Hi Sylvia, What is the address of the Mariner's list for subscribing? Thanks John Poxon <snip> > You said your ancestors were 'seamen'. They could actually have been at sea, > and you may not see them on census. There is also a MARINERS list which has > a lot of very useful information. You join it in the same way as you did > with CANAL-PEOPLE

I am looking for any photographs of the SSYN taken in the Rotherham area. My grandfather, my father and mother, and all of my paternal uncles worked on this canal. I grew up with the canal on one side of the house and the River Don on the other - a real waterbaby, eh? On the SSYN we had the very large barges not the narrowboats as I see down here in Gas Street Basin (Birmingham). If anyone does have any photographs, I would be more than happy to pay for copies to be taken. When growing up, unlike most other children who used to catch a bus or tram to visit family, I used to hitch a ride on a barge. What a way to grow up. The canal is hard 'mother and father', as at an early age one learnt the dangers of getting too close to the edge - watching whilst the police dragged the bottom looking for a body - and the feelings when a body was found. But on the lighter side, what an adventure playground, and such a large extended family. We always felt safe with the bargees and their families. I still have the old china boot that Dad bought for us to collect the pennies the bargees used to throw when the bridge was opened. These pennies were hoarded, and just before our holidays the Kilnhurst Co-op man used to change them into half-crowns, two bob pieces or even a ten-bob note! And, may I add, that I'm not exactly Methuselah, even though I must sound like it after the reminiscing!! What a brilliant listing. Regards Sammy

In a message dated 20/03/00 03:46:32 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I am after information "anything" about it all, I think some of my lot may > have been working on the Canals as I can't find them on any Census. I know > they called their occupation "seamen" but don't know where until I read > about men who worked on the Canals and took their families with them. > You said your ancestors were 'seamen'. They could actually have been at sea, and you may not see them on census. There is also a MARINERS list which has a lot of very useful information. You join it in the same way as you did with CANAL-PEOPLE Good searching, Sylvia Looking for: WHITEHOUSE Oxford/Berks/Warks/Wilts EACOTT Berks/Bristol EMENS/HEMENS Berks FRENCH Berks COPPUCK/COPPOCK Oxford/Berks

Hi all I'm new to all of this, I have been reading everyone's email and loving it. I have been researching Family History for near 20 years and have just learned about Canal people. I am after information "anything" about it all, I think some of my lot may have been working on the Canals as I can't find them on any Census. I know they called their occupation "seamen" but don't know where until I read about men who worked on the Canals and took their families with them. My question to you all is, how can I find out about the Canal's around England, the people who worked them, is there a book ? on micro fiche ? film ? most of all is there a special Census for these people ?? I know each child born, stating they were in the East End of London, but they do not turn up anywhere on Census, and I sure have looked at many films. So my thoughts are maybe they lived and worked these barges on the Canals and when the woman was say 8 months along having the baby, she got off, hence the address on the birth certificate !! These Canal people are starting to make sense to me as to where my lot "may have got to", just a thought. So hope one of you can answer me in some way, it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Marrianne [email protected]

Hello listers, I have been a lurker for sometime now so I have decided to post my interests. Joel Davis, aged 14 in 1881, when he was living at 3, Great Bridge St., Minshaw Buildings. West Bromwich. He worked for Thomas Bantock of Wolverhampton for many years. Family legend has it that he had the first all metal (Steel or Aluminium ??) boat in the midlands. The boat was named "The Triumph" Any information greatfully received. Doreen Petch

