i know that once i read that mr. phillips was an ombudsman..i went pffffft..another useless and powerless voice who appears to be acting in the best interest of the ppl he serves..sorry folks, i have yet to achieve satisfaction from b.c.'s ombudsman's office and have even taught them a thing or two regarding legislation when they have told me there is no higher appeal..btw has anyone thought of going to our governor general or even to the queen. although, both of the above ppl are mostly figure heads rolled out for dramatic effect during state events..their support regarding this issue would be a great plus. consider, that if queen victoria was not immune to having details of her household published in the british census..and in 2001..again we will get to see all who were living in queen victoria's home..hell..if its okay for a queen's private details to be published..why not the rest of us common folk. oh and shut your eyes..mustn't see that the imfamous mr. brown is living at the castle too. 1881 british census details. Dwelling: Windsor Castle Berks >Census Place: Windsor Castle, Berkshire, England >Source: FHL Film 1341322 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1325 Folio 98 Page >1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace >QUEEN THE W 61 F > Rel: Head > Occ: Queen Of Great Britain & Ireland >Leopold PRINCE H R H THE U 37 M London, London, >Middlesex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Prince >Beatrice PRINCE H R H THE U 23 F > Rel: Daughter > Occ: Princess >Euqenie EX EMPRESS OF THE FRENCH W 43 F > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Ex Empress >Alfred PRINCE OF EDINBURGH 6 M > Rel: Grandson > Occ: Prince >Maria PRINCESS OF EDINBURGH 5 F > Rel: Grand Daughter > Occ: Princess >Victoria PRINCESS OF EDINBURGH 4 F > Rel: Grand Daughter > Occ: Princess >Alexandra PRINCESS OF EDINBURGH 2 F > Rel: Grand Daughter > Occ: Princess >... NORTHAMPTON W 41 F Dublin > Occ: Lady Of The Bedchamber (C S) >Christina D'ARCOS W 39 F Dublin > Occ: Lady In Waiting (C S) >Harriet Lepel PHIPPS U 39 F London Chelsea, London, >Middlesex, England > Occ: Maid Of Honour (C S) >Evelyn MOORE U 24 F Frittenden, Kent, England > Occ: Maid Of Honour (C S) >Louise Maria KORELE U 43 F Bordeaux, France > Occ: Lectrice To The Queen (C S) >Amalie HEIM U 27 F Alsace, Germany > Occ: Governess (Teacher) >George (Visct Torrington) BYNG M 68 M Chatham, Kent, >England > Occ: Lord In Waiting (C S Offo) >Charles Lennox FITZROY W 59 M London Grovenor Place, >London, Middlesex, England > Occ: Lieut General & Equery (C S) >Charles Hugh LINDSAY W 64 M Muncaster Castle, >Cumberland, England > Occ: Lieut Col Groom In Waiting (C S) >Fleetwood Isham EDWRADS M 38 M Thames Ditton, Surrey, >England > Occ: Capt Groom In Waiting (C S) >Franceschini PIETRI U 45 M Corsica Monte Cello (Not A >British Subject) > Occ: Gentleman In Waiting (C S) >Hermann SAHL 49 M Darnstadt Not Nturalized, Germany > Occ: Librian (C B) >Arnold ROYLE M 43 M Lymington, Hampshire, England > Occ: Sutgeon >Harrington SAINSBURY U 27 M St Clement Danes >Westminster > Occ: Physician >Elizabeth HNEDERSON U 58 F Haltwhistle, >Northumberland, England > Occ: Housekeeper (Dom) >Emilie DITTWEILER U 50 F (Not Naturalized), Germany > Occ: Queens Dresser (Dom) >Marie DOWNING U 29 F Snetterton, Norfolk, England > Occ: Queens Dresser (Dom) >Elizabeth MORGAN U 50 F Llangmyne, Montgomery, >Wales > Occ: Dresser (Dom) >Elizabeth DUNLOP U 29 F Ayr, Scotland > Occ: Wardrobe Maid (Dom) >Annie MC DONALD W 48 F Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Wardrobe Maid (Dom) >Elizabeth STEWART U 33 F Crathie, Scotland > Occ: Wardrobe Maid (Dom) >Annie PITCAITHEY W 41 F Banff, Scotland > Occ: Nurse (Dom) >Agnes PICKARD W 34 F Barnstaple, Devon, England > Occ: Nurse (Dom) >Annie GREEN W 19 F Ashford, Kent, England > Occ: Nurse (Dom) >Ernestine TOURNILAT W 27 F Bigny Not Naturalized, >France > Occ: Ladys Maid >Sarah BERRILL W 27 F Yardley, Northampton, England > Occ: Ladys Maid >Elizabeth GINEVER W 33 F Hagley, Worcester, England > Occ: Ladys Maid >Mary Anne GARRETT W 38 F Needingworth, Huntingdon, >England > Occ: Ladys Maid >Edmond HEALE M 61 M London, London, Middlesex, England > Occ: Controller (C S) don't look..he's not there..and wasn't he a groom..at balmoral? >John BROWN U 54 M Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Queens Personal Servant (Dom) >Jabez IRELAND W 62 M Ashburton, Devon, England > Occ: Secretary (C S) >Chas. F. WAGENRIEDEN M 60 M Stuttgart Naturalized >British