Greetings All. On Tuesday 20 July 2003 Prime Minister Paul Martin announced the makeup of his new Cabinet. David Emerson (Vancouver Kingsway, BC) was appointed as the new Minister for Industry and Minister responsibe for Statistics Canada. As a newly elected Member of Parliament Mr. Emerson is unlikely to be aware of the battle we have been in for the past several years to regain the same unrestricted access to Census records after 1906 that we currently have for 240 years of records up to that time. Please take a little of your time to write him an email, or better yet a snail-mail letter, to congratulate him on his recent election and appointment as Minister of Industry. At the same time inform him of our efforts to regain the public access to Historic Census records that has been withheld (believed illegally) by the Chief Statistician of Canada. Inform him that the Access to Information and Privacy Acts (and Regulations) make specific provision for 'personal information' collected through Census or Survey to be made available to 'any person or body' for purposes of research 92 years after collection. Ask him to immediately direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to return care and control of records of the 1911 National Census of Canada to Ian E. Wilson -- National Librarian and Archivist -- for subsequent public access in accordance with the ATI and Privacy Acts. Ask him to immediately direct the Chief Statistician to obey the Laws of Canada. Advise him that the conditions and restrictions of the now defunct Bill S-13, in particular the so-called 'informed consent' clause for future Censuses, are totally unacceptable to the genealogical and historic communities that seek to regain the public access currently provided for in existing legislation. Advise him that any Bill containing conditions and restrictions similar to those in Bill S-13 would be similarly unacceptable. Advise him that we do not believe any legislative change is necessary to regain the public access we seek. Existing legislation currently provides for that access. If he feels otherwise such access could be further clarified by the addition of a single clause -- similar to the following -- to the Statistics Act: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." Such a clause would ensure continued public access to Historic Census records in accordance with existing legislation, would not add unnecessary and undesirable conditions or restrictions to that access, and would not create the necessity for a further costly bureaucracy to manage or control unnecessary conditions and restrictions. Further, it would not create a legislative conflict by conferring powers to the Chief Statistician that currently reside only with the National Librarian and Archivist. Contact information for Mr. Emerson is as follows: The Honourable David Emerson Minister of Industry 11th Floor, East Tower C.D. Howe Building 235 Queen Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H5 Canada Tel.: (613) 995-9001 Fax: (613) 992-0302 E-mail: Minister.Industry@ic.gc.ca In corresponding with any of our parliamentary representatives please be polite and respectful. We are seeking their support. Include full contact information, i.e. name, mailing address, email address etc., to enable them to respond to your message. Please copy to me any responses you might receive so that their Correspondence Log on the Post 1901 Census Project website might be updated. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

Following is an e-mail i received this morning from Scott Brison via his constituency assistant. Typical political non-commital answer. Dear Ms. Lane, Thank you for your e-mail concerning the Canadian Health Measures Survey (CHMS) and individual records from the 1911 Census. In order to address longstanding limitations within Canada's health surveillance system, the federal government has given Statistics Canada a mandate to develop a direct measure health survey. As such, Statistics Canada is developing the CHMS: a voluntary survey based on direct measure of 5,000 to 10,000 people in a nationally representative sample. For this survey, 'direct measures' could include both blood and urine samples as well as height and weight and fitness. Collecting information from a nationally representative sample in order to extrapolate trends and distributional patterns of selected diseases and health risk factors falls within the expertise of Statistics Canada. The CHMS will collect health information on Canadians that cannot be captured or may be inaccurately reported. This information will help policy makers understand the true extent of health problems and to design better policies to prevent and manage these problems. On the issue of the 1911 Census, individual records cannot be made available because of confidentiality provisions in the legislation under which that census was taken. Still, this government recognizes that it must balance the need to protect personal privacy with the demands for access to historical census records. As a result, the Government announced in February 2003 that future releases of census records, beginning with the 1911 Census, would be governed by amendments to the Statistics Act. This is why the Government introduced Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act, and the Honourable Lucienne Robillard, as Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, is reviewing the matter including any legislation to amend the Statistics Act. Thank you again for your e-mail. I hope that this information will be of assistance. Sincerely, Janice Robinson Constituency Assistant Office of the Honourable Scott Brison Member of Parliament Kings-Hants 902-542-4010 (p) 902-542-4184 (f)