Could be the Erewash Canal or the Nottingham Canal There are houses not far from the canal at many points. Can't remember the names of many of the locks. As a child my sister - who was a very strong swimmer - would swim from lock to lock, she would threaten me not to tell my parents - of course they knew because her hair stank of the canal - she still blamed me. LOL Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Poxon <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 6:42 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Drowning at Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, 1880-1895 > Hi everyone, > > I have joined this list because of my interest in solving a family mystery. > > My grandmother Eliza Hannah MEAKIN was born at Eastwood in 1875. My mother > recounted how Eliza once told her that Eliza's brother was drowned in the > nearby canal lock. He was " brought from the canal lock to the house with > water streaming from him.". I presume that the lock is on the canal at > Eastwood. > > Can anyone help me by answering the following questions? > > What is the name of the canal at Eastwood? > Is there a lock at Eastwood? > Were there a row of houses nearby? > Was there a lock house? > Does the List know of an actual drowning in the lock in the period > mentioned? > > I would be grateful any information or suggestions related to this accident. > > Regards > > John Poxon > > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi everyone, I have joined this list because of my interest in solving a family mystery. My grandmother Eliza Hannah MEAKIN was born at Eastwood in 1875. My mother recounted how Eliza once told her that Eliza's brother was drowned in the nearby canal lock. He was " brought from the canal lock to the house with water streaming from him.". I presume that the lock is on the canal at Eastwood. Can anyone help me by answering the following questions? What is the name of the canal at Eastwood? Is there a lock at Eastwood? Were there a row of houses nearby? Was there a lock house? Does the List know of an actual drowning in the lock in the period mentioned? I would be grateful any information or suggestions related to this accident. Regards John Poxon

Edward READING (boatman) married 26/11/1826 Holy Trinity Coventry Selina Clarridge. By May 1834 a Removal Order states Selina is a widow with a son Joseph abt 3yo. Any information would be greatly appreciated Cheers from a very stumped Peter

Are there any people on the list with the surname PEACH.

Did you spot the not so deliberate mistake?!! One keen eyed lister did, many thanks for pointing the error out. I have reposted the message correctly, for those of you who are going to print or file it safely!! Now of enjoy the Devonshire sun! Regards Julie Goucher [email protected]

Hello Listers Please can you ALL note the following information and can I ask you to keep a copy of this email for futher reference if you have any uncertainty about this topic. I know it can be a little confusing but there are 2 important addresses: (1) [email protected] (for mail mode subscribers) OR [email protected] (for digest mode subscribers) is the address to send notices only about joining or leaving the mailing list ie. subscribe or unsubscribe. These messages are dealt with by a computer program at Rootweb and add or delete people from the list of Hampshire Mailing List members automatically. You should not need to send anything to this address again until you want to leave the mailing list. You subscribe or unsubscribe by sending your message to whichever address in (2) applies to you. Keep the subject line blank and put "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" (without the quote marks) in the main message window. (2) [email protected] is the address EVERYBODY should use to send messages to everyone else in the CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List. This address applies, regardless of whether you are in mail mode (each message comes as a separate email) or in digest mode (messages come batched together in a once daily email). If you send your genealogy message to address (1) it will not reach anyone else on the mailing list. It will come to my rejects box and will not be posted to the list. I have, in the past forwarded messages, but this has started your replies coming to me and that does not help your research! So please can everyone make an effort to use the correct addresses. Regards Julie Goucher [email protected]

Hello Listers Please can you ALL note the following information and can I ask you to keep a copy of this email for futher reference if you have any uncertainty about this topic. I know it can be a little confusing but there are 2 important addresses: (1) [email protected] (for mail mode subscribers) OR [email protected] (for digest mode subscribers) is the address to send notices only about joining or leaving the mailing list ie. subscribe or unsubscribe. These messages are dealt with by a computer program at Rootweb and add or delete people from the list of Hampshire Mailing List members automatically. You should not need to send anything to this address again until you want to leave the mailing list. You subscribe or unsubscribe by sending your message to whichever address in (2) applies to you. Keep the subject line blank and put "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" (without the quote marks) in the main message window. (2) [email protected] is the address EVERYBODY should use to send messages to everyone else in the CANAL-PEOPLE Mailing List. This address applies, regardless of whether you are in mail mode (each message comes as a separate email) or in digest mode (messages come batched together in a once daily email). If you send your genealogy message to address (1) it will not reach anyone else on the mailing list. It will come to my rejects box and will not be posted to the list. I have, in the past forwarded messages, but this has started your replies coming to me and that does not help your research! So please can everyone make an effort to use the correct addresses. Regards Julie Goucher [email protected]

Forwarding! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bubbles <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 7:20 AM Subject: Lydells > I am interested in the name of Lydell, recorded 1851 in Beeston occupation > Boat people. Any information gratefully received. > Bubbles from Robin Hood Country. > ----- Original Message ----- > >