Subject, Germany > Occ: Page Of chambers (C S) >George FLEMING M 65 M Buxted, Sussex, England > Occ: Page Of Backstairs (C S) >Thomas NEWELL 59 M Little Bowden, Northampton, England > Occ: Page Of Backstairs (C S) >Christian DOLL W 68 M Kirn Naturalized British Subject, >Prussia > Occ: Page Of Presence (C S) >George WAITE U 46 M Moulsoe, Buckingham, England > Occ: Page Of Presence (C S O S) >Charles ROBERTSON M 54 M Logieraite, Perth, Scotland > Occ: Page Of Presence (C S O S) >George HOLLIS M 65 M London St George Hanover Sq, >London, Middlesex, England > Occ: Gentleman Porter (C S O S) >Charles MICHIE W 53 M Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Gentleman Porter (C S O S) >Eugene THION W 56 M Paris Not Naturalized, France > Occ: Master Cook (Dom) >Walter William ROADNIGHT U 23 M Uxbridge, >Middlesex, England > Occ: Master Cook (Dom) >Henry GODFREY U 25 M London, London, Middlesex, England > Occ: Roasting Cook (Dom) >William Chas. HART U 22 M Pimlico, Middlesex, England > Occ: Master Cook (Dom) >Charles DELORME U 24 M Palais Eau Not Naturalized, France > Occ: Pastry Cook (Dom) >Samuel PONDER M 48 M London Westminster, London, >Middlesex, England > Occ: Confectioner (Dom) >Alexander ROSE U 18 M Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland > Occ: Cooks Apprentice (Dom) >John George LINDSEY U 19 M Brighton, Sussex, England > Occ: Cooks Apprentice (Dom) >Leonard W. GOWER U 17 M New Windsor, Berkshire, >England > Occ: Cooks Apprentice (Dom) >Henry W. I. GORING U 16 M New Windsor, Berkshire, >England > Occ: Cooks Apprentice (Dom) >Edward MUSK M 40 M Putney Heath, Surrey, England > Occ: Storekeeper (Dom) >James MC HARDY U 18 M Strathdon, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Queens Piper (O) ((C S)) >Francis CLARK U 39 M Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Queens Highland Servant (Dom) >William PHILIP U 22 M Corgarff, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Queens Highland Servant (Dom) >John PHILIP U 20 M Corgarff, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Highland Servant (Dom) >Jeane BAPTISTE U 43 M Savoy Villard Not Naturalized > Occ: Valet (Dom) >John CARVER M 56 M Dartford, Kent, England > Occ: Queens Messenger (C S O) >John KIRBY M 58 M Ashley, Northampton, England > Occ: Table Decker (Dom) >George WARREN M 42 M Wareham, Dorset, England > Occ: Telegraphist >Wm.Sophnes Christian NEILSON U 20 M Copenhagen Not >Naturalized, Denmark > Occ: Clerk Of Kitchen (Dom) >Adolphus Fredk.Wm. LOYD M 50 M New Windsor, Berkshire, >England > Occ: Clerk Of Kitchen (Dom) >Charles HANNIS U 30 M London Pimlico, London, Middlesex, >England > Occ: Cellerman (Dom) >Martha CRAWFORD U 24 F North Shields, Northumberland, >England > Occ: Kitcxhen Maid (Dom) >Margaret Gordon REID U 23 F Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Kitcxhen Maid (Dom) >Ann LAMOND U 24 F Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Pantry Maid (Dom) >Margaret MC DONALD U 28 F Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Pantry Maid (Dom) >Annie PARSONS U 23 F Kings Crompton, Somerset, England > Occ: Confectionery Maid (Dom) >Lucy SELL U 26 F Stapleford, Cambridge, England > Occ: Confectionery Maid (Dom) >Mary WINES U 28 F South Petherton, Somerset, England > Occ: Confectionery Maid (Dom) >Caroline OLIVER U 51 F Kensington, Middlesex, England > Occ: Coffee Room Woman >Elizabeth MICHIE U 35 F Glencairn, Scotland > Occ: Coffee Room Woman >Jane Cole MANNERING W 37 F Woolwich, Kent, England > Occ: Coffee Room Woman >Sarah OAKES W 54 F Salisbury, Wiltshire, England > Occ: Linen Room Woman (Dom) >Eliza DRUCE U 36 F Powderham, Devon, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Jane ROBINSON U 26 F Oving, Sussex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Harriet Emma WICKENDEN U 28 F West Cowes, Isle of Wight, >Hampshire, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Jane CONNALLY U 33 F London Lambeth, London, Middlesex, >England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Annie Eliza SMITH U 28 F Tedworth, Wiltshire, >England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Charlotte BOTTING U 49 F Shipley, Sussex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Dorcas RAWLE U 31 F Leynton, Devon, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Caroline RAYNOR U 35 F Little Cornard, Suffolk, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Stewart Agnes JOHNSTONE U 30 F London, London, Middlesex, >England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Caroline