HUGHES Edwin 20 Boatman not born this county at Dock, Wordsley, ....Ouble Lock House. WESTWOOD John 50 Lock keeper WESTWOOD Comfort 50 WESTWOOD Benj'n 20 Lab'r WESTWOOD John 15 Lab'r WESTWOOD Ellen 15 WESTWOOD Littleton 12 WESTWOOD Eli 10 WESTWOOD Selina 8 WESTWOOD Josia 6 All born this county.

1871 Census, Pelsall, near Walsall, Staffordshire. RG 10 / 2957 Living on Boat at Pelsall Iron Works HAYWOOD Robert (Head)40 Boatman b.Dudley Wood,Worcs. HAYWOOD Maria (Wife) 26 b.Manchester,Lancs. HAYWOOD Emma (dau) 5 b.Dudley Wood, Worcs.

Hello Listers:- The following two families in the 1881 census are ancestors of mine. Elizabeth Hewitt was my great grandmother. Does anyone have knowledge or reference to them? The lived in Selly Oak Birmingham on a lane leading to the Bristol canal bank and I think they worked the canals in the area. Dwelling: High Street Dingle Census Place: Northfield, Worcester, England Source: FHL Film 1341706 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2952 Folio 93 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Daniel HEWITT M 43 M Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Beerhouse Keeper Elizh. HEWITT M 40 F Upton On Severn, Worcester, England Rel: Wife Hannah HEWITT U 14 F Harbourne, Stafford, England Rel: Niece Dwelling: High Street Dingle Census Place: Northfield, Worcester, England Source: FHL Film 1341706 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2952 Folio 93 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Willm. HEWITT M 34 M Selly Oak, Worcester, England Rel: Head Occ: Barge Boatman Ellen HEWITT M 32 F Shipston On Stour, Worcester, England Rel: Wife Henry T. HEWITT U 6 M Selly Oak, Worcester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizh. HEWITT 5 F Selly Oak, Worcester, England Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Rebbecca HEWITT 1 F Selly Oak, Worcester, England Rel: Dau Grateful for any information. Ken Johnson, Ilkley, West Yorks. UK

There appears to be several people on the list who are totally new to this fascinating and addictive hobby. I therefore thought it worth mentioning the following information as a kind of "started kit". For descriptions and addresses of mailing lists and MUCH more Genealogy resources on the Internet http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html For those researching the UK. This informative site is well worth a visit. You can start in one county and follow links through different Counties, making use of the information and surnames listings available. All that travelling without leaving the armchair and finding a parking space<VBG>. UK & Ireland Genealogical Information Service -- Main Page http://www.genuki.org.uk/ There is also www.genforum.com a message board system for surnames etc. As a started book for genealogy I can thoroughly recommend Ancestral Trails published by the Society of Genealogists and Sutton Publishing and Written by Mark Heber. Hope this is of interest. Regards Julie Goucher [email protected]

Forwarding, as this was sent to the subscribe address! Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: brian arnold <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:24 AM Subject: WEIGHTMAN's,KEY's and ALSOP's in DBY > Hello All > > Thought I would post my interests as I am new to your list. > > I have several generations of my KEY family living and working as boatmen > and women in Derbyshire on the CROMFORD canal. > They show up in the 1841/51/71/81 Census for Lower Hartshay, Bull Bridg, > Crich, Heage and Ridgeway area. > > My KEY's married into the following families - > ALLSOP, BEIGHTON, WEIGHTMAN/WIGHTMAN, BACON, STONE, SELLORS, > BAXTER and LIMB. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Regards Brian Arnold in sunny South Australia. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >

The Executors of Daniel ALLPORT's Will dated 1857 were Sarah ALLPORT nee Pearson and Joseph PEARSON, boat carrier, of Tobacco, Boxhill, in the parish of Kingswinford, Staffordshire. Anyone interested in PEARSON ? Regards Pat.

