Does anyone know of Birmingham boat people - James Knight & son Thomas Knight (also known as Thomas Ross Knight or Thomas Joseph Knight. Period 1870 to 1920 Thanks Tony Knight ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs Julie Goucher <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 1:58 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Fw: Disley family of boatpeople > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roy Pennington <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:24 PM > Subject: Disley family of boatpeople > > > > Hi Listers , > > I am looking for information about the Disleys who worked > on the Leeds Liverpool canal and the Bridgewater canal. My grandfather was > Thomas Disley of Marsland Green, Astley . His father was also Thomas he was > born at Halsall, any information about the family especially the siblings of > the latter Thomas who was born in 1844 would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > Roy Pennington > > > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Hi, I am new to this list. If I am asking an inappropriate question for this list please feel free to advise me,.....nicely please. Apparently in 1802 my 4 x gr grandfather Benjamin SHILLITO was appointed "Lockkeeper and Receiver of the dues". He was granted a salary of 50 guineas per annum and a house to live in by the Barnsley Canal Navigation Company. Benjamin's lock was at Agbrigg and he maintained this position until his death in 1820. Does anyone have any history on this particular lock or be able to advise me where I could write for more info. Thank you, Marg Mission, B.C., Canada

----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Pennington <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:24 PM Subject: Disley family of boatpeople > Hi Listers , > I am looking for information about the Disleys who worked on the Leeds Liverpool canal and the Bridgewater canal. My grandfather was Thomas Disley of Marsland Green, Astley . His father was also Thomas he was born at Halsall, any information about the family especially the siblings of the latter Thomas who was born in 1844 would be greatly appreciated. > > > Regards, > Roy Pennington >

Forwarding ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 6:57 PM Subject: HARRIS , HAMBRIDGE, SIMPSON > Do these names sound familiar to anyone? The families worked on the Oxford > canal. They had close links with Eynsham & Hawkesbury. > > WILLIAM HARRIS m ANN KYTE > > daughter HARRIET HARRIS b.1839 m JAMES HAMBRIDGE (b.1842) IN 1859. > Their children were: > John > William > George > Elizabeth > Harriet > Sarah Ann > Jane > James > Mary > Rhoda > Charlotte > > Sarah Ann m Arthur Simpson in 1892 > > Contact me if you spot any links > Margaret >

Does anyone know if one of the jobs on a narrow boat would be called a BEATLER. Some young sons of our boatman ancestor were thus named on the 1881 census. Jim SHARPE 10374 MLFHS Manchester 5082 CFHS [email protected] SHARP CUL SHARPE LAN MCKNIGHT LAN O'NEILL IRL & LAN HEGARTY IRL & LAN HANAGHAN IRL & LAN

Forwarding! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Knight <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: New to list > Hi all - my ancestors appeared to have been boat people - living in and around Watery Lane,Bham at end of 19th century. My gt g/father is shown on a baptism record in 1913 as being a canalboatman - where can I go to get any lists or records - on or offline? > Thanks for advice > Tony K >

Still trying to find out more about My GGrandfather Henry Heley/Healey & son Edward. GGrandfather worked as a boatman & waterman & Edward worked as a waterman Age 17 in 1851 census. ---They came to Canada in 1854 All help is appreciated---Larry Healey Campbellford ,Ont. (On the Trent canal)

----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Hyam-Mooney <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 9:31 PM Subject: Netherton Road > Bob, are you both still on the Canal, and are you okay? just discovered this > address, I'm still ploughing through family history, and walking the dogs at > Wyke Regis, Weymouth, Cynthia >

Hi Julie, Sorry but no message came through from you apart from your name, but appended at the bottom of my original message was the instruction "search all of rootsweb mailing list in realtime ". Being relatively new to computers and their jargon, I do not understand what this means could you please enlighten me . Thank you, Roy Pennington.

I am new to the list, so hello to you canal folks ! Does anyone know if I am likely to be able to obtain any information, or better still a picture of 'Browns Field Wharf' on the Rochdale canal in Manchester. My GGG-Grandfather, William Henry BROWNE ran a coal business there around 1834 and I would like to find out more about him. Any pointers gratefully received. Cheers, Geoff Browne.

