Do to the fact that I have some dead mail list (not active since 2012 and before) and my lack of time to try to arouse them I am putting them up for adoption. I am writing to the lists BCC first so subscriber will have first choice to all the lists. If you are interested in adopting any please contact me at: fred@dittmar.net I will on the first of November turn any that have not been spoken for over to RW to be placed on the adoption list. Below is the list of mail lists: AHTA AR-GHOSTTOWNS BURNES CAN-AB-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-BE-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-MB-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NB-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NF-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NT-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NU-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-PEI-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-QC-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-SK-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-YT-GHOSTTOWNS CANADIAN-TRAIN-DISASTERS ITCHOCTA ITCHREEKN LA-CEMETERIES MA-GHOSTTOWNS ME-GHOSTTOWNS MERCHANT-MARINE NA-CHEROKEE-OKLAHOMA NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROAD NH-GHOSTTOWNS OK-101RANCH OK-CITY-DIRECTORIES OK-CSCPA OK-GEN-SOC for all Gen Societies in Oklahoma OK-LANDRUNS OK-LAWMEN-OUTLAWS OK-MIGRATION OK-MYSTERIES OK-RECORDS RI-GHOSTTOWNS RYDER TX-COTTON TX-FREEDMEN TX-HISTORY TX-MERCERCOL TX-MYSTERIES TX-SHARECROP TX-VETERANS TX-VINTAGEPHOTOS TXCASS TXCASS-CCGS TXCASTRO TXGRAYSO TXKLEBER TXLUBBOC TXTERRY VT-GHOSTTOWNS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: talbotrail Surnames: FRASER, DUTHIE, GRUMMET, MANDERVILLE, CURNICK, SCULLER, KELLY, STEARNS, HALL, GURNEY, EDERER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/26.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: TWO TORONTO MEN AMONG THE VICTIMS Toronto Globe ... "Charles Fraser, who was mentioned in yesterday's Globe as a probable victim of the awful accident of Sunday morning at the Y, is well known in this city, having been a resident here for some years. That he is among the killed is now certain, his brother Andrew having yesterday identified a watch chain found in the debris as that of his brother, and, still further, Mr. Stiff, G. T. R. superintendent, telegraphed last evening that the pass on which Fraser was checked at Windsor on the ill-fated train. There are circumstances attending the death of poor Charles Fraser of a most melancholy character, plunging, as it does, a wife and living relatives in unutterable grief. Six months ago, he left the city for Omaha, laving his wife in Toronto until such time as he was in a position to send for her. He succeeded in getting a good position in the Union express company, of his adopted city, and three weeks ago, in great hopes of a prosperous future, took steps to remove his fami! ly there. His furniture was shipped ten days ago, and his wife meanwhile remained with friends until her husband should arrive for her. He wrote Mrs. Fraser that he would in Toronto at latest on Sunday or Monday, but the stated time came to find him amongst the twenty so frightfully and tragically killed. The poor young widow is left with two children, and her grief at the loss of a husband, whose life was devoted to her interests, may well be imagined. The deceased was a brother of Mrs. Ramsay, of Grange avenue, who is now in Omaha, where she went two weeks ago. He was a prominent member of the Gaelic society, always taking a keen interest in everything pertaining to the maintenance of Scottish sentiment, and his death, of which there is no doubt, will be lamented by a large circle of friends. Another Toronto man was also a victim of the disaster, at least circumstances point strongly to that conclusion. George Duthie left this city some twenty years ago for Kansas City, where he has continuously remained ever since. Last week he wrote to his parents, who live at 263 Adelaide street west, that he would leave Kansas with his wife on Friday for Toronto to pay them a short visit. He did leave as stated, but up to a late hour last night, he had not arrived. His brother went over to Hamilton yesterday to try and find some trace of the missing ones among the ruins. He found two ticket stubs bearing the Kansas station stamp, the numbers being forty and forty-one, thus leaving no doubt, when the other circumstances are taken into consideration, that the unfortunate couple perished with the others. This is another touching incident of the deplorable accident. The unfortunate man did not see his aged father and mother for twenty years, and no doubt the son was as ! rejoiced at the prospect of meeting them as they were to again see a son from whom they had been so long separated. He was a man of about 40 years of age, of medium height and dark