Thank you Shirley. It would be nice if the assistants to our MPs would get up to date on things. Lucienne Robillard is no longer Minister of Industry and so will not be "reviewing the matter". Conditions and restrictions contained in Bill S-13 were totally unacceptable to the genealogical and historical communities. It is dead and should remain buried. To All. When forwarding email messages received from MPs or Senators please include the original addressing header as I have done with the message below from Shirley. Doing so, when these are added to a Correspondence Log , will allow the reader to see exactly when the message was sent by the parliamentarian. As a side benefit these headers will sometimes include an additional email address at which an MP or Senator may be contacted. When adding an email to a Correspondence Log and I think it appropriate for personal privacy I frequently edit the header to remove the recipient's address as I have done with Shirley's address below. Thank you. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley" To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:08 AM Subject: [CCC] 1911 census release Following is an e-mail i received this morning from Scott Brison via his constituency assistant. Typical political non-commital answer. Dear Ms. Lane, Thank you for your e-mail concerning the Canadian Health Measures Survey (CHMS) and individual records from the 1911 Census. In order to address longstanding limitations within Canada's health surveillance system, the federal government has given Statistics Canada a mandate to develop a direct measure health survey. As such, Statistics Canada is developing the CHMS: a voluntary survey based on direct measure of 5,000 to 10,000 people in a nationally representative sample. For this survey, 'direct measures' could include both blood and urine samples as well as height and weight and fitness. Collecting information from a nationally representative sample in order to extrapolate trends and distributional patterns of selected diseases and health risk factors falls within the expertise of Statistics Canada. The CHMS will collect health information on Canadians that cannot be captured or may be inaccurately reported. This information will help policy makers understand the true extent of health problems and to design better policies to prevent and manage these problems. On the issue of the 1911 Census, individual records cannot be made available because of confidentiality provisions in the legislation under which that census was taken. Still, this government recognizes that it must balance the need to protect personal privacy with the demands for access to historical census records. As a result, the Government announced in February 2003 that future releases of census records, beginning with the 1911 Census, would be governed by amendments to the Statistics Act. This is why the Government introduced Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act, and the Honourable Lucienne Robillard, as Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, is reviewing the matter including any legislation to amend the Statistics Act. Thank you again for your e-mail. I hope that this information will be of assistance. Sincerely, Janice Robinson Constituency Assistant Office of the Honourable Scott Brison Member of Parliament Kings-Hants 902-542-4010 (p) 902-542-4184 (f) ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Mr. Emerson's credentials in business and in government taken from his election campaign web site look good and as a fresh face on the scene in Ottawa maybe he will shake things up. L. Harvie Halifax, Nova Scotia David Emerson attended the University of Alberta and obtained his Bachelors Degree in Economics in 1968 and his Masters Degree in Economics in 1970. He then went on to Queens University where he received his PhD in Economics. While completing his doctorate in 1972, he worked as a researcher for the Economic Council of Canada in Ottawa. In 1975, his passion for public service brought him to British Columbia, where he quickly rose through the ranks to become the province's Deputy Minister of Finance in 1984. In 1986, he left government to become President and CEO of the Western and Pacific Bank of Canada in Vancouver. Four years later, he returned to the provincial government as Deputy Minister of Finance, where he was quickly promoted to Deputy Minister to the Premier and then President of BC Trade Development Corporation. In 1992, he was appointed to lead the newly created Vancouver International Airport Authority, which was responsible for developing, operating and improving the airport's services and facilities. Today, the airport is a major economic generator for Greater Vancouver and the province. In 1998, Mr. Emerson was appointed President and CEO of Canfor Corporation, BC's largest forestry company, leading it through one of the most difficult periods for the forest sector in BC. > This is one whose reaction I look forward to seeing! > > George Lockwood Trigg, Ph.D. > Genealogical Researcher > Specializing in middle and lower > Hudson Valley and > southern Ontario > 18 Duzine Road > New Paltz, NY 12561-1304 > U. S. A. > Tel: 845-255-9488 > FAX: 845-255-9657 > >

The Honourable David Emerson Minister of Industry 11th Floor, East Tower C.D. Howe Building 235 Queen Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0H5 Canada Tel.: (613) 995-9001 Fax: (613) 992-0302 E-mail: Minister.Industry@ic.gc.ca 20 July 2004 Dear Mr. Emerson: Please allow me to extend my congratulations and best wishes on your appointment as Minister of Industry. There is a matter of great concern to me and as the minister responsible for Statistics Canada, you have the authority to correct a situation with respect to release of Historic Census records that has gone on for much too long. Will you please direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? And would you introduce a Government Bill that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." Yours respectfully, Leland Harvie 51 Swan Crescent Halifax, Nova Scotia B3M 1T7

