Hello Muriel, I did send a letter of to Brian Tobin, and here is the responce Ireceived from Pamela White. Larry Lalonde Ontario, Canada ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ________________________________________________________________________ ____ the responce from Pamela White ----- Original Message ----- From: <pamela.white@statcan.ca> To: <llalonde@better.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: RE: Article from the globeandmail.com Web Centre Your e-mail of January 14, 2001, to the Honourable Brian Tobin, Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, on the subject of the release of census records has been passed to Statistics Canada for response. There has been considerable public debate and interest on the part of genealogists, historians and archivists who had expected that the 1911 census records would be publicly available in 2003, 92 years after the taking of the census. Recognizing the importance of historical research but also taking into account the privacy concerns of Canadians, an Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records was created to provide independent, expert advice on the legal, privacy and archival implications of releasing historical census records. The report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records was released on December 15th by Minister Tobin. In his announcement, the Minister indicated that further broad based consultation with all Canadians is needed in order to ensure that, if access to historical census records is provided, it is done in a manner that respects the government's deep commitment to privacy. This consultation will take place as part of the already announced administrative and legislative review of the Access to Information Act and Privacy Act. A copy of the news release announcing the Expert Panel's report follows. Pamela White Director, Data Access and Control Services Statistics Canada ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ________________________________________________________________________ ____ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE December 15, 2000 Minister Tobin Releases the Report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records Ottawa -- Brian Tobin, Minister of Industry and Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, today released the report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. In releasing the report, Mr. Tobin conveyed the government's appreciation to the members of the Expert Panel for their work and for the time and effort they invested in this important matter. The Minister indicated that the issues at stake are complex and far reaching. The government is committed to protecting the privacy rights of Canadians who were given an assurance of confidentiality at the time they completed the 1911 Census while, at the same time, the government must consider the legitimate needs of genealogists and others for access to historical census records. In light of these concerns the Minister indicated that further broad based consultation with all Canadians is needed. This consultation will take place as part of the already announced administrative and legislative review of the Access to Information and the Privacy Acts. The government's primary reason for undertaking additional consultation is to ensure that, if access to historical census records is provided, this is done in a manner that respects the government's deep commitment to privacy. To find out more about the report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records, please visit the web site at www.statcan.ca. -30- For further information, please contact Heidi Bonnell, Press Secretary, Office of the Minister of Industry at (613) 995-9001. Ce communiqué est aussi disponible en français. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- -----Original Message----- From: llalonde@better.net [mailto:llalonde@better.net] Sent: January 14, 2001 1:21 AM To: CorrespondenceMinister@ic.gc.ca Subject: Article from the globeandmail.com Web Centre This e-mail has been sent to you by Larry Lalonde (llalonde@better.net) from the globeandmail.com Web Centre. Message: Message: Jan. 13th, 2001 Come on Brian, Please wake up and smell the coffee. It seems like you are a fence sitter. Maybe you should get off and do what you are payed to do SERVE THE PUBLIC. We the Canadian Public are getting pretty tired of throwing any historical material to the dump. Take a hard look at other countries, they are releasing their censuses to the public. I have been working on researching my family history for the past nine years. I feel as a tax payer that I have full rights to this material to help carry on my family history studies. This is VERY INPORTANT TO ME AND MY FAMILY. So Please Mr. Tobin wake up and smell the coffee. Your province Newfoundland released all their census material up to 1945. I will be died and gone so will my children, their children for the next 4-5 generations or more before the rest of us in Canada even catch up to what YOUR province has released up to NOW. (1945) PLEASE RELEASE OUR CENSUS RECORDS ARE WE ANY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER COUNTRIES. The more I look at what is going on in this country CANADA it seems like more and more of OUR FREEDOM is being removed. The our government working for us the Canadian people are being more and more controlled by the government. What happened to our FREE DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. From the Oxford Dictionary Quote "democratic, - of, like, practising advocating, or constituting democracy or a democracy. 2 favouring social equality." I would really like to know why you think we should spend more moneyon this LISTEN to the historical society. -------------------------------------------------- The Globe and Mail, Thursday, January 11, 2001 Show us the data Historical census records are crucial to understanding ourselves as a people, says history professor BILL WAISER. Ottawa must make the material available By Bill Waiser