Thanks, John, for the Lapworth information. Probably more interesting than you could have thought. I'm not a 100 percent sure till I check up well, but I think you may have helped me find the family's first bigamist! Our cupboard is full of skeletons but a bigamist was missing! I'll let you know when I find out. Cheers, Geoff

Hi Tony I'm looking for PARKER's, my wife's family. I know that Samuel Parker came up from Lincolnshire sometime between him marrying Maria Barton in May 1849 at Spalding, Lincs, and the birth of their first child in Wakefield in May 1850. I have Samuel on the 1851 census but after that he just isn't at home but his wife is not a widow. He must have come home sometime as they had kids in 1850, 1852, 1854, 1856, 1858, 1860, and 1862. His occupation on the baptisms runs through waterman, canalman, and mariner. He died in 1878. The main problem is that on the 1851 census he claimed to be born in Boston, Lincs, but I have checked all the parish registers and can't find his baptism. I'm hoping that if I can find him on another census he may be more specific. Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: 15 February 2000 12:12 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Aire & Calder Canal > > In a message dated 15/02/00 08:45:33 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > << 'm searching for ancestors that used the grain run up from Lincolnshire to > Wakefield and I can only find them on one census. >> > > Hi Eric, > Just out of interest, what name/s and which census? > > Tony (in Wales). > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hello canal people listers this is my first attempt at putting my canal boat families out into the big wide world. All of my ancestors on my fathers side are all canal boatmen below is a few of the names that I am researching. Yarnall Yarnell Yarnold from Worcestershire,Staffordshire Savage from Gloucestershire, Staffordshire Dale from Staffordshire Hayward from Shropshire,Staffordshire Theobald from Derbyshire,Cheshire,Staffordshire Wagstaff From Staffordshire Gould from Staffordshire Cartwright from Staffordshire Griffiths from Warwickshire George from Staffordshire,Warwickshire Wenlock from Worcestershire,Staffordshire,Northamptonshire Higgins from Oxfordshire Staffordshire James from Gloucestershire,Staffordshire Hollinshead from Staffordshire Bayley,Bailey from Cheshire,Staffordshire Carter from Staffordshire Cheshire Hodson from Cheshire,Staffordshire Sandbach from Cheshire Postles from Cheshire New From Cheshire This is half of the names I am trying to find infomation on. I have quite a lot of info on my direct line the Yarnall's and on the Wenlocks. I would be very happy to make contact with anybody who is searching similar names. I will put on the next 20 another day. Lorna York

If this knowledge is available can it be sent to the group please rather than just back to Eileen. I'm searching for ancestors that used the grain run up from Lincolnshire to Wakefield and I can only find them on one census. They might have been somewhere on the on the Calder. Eric Carlton, WRY > -----Original Message----- > From: E Walmsley [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: 14 February 2000 20:22 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Aire & Calder Canal > > Could anyone tell me please if there are any records of people who owned or > worked on barges from the Castleford area to Goole. > > Regards > Eileen. > Melbourne, Australia > [email protected] > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

In a message dated 15/02/00 08:45:33 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << 'm searching for ancestors that used the grain run up from Lincolnshire to Wakefield and I can only find them on one census. >> Hi Eric, Just out of interest, what name/s and which census? Tony (in Wales).

Hello! In the 1881 census, George BOUGH was listed as (dwelling) Canal Side, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire. George was born in Worcester in 1844 (baptised at St. Helen), son of George and Mary BOUGH. George's wife Mary was from Wales. Their children were Hannah, John, Richard, Mary, George, Jane and Maria BOUGH. My interest is in John, born 1868. He later married Ann FRYER at Ogley Hay. If anyone on this list is connected to this family, I would love to hear from you. Cheers, Leslie in Victoria, British Columbia

Could anyone tell me please if there are any records of people who owned or worked on barges from the Castleford area to Goole. Regards Eileen. Melbourne, Australia [email protected]

