Laura, I tried to send to you today on the address quoted on your message of 12 Mar titled "[CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: ALLEN" but I got a "Postmaster - Undeliverable Mail" message as a result. Can you let me have your direct address, please, and I'll re-send? Sorry about this everybody - I TRY not to clutter your inboxes with non-general messages - but it obviously doesn't always work! Gus Tysoe, Droitwich, Worcs Linear-Salt-Lake City

Reposting my interest! GGGrandfather George,GGrandfather Henry & Great uncle Edward HELEY worked on the canals at Mirfield (Calder &Hebble) & later at Goole (canal name?) until 1845 when Henry & family came to Canada Seeking any information or leads Thanks in advance Larry HEALEY Campbellford,Ontario Canada (On the Trent canal)

I am new to the list and re-sending my surname interests which did not appear to get through via digest mode yesterday William BROMAGE (b. 1850, Leicester) and his brother Charles BROMAGE (b.1853, Leicester) ran their own barge or barges mainly along the Oxford canal. Their father William BROMAGE, also a bargeman, was born in Warwick in the 1820s, and I have always been told that the family originates from there. William BROMAGE (the younger) married Sarah SHILCOCK at Holy Trinity Coventry in 1873. Sarah's father William SHILCOCK (b. 1829, Leicester) was also a barge boatman. The Shilcocks seem to have been based around Bedworth. William and Sarah BROMAGE had 13 children, and their youngest son Arthur (b. 1892) was my grandfather. In later years the Bromage family settled in Coventry and the children went into different occupations. Also researching GETTINGS/GITTINGS in Bedworth/Walsgrave, near Coventry, and HAROLD and variants in Warwick. I do not know if they were canal families but they married into the BROMAGE and SHILCOCK families above. Please contact me if you recognise anyone! Sian Jennings [email protected]

In my previous posting to the list, I omitted to mention that John Killcross and the Swift would be in Cheshire around Runcorn. He and Ellen were married near Winwick. I think the cargo would have been salt. Elizabeth Wright <[email protected]>

I do not recognise any links with my families. WILLIAM HARRIS m ANN KYTE daughter HARRIET HARRIS b.1839 m JAMES HAMBRIDGE (b.1842) IN 1859. daughter Sarah Hambridge m Arthur Simpson. but i will keep your mesage on file. I actually live in Walsgrave (now part of Coventry) not far from the canal Margaret

Hi Eilleen What sort of date was your William? I've not delved too deeply into Tewkesbury's registers as yet, and so far, at least, haven't come across a Richard & Elizabeth, but I (I'd got as far as this last night before the little bell on the oven pinged, and I went downstairs to eat - and then slept... On logging-on this morning, to my total bemusement, I found the following in my inbox: "Looking at Daniel [ALLEN -my Other Correspondent's Ancestor]'s parents and siblings I wondered if Richard may be Joseph's brother. Well acc to the IGi Joseph and Mary Allen had: William 1765 Thomas 1766 Joseph 1768 William 1770 Jane 1773 Robert 1776 Molly 1778 Richard 1780 John 1783 Richard married Elizabeth Milton - does that name ring a bell on 5 March 1804 at Tewkesbury. So it looks as if it is poss that two brothers married two sisters." So it looks as if a trip to Gloucester to delve deep is called for! Will go Today... I'm afraid this is Very Disjointed - but it looks very much as if there IS a link after all. I'll try to Get Organised, and then get back to you when in a state of real coherence! Cheers, Gus Tysoe Droitwich (not a million miles from Tewkesbury where my line of TYSOEs stayed for their statutory 50 years before changing counties again...) -----Original Message----- From: Eilleen Ovenden <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 13 March 2000 10:51 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Allens >Hi Gus >Saw your note about your Allens from Tewkesbury. I also have Allens at >Tewkesbury who were boatmen. >Mine is William parents Richard/Elizabeth, do you think we have a >connection here? >Eilleen >Sunshine Coast >Queensland, Australia.

Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and was wondering if anyone has come across the SWIFT or its Captain John Killcross. John Killcross married Ellen Flitcroft in Dec. 1822 and this was listed as his occupation in the parish record of his marriage and the birth of his daughter Mary. It also seems to have been his residence. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Elizabeth Wright <[email protected]>

The following was originally posted to the Oxfordshire list and is posted here with the permission of the original writer. Paul Betteridge of the Oxfordshire list wrote: The company was authorized by Act of Parliament in 1769. The canal ran from near Coventry to Oxford. It joined the Coventry Canal at Longford junction. While construction in the northern section went reasonably well, the canal was only constructed as far as Banbury when the original money ran out and the pressures of the American War of Independence made things difficult. The section from Banbury to Oxford was opened on 1st January 1790. Coal was a (the?) major cargo of the canal. The canal is still there, but only used for pleasure now. The basin in Oxford has been filled in. Stephanie (of the Oxfordshire list, JG) sent this link (to the British Waterways site) to the list earlier this year: http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/ There is a page on the Oxford canal: http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/default.asp?B43inter and you can get at more detailed maps of the canal by following the links. You will certainly want to look through the list archives for other messages about the canal: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (plain search) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ (threaded archives) Hope you find this of use Regards Julie Goucher [email protected]

Hi to everyone, I am new to this list. I am looking for anyone who is researching the Wood and Ball families, who came from Twyning in Gloucestershire, and worked the Birmingham canals. My great grandfathers family were boatmen, as were his parents family. I have the following info so far William Wood , mate aboard the "Ellen on Twyning" in 1861 William Wood, aboard the "Speedwell" 1881 Robert Wood, aboard the "Ely" 1881 Arthur Ball, master of the "Emma" 1891 Thomas Ball, aboard the "Emma" 1891 Robert Wood, captain of the "Elizabeth" 1881 Arthur Wood, mate aboard the "Elizabeth" 1881 Robert Wood, master of the "Ernest" 1891 Robert Wood Jnr, aboard the "Ernest" 1891 My great grandfather was Robert Wood, who died in 1905 after falling into the canal and catching pneumonia. If anyone has any info on any of the before mentioned boats, or any Wood or Ball fmaily members, I would love to hear form you Regards, Zean in South Australia

Hello everyone! I just subscribed to this list. I am looking for Levi Henry WRIGHT b1867? (but christened in 1893?!) in Rock, WOR, m Ann BORASTON b 1871? Levi's father was Silas, and Ann's father was William. I have other info if needed. I believe they lived in Cookley but may be elsewhere too. Thanks for any help. Susan.