complexion." http://1880shamilton.blogspot.com/2012/02/railway-disaster-at-junction-1889-part_29.html http://www3.gendisasters.com/ontario/17541/hamilton-on-train-wreck-apr-1889 Name: Charles G. Fraser Event Type: Death Event Date: 28 Apr 1889 Event Place: Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario Gender: Male https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDYG-1ZC Also killed (this may not be a complete list) - George DUTHIE and wife of Kansas City Mrs George GRUMMET of Chicago E W MANDERVILLE of Chicago J L CURNICK of Chicago M R SCULLER of Chicago John KELLY of Chicago J B STEARNS of Camden, ME H S HALL of Lankakee, IL GURNEY of New York EDERER of Detroit Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BresPet Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/26.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not sure if you are still interested in this information after all of these years, but it appears that the April 28, 1889 accident was the one on which a FRASER was a passenger. Please note the reference to a gentleman of that name as a probable passenger in the final paragraph of the attached article. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lionel115 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/30.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm in Indiana and haven't found newspapers for Hamilton Ontario on line. Thank you so much for your suggestions, they are greatly appreciated. Grandpa was born Dec 1882 and his mother died Jan 1884, so he was 13 months old. Father died Sep of 1885, so Grandpa was not quite 3 years old. Mom thought that Grandpa had been sent to the orphanage as an infant. I have located the 3 siblings with relatives in the Canada 1890 census, so that checks out. He was able to apprentice with a newspaper from about the age of 12 to 14. He emancipated at about 14. Grandpa moved to Michigan sometime between 1896 and 1905 (1902 per the 1920 census). He taught school and lived in Grand Rapids until his death in 1964. I have a copy of a reference letter from Ferris Institute stating he had been studying there for the past year and it is dated 1905. There was some contact from family while he was in the orphanage. Grandpa stayed in touch with his sister and visited her in Canada several ti! mes. It appears that his brother came to Grand Rapids, Michigan and lived near Grandpa for 10 years (per 1918 draft registration & city directories). I can't find death record for brother in Grand Rapids and I don't know where he went or what happened after about 1927. It has been quite fascinating to me to put the pieces together like a puzzle on this part. I have been fortunate enough to be able to document and connect the dots for his Grandparents (my gg-grandparents) and 6 of 8 for the next generation. I think your newspaper idea is really great. Maybe next summer, hubby and I could vacation up near Hamilton Ontario and I could spend a day in the library. jbm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: metaphor Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/30.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: JBM, I just want to interject here how pleased I am to see that you were able to locate a death registration and get some additional information about what happened in your great-grandfather's family. Have you done any research in newspapers for the period between Alfred's wife's death in 1884 and his own death in 1885? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lionel115 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/30.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Thank you for trying to help and for this information. With another person's help, I found the death registration for my Great Grandfather. His name was Alfred Johnson, but it was recorded as Alfred Johnston and he died on 7 Sep 1885. Mom understood that he died near the time my Grandfather was born due to some type of train accident, as Grandpa was put into an orphanage early in 1884. We realize now with the correct information that when his wife died in Jan 1884, he might have felt he had no way to take care of 4 or 5 young children and go to work. The death registration fits as he worked for the railroad (per several children's birth records) and was crushed between 2 cars during the coupling process. Thanks again. jbm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diehlspringman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/30.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are you sure it was a train? Just learned a relative of mine died in the "Asia disaster" according to his death certificate (a steamer that sank in Georgian Bay). There was no complete passenger list. Only two survivors, out of reported 122 or 200 on board.My relative a labourer / lumberman from Rama Ontario. Here's a good report: http://images.maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.ca/58436/data Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GregNiagara Surnames: Fraser/Macleod Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/26.