Pat Good Evening please could you tell me where you managed to find this register and do you think there would be one for Leeds or Skipton? TIA Lynda. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hayward <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 30 July 2000 16:18 Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Wigan Canal Boat Register (including Abram) > >Wigan Canal Boat Register > >!4. "Lyz" Ricard Wright , John Abram , J Rigby, Richard Rigby, > J Cullen, James Lamb. Reg'd 7. 2. 1879 > >37. "Sir Roger" George Scott, John Abram, Ed Thompson, > W Mather, R Worthington, H Nuttall, J Rigby, Reg'd >24-2-1879 > >45. "Ann" John Abram, John Morris, Henry Waring, W Prescott, > M Thompson, Reg'd 26-3-1879 > >103. "Minerva" Robert Seddon, J Abram, James Lamb, > J Robinson, Reg'd 25-6-1879 > >156. "Prince of Wales" Master: H Abram, Reg'd 20-6-1929 > >171. "Victor" Edward Siddon, S Dickenson, E Greenway, > T Abram, W Sherry, Phil Nutter, Reg'd >24-7-1885 > >220. " Siren" Robert Abram, Thomas Owen, Reg'd 21-6-1894 > >222. "Gladstone" Rich Gill, R Abram, R Gill, Reg'd 18-12-1894 > >261. " Hilda" W'm Abram Reg'd 21-1-1909 > >314. " Science" John Wells, J Ruddick, J Abram, Reg'd 16-12-1926 > drawn by tug. > >327. "Albert" Harry Abraham, Horseboat drawn by steam tug. > Reg'd 12-12-1929 > >114. "Leeds" James Abraham, John Morris, John Robinson, > R Rimmer, Reg'd 25-6-1879 > >I hope this helps the person looking for Abram. > >Regards >Pat >with Allport & Pearson boatmen ancestors > > >============================== >Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, >access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM > >

Can SKS let me have the address or who to contact at the Huddersfield Canal Society, Arthur Turner, in Holbeach,Lincs;

Hi Listers, I'm new to the list and wondered if any one could help. My DORSETT half of the family were Canal People. I have the following: William DORSETT married to Emily SANSOM George DORSETT born 1876, Dorset married to Mary Ann LANGTHORN born 1883, Hayes, Middlesex, married 1898, Paddington Basin (she was only 15!) had 13 children, some of whom were: Alice, Minnie, Jack, Mark Edward (born 3 November 1901, Langley, Bucks, died same year) and my Grandfather Albert DORSETT. The problem I have is that Grandad always said he was born on 6th November 1902 at Langley, Bucks on a barge called the 'Dottie'. We have never found his birth certificate, nor does Langley, Bucks have any record of him. To make matters worse, as you can see above, a brother was born 1 year and 3 days earlier in exactly the same place, but this cannot be Grandad as the child died in the same year. Unfortunately Grandad passed away in 1990 and, since I only started my genealogy in October 1999, I cannot ask him if he can remembered being included in any census. If anyone knows this family or can tell me where I can find a record of them (ie Census), I would be most grateful if you could contact me. It is a family mystery that haunts us. I would dearly love to find Grandad's birth certificate to give to my Mother. She is the only surviving member of her family now. I would be interested too, in the families of my Grandad's siblings. Names of Barges: Dottie, Wagtail, Polly Thanks. Paulette (Basham) Thompson

Hello All! I am intruding on this list in the hopes that some knowledgeable person will help/advise me. George DAY (b. about 1814 in Stratton St. Margaret, Wiltshire), was described as a waterman (in his son's marriage registration) and as a canal labourer. I have found George in Stratton St. Margaret in the 1851 and 1861 censuses, and have also found him (I THINK) in Swindon in 1871 and 1881. There are some confusing factors in the censuses so either they don't all relate to the same George, or George married three times, or the census taker made some mistakes. I am really keen to understand what I have. I am interested to know what George's job would have entailed and on what canal he would have worked. I would also like to know if there was a union or other body to which he might have belonged and, if so, if records of the organization are available? Or, if there are any other records, other than the parish records, which would throw some light on George and his family. I'd be very grateful for any information or directions. Thank you. Census entries. 1851 - Stratton St. Margaret - Canal Side George DAY, b. STRATTON, aged 37 Wife: Mary, b. STANTON or MARSTON (SOUTH), aged 32 Several children 1861 - Stratton St. Margaret: - Canal Side George DAY, b. LONDON, aged 46 - canal labourer Wife: Sarah, b. STRATTON, aged 51 Several children - same as younger children listed in 1851 census (older ones presumably left home) 1871 - Swindon - 24 Fleet Street: George DAY, b. STRATTON, aged 56 - labourer Wife: Sarah, b. LONDON, aged 60 - tailoress No children at home 1881 - Swindon - 3 Regent Street: George DAY, b. STRATTON, aged 64 - labourer Wife: Mary Ann, b. PURTON, aged 65 No children at home Vivienne Toronto, Canada

Wigan Canal Boat Register "Science" No. 314 Registered 16 Dec 1926 Master: J ABRAM Route: Wigan, M/C Blackburn. Nature of traffic: Coal. Wide boat drawn by Tug. "Hilda" No. 261 Registered 21-1-1909 Master: William ABRAM Route: Leeds & Liverpool. Nature of Traffic: Coal & General. Not used as a fly boat. "Prince of Wales" No. 156 Registered 20-6-1929 Master: H ABRAM Route: Wigan, M/C Liverpool. Nature of Traffic: Coal. Horse, Steam Tug, Wide boat.

