Greetings all. Following the posting of Bob Westbury's message regarding a discussion of "civil disobedience" I feel some clarification is needed. Long time CCC listers will be aware that from time to time the question of civil disobedience has come up, and that when it did I have tended to discourage it. I am honestly not a large fan of civil disobedience -- not entirely because of legal implications, but also because of considerations regarding what could be done, and how it could be implemented. Because we are so spread out across the country it is difficult to coordinate any specific activity. Prior to Bob posting his message I had a two hour meeting with him at his home in Calgary. Included in our discussion was the possibility of civil disobedience and we had a good go-around regarding this. In the end run I agreed that Bob could post his message about civil disobedience provided that he did so in the form of a question for discussion purposes. This he has done. A discussion regarding civil disobedience need not entail only those items that are "against the law". As Lois has pointed out, counseling others to break the law could have legal repercussions. So far as I am aware discussing and questioning possibiltities does not. I would like to see a good discussion regarding any possibilities to bring our issue to the public. Something I would personally like to see is a picket line at the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa that would bring to the attention of the media and the public what we are trying to accomplish, and the drawbacks to the conditions and restrictions of S-13. On my trips to Ottawa I have seen similar activities taking place at the Parliament buildings. This is something, however, that would have to be organized and implemented by someone onsite in Ottawa. It is not something that I could do from my location in British Columbia. Others may have different ideas, but my personal feelings are that for the time being, discussions regarding civil disobedience should be restricted to the CCC list. Happy Hunting. Gordon