Hello Geoff, This is what I have managed to find out so far. Dwelling Hawkesbury Lane, Sowe, Warwick, England. Thomas LAPWORTH occ Boatman age 46 born Nuneaton Elizabeth LAPWORTH Wife age 44 born Bilston, Stafford. Elijah LAPWORTH occ Boatman age 15 born Smethwick, Stafford. David LAPWORTH Scholar age 10 born Nuneaton, Warwick. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Dwelling, Canal Boat, Napton on Hill, Warwick, England. Joseph LAPWORTH occ Canal Boat Steerer ( Bargeman ) age 19 Born Smethwick Warwick. Arthur LAPWORTH occ Canal Boat Driver age 14 Born Smethwick, Warwick. Note that on one Smethwick is in Stafford and on the other its in Warwick. I have not found any FLOWERS who were boat-people. This information is taken from the 1881 census Hope this is some help to you. Regards John T Rutter. in Eccles Manchester.

Hi everybody, May I say how pleased I am to find the Canal list. It's a very special subject which probably contributed very much to the migration of our ancestors and the consequent brick walls in searching for them. Myself, I am interested in finding out more about the LAPWORTH and FLOWERS families. They were related. They both operated out of Nuneaton, Warks from the 1840s to about 1930 but due to the nature of the occupation may have spread, though I suspect more that the men may have imported wives to Nuneaton. I believe that the LAPWORTHs had their own barges. Is there an index somewhere where barge owners and their routes, types of cargo etc. are listed? Or am I being too optimistic? If any of you stumble across either of these names I should be very grateful if you would let me know. Geoff in Helsinki

Hi! I've just subscribed to the list in the hope I can find someone else with SEPHTON connections. James SEPHTON born Stockwith / Misterton, Notts 1785, moved to Foleshill WAR and married Sarah ROLLASON 1806. The family were canal boat builders of Foleshill, but spent some time in Leighton Buzzard (?delivering a boat), and also seem to have had connections with Oldbury, Staffs. The extended family also seemed to be landlords of several Inns in the Alderman's Green area of Foleshill (Greyhound, New, Boat, Bird in the Hand). I'd love to hear of anyone with SEPHTON connections... Best wishes Carole (Sheffield)

I have come across the following. It looks very informative http://community-1.webtv.net/NeptuneGrpLLC/CANALSINLAND/ Regards Julie Goucher [email protected] ***Please note NEW Email address***

Hi Eric, I am afraid I have nothing to offer on Heeds or Burgess, but I am interested in MILLWARD. I am also researching MILLWARD in Staffordshire, but without much success. According to our Family Bible Robert MILLWARD was born at Worcester in 1826. He married in 1852 in Wolverhampton to one Mary Ann OWEN, who was born in Coventry, but the year before her marriage could be found living in Tipton with her grandmother, Nancy BRIDGES. On their marriage certificate both Robert and his father, John's occupations were given was Watermen. >From there Robert and Mary Ann moved around the area until they came to Birmingham and settled there. At some point Robert gave up the boatman's life and worked on the railway before becoming a drayman in Birmingham. That is the only information I have and for years I have been trying to progress further than this point but without any success. I have not managed to track down either Robert or John before the marriage in 1852. They were not even on the census of Wolverhampton in 1851. I don't know if any of this bears any relationship to your study, but if you feel there is a connection I would be delighted to hear from you. Regards Jackie Kidderminster, Worcestershire.

In and around 1890 - would a young boy who had run away from home be taken on the canal boats to work.? My grandfather Henry ran away when he was around 8 - and he was a canal boatman through adult life - so I wonder how hard it would have been in those days for him to be taken on as help - in other words - would it have been legal.? TIA Milly - Perth au [email protected]

I have located the following books, which might be of interest to you. The WaterWays of Brtain, a social panorama by D D Gladwin. Published by B T Batsford Ltd London 1976 ISBN 0 7134 3159 8 100 British Canals, an illustrated history by Charles Hadfield Published by David and Charles Newton Abbot Devon Eng 7th Edition 1984 ISBN 0 7153 8568 2 hardback ISBN 0 7153 8569 0 paperback Hadfield's British Canals by Joseph Boughey Published by Alan Sutton Publishing 1994 ISBN 0 7509 0017-2 I can check the indexes for those who want it. Regards Julie Goucher [email protected] ***Please note NEW Email address***