THORPE U 30 F Stanion, Northampton, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Harriet ELLIS U 62 F Ruabon, Denbigh, Wales > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Selina PURVUER U 37 F Cheltenham, Gloucester, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Mary Ann TROTT U 41 F Tiverton, Devon, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Emily MORTON U 27 F London Regents Park, London, >Middlesex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Sophia KEROGUE U 48 F Criping Braintree, Essex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Elise MAURER U 39 F Switzerland > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Jane FRASER U 45 F Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Fanny HILEY U 23 F New Windsor, Berkshire, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Sarah SMITH U 65 F Canterbury, Kent, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Martha HUDSON U 48 F Criping Braintree, Essex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Harriet STOKES U 47 F Trowbridge, Somerset, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Sarah HAMPTON U 50 F Kensington, Middlesex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Mary Ann LEDGER U 40 F Windsor, Berkshire, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Jessie GAUDIE U 39 F Montrose, Forfar, Scotland > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Margaret FELTHAM U 38 F Windsor, Berkshire, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Rachel WALTON U 39 F Croyden, Surrey, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Marion DOVE U 34 F London, Middlesex, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Elizabeth REYNOLDS U 34 F Eye, Suffolk, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Ciuenllien DAVIES U 33 F Llangadock, Carmarthen, >Wales > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Anne MACKAY U 37 F Crubinmore, Inverness, Scotland > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Elizabeth GRENNOW U 28 F Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Mary Ann GILL U 56 F Kenn, Devon, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Isabella PRESCOTT W 46 F Gateshead, Durham, England > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >Margaret NEWMAN W 55 F Stonehaven, Scotland > Occ: Housemaid (Dom) >William HENDERSON W 33 M Clapton, Middlesex, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Arthur Wyndham ATKINS W 30 M Wells, Somerset, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >William WHITE W 50 M Brighton, Sussex, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Joseph SEYMOUR M 42 M New Windsor, Berkshire, England > Occ: Lampkighter (Dom) >William WOOD U 27 M Terling, Essex, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >George SPEARING U 25 M Wareham, Dorset, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Henri DUBEY U 33 M Fribourg, Switzerland > Occ: Footman (Dom) >John MEREDITH U 26 M Pomlico, Middlesex, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Charles MARTIN M 35 M Shinfield, Berkshire, England > Occ: Assistant Butler (Dom) >George GEAR M 23 M Aldershot, Surrey, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Arthur EDNEY M 28 M East Cowes, Isle of Wight, >Hampshire, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Albert Duncan SLY M 25 M Windsor, Berkshire, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Thomas THOMSON M 29 M Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Alexander STEWART M 24 M Crathie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Alfred WILKINS M 33 M Windsor, Berkshire, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >William Edwd. NEVE M 19 M Pluckley, Kent, England > Occ: Footman (Dom) >Frederick John TURNER M 55 M Stepney, Middlesex, England > Occ: Night Watchman maybe they don't want us to know who was living at 24 sussex drive? or can you say charlotte town and NAFTA? roz -----Original Message----- From: Mike Carter [SMTP:carter@unb.ca] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:40 AM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC-L] Secret Gov't Dossiers Could it be the Government of Canada or its sometimes less than upfront representatives are creating this whole database privacy issue as a smoke screen to cloud the census issue at hand??? Would not be the first time............... Michael Carter University of New Brunswick Department of Physical Plant PO Box 4400 Fredericton NB E3B 5A3 Phone: 506-453-4714 Fax: 506-453-5183 E-mail: carter@unb.ca