I have ALLENs from Ipstones near the beginning of the Cauldon Canal. Thomas ALLEN was some type of furnace man for ironworks. I am trying to find out if any of his sons were boatmen. Their names were: James b. abt. 1848: John b. abt. 1856; and Alfred b. abt. 1861. Thanks Laura Bradley Groton Connecticut USA

Tony, I am interested in the information you have on GRIFFITHS, William. 46. Wednesbury. Should you see any boatmen my the names of ALLEN, COX, ROBERTS, DALE, or COOKE, I would be most happy to receive it or the source. Should I encounter any reference to your Calloways or Ayers/Ayars I shall let you know. Thank you. Laura Bradley Groton Connecticut USA

In a message dated 11/03/00 07:34:33 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I'd suggest that the James Jones, 32, was from NEWENT in Glos. >> Gus, Thanks. He's not 'mine' but, well you know how it is; tends to keep one tossing and turning all night. Tony Conolly

Gus - where were your ALLENS from ? I have ALLEN connections in Tipton but I've never got very far looking for them ! all the best, Nettie researching EDWARDS and HIXON canal ancestors in the Black Country and Beyond > From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:55:22 -0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Boatmen 1891 Oldbury. > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:34:11 -0800 > > Hi, > > Just as a quickie - I'd suggest that the James Jones, 32, was from NEWENT in > Glos. > > No ideas / help elsewhere. Sorry > > (And none of my FARRs, ALLENs, KIRKHAMs or QUINSEYs there, either - although > most of them were wide-beam, so perhaps unsurprising.) > > Gus Tysoe > Droitwich > Linear-Salt-Lake City > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi, Just as a quickie - I'd suggest that the James Jones, 32, was from NEWENT in Glos. No ideas / help elsewhere. Sorry (And none of my FARRs, ALLENs, KIRKHAMs or QUINSEYs there, either - although most of them were wide-beam, so perhaps unsurprising.) Gus Tysoe Droitwich Linear-Salt-Lake City

----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Withers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: INGRAM > Looking for info on the following family. They were Timber/Coal > Merchants/Carters and believed to have lived and worked on the Canals. All > the birth locations seem to be in very close proximatey to the Canal system. > > Samuel INGRAM b.? and wife Sarah b.cir1845 Lutterworth, Leics > Children: > William INGRAM b.cir1862 Sarrat, Herts > Maria INGRAM b.cir1864, Crick, Northants > John INGRAM b.cir1866 Crick, Northants > Sarah INGRAM b.cir1868 Wigston, Leics > Elizabeth INGRAM b.cir1871, Gumley, Leics > Joseph INGRAM b.cir1873, St.Margarets Parish, Leicester > Samuel INGRAM b.cir1876 St.Margarets Parish, Leicester > > Samuel was my GreatX3 Grandfather. Any information greatly appreciated. > > Regards > Dave Withers >

Hi, >From the 1891 Census: If anyone is interested in the following names, contact me. For the time being just family head name, age and birthplace: Nightingale, William. 22. Rounds Green. Nightingale, William. 46. Rounds Green. Millard, James. 30. Oldbury. Cooksey, John. 37. Oldbury. Wilerse, James. 25. Oldbury. Stevens, Thomas. 46. Oldbury. Lightfoot, William. 32. Oldbury. Millerchip, John. 25. Oldbury. Gibbs, Thomas. 25. Oldbury. Hadley, George Garner. 30. Oldbury. Higgins, Henry. 46. Oxford. Harcliffe, Charly (as written). 49. Middlesex(?) (difficult to read). Bayton, Thomas. 70. Longford. Griffiths, William. 46. Wednesbury. Bourne, Soloman. 20. Droitwich. Bunn, Thomas. 36. Droitwich. Barnes, James. 39. Gloucester. Mann, Thomas. 47. Gloucester. Keen, William. 59. Greets Green. Jones, James. 32. Looks like Derwent, Gloucestershire. Additional names later. Unfortunately, none of my Calloways or Ayers/Ayars:-( Does anyone have them berthed on disc/file? If so please tell them to return home, tea's ready. Tony Conolly (St George's Day: 23 April)