Hi Julie, Sorry but no mess age came through from you, but appended at the bottom of my original message was the instuction "search all of rootsweb mailing list in realtime" Being relatively new to computers and their jargon I do not understand what this means, Please contact me again I would love to hear from you. Best Regards, Roy Pennington.

Hi, Anyone out there have relatives who worked on the Canadian Canals around 1900 and later? I have some photos of some men who worked on (probably) the Welland around 1909? that I would love to identify. grace

My grandfather (David THOMAS b. 1848, Manchester) and two ggf. (Samuel THOMAS and Samuel EVANS ) were boatmen. I have still to confirm the date and birthplace of Samuel THOMAS, but it is likely he was born in Ashton-under-Lyne in 1802. In the mid to late 1800s both David and Samuel lived near the junction of the Rochdale and Ashton canals, Manchester. I did not know my gf. as he died the year after I was born. At that time he was living at Woodhouses, Failsworth, Manchester. From what I learned from my father, before my gf.retired, he was managing the Hollinwood branch of the Aston canal. It would appear that both Samuel and David THOMAS were working day boats in and out of Manchester. Samuel EVANS in the late 1880's was living within walking distance of the Hollinwood basin of the Ashton canal. I have not been able (as yet) to confirm his birth date in 1825 or that he was born in Knutsford - the place he gave in the 1881Census.Knutsford seems a long way (walking distance) from any canal system. If anyone has access to any canal company records, would they be good enough to check where these men may have worked. Thank you David Thomas, Toowoomba, Australia

Hello James It is HODKINSON (no G) from the Cheshire area. Barbara Terrace Heswall, Wirral Researching in Cheshire: HUNT (Tarporley/Tarvin), HODKINSON (Tarvin/Tarporley), GREGORY (Tarporley) MELLOR/MILLAR(Neston), MATTHEWS (Neston), SMITH ( Neston), BILLINGTON Neston/Tarvin/Little Budworth) JONES (Tarvin), THOMPSON (Newton, Runcorn), WILKINSON (Preston Brook, Runcorn), HOLDEN (Great Sankey/Warrington) NORMAN (Neston) Also TERRACE - Anywhere, Anytime -----Original Message----- From: James Pearce <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 27, February, 2000 21:23 Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Signing off >Hello Barbara... > >Before you sign off, a quick yes or no will suffice (for now, until you >return) > >You mention HODKINSON and I am wondering if this is a typo and should >be HODGKINSON ?? > >I am looking for a George HODGKINSON, emigrated to New York and Pennsylvania >with wife and three children about 1895, from Midlands? George was an >accountant. Wife and children moved to Canada, Ontario about 1901 but >George stayed in Pennsylvania and never rejoined the family. > >Any interest here? > >Cheers, >James. > > > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hello Barbara... Before you sign off, a quick yes or no will suffice (for now, until you return) You mention HODKINSON and I am wondering if this is a typo and should be HODGKINSON ?? I am looking for a George HODGKINSON, emigrated to New York and Pennsylvania with wife and three children about 1895, from Midlands? George was an accountant. Wife and children moved to Canada, Ontario about 1901 but George stayed in Pennsylvania and never rejoined the family. Any interest here? Cheers, James.

Dear All I am back from holiday. I have made the request below with no success but perhaps I will have better luck this time! I am researching religious missions to canal boatmen in the 19th and 20th centuries. A colleague and I have quite a lot of information but would welcome more on the subject Also if anyone could tell us the whereabouts of any copies of The Waterman from 1948 onwards, we would be deeply grateful. We can access them from 1894 to 1947 but want to know more about the last days of the magazine and the society. The Waterman was published by the Seamen and Boatmen's Friend Society, formed in 1850 and now defunct. The magazine was distributed amongst boatmen as well as to mission supporters and we are hoping that some copies may have survived. Gill

