As a new subcriber to this list I would like to post the names I am interested in: My interest is on canal boat families on the Leeds-Liverpool Canal. Thomas RUDDUCK b 1 4 1906 (somewhere on the Leeds-Liverpool canal) m 4 8 1933 Gladys BENTHAM in Parbold (Lancs) His best friend Thomas CHEETHAM m 4 8 1933 Lilly BENTHAM in Parbold His parents also Thomas RUDDUCK m Ellen HESKETH in Newburgh (Lancs)? Interested in any reference to RUDDUCK, CHEETHAM on the Leeds Liverpool Canal & HESKETH, BENTHAM in Parbold, Burscough area of Lancashire. I would be very grateful for any information or suggestions. Thanks Adrian Pearson in Barcelona (Spain) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Thanks Phil,I have tried some but will try somemore. Myrtle -----Original Message----- From: Phil Lamb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] 1881 census Hello Myrtle, Have you tried all the spelling variations of the name you are interested in ? S can look like capital L, F look like T etc Phil in Hales Owen >Hello! >Can someone please tell me where I can find people, who were living on the canal in London, on the Mormon 1881 census CDs? >tia, >Best Wishes, >Myrtle ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hi! The Big Question is WHEN? I'm chasing two quite unconnected ALLEN families in the UK - one lot were Watermen on the Severn River and the Wide Canals, roughly 1820-1890, while the others built boats for for our Narrow Canals from around 1880-1995. There are more than a few from Both Trees who 'just disappeared' - quite possibly to Your Neck of the Woods... But none of those I've so far found had "I" to start their first names - or their mothers, come to that. Gus Tyspe Droitwich, Worcs Linear-Salt-Lake City -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 26 June 2000 15:09 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] I. ALLEN on the Erie Canal >My ancestor owned a boat on the Erie Canal around Oswego and Oneida Counties. > It was called the I.ALLEN. Does anyone have any idea where I can get >information on this? Thanks [email protected] > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hello Myrtle, Have you tried all the spelling variations of the name you are interested in ? S can look like capital L, F look like T etc Phil in Hales Owen >Hello! >Can someone please tell me where I can find people, who were living on the canal in London, on the Mormon 1881 census CDs? >tia, >Best Wishes, >Myrtle

My ancestor owned a boat on the Erie Canal around Oswego and Oneida Counties. It was called the I.ALLEN. Does anyone have any idea where I can get information on this? Thanks [email protected]

Hello all! I found the following while searching Rootsweb.com in the Wayne County, Pennsylvania Forum: Died Under Suspicious Circumstances Posted by RICHARD J. KANE <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> on Mon, 28 Jun 1999 Surname: Kane Does anyone have any information regarding a suspicious death on the Delaware & Hudson Canal in Honesdale, Pa around April, 1861? Something that might be in some of your own ancestors' records. The name of the victim was John Kane. ~The Kanes of N.E. Pennsylvania <http://www.monmouth.com/rjkane/index.html> . I was especially interested because oral history in my family told of a Simon O'Kane or O'Cain who worked on "the canal" and was involved in a murder. The family name was subsequently changed to "Kane." I have not been able to reach the author of the query, so I have no other details. Moreover, in researching my family tree, I can find no trace of a Simon at all. I'd be interested in hearing any details of this incident or anything that might relate to "Simon!" The Kanes eventually settled in Elmira, NY, where "Simon's" grandson, Thomas F. Kane (born 1892), was a conductor on the DL&W railroad. They say his parents were Michael Kane and Hanna Ryan. The Kanes were a poor Irish family that lived on the edge--it's very difficult to find out anything! Plus, I'm located in Nebraska and do not have access to records! Please help! Thanks! E. Kane Bugs

Hi List I am a new subscriber to the Canal People list. I have Hannah NEVITT marrying Joseph HEWITT in 1848 in Grantham. On their marriage certificate both gave their occupations as Boatman. Hannah's father Joseph NEVITT was a Beer Seller at the Hand & Heart in Wharf Road Grantham. Can SKS give me any advice on how to track this couple down. I have not found them in the 1881 census although Hannah would have been about 60. She had a son Joseph Lyne NEVITT who was born in 1844; his father was Joseph LYNE, a grocer. Hannah did not marry the boy's father. Regards Colin West Sussex

Hi all, I will be visiting my old hometown (Northwich) & environs this October & would like to go to the Ellesmere Port Museum, Is it open in October? I know this is the off season, that is why I will be home then. ;-) Does the museum have a website? Cheers, Jim Thompson.