Hi listers looking for a THOMAS HAND , BOATMAN from birkenhead cheshire in 1891 census any info would be grateful also JAMES HANDS a waterman FROM DUDLEY living in birkenhead in 1881 census thanks from frank

Someone was asking about Richard GRIFFITHS a while ago. Is this the one? 1891 Census, Wednesbury, Staffordshire. RG12 / 2256-7 64 Great Western Street, GRIFFITHS Richard (Head) m 28 Canal boatman GRIFFITHS Rachel (Wife) m 37 GRIFFITHS Mary Eliz. 19 Tailoress GRIFFITHS Joshua 18 Gen. Lab'r. GRIFFITHS Floence Louisa 15 Tailoress GRIFFITHS Edith 13 GRIFFITHS Richard 11 Scholar GRIFFITHS James 8 Scholar All born Wednesbury STS. Regards Pat & Gil.

Thank you; Thank You; THANK YOU!! You've made my day/week/year. These are mine; I'd recognize them anywhere. Now that you've completed my family tree for me, what will I do with all my newfound free time?? Gratefully, Carol in California

Hi Gus Saw your note about your Allens from Tewkesbury. I also have Allens at Tewkesbury who were boatmen. Mine is William parents Richard/Elizabeth, do you think we have a connection here? Eilleen Sunshine Coast Queensland, Australia.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Henley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 11 March 2000 16:10 Subject: ARE THESE YOUR MISSING LINKS?? > Hi List, > Could not resist passing these on [from 1881 census], found whilst looking for someone else! > Cheers > > John Henley > > Dwelling: In Field > Census Place: Iver, Buckingham, England > Source: FHL Film 1341353 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1457 Folio 30 Page 30 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > (NK) (NK) 26 M Rel: Tramp (Head) Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 23 F Rel: Tramp Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 1 F > (NK) (NK) 43 M Rel: Tramp (Head) Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 33 M Rel: Tramp Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 30 M Rel: Tramp (Head) Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 28 F Rel: Tramp Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 36 M Rel: Tramp (Head) Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 29 F Rel: Tramp Occ: Tramp > (NK) (NK) 3 M > (NK) (NK) 36 M Rel: Bargeman (Head) Occ: Bargeman > (NK) (NK) 28 M Rel: Bargeman Occ: Bargeman > (NK) (NK) 40 M Rel: Bargeman Occ: Bargeman > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Ron O'Neill <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: missing people > I am researcing the Hoopers and Lawleys from W-ton Brierley Hill and Bloxwuich? They move around a lot in 1800;s I think they may have connections with canal people. I have found mentions of ;The Leys Brockmoor Bridge ;and Juxta Aston .Any help you can give on tracing these elusive people will be gratefully received Carol >

Hello Laura, I didn't really expect he would have been 'my' lost Thomas Allen - but it'd 've been nice if he had! Thanks all the same Gus

Hello Gus, I do not think my Thomas ALLEN is your man. He was born in Ipstones in 1823, son of John ALLEN and Sarah WARDLE. Laura Bradley Groton Connecticut USA Answer to: Hello Laura, My Boatmen ALLENs started off at Tewkesbury, on the River Severn, halfway between Worcester & Gloucester - but they were Wide-Beam folk by and large. However, I've a 'missing' Thomas, born 1816 at Tewkesbury - and while I doubt very much if he's 'yours', it's worth a try? If ever you get over here, try for a trip on the Caldon - it's one of the most beautiful canals I know. (Despite doing it in rain - and snow - and with Insufficient rations!) Gus Tysoe Droitwich, Worcestershire Linear-Salt-Lake City

Hi Laura, Source: http://www.familytree.swinternet.co.uk/ Location: Jim Crows Canal. William Griffiths. Husband. 46. Captain, barge. Wednesbury. Staffs. Charlotte. Wife. 36. Wolverhampton. Staffs. Harriet. daug. 10. ditto. Mary Ann. daug. 6. ditto. Elizabeth. daug. 3. ditto Haven't yet completed the list. Will let you know if any other names 'float by'. Regards, Tony.

Hello Laura, My Boatmen ALLENs started off at Tewkesbury, on the River Severn, halfway between Worcester & Gloucester - but they were Wide-Beam folk by and large. However, I've a 'missing' Thomas, born 1816 at Tewkesbury - and while I doubt very much if he's 'yours', it's worth a try? If ever you get over here, try for a trip on the Caldon - it's one of the most beautiful canals I know. (Despite doing it in rain - and snow - and with Insufficient rations!) Gus Tysoe Droitwich, Worcestershire Linear-Salt-Lake City From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 11 March 2000 22:27 >I have ALLENs from Ipstones near the beginning of the Cauldon Canal. Thomas >ALLEN was some type of furnace man for ironworks. I am trying to find out if >any of his sons were boatmen. Their names were: James b. abt. 1848: John b. >abt. 1856; and Alfred b. abt. 1861. Thanks > >Laura Bradley >Groton Connecticut