Rob I was picking apart the PM's speech to show that the census PAST & FUTURE can play an important part in the new centre. I was trying to use his own words to show that him and others that he is FOR the census release just by his own words (whether he realises it or not). I was NOT down grading the centre just stating that more people would be inclined to go there to view the census. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: Robber <[email protected]> To: Tweetybird <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] "History Centre" Hello "Tweetybird", The Canada History Centre and the release of the census are not really related issues for government. From the information at hand so far, it seems that the National Archives will be responsible for the new History Centre (it is also responsible for the Portrait Gallery) which will showcase documents in the Archives collection. The National Archives is also an ally in the fight to open access to the 1911 census and is the department which digitized the 1901 and 1906 censuses and made them available online. Continuing negative reaction to the History Centre may convince the government that heritage spending is controversial and generates bad publicity. That might mean less government money for the Archives, for the digitization of the census, etc, and other worthwhile archival projects. Not guaranteed, but just my thoughts on the matter. Cheers, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Tweetybird [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CCC] "History Centre" Article Published May 26, 2003 SOURCE: The website of the Prime Minister of Canada Canadian Prime Minister Announces "History Centre" REMARKS BY PRIME MINISTER JEAN CHRÉTIEN ANNOUNCING THE CANADA HISTORY CENTRE ALONG WITH MY COMMENTS Speech made May 26, 2003, Ottawa, Ontario PRIME MINISTER. I am pleased to welcome you to the Government Conference Centre. This Centre will soon become the site of one of the most important meetings in its history: one between Canadians and their shared past. Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created. P.M. We must find ways for young Canadians to learn what they share, to know what we have done, and to gain pride in their nation's accomplishments. MY RESPONSE: In order for the ordinary Canadian to be able to take pride in his/her family we must be able to have access to the census records of our ancestors. P.M. Our new Portrait Gallery opposite Parliament Hill will tell the stories through art of Aboriginal hunters on the plains, habitants making maple syrup, and Canadians celebrating their achievements. . MY RESPONSE: These treasures are our heritage about our families but only if we know about our families. My husband was placed in foster homes and it was not till he was past 65 that he discovered he was Metis. This was found out by a search of birth records that led to a search of census records for his grand parents. He now has found his roots. P.M. We must once again strengthen the ties that bind us together and the understanding of Canada that we share. Our past must be near us as we move into the future. The Centre will be an interactive meeting place where scholars, students, and visitors will discover how, as North Americans, we created this nation. MY RESPONSE: Yes I agree that people MIGHT go there. A lot more people will certainly make an effort to go if it means that they will be able to search our census records; PAST & FUTURE ONES P.M. Listen carefully and you can hear echoes in this magnificent building. You can hear the echoes of cheering crowds as soldiers returned home from the wars. Echoes of immigrants arriving from Pier 21 in Halifax, some to stay, some to open up the Canadian West. MY RESPONSE: Yes I am old enough to remember the WAR and the troop trains. The Red Cross & Salvation Army people meeting the trains. But you must realize that the census of 1911 is the last record of a lot of our fathers, sons, brothers uncles etc. P.M. The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their ideas, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history. MY RESPONSE: This will only show prominent people not the ordinary Canadian. This is where the census comes into play for the Genealogist to find their own family historian. P.M. We have succeeded in blazing a trail, not by playing rough and imposing our will, but rather by clearly demonstrating that cooperation, respect and accommodation are preferable to confrontation. MY RESPONSE: This can very easily be accomplished by removing clause #8 from bill S-13 P.M. That our values are the product of our heritage and history. They are the legacy of our shared past, reflecting the long dialogue and negotiations between Canada's French and British settlers, our Aboriginal peoples, and the generations of immigrants that followed. The new Canada History Centre will open a door to the great wealth of our history and our heritage, making these treasures available to the people of Canada and the rest of the world. Our young people will then have the opportunity to discover the great gifts they have inherited from past generations. MY RESPONSE: Yes they will discover the heritage they got from Canadian history but how about THEIR personal heritage from their ancestors? P.M. They will also have a powerful new resource to help them build on those gifts, and pass them on to those who will follow. MY RESPONSE: I understand this will cost the taxpayer 90 million dollars. The people of Canada will not be to happy about this expense. The new "museum" would be much easier to accept if we can visit this centre to view our past census as well as all the rest to follow. Thank you very much Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03 ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003