Hi Larry. Thank you for sending this. I will add it to his correspondence log as soon as I have time. It would appear obvious that like his predecessor, Mr. Tobin is unlikely to respond personally to anything we send to him. The response from Dr. White will be the same sent to anyone writing Mr. Tobin and does nothing to respond to the questions you raise. Thank you for you continued interest and support. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Lalonde" <llalonde@better.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 17 January, 2001 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [CCC] Globe and Mail article on the Canadian Census Issue Hello Muriel, I did send a letter of to Brian Tobin, and here is the responce Ireceived from Pamela White. Larry Lalonde Ontario, Canada ____________________________________________________________________ ____ ____ ____________________________________________________________________ ____ ____ the responce from Pamela White ----- Original Message ----- From: <pamela.white@statcan.ca> To: <llalonde@better.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: RE: Article from the globeandmail.com Web Centre Your e-mail of January 14, 2001, to the Honourable Brian Tobin, Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, on the subject of the release of census records has been passed to Statistics Canada for response. There has been considerable public debate and interest on the part of genealogists, historians and archivists who had expected that the 1911 census records would be publicly available in 2003, 92 years after the taking of the census. Recognizing the importance of historical research but also taking into account the privacy concerns of Canadians, an Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records was created to provide independent, expert advice on the legal, privacy and archival implications of releasing historical census records. The report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records was released on December 15th by Minister Tobin. In his announcement, the Minister indicated that further broad based consultation with all Canadians is needed in order to ensure that, if access to historical census records is provided, it is done in a manner that respects the government's deep commitment to privacy. This consultation will take place as part of the already announced administrative and legislative review of the Access to Information Act and Privacy Act. A copy of the news release announcing the Expert Panel's report follows. Pamela White Director, Data Access and Control Services Statistics Canada ____________________________________________________________________ ____ ____ ____________________________________________________________________ ____ ____ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE December 15, 2000 Minister Tobin Releases the Report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records Ottawa -- Brian Tobin, Minister of Industry and Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, today released the report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. In releasing the report, Mr. Tobin conveyed the government's appreciation to the members of the Expert Panel for their work and for the time and effort they invested in this important matter. The Minister indicated that the issues at stake are complex and far reaching. The government is committed to protecting the privacy rights of Canadians who were given an assurance of confidentiality at the time they completed the 1911 Census while, at the same time, the government must consider the legitimate needs of genealogists and others for access to historical census records. In light of these concerns the Minister indicated that further broad based consultation with all Canadians is needed. This consultation will take place as part of the already announced administrative and legislative review of the Access to Information and the Privacy Acts. The government's primary reason for undertaking additional consultation is to ensure that, if access to historical census records is provided, this is done in a manner that respects the government's deep commitment to privacy. To find out more about the report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records, please visit the web site at www.statcan.ca. -30- For further information, please contact Heidi Bonnell, Press Secretary, Office of the Minister of Industry at (613) 995-9001. Ce communiqué est aussi disponible en français. -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------- -----Original Message----- From: llalonde@better.net [mailto:llalonde@better.net] Sent: January 14, 2001 1:21 AM To: CorrespondenceMinister@ic.gc.ca Subject: Article from the globeandmail.com Web Centre This e-mail has been sent to you by Larry Lalonde (llalonde@better.net) from the globeandmail.com Web Centre. Message: Message: Jan. 13th, 2001 Come on Brian, Please wake up and smell the coffee. It seems like you are a fence sitter. Maybe you should get off and do what you are payed to do SERVE THE PUBLIC. We the Canadian Public are getting pretty tired of throwing any historical material to the dump. Take a hard look at other countries, they are releasing their censuses to the public. I have been working on researching my family history for the past nine years. I feel as a tax payer that I have full rights to this material to help carry on my family history studies. This is VERY INPORTANT TO ME AND MY FAMILY. So Please Mr. Tobin wake up and smell the coffee. Your province Newfoundland released all their census material up to 1945. I will be died and gone so will my children, their children for the next 4-5 generations or more before the rest of us in Canada even catch up to what YOUR province has released up to NOW. (1945) PLEASE RELEASE OUR CENSUS RECORDS ARE WE ANY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER COUNTRIES. The more I look at what is going on in this country CANADA it seems like more and more of OUR FREEDOM is being removed. The our government working for us the Canadian people are being more and more controlled by the government. What happened to our FREE DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. From the Oxford Dictionary Quote "democratic, - of, like, practising advocating, or constituting democracy or a democracy. 2 favouring social equality." I would really like to know why you think we should spend more moneyon this LISTEN to the historical society. -------------------------------------------------- The Globe and Mail, Thursday, January 11, 2001 Show us the data Historical census records are crucial to understanding ourselves as a people, says history professor BILL WAISER. Ottawa must make the material available By Bill Waiser