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: charles james george gordon died in train crash near hamilton. Ontario.he left a wife Isabella Graham and 2 sons. charles granville & norman Graham fraser. I am also looking for more info. on the family.His father was in military & I believe he died in Galt, Ont. married to Christina Macleod. any info on family & pictures would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tstagg68 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is some articles in the Toronto Star on Jan 2,3, 4, and I think the 7th of January on this derailment. They are available in their archives for a small fee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: M_Ajax Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/16.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks, you are correct, I found out several years ago that my mother gave me bad info. I wish I could delete my old post.........Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbdale_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/96.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The wreck actually happened in Ontario, on the way to Winnipeg. Here is Sarah's death ame: Sarah Davidson Event Type: Death Event Date: 10 Apr 1907 Event Place: Chapleau, Algoma, Ontario, Canada Gender: Female Age: Birth Date: Birthplace: England Birth Year (Estimated): Burial Date: Burial Place: Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Name: Reference ID: cn 005665 GS Film number: 1854404 Digital Folder Number: 4174882 Image Number: 633 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbdale_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/96.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is an old message, so don't know if you already have the info, but here is what I found: It looks like the accident happened in April, not January. WINNIPEG FREE PRESS APRIL 12 1907 HARROWING DETAILS OF CHAPLEAU WRECK Fort William and Port Arthur Hospitals Filled With Injured, Among Them Several Winnipeggers-Eye Witnesses Give Graphic Description of Terrible Scenes-Compelled to Stand By and Watch Fellow Passengers Burned to Death-Terrible Plight of Woman and Two Children-Overturned Cars a Mass of Flames Within a Few Minutes of the Accident-The Dead and Injured. Port Arthur, Ont. April 11.-The arrival of the train from the east, carrying the passengers who were in the wreck of No. 1 last night near Chapleau, brought the first facts regarding the most terrible accident which has ever occurred on the C. P. R. The accident occurred at Brunei-, twenty miles west of Chapleau, when six cars left the track. Within five minutes after the accident the cars were a mass of flames, and despite the efforts of the crew and passengers from the other cars a number of lives were .lost, variously estimated at from eight to fourteen. A total of thirty-four sustained injuries of various kinds, a few of which are of a rather serious nature, but the majority escaped with but slight bruises. Eight of the injured were brought to the hospital here, and a number were taken to the Fort William hospital. THE DEAD G. GUILDING, wife and two children, Plaistow, Eng. C. GUIILDING, of the same place; a brother. MRS. R. B. CHAMPION and child, Kingston-on-the- Thames, for Brandon. MRS. C. .R. DAVIDSON and son, from York Eng., to EXSHAW. ALBERTA WINNIFRED AND SUSAN HORTON, from Charing Heath, Kent, Eng. to Brandon WM. DAY from Kensington, Eng. for Winnipeg An unknown English woman and two children. THE INJURED. LOUIS G-ILLETTE, London, Eng., hands cut slightly. \VM. WILLIAMSON, Brandon, Man., both hands burned and cut. . JOS. GIBSON, Salisbury, Eng., back sprained N. KOUMISS, Fort William, scalp cut and both hands CHAS. COLEMAN, Portsmouth, Eng., head, face and hands burned, back strained (serious). ALPHONSE FERLADE, Ste. Marie Beauce, Que., fractured metacarpal bones. j ARCHIBALD STLJTSON, Cheltenham, Eng., wrist bruised. S. KNIGHT, Cambridge, Eng., leg slightly bruised. , ERNEST KNIGHT, Cambridge, Eng., wound over eye and ear cut. HARRY WILLIAMS, Manchester Eng. wrist cut JOHN F. AUBISTER, Orkney Island, face and both hands severely burned. JOSEPH TOWNSEND, Scotland, going to Winnipeg, left wrist jammed ARTHUR MCCRAY, Hausland, going to Moose Jaw, slight cut on finger. PATRICK HARVEY, Wigland, Scotland, hand cut PETER BUEROF, Winnipeg, leg slightly bruised HERBERT JACOB, Athens, Ont. nose cut A. DECHAISSE, Woonsocket, R.I, generally shaken up GEORGE LATOUGHE, Winnipeg, scalp wound. GEORGE HICKS, Athens, Ont, leg bruised. ED COLLIER, West Shefford, Que,, side injured and head bruised M C SAVAGE, West Shefford, Que., both hands burned FRANK SCHMIDT, Winnipeg, foot bruised JOHN URRY, London, Eng., slight