Please remove me from your list. Thank you Lonnie Lu Anderson [email protected] Phil Lamb wrote: > Canal Boats had to be registerd with the company that owned the canals along > which they wanted to travel and each boat would need to be gauged by the > canal owner or his agent. > There is no central location for any of these registers. I suppose legally > they all belong to British Waterways but you will find them in County record > Offices, small town libraries and Local History Centres and also in private > hands. for the Black Country you could try Sandwell Libary & Local Studies > Centre, Wolverhampton Archives ( the one in Snow Hill), and I know there are > some at Walsall as I have seen such. There are also some in the archives at > Gloucester Boat Musem > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gil. Hall <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 07 March 2000 15:54 > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Barnabas BEAUMONT. > > > >On the TV programme there was shown a 'Register of Canal Boats' and also a > >'Guage Register'. Can anyone say where these are held, and are they > >accessible > >to researchers? > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Canal Boats had to be registerd with the company that owned the canals along which they wanted to travel and each boat would need to be gauged by the canal owner or his agent. There is no central location for any of these registers. I suppose legally they all belong to British Waterways but you will find them in County record Offices, small town libraries and Local History Centres and also in private hands. for the Black Country you could try Sandwell Libary & Local Studies Centre, Wolverhampton Archives ( the one in Snow Hill), and I know there are some at Walsall as I have seen such. There are also some in the archives at Gloucester Boat Musem -----Original Message----- From: Gil. Hall <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 07 March 2000 15:54 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Barnabas BEAUMONT. > >On the TV programme there was shown a 'Register of Canal Boats' and also a >'Guage Register'. Can anyone say where these are held, and are they >accessible >to researchers?

These two web addresses appeared on the London-L and might be of use. For Thames Watermen and Lightermen http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/gh/water.htm http://members.aol.com/rjcindex/index.html Regards Julie Goucher [email protected]

Hello All, This is my first posting to your list. I had been wondering if there was such a list, but after watching 'Bloodties' on BBC2 last week, I decided to join your ranks. My great grandfather Barnabas BEAUMONT was, according to the 1851 census for Tipton, Staffs., a Boatman, aged 20, born in Madeley. (The 1881 census confirms this was the Shropshire Madeley). On the same census, his brother Philip, aged 12 was also a Boatman, born in Tipton. On the 1861 census for Tipton, Barnabas was still a Boatman, but had left the Waterways by the 1871 census. We know from my grandmothers Wedding Cert. ( being married in Scotland, there is more info. on their Certs.) that Barnabas married Elizabeth HOLDEN from West Bromwich. I have looked in the GRO marriage indexes for the marriage of Barnabas and Elizabeth but could only find reference to Barnabas and could not find an Elizabeth HOLDEN to match. Has anyone seen any reference to Barnabas elsewhere? Family oral tradition suggests that he may have been a bit too partial to alcohol, and relinquished his living on the Waterways. On the TV programme there was shown a 'Register of Canal Boats' and also a 'Guage Register'. Can anyone say where these are held, and are they accessible to researchers? Any information will be appreciated. Regards, Gil. Hall. Southampton, England Researching HALL, NBL / DUR; DENT, DUR; KING, BEW / NBL / DUR; STEWART, Edinburgh, MLN / DUR; WINTON, Musselburgh, MLN / STS; BEAUMONT, STS / SAL; HOLDEN (ING), STS; BEES, SOM. ANDERSON, NBL; DAVISON, NBL.

Hello Pat & Gil I haven't got a baptism but I've got a marraige - Harriet BOURNE (dau of John Bourne, boatman) m Edward Thomas TRUSS 11 Mar 1872 at St. Peters West brom The 1881 census says she was born in Wordsley Phil in Hales Owen -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hayward <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 05 March 2000 19:53 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re BOURNE >For years I have been looking for a Baptism for > >Phebe BOURNE circa 1810 Wordsley or Kingswinford. > >She married boatman David ALLPORT >at St Thomas, Dudley 8 Apl 1833.

For years I have been looking for a Baptism for Phebe BOURNE circa 1810 Wordsley or Kingswinford. She married boatman David ALLPORT at St Thomas, Dudley 8 Apl 1833. On various Census she gave her place of birth as both Wordsley & Kingswinford. Please can you help? Regards Pat & Gil.