Wigan Canal Boat Register !4. "Lyz" Ricard Wright , John Abram , J Rigby, Richard Rigby, J Cullen, James Lamb. Reg'd 7. 2. 1879 37. "Sir Roger" George Scott, John Abram, Ed Thompson, W Mather, R Worthington, H Nuttall, J Rigby, Reg'd 24-2-1879 45. "Ann" John Abram, John Morris, Henry Waring, W Prescott, M Thompson, Reg'd 26-3-1879 103. "Minerva" Robert Seddon, J Abram, James Lamb, J Robinson, Reg'd 25-6-1879 156. "Prince of Wales" Master: H Abram, Reg'd 20-6-1929 171. "Victor" Edward Siddon, S Dickenson, E Greenway, T Abram, W Sherry, Phil Nutter, Reg'd 24-7-1885 220. " Siren" Robert Abram, Thomas Owen, Reg'd 21-6-1894 222. "Gladstone" Rich Gill, R Abram, R Gill, Reg'd 18-12-1894 261. " Hilda" W'm Abram Reg'd 21-1-1909 314. " Science" John Wells, J Ruddick, J Abram, Reg'd 16-12-1926 drawn by tug. 327. "Albert" Harry Abraham, Horseboat drawn by steam tug. Reg'd 12-12-1929 114. "Leeds" James Abraham, John Morris, John Robinson, R Rimmer, Reg'd 25-6-1879 I hope this helps the person looking for Abram. Regards Pat with Allport & Pearson boatmen ancestors

Hello listers, I'm re-submitting this in the hope that it will bring more information. Thanks to Norman for sending me data. As a newcomer to this list, I would be more than pleased if any of you were able to supply info. about the following boatmen/women who were active on various canals in the North-West and other areas of England: JOHN BAILEY b. 1825 (active on the Sankey Cut in 1859) DAVID BAILEY b. 1859 at Winwick Quay (active on the Manchester, Bolton & Bury late 1800s) JOSEPH BAILEY b. 18?? RICHARD HIGGINS b. 18?? (married Elizabeth Bailey, eventually settled at Lymm, Cheshire) WILLIAM BRYAN b. 1827 at Yardley, B'ham (active on several Midlands & N-W canals) LOUISA MANDER b. 1837 (of canal folk) at Brierley Hill, Staffs. (married William Bryan) William & Louisa Bryan settled at Salford where they reputedly owned several boats that mainly plied the Manchester, Bolton & Bury canal. Any information at all about the above ancestors of mine would be gratefully received by Stan Bailey ============================== Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM

Hi Peter It is only a chance, but a rewarding one if successful. The PRO Kew holds both maritime and railway records. The later took over the canals and there could be pages of stuff. Some of it is a treasurehouse. Try www.pro.gov.uk Good luck Ernie Bull Bristol, UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Boden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Rochdale Canal (1900s') > Can you refer me to any source of information about the boats and times of > the canal. Particularly I am interested in the Lancashire/Yorkshire stretch > from Rochdale to the Tuel Lock and on to Halifax. My grandfather was a toll > keeper at lock 22 near Todmorden. > Regards, > Peter Boden > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM >

Can you refer me to any source of information about the boats and times of the canal. Particularly I am interested in the Lancashire/Yorkshire stretch from Rochdale to the Tuel Lock and on to Halifax. My grandfather was a toll keeper at lock 22 near Todmorden. Regards, Peter Boden