The following important notice is from a member of the Canada Census Committee -- many thanks, Neil! I firmly believe, with all the new technology, this message should be read and remembered. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil" <nelensen@shaw.ca> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: RCMP Bulletin Ladies and Gentlemen Advisory from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Please take note and forward to any/all interested parties. RCMP Bulletin Keep alert for people with cell phones in hand standing near you in the checkout line at retail stores, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. With the new camera cell phones, they can take a picture of your credit card, which gives them your name, number, and expiration date. Identification theft is one of the fastest growing crimes today, and this is just another example of the means that are being used. So, be aware of your surroundings. Please forward to all your friends and family, acquaintances too. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/04

To all:- [Posted only to CCC list, Committee and Friends] Our new Members of Parliament have returned to "school", learning how things are done in the House of Commons. The column appeared in today's Toronto Star, July 14, written by Mary Gordon of the Ottawa Bureau. Classes will begin tomorrow for the more than 100 new MPs -- acquainting them with various types of procedure, even private member's bills. A second orientation session will be held in the fall before resumption of Parliament. On Page A6 of the Toronto Star there are various categories of the new MPs -- one who is possibly scheduled to attain a Cabinet posting was the appointee of Brampton-Springdale, Dr. Ruby Dhalla, a chiropractor and formerly film actress in her native country. These sessions would be very interesting on CPAC. Muriel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/14/04

Greetings All. I have contacted Dan O'Donnell, investigator in the Office of the Information Commissioner that has been handling our complaints regarding StatCan's refusal to return care and control of the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. He indicated that they have received the last of the responses to their inquiries and so the investigation into our complaints was in the final stages. He stated that he felt, but could not guarantee, that letters giving the response of the Information Commissioner to our complaints would likely be forthcoming within two or three weeks. Delays in receiving this response have been frustrating, however Information Commissioner John Reid has indicated that he wished to ensure that all the 'i's were dotted and the 't's were crossed in his investigation. Should his decision be to proceed to the courts on our behalf he did not wish his case to fail because something had been overlooked. We are optimistic that the decision regarding the 1911 Census will be similar to the one reached for the 1906 Census, and for the same reasons. In that instance Mr. Reid concluded that there was no reason for the records to be withheld from public access and he was prepared to proceed to the courts on our behalf. On the same day (24 January 2003) that his action was filed with the courts the 1906 Census was released and placed online. We will have to be patient for just a little longer. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

Dear Muriel; Thank for your note. I very much appreciate your kind words of congratulations. Regarding the release of census data I would expect that I will be receiving a gold check mark in the next few days from the website you mentioned. Our party critic Mr. James Rajotte has been doing a great deal of work on this matter, and I notice he has a gold check beside his name on the web page. I appreciate knowing your views on this issue and am pleased to be given the opportunity of providing you with our position. The Conservative Party supports the preservation of census records and the subsequent transfer of these records to the National Archives for public release. We believe that keeping the records confidential for the historical 92-year period is an adequate length of time, and that this is generally consistent with the practice in Britain and the United States, where records are kept confidential for 100 and 72 years respectively. However, the Conservative Party did not support the census legislation tabled in 2003 in the House of Commons (S-13 An Act to Amend the Statistics Act). S-13 is flawed as it will allow limited access to "tombstone" census information after 92 years. Full access to census records will only be allowed after 112 years. We believe S-13 further complicates matters by allowing access after 92 years only to designated individuals. The designation process will result in a complicated bureaucracy, added costs and the question of who will police the census. Let me assure you that we will continue to examine the release of census material and will take into consideration the concerns of those most affected by this matter when reviewing any relevant legislation. Sincerely, Gary Schellenberger, M.P. Perth-Wellington Room 368, Confederation Building House of Commons Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6 (613) 992 6124 =============== To Mr. Gary Schellenberger, MP - Perth-Wellington riding:- Congratulations on your election in the Perth-Wellington riding. We sincerely hope you will be in agreement with the following. Canadians, assisted by people of other countries, have been working since March 1999 for the release of the 1911 census records, which were scheduled to have been released June 1, 2003. Census records are not only necessary when searching for family members, but these were also the last records enumerated before World War One. To date we have both 1901 and 1906 online, the latter of three provinces http://automatedgenealogy.com/ If you check you will notice only basic details are given - no private data.The microfiche copies will contain more, and I learned my grandfather earned $1600.00 in 1901 -- not much by today's standards. The Canada Census Committee have a scoreboard -- you are on http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ON At present we do not have an existing census release bill, but are collecting petitions -- see http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ Sincerely hope you will exchange the Blue ? for a Gold tick meaning YES. If not, we request you give us your reasons - 92 years is long enough. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 7/9/04