Dear Kate I tried to send this off line but it didn't get through. I am also researching this family for my cousin Sarah Ann Brown known as Peggy she is the daughter of Richard Humphries and Sarah Ann Stokes. Sarah Ann Stokes was the daughter of James Stokes and Olive Cutler, I have a birth date for Olive Cutler 12/09/1858 daughter of William Cutler and Sarah Ann Dudley I have not confirmed this with a birth certificate it is an entry in a bible belonging to Peggy. I also have a copy of the 1871 census for Bugbrooke Northants Vessels on the Canal. Vessel Bonnie Lassie William Cutler head mar 36 Captain of Vessel Halesowen Worcester Sarah A " Wife " 34 Oldbury " Olive " Dau 13 Longford looks like gloster not very clear 1881 census 15 court Lionell st Birmingham Warwick William Cutler Head M 44 waterman wks Halesowen Worcs Sarah Ann " Wife M 42 Dudley " Olive " Dau M 23 dressmaker Oldbury Warwick William " G Son 2 Runcorn Cheshire Samuel T " " 7m " " Richard Humphries was my grandmother Mary Jane Theobald half brother though she was bought up and married with the name of Humphries. Children of James Stokes and Oliver Cutler George 05/02/1883 Tipton Staffs Sarah Ann 14/03/1885 Tipton Staffs married Richard Humphries 26/12/1907 Braunston Northants James 26/03/1887 Tipton Staffs married Emma Green nee Atkins 05/08/1929 Braunston Northants Edward 26/03/1889 Tipton Staffs married Rose Edwards 07/08/1916 Braunston Northants Olive 23/11/1892 married James Arthur Knibbs 21/05/1915 Braunston Northants Florry 12/06/1895 Tipton Staffs I did not know of your grandfather Arthur, I hope this is of some use to you, You may already have some of it. I do have other bits and pieces ie Boat registrations and so forth. Kindest Regards Lorna York

Does anyone know a list of passengers on the canals? Or for that matter also employees? I am trying to locate my g grandfather Levi B. WOOD who supposedly came to IN from NY via rivers and canals. Any info greatly appreciated. Ruth

In 1816 & 1820 Joseph and Mary Holroyd had their two sons Abraham and Joseph christened at Mirfield Parish church.Joseph Snr was my mothers G.G.G.Grandfather and was a boatman. I would like to hear from anyone who has information regarding where he worked and if they are researching the same name. Arthur Turner, in hot sticky Holbeach. Lincs

I am trying to trace a marriage between James Stokes and an Olive (either Slater or Cutler) around 1886ish. Olive Stokes was my Great Grandmother and before she married James Stokes she was married to a ? Slater and had one son, Samuel. She had six children with James Stokes, the youngest being my Grandfather, Arthur Stokes. On his birth certificate, however, her former name was shown as Cutler and not Slater as I had supposed. I have searched the St Catherine's indexes to no avail. I have found them on the 1891 census at Worcester Wharf, Birmingham. This shows Samuel to be aged 7, James aged 4 and Edward aged 2. (This is how I come to be looking around 1886 for the marriage) I am stuck for ideas here - can anyone suggest anyhting that might help? I am unable to go any further until I have resolved this puzzle. Many thanks, Kate Best

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 7:35 PM Subject: Re: (no subject) > Hello Folks, > > I'm subscribed to CANAL-PEOPLE and have decided not to lurk!.I'll pitch > straight in with a couple of names. > > My ancestors JOSEPH GLOVER and his father THOMAS GLOVER were canal boatmen, > JOSEPH was born in Loughborough Leicestershire , but I don't know where > THOMAS was born. In one instance THOMAS is given as "Master " and another as > No 1. Thomas died before the 1851 census, but did JOSEPH ?. I haven't found > him. His wife and son went down to Birmingham at some time where his son > (also THOMAS was a journeyman coppersmith) JOSEPH's Wife MARY died in 1869 > and her son said she was a widow. > > I have a note of a J.GLOVER going through the Cromford Canal, but don't know > the full Christian name. They were also connected with a JOHN MURFIN, who was > a Master and at one time I think an owner, He is also possibly an ancestor. > > I have searched the Lincs m/fiche and none of them are there. If anyone has > any information PLEASE get in touch. I have been searching for JOSEPH for > years. I really want to now when he died ! Have exhausted most of the > Registrars in England, literally, I think!. I need him in the 1851 census > somewhere in England and connected with the coal trade on the canals. He was > bap 1819 and married MARY ELVIN 1842, both in Loughborough. > > Thanks if you can help. > > Thelma Morgan. >