scalp wound. RODERICK DAVIDSON, Exshaw, Alta., hand slightly cut W D WHITE,, Whiteside, Ont., leg slightly cut. A C WHITE, Whiteside, Ont., cut over eyes. J. T. TURNER, Sault Ste, Marie, Ont., back and hip bruised LAWRENCE GRIFFIN, Carleton, N. B., wounds on hands JAMES CLARK, Carleton, NB, hip slightly bruised. CLARENCE SPROULE New Glasgow, NB, two scalp wounds S B ROSSITER, Winnipeg Hotel, scalp wound H. SAUNDERS, Schreiber, Ont., two small cuts on back of hands. R. GAMBLE, Fort William, hand cut and hip bruised Fort William, Ont., April 11 Mr. H.M. Beach of Ottawa described some of the tragic incidents at the ending of the Chapleau catastrophe. One poor fellow was pinned by the legs under the tourist car, and three of his companions made heroic efforts to release him. The fierce devouring flames swept nearer and nearer, scorching the men's clothes and burning their hands and faces. The victim's cries were heartrending: "For God's sakes boys, don't leave me, make one more try to save me", he shrieked. The flames, however, were unbearable, and realizing any further attempt to save their friend would be useless, the men reluctantly jumped out of the range of the fire. Women and Children Burned. A woman with two small children was shut up in even a worse plight, and their heartrending cries were fearful and all three were consumed. The poor half-demented father picked up a little rag doll which had belonged to his child and sobbingly declared that this was all was left him of his family. Mr. Beach says that the track, was so narrow at the point where the cans fell over,, that a small handbarrow would have gone over the embankment, and declares that the company should be made to'' build up' the track to a greater width. "Had the cars only fallen over, not a life would have been lost, but on falling down the ten-foot embankment the fire started, and In an Incredibly short period of time the whole of the overturned cars was a mass of flames. Terrible Scenes. Agnes Carleton, travelling from Sudbury to Kenora, declares the scenes wore appalling. "I will never think of them without a shudder. The cries of the little children were terrible, and the most hard-hearted person In the world would have been shocked. Mothers were crying for their children, und children sobbing for their parents, and the scene was altogether too terrible to describe." Miss Sylvie Gresson related her experience. She was sitting talking to two friends, who were both killed, but a few minutes before the tragic affair and had got up to go back to her own seat, when there came a crash. Everything was In confusion, and suddenly she experienced a sensation like the car was sliding down hill. When the car came to the bottom she able to get out through a broken (continued on page five) HARROWING DETAILS OF CHAPLEAU WRECK - , i h i . . ' ir *. ; .-V - (Cuntlnufit from One 1 LADIES' BLOUSES AT SPECIAL REDUCTION. Ladles' Kino Wlilto Lawn Blousow, newest Htyle. with handsome trlmmlnR's of embroidery and fancy tucliH. long and short alcoves. Regular vahio $1.75 and $2.00. Friday and Saturday Special , .?1.25 DRESSrNG SACQUES, VERY KEEN CUT. Ladles' Kancy ^Utslln Dressing Sacnucs, polka, dot puttorti, nice, Mtvllsh effect. Regular 75c. Spocliil S06 NEW IDEAS IN FANCY COMBS. Many new and be.aatlful designs In Ladles' Fancy Hair Combs tiro here In great variety. Styles to suit ull tastes and requirement!*. 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Kainlly f-lze, .$6.50 $2.00 Special As-be«lo« each Flounce Irons. .. 65c TourlM Irons. .. 40c !rnn.«, . 30c moll Special oar It Mrs. Potts' Sad Irons, 'ho old reliable Iron, and the Fan.'- good old ciuallty: plain, per sM Tin1 Fame set, plated. .15 ..$1.25 The facts made use of within a reasonable time. 'The Canadian rte.legatrs to the colonial conference would likely taTic advantage of the fact that thev were In Kurope to Approach the several coiitlnentn countries «Itli whlcli Canada had trading po.^lblllllrs to Induce tnein to ttvnll themselves, of the ofCor ContalueJ In the Intermediate tariff of Canada. There would ho more In what '.-senator Loughec-rt --aid If ihe margin of tho Intorrnedhue tariff wore not so narrow. Sir Ollchard said that Sn per cent, of r-uiftda" trade na* conflnr.d to Great Britain and the United Slates. Tim "omninder was divided between three Kuropean countries. . in thr poisossion of the public . . .-.-de" of abuse upon Judge AIC- . .-]. and his iifisoclatea In following .iiHirauro I lives- tir.cn la. whether liy «-ar.acla Mfc Co.. In which bona- .': i:ox 13 Interested, or In the For- --. u. in which Air. Postn- and his asuuns m>t their funds for the Union ,:.",;. which was "the creattlr* ns . llellimith anhl. of tho J"i;^f: i ^ r c n Mr. Foster and his ^MC\- « nii.l itif "three old men In a row Mr Fowler says, tlw people .i.lv iiindc up their inlnfl what .