Hello everyone, I am new to the list. Am looking for Barratts mainly from Hillmorton, Rugby, Warwickshire. All of the following are recorded as being on canal boats: John BARRATT married Ann BEALE 28.12.1824 Ansty, Warwickshire. Their children, all Barratts, christened at Hillmorton: WILLIAM 4.4.1847, JOHN 10.9.1848, FREDERICK 1.1.1851, ALFRED JOHN, 5.1.1852 and THOMAS ELI, 6.2.1856. Also ELI B BARRATT 1860, Burslem, Stoke-on-Trent, & ANN S BARRATT, b1861, Burslem again. ALFRED JOHN BARRATT above married ELIZA WILLIAMS who was born 31.10.1856 in Ebenezer Row, West Bromwich. Please get in touch if any connections. Thanks, Elaine

Andrew Riding <[email protected]> asks [major snip] > I am completely confused as to how a man born in Selby into a sailing family could end up in Dewsbury as a clothier. It would seem that the only link between the two places is the canal. < While not impossible it is more likely (unless you have very solid evidence to the contary) that they are different people. So many people get muddled over different people with the same name that earlier this month I posted some horror stories on "Genealogy in Hertfordshire" under the heading "Right Name, Wrong Body". One example was of a hamlet of about 400 people where there were (over a relatively short time scale three men called George Seabrook who, between them, were married to four women called Sarah.) There were also some other George Seabrookes living within a mile or two who (as far as I know) never married a Sarah. At the period you are talking about (late 18th/early 19th century) many people were associated with chapels whose records have not survived - so there are no records available recording the births of children. It is very easy, in such cases, for an amateur family historian to look for the name in the IGI and assume than there is a link on the basis of the name alone - and generate a totally spurious ancestry. Chris Reynolds <[email protected]> If you want to know more about your Hertfordshire ancestors visit "Genealogy in Hertfordshire" at http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk where many of the enquiries are quickly answered.

Hello Everyone I have hit something of a brick wall in my research and am hoping that SKS can help me at least take one or two of these bricks down. I am searching for the origins of my 4XGGrandfather James RIDING. James was a clothier who lived and died in Dewsbury, West Riding of Yorkshire. James married Hannah NEWSOME on 7th November, 1814 at Dewsbury and died and was buried there in 1827 aged 34.At his marriage the parish register described him as "of this parish" but there are absolutely no other clues as to his origins at all before this point in time. I have done extensive research over the years and have found two possibilities for my James. The first is a Jemmy RIDING born in Keighley in 1792 and the other is James Riding born in Selby in 1792. James and Hannah had two sons, both of whom they called Joseph (obviously, one died young). As Hannahs father was called Benjamin, I am assuming that James father was called Joseph, this fits the Selby possibility perfectly. This is where your experience of the canals (especially the Aire and Calder) maybe able to help me. The Selby James father was a sailor who obviously ! lived and worked out of Selby. I would like to know the following: a/ Was a sailor then the same as a sailor today, i.e. would they be limited to working on the high-seas or would they venture onto the inland waterways. b/How likely would it be that a sailor who reached late middle age would transfer from working the high-seas to working the inland waterways. c/More specifically, has anyone any knowledge of a Joseph RIDING working the Aire and Calder, or any other canal around 1800 - 1810. I am completely confused as to how a man born in Selby into a sailing family could end up in Dewsbury as a clothier. It would seem that the only link between the two places is the canal. Any help on this matter or anything related to sea and canal trade in and out of Selby around 1800 would be most gratefully received. Best regards Andrew Riding

I will be signing off within the next couple of days for a well earned holiday. If any one has any connections with Cheshire or Lancashire waterways or with my HOLDEN family of watermen then please contact me direct at [email protected] Thank you Barbara Terrace Heswall, Wirral Researching in Cheshire: HUNT (Tarporley/Tarvin), HODKINSON (Tarvin/Tarporley), GREGORY (Tarporley) MELLOR/MILLAR(Neston), MATTHEWS (Neston), SMITH ( Neston), BILLINGTON Neston/Tarvin/Little Budworth) JONES (Tarvin), THOMPSON (Newton, Runcorn), WILKINSON (Preston Brook, Runcorn), HOLDEN (Great Sankey/Warrington) NORMAN (Neston) Also TERRACE - Anywhere, Anytime