I saw this on another List but thought it might interest you folks. -----Original Message----- From: David Lewis Paget <[email protected] > On the Cartwright side of my family, a son of my great grandfather was >a draughtsman and engineer, lived at Ocker Hill, and worked at Tipton. >He worked for the Birmingham Canal Navigation Co., later taken over by the >London, Midland and Scottish Railway Co. (LMS), to incorporate rail and >canal transport. > As you know the midlands was riddled with canals and at strategic >places they had pumping stations to pump the water back up above the locks. >This Harry Cartwright worked at one of these pumping stations at Tipton, >where they had two huge pumping engines called Tangyes. Along with the >pumping engines there was an engineering workshops where there were >boilermakers, blacksmiths, boat builders, carpenters - every trade you can >think of. Harry Cartwright was the deputy boss of this place. > Just thought you might be interested. >David >Wallaroo, South Australia. > >______________________________

Hi Listers, This is my first time of asking. Has anybody any information of any of the three BRADE locks in the Birmingham Canal? Who were they named after or, where can I get any information from? Any help would be appreciated. Lily [email protected] Looking for BRADE anywhere, anytime.

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: Eilleen Ovenden <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 3:22 AM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Allens Tewkesbury > Hi Gus > Yippee, yes I have tentatively got William the son of Richard and > Elizabeth Milton, but was slightly confused as there is another possible > marriage for Richard to Elizabeth Hunt. Children for Richard which I > extracted from the film total 14!! Possibly two families. Don't know. > Couldn't find a burial for Richard so was hard pressed to go back > further. My William was bp 1806 in Tewkesbury and definately a > waterman. > His male children were called Joseph Charles George and Richard, so > there are definate possibilites here I would say. > That you are off to Gloucestershire, in pursuit, is wonderful. Let's > hope it all works out or should I say in. > We all get disorientated at times and can quite understand how you > feel!! > I am sure Droitwich is where they found the "Spry" which has been > renovated and is now sitting in the Bliss Open Air Museum. The Spry was > once owned by the Rice family. They originally came from Tewkesbury and > I am also descended from them. > Joseph Rice Transport, still based in Gloucester and operating on the > roads now, is the same family. > Best of luck in Gloucester. > Eilleen in Australia > > > > > > Gus Tysoe > > Droitwich (not a million miles from Tewkesbury where my line of TYSOEs > > stayed for their statutory 50 years before changing counties again...) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eilleen Ovenden <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Date: 13 March 2000 10:51 > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Allens > > > > >Hi Gus > > >Saw your note about your Allens from Tewkesbury. I also have Allens at > > >Tewkesbury who were boatmen. > > >Mine is William parents Richard/Elizabeth, do you think we have a > > >connection here? > > >Eilleen > > >Sunshine Coast > > >Queensland, Australia. > > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Oxford Canal Company > > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:44:16 -0000 > > From: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > > > The following was originally posted to the Oxfordshire list and is posted > > here with the permission of the original writer. > > > > Paul Betteridge of the Oxfordshire list wrote: > > > > The company was authorized by Act of Parliament in 1769. The canal > > ran from near Coventry to Oxford. It joined the Coventry Canal at > > Longford junction. While construction in the northern section went > > reasonably well, the canal was only constructed as far as Banbury > > when the original money ran out and the pressures of the American > > War of Independence made things difficult. The section from Banbury > > to Oxford was opened on 1st January 1790. > > > > Coal was a (the?) major cargo of the canal. > > > > The canal is still there, but only used for pleasure now. The basin > > in Oxford has been filled in. > > > > Stephanie (of the Oxfordshire list, JG) sent this link (to the British > > Waterways site) to the > > list earlier this year: > > http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/ > > > > There is a page on the Oxford canal: > > http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/default.asp?B43inter > > and you can get at more detailed maps of the canal by > > following the links. > > > > You will certainly want to look through the list archives > > for other messages about the canal: > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (plain search) > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ (threaded archives) > > > > Hope you find this of use > > > > Regards > > Julie Goucher > > [email protected] > > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] JOHN KILLCROSS - THE FLAT "SWIFT" > > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:00:51 -0500 > > From: "John And Elizabeth Wright" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > > > In my previous posting to the list, I omitted to mention that John Killcross and the Swift would be in Cheshire around Runcorn. He and Ellen were married near WinwicXX-Mozilla-Status: 0009ould have been salt. > > > > Elizabeth Wright > > <[email protected]> > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi listers, I need information about Edwin Gould who fell and drowned in diglis canal basin in Worcester in 1870 to 1886. Anyone know he work for? and are he digging coals out of canal boat. Are there records like newpaper reported it? regards steven gould