- s-.ins 10 do about U. and the parliament ought not to bo was te d members of parliament taking tho v..r,iiigc of tlicir position In ° or two The to a M. A. time favored nation clause applj«"« . number of countries added a difficulty to "he appllciitloii of Iho intermediate tariff. However, moat of tho countries which had the benefit of the favored mUlon clause had »»le trade with Canada and wore not likely to jiavo much. Tho Duty on Coal. Senator Ellin said that It rest 17'to bring a 13.700 monolypo Into Canada. Two tilings which should bo free In Canuda wero flour and coal. Last C ' on bituminous coal a total cluiy hail been collected. "mwindow. Having saved a little child, the came back to tender what help she could, when a terrific explosion occurred and the car was in a few moments enveloped in flames Everyone on board stated that the wreck was of the most appalling character, and strong men even appear unequal to the task of speaking about It in measured terms. Graphic Description. Ottawa, April 11.-One of the first eye-witnesses of the wreck to reach Ottawa was Mr. J. D. Campbell, a mail clerk on the east-bound train, which reached the scene of the disaster shortly after the occurrence. "It was a fearful sight," said Mr. Campbell, as he spoke of the accident. "The train was No. 1, going west and when Just 22 miles out of Chapleau, struck, it is thought, a spread rail. The mall car stuck to the engine, but the baggage car turned over and over down the embankment to the frozen lake, pulling I four other cars after It. It was just at noon, and the forward cars were packed with Immigrants cooking their dinner. The stoves set fire to the debris Immediately, and fifteen are believed to have perished. Lost His Family. "One man was nearly frantic. He had lost his wife, two children and a blind brother. In another family one little girl alone survived. Nearly 100 were Injured, and everyone I saw battered and covered with blood, lite porters pulled out mattresses, and the wounded were laid in long rows along the track, and tended as best they might be by fellow-passengers until doctors could be secured from Chapeau. It took some time, as they had to telegraph by way of Chicago. The auxiliary then came up from Chapleau. cleared the line and hauled back the six remaining cars and all the passengers. Here they were joined by the two remaining sections of the train and the town was filled. J J Nevins of Ottawa, the mail clerk on the wrecked train told me he was in his car at the time and witnessed the disaster. It seemed a miracle to him that the train crew are not killed, as they were in the baggage car which was filled with baggage. Winnipeg people safe J P Alexander, M.P.P. at Turtle Mountain a quarter of a century ago, and who later sat for Deloraine, had a daughter and her child on the number 1. With horror Mr. Alexander read the account of the terrible fatality and waited in fear for the names of the victims, but before the fuller news came Mr. Alexander received a wire from his wife saying she and her child were both safe. " A lucky escape for us all", said the old-timer to the Free Press reporter. "I feel like a lad again". Army Immigrants The majority of the passengers with the train were British immigrants ex-SS Kensington, who left Halifax 160 in number on Monday. Adjt. Wakefield of the Salvation Army, who is one of the officers in charge of immigration in this city, states that some twenty-seven adult persons who are coming to Canada under the auspices of the army, were undoubtedly on board the wrecked train. He received a telegram from Halifax, stating that they had left that point on the 8th. The dispatch did not contain the names of the party. He was most anxious in regard to the welfare of the people, and said it was most possible that some of the victims were members of the army on the way to the west. The Kensington is not a chartered army boat and the Salvationists were members of a party in charge of an officer who accompanied them to Halifax, where they were taken over by Immigration authorities. Captain Stephens of the Church Army said that he was expecting a party of eleven people from the SS Kensington, and that in all probability there were on board the wrecked train. Their names however do not appear on the list of person's missing received this morning from the C.P.R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbdale_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/16.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know this is a very old message, so you may have found this. It looks like he died in Vancouver, British Columbia http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearchResult?as.EventTypeDeaths=true&as.FirstName=james&as.FirstNameOption=Any&as.LastName=lee&as.LastNameOption=Any&as.StartYear=1916&as.EndYear=1916&search=Search You might put a post on the message board there to see if anyone can do a newspaper lookup. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.britishcolumbia.southwestern/mb.ashx Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PerryDoner Surnames: Murgatroyd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/18.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So, does that make you Mary (Murgatroyd) Hollingsworth? Sydney's sister was my grandmother. Go to www.donersincanada.tribalpages.com and send me a message (near top right, in 'Security' box), and I'll send you back the family password. I don't like posting the password online where anyone could get it. I am missing a few bits regarding your line, including the name of your mother & husband. Have a look at my tree *you can't see living individuals unless you have the family password). Do you have anyone before Sydney's dad? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimaryham Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/18.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I realize this may be too late. I am Sydney Murgatroyd,s daughter. He was one of Ben,s sons. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: @@gunndm@shaw.ca Surnames: Gunn, Sutherland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/105.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is great - I really appreciate all that you have done on this file. That was a lot of detective work - but as you note - it can be fun. That fills in a big hole in my research. It is interesting to note that the census page has the year of Wilhelmina's immigration to Canada. She came with her brother and lived with a relative (uncle - Sutherland) until she married John. I am going to Scotland and will try to get documentation to confirm the information that I have. If you would like to contact me directly, just use my name with out the 2 leading ampersands. Thanks again - Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: talbotrail Surnames: GUNN, ( GUINN, GREEN ) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/105.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: SURPRISE !!!!!!! David Frederick is still alive, along with his mother, living with Georgina at 230 Symington in 1911. http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=50076&highlight=23#highlight 1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Toronto West / 69 Toronto / page 10 split view 21 110 Green Georgina F Head S Apr 1871 40 22 110 Green Wilhelmina F Mother W Apr 1842 69 23 110 Green David Frederick M Brother S Mar 1880 31 If you look at the original image, it's easy to see how GUNN got transcribed to GREEN. http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002030033.pdf ******************************************************* The "break-through" came from a blurry 1912 Toronto Directory..... http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec191200midiuoft#page/750/mode/2up Don, this has been a **fun** challenge! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kentuckybe1le Surnames: bey bay Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/100.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow! Thanks!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: talbotrail Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/100.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, here are some old newspaper articles. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GQ8zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yjoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4102,101349 http://www.nytimes.com/1864/07/03/news/canada-railroad-disaster-additional-particulars-emigrants-fall-train-incidents.html http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_68IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jR8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2621,5328455 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=f1dKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tCoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5733,130705 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St-Hilaire_train_disaster Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: talbotrail Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.disasters.canada.train/100.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, here are some old newspaper articles. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=GQ8zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=y... http://www.nytimes.com/1864/07/03/news/canada-railroad-disas... Quebec Daily Mercury - June 30, 1864 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_68IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=j... The True Witness and Catholic Chronicle - July 1, 1864 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=f1dKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=t... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St-Hilaire_train_disaster Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.