Could SKS tell me how I could go about finding information about my ggg grandfather EDWARD READING He married SELINA CLARRIDGE at Holy Trinity Coventry on November 6th 1826 On his son's marriage certificate Edward's occupation was boatman. I do not know if here was an owner or employee. Any help would be appreciated. TIA, Peter Reading Victoria. Australia

Evenin all. This is Norm just getting over an nasty illness.During which I shed some 2 stone. I was the one on BBC 2 Bloodties who forgot to take his coat off. All my research on floppy disc and as printouts is deposited in:- 1. Wolverhampton Archives , Snow Hill , Wolverhampton 2. Wednesfield Family History Centre , Linthouse Lane, Wednesfield 3. Ellesmere Port Boat Museum,South Pier Rd., Ellesmere Port, Cheshire. Always try Ellesmere Port Regards Norman -----Original Message----- From: Eric H Millward <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 14 May 2000 21:28 Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] FAMILIES >Try [email protected] >Norman Holt specialises in Wolverhampton. he appeared in a recent TV >programme. > >> Regards, >> Eric MILLWARD of Marple, Cheshire >> [email protected] >> Interests in Cheshire, BRUCKSHAW,BUCKLEY, CHARLESWORTH, DALE, HANSON, >> JOHNSON, LEA, LEE, LEIGH, LEWIS, LITTLER, MILLWARD, MOORES, MOSES, NIELD, >> PODMORE, STREET, WASHINGTON, WILLIAMSON, >> in Derbyshire, MILLWARD, RADFORD, >> in Lancashire, GROOM, HEEDS, MORGAN, MURPHY, ROBERTS, >> in Staffordshire, DALE, HODSON, JOHNSON, MILLWARD, SIMCOCK >> in Shropshire, JOHNSON >> in WR Yorkshire, WHITEHEAD >> and coming to UK from America before 1820, HOLDEN. > > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Dear Aileen I have researched boat familiies of Wolverhampton and put some 4 - 5,000 baptism and marriage entries into :- 1. Wolverhampton Archives, Snow Hill,Wolverhampton. 2. Ellesmere Port Boat Museum,South Pier Rd.,Ellesmere Port , Cheshire. 3. Wednesfield Family History Centre, Linthouse Lane, Wednesfield. With these are many entries for the Potteries and Cheshire done by Mo & Don Wood and my Transcripts of the Wolverhampton,Chester and Runcorn Boat registers. Can you let me know who you are looking for ? Ellesmere Port is always a good place to start. Once I have worked out how to send files on the new system I have I will be able to help more. Regards Norman -----Original Message----- From: Aileen Durn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 14 May 2000 20:58 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] FAMILIES >Hello to all >Does anyone have a list of families asociated with the canal boats of the >midlands? >Thanks in advance >Aileen Durn > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Dear Bill. NSR stands for North Staffordshire Railway Norman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 13 April 2000 12:54 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] NSR Wharf, Burslem, Staffordshire >Hi all, > >I have an ancestor who according to the 1881 census lived at NSR Wharf, >Burslem, Staffordshire with his family, he is listed as a porter. > >Can anyone help me with what NSR Wharf is? I know where Burslem is, but would >like an exact location if possible of NSR Wharf, hopefully something of it >still exists so that I may photograph it on my next journey home. > >Cheers, > >Jim Thompson. > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Regret delay due it a poorly e-mail system.my records are for Wolverhampton anf parts of Cheshire.What name do you need as I have some 200 individual surname files done. Norman -----Original Message----- From: Lynda <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 07 June 2000 21:40 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Help Required WRY. >Good evening >I am new to this list and I am struggling to find any info on my Grt.Grandparents who were boatpeople. > >I have found them on the 1881 census and know that they were on their boat but am unable to find the name of their boat, if they owned it or if they were employed but a Carrier? How do I go about this, I do believe they worked the areas around Leeds, Skipton and Bolton and also Bishop . Any help would be appreciated .Lynda. > > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

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Good evening I am new to this list and I am struggling to find any info on my Grt.Grandparents who were boatpeople. I have found them on the 1881 census and know that they were on their boat but am unable to find the name of their boat, if they owned it or if they were employed but a Carrier? How do I go about this, I do believe they worked the areas around Leeds, Skipton and Bolton and also Bishop . Any help would be appreciated .Lynda.