As I stated earlier this is not a matter of Bush. This is only a matter of Chretien who represents Canada throwing insults at other governments. Should never have happened. As for the 1911 census, IMO, there are reasons other than people's privacy of 92 yrs ago that is causing problems for the release of it. I know, personally that the government is not that concerned when it comes to privacy of living people. I don't know if all the letters are going to do any good or not when it comes to this. Lori >From: Roz Griston <[email protected]> >To: 'Lori Lauen' <[email protected]>, >"[email protected]" ><[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [CCC] Freedom of Information Request >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:40:12 -0700 > >yes, i too was raised if you can't say something nice don't say it all. >but, some ppl think it is okay for world leaders to bash france, >germany, russia (formerly the ussr), but we must never ever say >anything about the usa...and this time its not the usa..it is bush the >ppl of this planet are disgusted with. it is not anti-americanism..it >is anti-bushism. > >the census issue also has an international flavour thanks to past >retirement age dr. ivan fellegi who revamped the american census >process in 1978, who has been involved with brasil, australia and other >countries and how they now handle their censuses. > >chretien's greatest legacy would be to retire fellegi. but, he's in >pretty darn tight with the new world order which dubya's daddy started >spouting about a couple of decades ago. > >yes, lori we a great distance apart in our awareness of what is going >on with this planet. i've chosen to become informed regarding important >issues that will significantly impact on canada such the tarriffs on >our lumber, wheat, the breaching of fishery protection. > >but, we as canadians must not comment on these items..it might offend >the usa..who tend to forget all the things canadians have done for the >american ppl, including risking canadian diplomats lives during the >iran crisis..yes, we smuggled out americans, we sent help to 9/11. we >opened our airways to possible terrorist attacks to get americans and >other travellers safely to the ground..and then took these strangers >into our homes. > >but that is all forgotten the moment any canadian mentions they have a >problem with bush's foreign policy. so lets continue publically bashing >the former >iraqi government or zimbawe or anyother nation but the usa..because the >usa might get mad at us and create trade embargos..close the >borders..meanwhile the european economic leaders are running around >picking up on trade contracts in latin american and other countries who >refuse to do business with the usa because of its actions regarding the >invasion and occupation of iraq. > >now lets see if we can get back on topic and get those post 1906 >canadian censuses released without any restrictions. > >roz > >On Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:33 AM, Lori Lauen >[SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > > It is not a matter of defending Bush. You have your views and I have > > mine > > but Chetien is our Prime Minister and he should not be running down > > countries. He is only hurting Canada as a whole. Back to the 1911 > > census > > our government is wasting time that could be better spent on >something > > else > > talking about this census that should have just went through > > considering it > > is 92 yrs. > > > > Lori > > > > > > >From: Roz Griston <[email protected]> > > >To: 'Lori Lauen' <[email protected]>, > > >"[email protected]" > > ><[email protected]> > > >Subject: RE: [CCC] Freedom of Information Request > > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 10:23:19 -0700 > > > > > >i'm not partial..i'll run down any government. do you remember the > > >bumper stickers from the 1970's when oil prices were high..they > > >said..let the eastern bastards freeze. > > > > > >chretien also allowed the rcmp to pepper spray and beat canadian > > >protesters when a foreign genocidal leader came to vancouver during > > >an > > >APEC conference. > > > > > >read the the urls..then defend bush. > > >roz > > > > > > > > >On Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:12 AM, Lori Lauen > > >[SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > > > > > > > > Let's not run down other governments. Chetien does enough of that > > > > for > > > > all of > > > > Canada even though he has publicly stated he don't like western > > > > Canada. > > > > > > > > >From: Roz Griston <[email protected]> > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >Subject: RE: [CCC] Freedom of Information Request > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 10:03:31 -0700 > > > > > > > > > >but you believe bush and his followers..the coalition of the > > > > >willing > > > > >aka COWs. check out this url. > > > > >http://www.awolbush.com > > > > >scroll to the bottom of that page..look at the graphs showing > > > > >the > > > > >american economy for the last 3 presidents. > > > > > > > > > >surf around the web page and its links..and then get surfing the > > > > >internet. it won't take you long to learn that gulf 2 was an > > > > >unjust > > > > >war..an illegal war all so bush and his oil buddies could > > > > >control > > > > >middle eastern oil. > > > > > > > > > >surf for zalmay and haliburton. > > > > >learn that vice president dick cheney's dau mary, went to >baghdad > > > > >as > > > > >a > > > > >human shield along with 50 other children of diplomats including > > > > >sasha > > > > >trudeau, and norman graham (son of canada's foreign minister). > > > > > > > > > >learn that bush has locked up all presidental records in > > > > >perpetuity..erasing the normal 25 year disclosure law. > > > > > > > > > >learn how um qasar was levelled. learn that napalm was used in > > > > >gulf > > > > >2. > > > > > > > > > >learn about the patriot acts and the homeland security acts. >wake > > > > >up > > > > >ppl. > > > > > > > > > >i'm not a fan of chretien, but i will say i'm extremely pleased > > > > >he > > > > >is > > > > >standing up to bush and his ilk. WHY? > > > > >because chretien is retiring..he doesn't have to worry about who > > > > >is > > > > >going to fund him in the next election. > > > > > > > > > >well..enough of a flame. if any one would like to continue this > > > > >off > > > > >list..feel free to contact me. i can refer you to tons of > > > > >mainstream > > > > >media reports..to the usa senate where resolutions were > > > > >presented > > > > >prepping for attacks on iran and syria..gulf 2 isn't over by a > > > > >long > > > > >shot. bush and his buds want an oil pipeline across asia. > > > > > > > > > >did you know the usa cut of oil supplies to korea and that's > > > > >when > > > > >korea > > > > >fired up its nuclear reactors..yeah to get heat and electricity > > > > >to > > > > >north korea's ppl..imagine living in winnipeg with out heat or > > > > >lights > > > > >in winter. > > > > > > > > > >wake up..check out http://www.votetoimpeach.org > > > > > > > > > >roz ..with american ancestry back to 1617, descended from > > > > >several > > > > >rev > > > > >war ancestors. > > > > > > > > > >millions of americans don't support bush..but if they publically > > > > >voice > > > > >that opinion they are labelled unpatriotic..so much for the land > > > > >of > > > > >the > > > > >free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:13 AM, Lori Lauen > > > > >[SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > > > > > > Bith, > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you. As far as the 1911 census go I won't > > > > > > believe > > > > > > it, > > > > >no > > > > > > > > > > > > matter what is said, until it is a done deal. Over the years > > > > > > I > > > > > > have > > > > > > found > > > > > > most of the information given to constituents is done just to > > > > > > appease > > > > > > for a > > > > > > time. Jean Chetien is very good at running his mouth off > > > > > > about > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > governments but he is horrible at running his own country. I > > > > > > don't > > > > > > believe > > > > > > anything that comes from him or his followers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lori > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: [email protected] > > > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CCC] Freedom of Information Request > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 07:37:42 EDT > > > > > > > > > > > > > >April > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I spoke to my MP (Ivan Gross - Lib) 6 years ago at his > > > > > > >annual > > > > > > >Canada > > > > > > >Day > > > > > > >event. He was spouting off about the Freedom of Information > > >Act, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >that we > > > > > > >should > > > > > > >be able to get it, etc. To my face, very supportive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Then he went back to Ottawa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >He did a 180 degree turn around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >He is just another of Chretien's puppets. I can tell, > > > > > > >becuase > > > > > > >I > > > > > > >just got > > > > > > >one of his "newsletters" that keep his constituents up to > > > > > > >date > > > > > > >with > > > > > > >things. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > >was full of why Canada should not have supported the USA and > > > > > > >Britain > > > > > > >in the > > > > > > >war in Iraq. (Another thing I disagree with my government > > > > > > >about.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With a dictator like Chretien, it hard to have anything but > > > > > > >puppets > > > > > > >though > > > > > > >if > > > > > > >the person wants to retain their seat as a liberal. Not all > > > > > > >politicians > > > > > > >have > > > > > > >the fortitude of John Nunziata (hope I spelled that > > > > > > >correctly) > > > > > > >to > > > > > > >walk away > > > > > > >from party affiliation if they don't agree with what the > > > > > > >party > > > > > > >is > > > > > > >doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bith on Oshawa, ON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > > > > > > >How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. 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