To all:- A warm welcome is extended to Polly Shaw from United States and Linda Wright from Canada -- Both are very interested and we hope many more newcomers are added to either the mail list (CCC), Canada Census Committee, Friends list or the special list Gordon has. It is necessary we keep adding interested people as many of the list administrators do not either understand how important the 1911 census records are to Canadians or personally are not interested in census records. Just a personal tip:- Many of the Members of Parliament do not know what information is on census records - they believe private data, e.g. income is available -- that is another department. I intend to print my family record from http://automatedgenealogy.com/ and forward it with any letter I write. Only one page is available -- the second page has Origin, Place of Birth, Religion and Occupation -- only basic data. Let us know of interested ones to add to the census lists -- keep the petitions coming -- today's was from the Ottawa Branch OGS. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 7/10/04

Greetings All. FYI. The lastest of my columns on Post 1901 Census has been posted this morning. It may be accessed at: http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce106.htm Have a great day! Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Listers Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was through the BHC list that I got involved with the CCC list. BHC means British Home Children....we have been researching info about our families and of course, need census reports to do so. If interested, do go check the stories and history about such children... just go to British Home Children site and read all about it. Lorraine

Hi Lorraine You directed your query to the Canada-Census-Campaign mail list and I see nothing to indicate you sent it also to the British-Home-Children mail list so I copy them in on this response. I am not certain on which Rootsweb server the BHC list is on but there have been problems on their Server 2 for the past week or more. That may explain why your message did not come through. If so, when the server is up and running all the backed up messages will likely come through. To answer your question regarding the date of the 1911 Census - the following was extracted from the Instructions to Officers and Enumerators for the 1911 Census. "4. Date for recording population. The date selected for recording the population is Thursday, first day of June 1911. The decisive hour of reckoning is made 12 o'clock or midnight on the night of 31st May to 1st June, so that every one born before that hour and every one dying after it are to be counted in the population." In accordance with the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, the 1911 Census should have been made available to us after 1 June 2003. As everyone is aware that has not happened. Because of one individual -- the Chief Statistician of Canada -- who refuses to obey the laws of Canada we do not have the access that we are entitled to. If your grandmother was in Alberta from 1901 she should be found on the 1906 Census of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba which is online at the National Archives website. You express probably the main reason we seek to regain public access to Historic Census records -- to find information on our ancestors. To achieve this goal we will all have to work a little longer. I hope that all who read this message will download and collect signatures on our NEW petitions. I wish you, and everyone else - including BHC descendants - every success in finding their family. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Nason" <lorrainenason@webtv.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: [CCC] missing Dear Listers Where have all the BHCers gone? Since the CCC has come on, all the BHC letters seem to have stopped. Is there nothing more to say or do? I know we all are waiting for the release of the 1911 census, but surely other things are happening, eh. I wonder what date the census was taken. My Gran moved to Alberta between 1901 and 1911, but, ther is no record of her anywhere. Here she was, married in 1900, had 5 chidren and lost her husband (also a BHC) in 1911 and there is no record of her existence. I guess that is the reason we all hunt. I sent this message several days ago actually, but it never came through on the BHC list Lorraine granddaughter of 2 BHC's

Dear Listers Where have all the BHCers gone? Since the CCC has come on, all the BHC letters seem to have stopped. Is there nothing more to say or do? I know we all are waiting for the release of the 1911 census, but surely other things are happening, eh. I wonder what date the census was taken. My Gran moved to Alberta between 1901 and 1911, but, ther is no record of her anywhere. Here she was, married in 1900, had 5 chidren and lost her husband (also a BHC) in 1911 and there is no record of her existence. I guess that is the reason we all hunt. I sent this message several days ago actually, but it never came through on the BHC list Lorraine granddaughter of 2 BHC's