John Harrison was born in Ireland around 1814 and worked on the Erie Canal in the 1830s and/or 40s. He married Eliza (Elizabeth) Lindsay and family legend says he worked for her father on the canal. She was from County Armagh, Ireland and her parents were probably George and Mary Lindsay. They all lived in Oneida Co., NY. Any information on these people would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Did anyone on the list have STOPFORTH or ABRAM family on the British Inland Waterways? An aunt of mine in England has recently visited graveyards for me in search of my great grandparents's grave. She found them in Newburgh Lancashire. Our family worked on the Leeds & Liverpool Canal for generations. It appears my great grandparents Thomas RUDDOCK and Ellen (neé HESKETH) are buried in the grave of: MARTHA STOPFORTH d. 1906 aged 72 wife of EDWARD STOPFORTH. I'm trying to work out the relationship. I have a canal people marriage of a possible son for Edward and Martha: Thomas STOPFORTH married Margaret ABRAM in 1895 And also from the 1881 census an Abram living with Heskeths: Dwelling: Newburgh Census Place: Lathom, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341899 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3756 Folio 58 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Martha HESKETH U 18 F Newburgh, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Margaret HESKETH 9 F Newburgh, Lancashire, England Rel: Sister Occ: Scholar Robert HESKETH 7 M Newburgh, Lancashire, England Rel: Brother Occ: Scholar Elizabeth HESKETH 5 F Newburgh, Lancashire, England Rel: Sister Occ: Scholar Margery ABRAM U 50 F Newburgh, Lancashire, England Rel: Aunt Occ: Dressmaker Would anyone with possible connections or suggestions please contact me. Thanks very much. Adrian in Barcelona. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi everyone on the canal list! An aunt of mine in England has recently visited graveyards for me in search of our CHEETHAM relatives who were all boatmen on the Leeds & Liverpool Canal. I would be very, very grateful if someone could look at the 1891 census for these two places to see what more information it gives for the same families. My aunt sent me the following gravestone inscriptions: LYDIATE CHURCHYARD, LANCASHIRE Robert CHEETHAM d. 1922 aged 50 Elizabeth (wife) d. 1962 aged 89 Edward CHEETHAM d. 1906 aged 41 Alice (wife) d. 1897 aged 39 Thomas (son) d. 1961 aged 75 HALSALL CHURCHYARD, LANCASHIRE James CHEETHAM d. 1955 aged 79 Maria (wife) James CHEETHAM d. 1901 aged 62 Elizabeth (wife) d. 1921 aged 81 Richard CHEETHAM (brother of Edward buried at Lydiate) d. 1955 Margaret (wife) (neé Gibbons) d. 1955 Thanks very much. Adrian in Barcelona. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 7:09 PM Subject: GLOVER/MURFIN > If anyone comes across these two names, in connection with canals and coal > carrying, would they kindly get in touch. THOMAS & JOSEPH GLOVER and JOHN > MURFIN > > Regards Thelma >

Hello Listers, I am hoping that one of you might be able to help me out. What I need is an deputy list owner for when I go away etc. If anyone is interested in helping please let me know. Julie Goucher [email protected] List Owner

Hi Larry, I had a look and came up with the following: Head: PITCHER, Louisa Neighbors 193569 Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Louisa PITCHER (Head) - 15 F --- South Lopham-Norfolk Robert PITCHER --- - 14 M Ag Labourer South Lopham-Norfolk Address: Village, Guiltcross Census Place: South Lopham Guiltcross, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1822 Folio: 248 Page: 37 FHL Film: 0207476 Head: PITCHER, John Neighbors 225459 Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace John PITCHER Head W 53 M Cow Keeper Castleacre-Nfk John PITCHER Son U 24 M Harness Maker Shipdham-Nfk Louisa PITCHER Daur U 20 F --- Shipdham-Nfk James PITCHER Son U 18 M Labr Shipdham-Nfk Arthur PITCHER Son U 16 M Labr Shipdham-Nfk Walter PITCHER Son - 12 M Scholar Shipdham-Nfk Robert PITCHER Son - 7 M Scholar Shipdham-Nfk Address: Lynn Street, Swaffham Census Place: Swaffham Swaffham, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1831 Folio: 44 Page: 28 FHL Film: 0207486 These were the only two Louisa Pitcher in Norfolk Hope it helps Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Healey <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 23 July 2000 13:56 Subject: Re: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Look ups on 1851 > Goodday Karen from Campbellford,Ont.Canada My G-Grandmother Louisa Pitcher > & her family should be on the Norfolk census--Father & mothers names were > John & Mary Ann (Scales) --any information is appreciated--Larry Healey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Adrian & Karen Fraser <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 5:29 PM > Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Look ups on 1851 > > > > Hi All > > > > I have got the 1851 census for Warwickshire, Devon & Norfolk for the > > weekend. If anyone would like a look up for boatpeople please let me > know. > > I must stress this is for the Counties above. > > > > Karen > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM > > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM > >

Goodday Karen from Campbellford,Ont.Canada My G-Grandmother Louisa Pitcher & her family should be on the Norfolk census--Father & mothers names were John & Mary Ann (Scales) --any information is appreciated--Larry Healey ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian & Karen Fraser <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 5:29 PM Subject: [CANAL-PEOPLE] Look ups on 1851 > Hi All > > I have got the 1851 census for Warwickshire, Devon & Norfolk for the > weekend. If anyone would like a look up for boatpeople please let me know. > I must stress this is for the Counties above. > > Karen > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com now has more than 200,000 subscribers! To celebrate, > access to ALL of Ancestry.com will be free from July 18 to July 31! > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/freepromo.asp?sourcecode=A11AM >

Hi there I have just joined this rootsweb page, as I want to find any one Researching the Name Hunt from Knottingley the family owned Several boats including the Kate and Jane. And John and Mary. They also had family from Hull and Gainsborough My G Grandfather Married a Sarah Ann Hunt in Pontefract on 1872. I hope I can make contact with someone Margaret Longley in Doncaster

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Hi All I have got the 1851 census for Warwickshire, Devon & Norfolk for the weekend. If anyone would like a look up for boatpeople please let me know. I must stress this is for the Counties above. Karen