Charles and Sian Jennings wrote: > > I am new to the list and re-sending my surname interests which did not appear to get through via digest mode yesterday > > William BROMAGE (b. 1850, Leicester) and his brother Charles BROMAGE (b.1853, Leicester) ran their own barge or barges mainly along the Oxford canal. Their father William BROMAGE, also a bargeman, was born in Warwick in the 1820s, and I have always been told that the family originates from there. > William BROMAGE (the younger) married Sarah SHILCOCK at Holy Trinity Coventry in 1873. Sarah's father William SHILCOCK (b. 1829, Leicester) was also a barge boatman. The Shilcocks seem to have been based around Bedworth. > William and Sarah BROMAGE had 13 children, and their youngest son Arthur (b. 1892) was my grandfather. In later years the Bromage family settled in Coventry and the children went into different occupations. > > Also researching GETTINGS/GITTINGS in Bedworth/Walsgrave, near Coventry, and HAROLD and variants in Warwick. I do not know if they were canal families but they married into the BROMAGE and SHILCOCK families above. > > Please contact me if you recognise anyone! > Sian Jennings > [email protected] > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ Sian, I don't have a direct connection with the SHILLCOCK name, but I have come across it in relation to my Bedworth/Foleshill based maternal CHAMBERLAIN family. My Great Aunt, Louisa Catherine CHAMBERLAIN (1883-1975) married Edward Henry WELTON (1880-1928). Edward's sister, Charlotte WELTON (1877-1933) was married to Alexander SHILLCOCK. I do have a few bits of information on the family, including records of their burials in Coventry Cemetery, if you would like to have them. I believe Alexander SHILLOCK's father was Harby SHILLCOCK a barge boatman and is listed in the 1881 Census for 5 Brewery Street, Holy Trinity. Best wishes Carole (Sheffield)

Hi Gus Yippee, yes I have tentatively got William the son of Richard and Elizabeth Milton, but was slightly confused as there is another possible marriage for Richard to Elizabeth Hunt. Children for Richard which I extracted from the film total 14!! Possibly two families. Don't know. Couldn't find a burial for Richard so was hard pressed to go back further. My William was bp 1806 in Tewkesbury and definately a waterman. His male children were called Joseph Charles George and Richard, so there are definate possibilites here I would say. That you are off to Gloucestershire, in pursuit, is wonderful. Let's hope it all works out or should I say in. We all get disorientated at times and can quite understand how you feel!! I am sure Droitwich is where they found the "Spry" which has been renovated and is now sitting in the Bliss Open Air Museum. The Spry was once owned by the Rice family. They originally came from Tewkesbury and I am also descended from them. Joseph Rice Transport, still based in Gloucester and operating on the roads now, is the same family. Best of luck in Gloucester. Eilleen in Australia > > Gus Tysoe > Droitwich (not a million miles from Tewkesbury where my line of TYSOEs > stayed for their statutory 50 years before changing counties again...) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eilleen Ovenden <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 13 March 2000 10:51 > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Allens > > >Hi Gus > >Saw your note about your Allens from Tewkesbury. I also have Allens at > >Tewkesbury who were boatmen. > >Mine is William parents Richard/Elizabeth, do you think we have a > >connection here? > >Eilleen > >Sunshine Coast > >Queensland, Australia. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Oxford Canal Company > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:44:16 -0000 > From: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > The following was originally posted to the Oxfordshire list and is posted > here with the permission of the original writer. > > Paul Betteridge of the Oxfordshire list wrote: > > The company was authorized by Act of Parliament in 1769. The canal > ran from near Coventry to Oxford. It joined the Coventry Canal at > Longford junction. While construction in the northern section went > reasonably well, the canal was only constructed as far as Banbury > when the original money ran out and the pressures of the American > War of Independence made things difficult. The section from Banbury > to Oxford was opened on 1st January 1790. > > Coal was a (the?) major cargo of the canal. > > The canal is still there, but only used for pleasure now. The basin > in Oxford has been filled in. > > Stephanie (of the Oxfordshire list, JG) sent this link (to the British > Waterways site) to the > list earlier this year: > http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/ > > There is a page on the Oxford canal: > http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/default.asp?B43inter > and you can get at more detailed maps of the canal by > following the links. > > You will certainly want to look through the list archives > for other messages about the canal: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (plain search) > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ (threaded archives) > > Hope you find this of use > > Regards > Julie Goucher > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] JOHN KILLCROSS - THE FLAT "SWIFT" > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:00:51 -0500 > From: "John And Elizabeth Wright" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > In my previous posting to the list, I omitted to mention that John Killcross and the Swift would be in Cheshire around Runcorn. He and Ellen were married near WinwicXX-Mozilla-Status: 0009ould have been salt. > > Elizabeth Wright > <[email protected]>