Grodon B. In surfing for something for my last post I came across something about a farewell 'party' (?) for Roch Carrier but as it was not what I was looking for I paid little attention to it. Unfortunately since receiving your message I have been unable to find it again. If I manage to find it I will post the information to the list. Happy Hunting. Gordon W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Booth" <gbooth@magma.ca> To: <robber@rogers.com>; <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>; <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions This is an interesting discussion. Although the Government Electronic Directory Services (GEDS) < http://direct.srv.gc.ca/cgi-bin/direct500/BE#TOP > has no record of Roch Carrier the National Librarian (Has he retired?), it shows that Mr. Wilson's title and coordinates are as follows: Ian E Wilson Librarian and Archivist of Canada Library and Archives Canada OFFICE OF THE LIBRARIAN AND ARCHIVIST OF CANADA 395 Wellington Street Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1A 0N4 Telephone: (613) 992-2473 Fax: (613) 992-9010 Internet: Ian.Wilson@lac-bac.gc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Robber [mailto:robber@rogers.com] Sent: July 7, 2004 8:29 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Hello again, Jeff's authoritative answer makes me doubt my earlier post! But the new legislation created the "Library and Archives of Canada" under the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada". The institution, however, is using a shorter form of the name, dropping "of" to be known as "Library and Archives Canada". Check out their new web site www.collectionscanada.ca. I had understood that Ian Wilson was appointed Librarian and Archivist on 21 June when the Act came into effect, unless Jeff knows something I don't? Cheers, Rob <snip>

Rob and All. Ian Wilson was appointed 21 May 2004, on an interim basis, as Librarian and Archivist of Canada. It is my sincere hope that he will become the 'permanent' head of the new organization. In my personal conversations with him he has been fully supportive of our efforts to regain the public access to Historic Census records that we are currently denied. We do not know what the position might be of anyone else that might be appointed to that position. The 'official' title of Mr. Wilson is the 'Librarian and Archivist of Canada' (short version 'Librarian and Archivist'). In reading the Act I can find nothing in it that specifically indicates he would be 'officially' called anything else. However in govenrment, as in most organizations, titles and names are frequently informally shortened and I do not expect that Mr. Wilson would voice objection to being referred to as the 'National Archivist' -- or as 'National Librarian' for that matter. The National Archives Act and the National Library Act were both repealed by the enactment of the Library and Archives of Canada Act. Some clauses of the new Act, in my view, are not as strong as clauses in the National Archives Act and may not support our goal as strongly. I refer specifically to the ability of the Archivist to determine what government records 'shall' be deposited in the archives. One clause of interest is that the term of office for the Librarian and Archivist of Canada is now 'during pleasure' whereas in the National Archives Act the term of office was for seven years. In this respect the Librarian and Archivist is now on the same footing as is the Chief Statistician. Further information regarding the changes re: the Library and Archives is availabe at: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/5/11/a11-400-e.html Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robber" <robber@rogers.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Hello again, Jeff's authoritative answer makes me doubt my earlier post! But the new legislation created the "Library and Archives of Canada" under the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada". The institution, however, is using a shorter form of the name, dropping "of" to be known as "Library and Archives Canada". Check out their new web site www.collectionscanada.ca. I had understood that Ian Wilson was appointed Librarian and Archivist on 21 June when the Act came into effect, unless Jeff knows something I don't? Cheers, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Paul, Jeff: SEN [mailto:PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA] Sent: July 7, 2004 8:11 AM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Actually Rob is half right. The name of the institution is the "Library and Archives of Canada". But Ian Wilson's title is still National Archivist. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne -----Original Message----- From: Robber [mailto:robber@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:36 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Hello everyone, A quick reminder for the phrasing of these letters that we no longer have a "National Archivist" or a "National Archives Act". As of 21 June 2004, the National Archives and National Library merged to form "Library and Archives Canada". The head of the new institution, Ian Wilson, the former National Archivist, is now the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada" and it is the "Library and Archives of Canada Act". Cheers, Rob Fisher -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Booth [mailto:gbooth@magma.ca] Sent: July 6, 2004 4:34 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act" at the end of the first question. The passage would read: ". . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read ". . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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To all -- Should people write to his or her politicians, the suggested questions may be found on the Scoreboard sites -- use Copy and Paste and include these questions as part of your letter/e-mail - they are listed below. Also, check http://www.collectionscanada.ca Our former National Archives is now Library and Archives Canada. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm ====== Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. ------- *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." ----- These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/04

Hello again, Jeff's authoritative answer makes me doubt my earlier post! But the new legislation created the "Library and Archives of Canada" under the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada". The institution, however, is using a shorter form of the name, dropping "of" to be known as "Library and Archives Canada". Check out their new web site www.collectionscanada.ca. I had understood that Ian Wilson was appointed Librarian and Archivist on 21 June when the Act came into effect, unless Jeff knows something I don't? Cheers, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Paul, Jeff: SEN [mailto:PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA] Sent: July 7, 2004 8:11 AM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Actually Rob is half right. The name of the institution is the "Library and Archives of Canada". But Ian Wilson's title is still National Archivist. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne -----Original Message----- From: Robber [mailto:robber@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:36 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Hello everyone, A quick reminder for the phrasing of these letters that we no longer have a "National Archivist" or a "National Archives Act". As of 21 June 2004, the National Archives and National Library merged to form "Library and Archives Canada". The head of the new institution, Ian Wilson, the former National Archivist, is now the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada" and it is the "Library and Archives of Canada Act". Cheers, Rob Fisher -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Booth [mailto:gbooth@magma.ca] Sent: July 6, 2004 4:34 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act" at the end of the first question. The passage would read: ". . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read ". . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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This message may be forwarded in United States, etc. To all:- Earlier this year, Gordon Watts put together a NEW census petition to be signed and hopefully assist with release of the 1911 census records, scheduled for June 1, 2003. To date, I have received several of the OLD & ANCIENT ones -- which might not be accepted. Go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ These are the ONLY census petitions which might be accepted. Also, DO NOT WRITE on a copy which does not have a place to write your name and where signatures were gathered -- one was received today. When Gordon and I receive the petitions, should a sticky note or a slip of paper not be included, we credit the first name on the petition -- basically for location. The end of this "sermon" -- use every opportunity to gather signatures!! If placing in a library, keep Page 1 at home, place Page 2 wherever you are able -- then attach Page 1 later. Page 2 may be double-sided. Family History Groups and branches of Ontario Genealogical Society are getting many signatures. There are many Non-Resident ones also coming in -- many from interesting places. The assistance of our many friends is deeply appreciated. At present there is NO census bill, but we are getting prepared as we "feel" there will be one in the fall. Also, do not worry if you send the Senate petitions to Gordon, or the House of Commons ones to me -- we like exchanging mail!! A weekend coming up -- more signatures -- teenagers accepted! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm [Find your politicians] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/04

Thank you Rob Fisher and Jeff Paul. I checked Vol. 138, No. 18, Part I of the Canada Gazette < http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/2004/20040501/pdf/g1-13818.pdf > and found the following reference regarding the Library and Archives of Canada Act: "On Thursday, April 22, 2004, Her Excellency the Governor General signified assent in Her Majesty’s name to an Act to establish the Library and Archives of Canada, to amend the Copyright Act and to amend certain Acts in Consequence (Bill C-8, Chapter 11, 2004)" Therefore, my reference to paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act should now be paragraph 13 (1) of the Library and Archives of Canada Act < http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/N-2.5/84018.html >. It reads as follows "The transfer to the care and control of the Librarian and Archivist of government or ministerial records that he or she considers to have historical or archival value shall be effected in accordance with any agreements for the transfer of records that may be made between the Librarian and Archivist and the government institution or person responsible for the records. "Archivist" means the National Archivist of Canada appointed under subsection 3(2) [of the Act.] Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Paul, Jeff: SEN [mailto:PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA] Sent: July 7, 2004 9:11 AM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Actually Rob is half right. The name of the institution is the "Library and Archives of Canada". But Ian Wilson's title is still National Archivist. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne -----Original Message----- From: Robber [mailto:robber@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:36 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Hello everyone, A quick reminder for the phrasing of these letters that we no longer have a "National Archivist" or a "National Archives Act". As of 21 June 2004, the National Archives and National Library merged to form "Library and Archives Canada". The head of the new institution, Ian Wilson, the former National Archivist, is now the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada" and it is the "Library and Archives of Canada Act". Cheers, Rob Fisher -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Booth [mailto:gbooth@magma.ca] Sent: July 6, 2004 4:34 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act" at the end of the first question. The passage would read: ". . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read ". . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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