This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: VETAL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/7aB.2ACEAE/2320.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Mary Ellen. There were other ports of entry - other than Ellis Island . If Frank VETAL was born in Canada - he might have crossed the border - to the U.S.A. by land. Searched the 1881 Census - for Canada - there are 5 VETAL surnames listed - all in the Province of Quebec. *Perhaps you can assume - that Frank J. VETAL - had been born in the Province of Quebec as well. There are 19 VETAL surnames listed in the 1880 U.S.A. census - 0 Frank. Frank VETAL was your Grandfather? Perhaps there are other family members? Your parents Birth Registration/Long Form Certificate - should show his name perhaps other information. Your Grandparents Marriage Registration/Long Form Certificate - usually shows the names of the parents of the bride and groom - etc. Cheers, Stella