Hi Gus Yippee, yes I have tentatively got William the son of Richard and Elizabeth Milton, but was slightly confused as there is another possible marriage for Richard to Elizabeth Hunt. Children for Richard which I extracted from the film total 14!! Possibly two families. Don't know. Couldn't find a burial for Richard so was hard pressed to go back further. My William was bp 1806 in Tewkesbury and definately a waterman. His male children were called Joseph Charles George and Richard, so there are definate possibilites here I would say. That you are off to Gloucestershire, in pursuit, is wonderful. Let's hope it all works out or should I say in. We all get disorientated at times and can quite understand how you feel!! I am sure Droitwich is where they found the "Spry" which has been renovated and is now sitting in the Bliss Open Air Museum. The Spry was once owned by the Rice family. They originally came from Tewkesbury and I am also descended from them. Joseph Rice Transport, still based in Gloucester and operating on the roads now, is the same family. Best of luck in Gloucester. Eilleen in Australia > > Gus Tysoe > Droitwich (not a million miles from Tewkesbury where my line of TYSOEs > stayed for their statutory 50 years before changing counties again...) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eilleen Ovenden <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 13 March 2000 10:51 > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Re: Allens > > >Hi Gus > >Saw your note about your Allens from Tewkesbury. I also have Allens at > >Tewkesbury who were boatmen. > >Mine is William parents Richard/Elizabeth, do you think we have a > >connection here? > >Eilleen > >Sunshine Coast > >Queensland, Australia. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Oxford Canal Company > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:44:16 -0000 > From: "Mrs Julie Goucher" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > The following was originally posted to the Oxfordshire list and is posted > here with the permission of the original writer. > > Paul Betteridge of the Oxfordshire list wrote: > > The company was authorized by Act of Parliament in 1769. The canal > ran from near Coventry to Oxford. It joined the Coventry Canal at > Longford junction. While construction in the northern section went > reasonably well, the canal was only constructed as far as Banbury > when the original money ran out and the pressures of the American > War of Independence made things difficult. The section from Banbury > to Oxford was opened on 1st January 1790. > > Coal was a (the?) major cargo of the canal. > > The canal is still there, but only used for pleasure now. The basin > in Oxford has been filled in. > > Stephanie (of the Oxfordshire list, JG) sent this link (to the British > Waterways site) to the > list earlier this year: > http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/ > > There is a page on the Oxford canal: > http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/default.asp?B43inter > and you can get at more detailed maps of the canal by > following the links. > > You will certainly want to look through the list archives > for other messages about the canal: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl (plain search) > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ (threaded archives) > > Hope you find this of use > > Regards > Julie Goucher > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] JOHN KILLCROSS - THE FLAT "SWIFT" > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:00:51 -0500 > From: "John And Elizabeth Wright" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > In my previous posting to the list, I omitted to mention that John Killcross and the Swift would be in Cheshire around Runcorn. He and Ellen were married near Winwick. I think the cargo would have been salt. > > Elizabeth Wright > <[email protected]>