----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Pennington <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: The Disley family > Hi Listers, > I am new to this list so I will post my research interests. My great great grandfather, great grandfather and grandfather have all worked as canal boatmen on the Leeds - Liverpool and Bridgewater canals. > My great great grandfather was William Disley born about 1814 at we think Halsall.He was of full age when he married Jane Fazakerley at Ormskirk Parish Church 23rd. March 1840. The fathers are shown on the certificate as William Disley , boatman and James Fazakerley, boatman. The witnesses were James Disley and George Wignall. We also know that William and Jane had at least two children, my great grandfather Thomas born 19th. December 1844 and James born 1st. February 1842 I would love to find out if there were any more children besides these two and also when and where William and Jane died.Also would William be likely to own his own boat or work for the L&L canal company or some other carrying company and would he be likely to own a cottage ashore because we know that the Disleys had relations living at Lathom. > > > > Regards to all, > Roy Pennington. >

I am seeking any information about William COX and/or John ROBERTS who were Boatmen in northern Staffordshire in the Tunstall area in the 1840s and 1850s. I am curious if they worked together or in close proximity. If someone can tell me where I might look for this information, that would be better. Thank you. Laura Bradley Groton Connecticut USA

How about this then!! And lots more, including scouts, Barnsley model railway society, and countless ones on Barnsley Football Club Barnsley Beer http://www.thebar.currantbun.com/camra/camra.htm Local Government Official site http://www.barnsley.gov.uk/ Barnsley Family History Society http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Ian_Townend/bfhs01.htm Another part of the Official Site http://www.barnsley.gov.uk/discover/attract/elsecar/ http://www.barnsley.co.uk/ Another local sights and tourist page http://www.ent1.demon.co.uk/yorkshire/barnsley/ A school page http://www.barnsleyweb.co.uk/school/ Barnsley Chronicle page http://www.barnsley-chronicle.co.uk/ Enjoy them all. I wish I could have found you a bit about the Barnsley Canal Society.....they exist, but don't have a web site. Perhaps there is some reference to them in those above. They are somewhere on the Inland Waterways Society page, which was in my earlier email. James Barlow ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pearce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Agbrigg > Hello James... > > May I impose and ask you for the Web URL of BARNSLEY ? My grdmthr. was > Annie Barnsley, b.c.1866, Oldbury, Worcester. > > Thanks in advance. > > James > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Thank you James......I will check out those web sites. Marg >Hi Marg, >Barnsley Canal was one of the 'residue' canals when the canals were >nationalised years ago, which meant it was abandoned, so perhaps British >

Hello James... May I impose and ask you for the Web URL of BARNSLEY ? My grdmthr. was Annie Barnsley, b.c.1866, Oldbury, Worcester. Thanks in advance. James

Hello Marg, A few years ago I had some correspondence with - Boat Museum Dockyard Road Ellesmere Port L65 4EF and found the archivist there extremely helpful. His name is Lynn Doylerush. he might be able to give you some pointers. They have a web site now. Try http://www.british-waterways.co.uk/default.asp?A7_3 If you can't find an e-mail address they have a fax number 0151 355 4079 Phil in Hales Owen -----Original Message----- From: Marg Cambridge <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 04 March 2000 02:23 Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Agbrigg >Hi, I am new to this list. If I am asking an inappropriate question for >this list please feel free to advise me,.....nicely please. > >Apparently in 1802 my 4 x gr grandfather Benjamin SHILLITO was appointed >"Lockkeeper and Receiver of the dues". He was granted a salary of 50 >guineas per annum and a house to live in by the Barnsley Canal >

Hi Marg, Barnsley Canal was one of the 'residue' canals when the canals were nationalised years ago, which meant it was abandoned, so perhaps British Waterways will not be able to help. Much of it disappeared...was filled in...etc. There is a canal society now which is intent on restoring the canal (with some changes in route where the old route was built over) and its adjoining canal, the Dove and Dearn. They would know a lot of the canals history, I imagine. I have had a look at the Barnsley web pages, but can't find any reference to the canal. You might find that one of the following will give you an address. The Barnsley Canal Society has no web site of its own. http://www.waterways.org.uk/iwa/ http://community-1.webtv.net/NeptuneGrpLLC/CANALSINLAND/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Cambridge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Agbrigg > Hi, I am new to this list. If I am asking an inappropriate question for > this list please feel free to advise me,.....nicely please. > > Apparently in 1802 my 4 x gr grandfather Benjamin SHILLITO was appointed > "Lockkeeper and Receiver of the dues". He was granted a salary of 50 > guineas per annum and a house to live in by the Barnsley Canal Navigation > Company. Benjamin's lock was at Agbrigg and he maintained this position > until his death in 1820. > > Does anyone have any history on this particular lock or be able to advise me > where I could write for more info. > > Thank you, > Marg > Mission, B.C., Canada > > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >