To all:- If recipients have mail lists -- the following may be forwarded Yesterday's mail brought three interesting envelopes, all containing signatures on petitions -- the mail system must be great -- one envelope was not sealed! BONNIE in Berrier Springs, MI sent three signatures THERESE from Frisco, Texas sent three signatures and yes, Therese -- three signatures do help! Therese is one of our newest committee members. Arnold from Restoule, ON forwarded 32 signatures for the Senate -- collected at North Bay, ON. I am requesting ALL Canada Census Committee Members make at least ONE effort, regardless of where you live, to obtain signatures on the following:- CANADA -- House of Commons and Senate [both may be signed] OTHER COUNTRIES -- Non Resident Download from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm/ or http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index-f.htm There will be a new petition in the fall -- all will be notified and the signatures on petitions, no matter how few, will provide backing for the desire of release of post-1901 census records, the 1911 is the present one for which we are seeking release. Parliament will start October 4 -- I would enjoy receiving petitions from ALL committee members before that date. Should one might be collecting signatures on both House of Commons and Senate, you may mail to either Gordon Watts or to myself -- our addresses are at above URL and we exchange petitions -- I keep the Senate and Non-Resident. Subscribers to the CCC mail list are invited to smother Gordon and myself with signatures on petitions -- we are doing our share -- but need help! Everyone has a library, many have LSD centres, genealogical societies, historical societies, some have TEENAGERS who might need a Social Science project in school -- the information may be copied if credit is given. [My grandson is collecting signatures at McMaster University]. Hoping to hear from all!!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

To all:- Possibly all know about the Health Meeting -- but please note the OPEN LINE for telephone calls. We have a right to "have our say" -- in addition to what our premiers are doing on our behalf. Muriel M> Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: <todayoncpac@cpac.ca> To: <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:38 AM Subject: CPAC Highlights - September 14 TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14 CPAC brings you complete LIVE coverage starting at 8am ET / 5am PT of the First Ministers' meeting on health care. Also, have your say by calling 1-877-296-2722 as Peter Van Dusen and Pierre Donais open the phone lines before, during and after the proceedings. Rebroadcast at 8pm ET / 5pm PT Don't forget to visit CPAC's website for LIVE coverage of the Sponsorship Inquiry beginning at 9:30am ET / 6:30am PT. Please note that regularly scheduled programming may be preempted due to live CPAC programming. Visit www.cpac.ca for detailed listings and rebroadcast dates and times.

To Jack Layton - MP Hello Jack:- Congratulations on being elected in June, 2004 -- I feel you will serve your constituents to the best of your ability. I have heard from you before, using the NDP address, and you stated all NDP Members of Parliament are 100% in favour of census release. However, I live in Brampton-West -- many Members of Parliament feel he or she do not have to reply to a letter from other than one in the personal constituency. The Canada Census Committee has a different view -- we feel that, when you are voting, you cast a vote on behalf of all Canadians. Since March 1999, the Canada Census Committee has been actively campaigning for release of Post-1901 Census Records -- the 1906 one was released, but the present one are the 1911 census records. These are being withheld by the Chief Statistician who refuses to release them into the care of the National Archivist. There is a great deal of information at the following site, including your scoreboard: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm Another site is http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm Please read all the information and let us know how you will vote when a census release bill is presented in the House of Commons. Signatures are presently being gathered on petitions in anticipation of the coming bill. Your scoreboard site is at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score4.htm#ON Personally, I feel the GOLD symbol meaning YES would be more appropriate for YOU. Your constituents may also collect signatures should you request same -- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ Looking forward to your reply Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8

To Albina Guarniere - MP, Mississauga-Cooksville Congratulations on being elected to the riding of Mississauga-Cooksville in June, 2004 -- I feel you will serve your constituents to the best of your ability. In addition, we hope you are able to fulfill the vast amount of duties as head of Veteran's Affairs and I am certain the veterans who reside at Sunnybrook Veteran's Wings, as does my husband, would welcome you at any time. I personally so not mean for November 11 -- but just a casual visit to say "Hello" to many who have no relatives. However, I live in Brampton-West -- many Members of Parliament feel he or she do not have to reply to a letter from other than one in the personal constituency. The Canada Census Committee has a different view -- we feel that, when you are voting, you cast a vote on behalf of all Canadians. Since March 1999, the Canada Census Committee has been actively campaigning for release of Post-1901 Census Records -- the 1906 one was released, but the present one are the 1911 census records. These are being withheld by the Chief Statistician who refuses to release them into the care of the National Archivist. There is a great deal of information at the following site, including your scoreboard: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm Another site is http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm Please read all the information and let us know how you will vote when a census release bill is presented in the House of Commons. Signatures are presently being gathered on petitions in anticipation of the coming bill. Your scoreboard site is at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score4.htm#ON Personally, I feel the GOLD symbol meaning YES would be more appropriate for a resident of Peel County. Your constituents may also collect signatures should you request same -- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ Looking forward to your reply Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8

To Ms. Liza Frulla - MP:- First of all, I am not one of your constituents, but am a co-chair of the Canada Census Committee. We feel, regardless of your personal riding, that you should answer to all Canadians. Checking your personal scoreboard postings, I notice the last time you answered anyone was in 2002 - to Gilbert Provost, a member of the Canada Census Committee. As Federal Heritage Minister, your "job description" concerns many avenues -- old buildings, records, relationships and more. Parliamentary sessions will soon be starting and it would be nice to have your personal thoughts about any bill that may be introduced in the House of Commons for release of the 1911 census -- now overdue, according to the 92-year release date, by one year -- should have been June 1, 2003. A great deal of information for you to peruse is at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm All listings are in both languages. Petitions are being signed and will be ready for any bill presentation. Sincerely hope you will PERSONALLY change the GREEN to GOLD! On another topic -- today's Toronto Sun has an article that you, as Federal Heritage Minister, are watching Don Cherry for his often undesired remarks. [My husband turns off the sound when he is speaking] Very possibly you, as Federal Heritage Minister, should look within the House of Commons elected membership -- one Member of Parliament should also be under your scrutiny. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON

Greetings All. Being as I have requested CCC listers to post their own letters to MPs and Senators (and their responses) to the list, it is only fair that I do likewise. I copy here FYI a letter that I sent to all 308 MPs. Most MPs in Quebec and New Brunswick received French language translations of it as well. To date I have received only one response to my letter -- from MP Paul Steckle who reaffirmed his conditional support for access to Historic Census records. While Mr. Steckle is prepared to "vote in favour of measures designed to provide access to historic Census records", he is "not prepared to state that he will support all future, and as yet unseen, Bills or Motions regarding the release of historic Census documentation". In seeking the support of our parliamentary representatives we do not expect, nor would we ask them to support "all future, and as yet unseen, Bills or Motions, regarding the release of historic Census documentation". Indeed, if any such future Bills or Motions contained conditions and restrictions similar to those contained in the now defunct Bill S-13, we would hope that our representatives would vote AGAINST them. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f =========================== 29 August 2004 Member of Parliament House of Commons Parliament Buildings Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 Dear Congratulations on your recent election as a Member of Parliament. To have the trust and respect of those who voted for you is a great honour. Members who have been re-elected will be aware of an issue affecting a great many Canadians that seek their personal ancestry through research of Historic Census records. Newly elected Members may not yet be aware of this issue. It has been estimated that in excess of 7.5 million Canadians have an interest in genealogy and family history. These individuals seek to regain the same public access, with no added conditions or restrictions, to 92-year-old records of Census after 1906 that is currently available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. Access to Census records after 1906 is prevented at this time because of the (believed illegal) policy of a federal civil servant - Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi - Chief Statistician of Canada. The Library and Archives of Canada Act (and it's predecessor) has designated to the Librarian and Archivist the authority to determine what records of government are of archival or historical value and that shall be deposited in the National Library and Archives. Librarian and Archivist Ian E. Wilson determined that schedules of Census have archival and historical value. He declared them to be a National Treasure. He requested the Chief Statistician to return care and control of the records in question to his authority. Dr. Fellegi denied that request. The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations, make specific provision for personal information collected through Census or Survey to be made available to any person or body for purposes of research, 92 years following collection. The legislation assumes these records to be under the care and control of the National Archivist. By refusing to return care and control of the records in question to the Librarian and Archivist for subsequent public access the Chief Statistician has acted in deliberate contravention of the Library and Archives of Canada Act, the Access to Information Act, and the Privacy Act. He has usurped the authority of the Librarian and Archivist to determine what governmental records are of archival or historical value and that shall be deposited in the Library and Archives of Canada. In dictating policy instead of following policy determined through legislation passed by Parliament he has usurped the authority of that body. Do you believe that any Federal bureaucrat, regardless of how highly placed or regarded, is above the Laws of Canada? Do you believe that a civil servant has the power to dictate policy that contravenes legislation passed by the Parliament of Canada? The Access to Information and Privacy Acts are complementary Acts born of the same Bill debated and passed by Parliament. Do you believe the parliamentarians who passed this legislation would knowingly include clauses in one Act, the effect of which would be to totally nullify clauses in the other? If your answer to any of these questions is 'NO' we ask that you support our efforts to regain the same public access - with no added restrictions or conditions - to Historic Census records after 1906 that is currently available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We seek nothing new. We seek only that which current legislation states we are entitled to - access that we have had in the past but is currently (believed illegally) withheld from us by the Chief Statistician of Canada. We ask that you call upon the Government of Canada to immediately direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to obey the Laws of Canada. We ask that he be directed to return care and control of schedules of Historic Census to the Librarian and Archivist of Canada for subsequent public access in accordance with the Access to Information and Privacy Acts. We ask further that you ensure continued public access to Historic Census records by seeking a government Bill that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause, similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In reading my letter you may not feel any obligation to respond to someone living outside your electoral riding. The votes you cast in Parliament, however, affect all people living in Canada and in that respect your constituency is all of Canada. Considering this, even though I do not reside in your riding I would greatly appreciate your personal response to my letter. Your response, stating your support (or otherwise) of the access we seek, will be posted to your Correspondence Log on the Post 1901 Census Project website. It will be available for viewing by your constituents on the MPs Scoreboard at www.globalgenealogy.com/Census Thank you for taking the time to read my letter, and for your consideration of this very important issue. Respectfully Gordon A. Watts Co-chair, Canada Census Committee gordon_watts@telus.net Tel. 604-942-6889 Fax. 604-942-6843

This is an exceptional letter - it reminds the reader of the 'key' reason' we search - to put a "face on the past". I think this is the kind of argument that will carry weight with elected officials. Thanks to Gail Gordon for sharing. Betty Maurice, Kelowna

Greetings All. I copy here FYI an excellent letter sent to Prime Minister Paul Martin from a supporter from New York. All subscribers to the CCC list should feel free to post their own letters to the list -- also any responses that you have received for letters you have written to the MPs and Senators. Happy Hunting Gordon ============================= September 4, 2004 Right Hon. Paul Martin Office of the Prime Minister 80 Wellington Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A0A2 CANADA Dear Sir: From my home in NY, I have been watching with great interest the campaign to preserve and liberate the Canadian census records on schedule. Until getting involved in genealogical research, I had no understanding of the complexity of the relationship between Canada and the USA, or the degree to which we are literally one family (albeit a somewhat dysfunctional one.) One of the things my cousin and I learned from census records on both sides of the border is that her Canadian mother was descended from New Englanders who fought on the American side in the Revolutionary War and only moved north of the St. Lawrence about 1800, while our fathers' very American family from Brooklyn, NY, was descended from a British soldier who settled in Nova Scotia at the close of the Revolution and a whole bunch of Loyalists from New Brunswick, and only moved south to Brooklyn about 1860. At each stage in our search, census records were critical in confirming we had indeed found our family at their new home, rather than some other family with the same last name, so I can appreciate the importance of the census records to historians and other researchers. I read that you, yourself, have an interest in family history, and recently participated in ceremonies honoring contributions made by your family to the community where they lived for several generations, so I am sure you also appreciate the need to preserve access to this uniquely important source of information for future generations of Canadians wanting to better understand the people and culture of their great nation. However, I believe the most important argument in favor of guaranteeing continued public access to the whole of the personally identifiable information in the census is that it is the only way to insure the people recorded there will not be lost to history as individual people with individual stories to tell. The census records are a form of personal immortality. Destroying or permanently sealing them in the name of protecting the privacy of the individuals to whom they relate can only "protect" these individuals by robbing them of their human face and consigning them to the oblivion of impersonal statistics forever. Individual census records should be preserved and made available in detail to all who value the people they record enough to want to learn about them, not just because this will benefit researchers, but also because in the process of research, the people themselves will be brought back to life as fully as possible. In their own lifetime, they may have been too busy earning a living to spend time writing down their stories for posterity, or they may have felt they were not important enough for anyone other than their immediate family to ever want to remember (how many veterans of World War II fall into that category!) But these ordinary average people going about their daily lives are the ones who made both our countries what they are today, and each of them is entitled to be fully recognized for the individual role he or she played in our collective story. It is understandable that the Chief Statistician would feel statistical compilations to be a satisfactory record of an individual's place in history, but the groundswell of opposition to his actions shows that the rest of us believe more is required. We understand on a deeper level it is the little details about individual people that best enable the true heart and soul of a nation to live on from one generation to the next. Please do everything in your power to insure these details remain accessible to this generation and those that follow us. In particular, please direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to transfer the 1906 and subsequent census records to the National Library and Archives of Canada on the same schedule and terms of availability to the public as previously applied to earlier census records. Thank you. Yours truly, Gail R. Gordon

To all:- A 9/11 memorial service will be held at Gage Park in Brampton on Sunday with the City of Brampton, Brampton Multifaith Council and Le College du Savoit have teamed to organize the event. The 30-minute memorial service will start at 2 p.m. There were 26 Canadians who lost their lives on that day. A small stone is placed in Gage Park in their memory. I also have a tribute on my homepage http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ Click on TRIBUTES A special "thank you" to my brother who served during those horrific days. Muriel

To all:- Someone asked me how to read census records -- so hope I do not bore any reader with my family records. Gordon was my father -- just a way I have of keeping records. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia =============== 1891 Census, Summerville Centre, Queens Co., Nova Scotia Name Sex Age Origin Nat. Rel. Occ. Farquhar, Wm. H. M 38 H Scotch N.S. C./E. Farmer/fisherman " Ida A.C. F 25 W English " Bapt. " Mabel S. F 4 D Scotch " C/E " Wm. R. M 2 S " " " " Gordon F. M 2/12 S " " " " Alice M. F 34 Sis " " " " Susan M. F 23 Sis " " " " Isabella F 66 Wid " " Meth - William H. Farquhar was HEAD of the household - Alice and Susan were sisters - Isabella was his widowed mother One child not listed - CECIL b. 3 Nov 1896; d. 27 Jul 1897 -------------- Same family -- 1901 Census:- Farquhar Wm. H. 7Nov1853 M Scotch N.S. C/E farmer/fisherman (Ford) Ida A. 2May1866 F English " " " Mabel S. 22Oct1887 F Scotch " " " Wm. R. 21Feb1889 M " " " " Gordon 13Jul1891 M " " " " Roland F. 1Jun1901 M " " " " Alice 27Nov1857 F " " " (McIntosh) Isabella 6 Apr1825 F " " " NOTE; Roland died 7Oct 1905; Alice d. 13Apr1909 (Multiple Sclerosis) --------------- Projected 1911 Census - same family:- Farquhar, Wm. H. 7Nov1853 H Scotch N.S. C/E farmer/fisherman (Ford) Ida A. 2May1866 F English " " Teacher " Mabel S. 22Oct1887 F Scotch " " Seamstress " Wm. R. 21Feb1889 M " " " Lumberman " Gordon 13July1891 M " " " Lumberman (McIntosh) Isabella 6Apr1925 Wid. " " Meth Note: Isabella died 18 Oct 1912 [It will be interesting to see if the 1911 census -- when released -- give the same above facts as known and researched.]

Greetings All. I copy below FYI a message received this morning from the office of MP Paul Steckle and my reply to his assistant. This is the first response that I have received from my letter sent last month by Canada Post to all 308 MPs. Mr. Steckle supports our goal, at least in principle, and will retain his Gold Tick on the MP Scoreboard. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon A. Watts To: Steckle, Paul - Assistant 1 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Your Correspondence RE: ''Historic Census Records'' Good Morning Greg. Thank you for your prompt response to my letter of 29 August 2004. In seeking support of our parliamentary representatives we do not expect, nor would we ask them to support 'all future, and as yet unseen, Bills or Motions regarding the release of historic Census documentation'. Indeed, if any such future Bills or Motions contained conditions and restrictions similar to those contained in the now defunct Bill S-13, we would hope that our representatives would vote AGAINST them. Government Bill S-13 was less concerned with providing the access we seek to see returned than it was in placing conditions and restrictions on that access, and in extending by twenty years (to 112 years) the period before 'unrestricted' access would be available. By far the worst provision of Bill S-13 was the so-called 'informed consent' clause that would forever destroy the 'completeness' of future Censuses thus diminishing their value for genealogical and historical research. In responding to our questions of support for the access we seek some MPs and Senators refer to the need to achieve a balance between individual privacy and the need to provide information to legitimate researchers. We believe that 'balance' has already been achieved and has been legislatively prescribed through clauses in the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations. Those clauses make specific provision for access of 'personal information' collected through Census or Survey, to any person or body for purposes of research, 92 years after collection. The 'balance' provided therein is that in return for providing information to Census that information will remain confidential for a period of 92 years. We find it difficult to believe that legislators who debated and passed the Bill that gave birth to the Access to Information and Privacy Acts would include specific provision for access to 92-year-old Census records if they felt those provisions could be circumvented simply by a government bureaucrat refusing to return control of the records in question to the National Archivist. The intent of those legislators is clear -- they intended public access to 92-year-old Census records to be permitted. Why else would they have included the clauses referred to? As indicated in my letter we seek nothing new. We seek nothing other than that which existing legislation states we are entitled to. When 240 years of Census records are currently accessible after 92 years without restriction we see no reason why subsequent records should not be accessible in the same manner. We do not believe legislative change should be necessary to achieve this, however should Parliament believe otherwise we have suggested a single clause to be added to the Statistics Act that would accomplish what we seek without adding any unnecessary and unwanted conditions or restrictions. Please thank Mr. Steckle for his support (at least in principle) for the access we seek to Historic Census records. He will retain his Gold Tick on the MPs Scoreboard of the Post 1901 Census Project website. Have a great day! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f ----- Original Message ----- From: Steckle, Paul - Assistant 1 To: gordon_watts@telus.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: Your Correspondence RE: ''Historic Census Records'' Mr. Watts: I am writing in response to your letter, received by this office on September 8th, 2004, in which you ask for Mr. Steckle's views regarding the release of historic Census records. I thank you for your continuing interest on this issue. As you will recall, on June 13th, 2000, we spoke at length on the telephone concerning this matter. Consistent with the information that I relayed to you during that conversation, please note that Mr. Steckle remains steadfast with respect to the said release. In plain terms, he is prepared to vote in favour of measures designed to provide access to historic Census records however, he is not prepared to state that he will support all future, and as yet unseen, Bills or Motions regarding the release of historic Census documentation. That determination will be made on a case by case basis and will be cognisant of legal factors such as individual privacy. Mr. Steckle acknowledges the potential research value of materials contained within historical Census records and supports the release of said information so long as it does not compromise an individuals right to privacy and does not set certain legal precedents. I would invite you to maintain contact with this office in the future so that proper evaluation of related legislative measures can be conducted. Your input will be valuable if and when the House of Commons, and Mr. Steckle, are considering legislative measures pertaining to the release of historic Census records. Greg McClinchey Executive Assistant to / adjoint exécutif Paul Steckle, M.P. / député Huron-Bruce (Ontario) 484 Confederation / Confédération House of Commons / Chambre des communes Ottawa (Ontario) K1A 0A6 (613) 995-9848 phone (613) 995-6350 fax www.psteckle.com

RE Postings in French Language:- There are many lists to which I post where some peopleprefer only French language -- it is their "mother" language. Several of our committee members feel more comfortable reading French than English -- I read both. New Brunswick is the ONLY province which is legally bilingual. We find at least seven French-only communities in Nova Scotia (I have been prevented from posting to one), and we find French communities in northern Ontario and Manitoba. Suggestion: -- Gilbert Provost does correct translation, Should you wish to "brush up" on your French verbs, etc. print a two-language memo and study the translation. Has one ever noted the highway signs in Nova Scotia? English, French, Gaelic, Mi'kMaq and often Chinese!!!! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: Posts in French language Greetings All. Subscribers to the CCC list will have noted that recently there have been a couple of messages posted in French. These messages have been translations of posts that I have made to the CCC list and some other lists to which I send what I consider to be the more important of what I post regarding the Post 1901 Census campaign. The translations have been done by Gilbert Provost - one of our Committee members - and in addition to the CCC list they are being sent to some mail lists in Quebec and New Brunswick where a great many people who speak only French might be advised of the Census issue and their assistance sought to see it rectified. Not speaking or reading French myself, I appreciate the effort Gilbert is making to translate my posts and forward them to lists that might not otherwise receive the information. Unfortunately, Gilbert has received some less than complimentary messages suggesting that English is the 'preferred' language in Canada. Fortunately, the message Gilbert copied to me did not come from anyone currently subscribed to the CCC list. With respect, I will remind listers that in Canada there are two Official languages - French and English. In our goal of regaining public access to Historic Census records we seek the support of all Canadians - regardless of what language they speak. A little tolerance (perhaps not the best term) when receiving these posts is the 'order of the day'. To avoid any misunderstanding in the future Gilbert has indicated that when posting a French language translation he will include the original English message along with it. Thank you all for your continued support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f

Good morning; I have been preoccupied lately but I am collecting signatures on the new petition forms and writing letters. I have not yet received an acknowledgement either to my e-mail or my letter to the new Minister of Industry. I plan to write the new Minister of Canadian Heritage responsible for the National Archives, Liza Frulla, today. With respect to Senator Lowell "to hell with these historians" Murray; while he nominally represents Ontario, I regret to remind list members that he is Nova Scotia born and bred and while our elected Bluenose Members of Parliament may all have gold ticks, Mr. Murray represents a formidable and efficacious opponent of public census release. From his public biography available on-line at http://www.parl.gc.ca/english/senate/bio-e/murr-e.htm Hon. Senator Murray was born in New Waterford, Nova Scotia on 26 Sept 1936. He maintains a summer residence in Cape Breton and I vaguely recall an editorial he wrote that was published in the provincial daily during the federal election last June basically condemning the newly minted Conservative Party. My point, as I am beginning to wander here, is that as a former Progressive Conservative and apparently not comfortable with the Reform/Alliance merger, he is at least consistent in that the Canadian Alliance Party supported public census release. Letters alone I am afraid will not change this leopard's spots, one can only look forward to his retirement from the Senate at age 75, which will be in 2011 if his published date of birth is accurate. Regards, Leland Harvie Halifax, Nova Scotia Bonjour: J'ai été préoccupé mais je rassemble des signatures sur les nouvelles formes de pétition et écris des lettres. Je n'ai pas encore reçu une reconnaissance à mon courriel ou à ma lettre au ministre de l'industrie. J'écrira le nouveau ministre de l'héritage canadien responsable des archives nationales, Liza Frulla, aujourd'hui. Au sujet du sénateur Lowell "à l'enfer avec ces historians" Murray; tandis qu'il représente nominalement Ontario, je regrette de rappeler des membres de liste qu'il est nè en Nouvelle-Écosse. Tous nos parlementaires 'Bluenose' élue peuvent avoir des médaille d'or, mais M. Murray représente un adversaire formidable et efficace de dégagement public de recensement. De sa biographie publique disponible en ligne à http://www.parl.gc.ca/english/senate/bio-f/murr-f.htm Hon. le sénateur Murray est né à New Waterford, Nouvelle-Écosse le 26 Septembre 1936. Il maintient une maison d'été en Cape Breton et je rappelle un éditorial qu'il a écrit dans le journal provincial pendant l'élection fédérale contre la Parti conservateur du Canada result de la fusion de Reform/Alliance. La parti alliance a soutenu le dégagement public de recensement. J'ai peur qu'il faut attendre sa retraite du sénat qui sera en 2011 si son date de naissance est précise. Salut... Leland Harvie Halifax, Nova Scotia > To the following:- > > Senator Douglas Roche -- Alberta > Senator Lowell Murray -- Ontario > Senator Yves Morin - Quebec > Senator Noel A. Kinsella - New Brunswick > Senator Gerald Comeau -- Nova Scotia > > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm > > Check the above URL, click on your various provinces and > you will find the glaring RED X for all to see -- your personal > message boards do not state very much. >

Hi Gordon. Strange that Eudora adds those tags. I will make sure they are not added. As for Wendy's e-mail, I only sent the translations to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Thanks. Gilbert

Greetings All. Subscribers to the CCC list will have noted that recently there have been a couple of messages posted in French. These messages have been translations of posts that I have made to the CCC list and some other lists to which I send what I consider to be the more important of what I post regarding the Post 1901 Census campaign. The translations have been done by Gilbert Provost - one of our Committee members - and in addition to the CCC list they are being sent to some mail lists in Quebec and New Brunswick where a great many people who speak only French might be advised of the Census issue and their assistance sought to see it rectified. Not speaking or reading French myself, I appreciate the effort Gilbert is making to translate my posts and forward them to lists that might not otherwise receive the information. Unfortunately, Gilbert has received some less than complimentary messages suggesting that English is the 'preferred' language in Canada. Fortunately, the message Gilbert copied to me did not come from anyone currently subscribed to the CCC list. With respect, I will remind listers that in Canada there are two Official languages - French and English. In our goal of regaining public access to Historic Census records we seek the support of all Canadians - regardless of what language they speak. A little tolerance (perhaps not the best term) when receiving these posts is the 'order of the day'. To avoid any misunderstanding in the future Gilbert has indicated that when posting a French language translation he will include the original English message along with it. Thank you all for your continued support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f

To the following:- Senator Douglas Roche -- Alberta Senator Lowell Murray -- Ontario Senator Yves Morin - Quebec Senator Noel A. Kinsella - New Brunswick Senator Gerald Comeau -- Nova Scotia http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm Check the above URL, click on your various provinces and you will find the glaring RED X for all to see -- your personal message boards do not state very much. Personally, knowing there might be problems after the 1901 census, I have been working for release of the 1911 and later census records since late 1980s. Very possibly many are familiar with the Canada Census Committee a group of Canadians and also Americans working for release of the records. The reasons vary -- lost family members, genetically inherited diseases, Home Children -- I could give you several more. None of the more than 7.5 million researchers in Canada are doing this for public and profitable gain. Families have separated over the years, addresses become lost -- plus we have marriages and deaths. The Canada Census Committee members will be very happy to leave your personal glaring RED X for all to note -- IF logical reasons WHY you feel the census should not be released. During this past summer, members of the Acadian communities in Nova Scotia celebrated -- my home community was founded in 1603 before Port Royal so I am justly proud. The CBC will air a two-hour show tomorrow evening at 7 PM EST -- should you watch this show, you might understand why heritage is valuable. I will be looking forward to YOUR personal answers -- when these are received, Gordon Watts will post them on your message board. Sincerely, Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

Hello Shirley:- Ontario has one RED X -- a Member of Parliament but I really dislike the RED X on the Senate scoreboard of my native province. I have not checked the other provinces -- but hope he is the only Senator. If totally against census release, I feel there should be a reason -- Senator Lorna Milne has worked so hard to assist all of us in our family research. Possibly the ones with RED X's do not realize that Genetically Inherited Diseases can be traced via census and other documents. My brother had MS for 44 years, died March 16, 2004, but I learned about it due to Letters of Administration when an estate had to be settled, due to death of my gr.gr.gr.grandfatherm in 1783. His wife died in 1829. A gr.aunt died in 1909 after 30 years of MS. Sincerely hope the ones who are appointed or elected will provide suitable excuses or very good reasons -- unless the secretary answers all the mail. Be sure to watch the Acadian Festival show on CBC Thursday at 7 PM -- it might give some extra pride in heritage! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley" <salane@eastlink.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - NS is SOLID GOLD again! > I find it interesting that among the Nova Scotia Senators Gerald J Comeau, > conservative is against our petition especially in light of the massive > Acadien festivals that were held throughout the province this past month > where it was obvious that the majority of people ,and there were thousands , > who came from outside the province were here to trace their roots . > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:38 PM > Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - NS is SOLID GOLD again! > > > > Greetings All. > > > > With a positive response from newly elected MP Michael Savage Nova Scotia > is once again the only Province that is Solid Gold -- meaning that all 11 > MPs for that Province that have indicated their support for public access to > Historic Census records. > > > > If you receive a response from any MP or Senator regarding their position > on the Census access issue please forward it so that it can be added to > their correspondence log on the Scoreboards of the Post 1901 Census Project > website. The only way we can update the Scoreboards is if we hear from you. > Your letters to MPs or Senators may be added to their correspondence logs as > well. > > > > We are approaching the time when we want to send some of our accumulated > Petitions to the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada. We need your > signatures to show that we still seek the same access, with no added > conditions or restrictions, to Historic Census records after 1906 that we > currently have for records up to that time. > > > > Happy Hunting. > > > > Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net > > Co-chair Canada Census Committee > > Port Coquitlam, BC > > > > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census > > en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f > > > > Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley" <salane@eastlink.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - NS is SOLID GOLD again! > I find it interesting that among the Nova Scotia Senators Gerald J Comeau, > conservative is against our petition especially in light of the massive > Acadien festivals that were held throughout the province this past month > where it was obvious that the majority of people ,and there were thousands , > who came from outside the province were here to trace their roots . > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:38 PM > Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - NS is SOLID GOLD again! > > > > Greetings All. > > > > With a positive response from newly elected MP Michael Savage Nova Scotia > is once again the only Province that is Solid Gold -- meaning that all 11 > MPs for that Province that have indicated their support for public access to > Historic Census records. > > > > If you receive a response from any MP or Senator regarding their position > on the Census access issue please forward it so that it can be added to > their correspondence log on the Scoreboards of the Post 1901 Census Project > website. The only way we can update the Scoreboards is if we hear from you. > Your letters to MPs or Senators may be added to their correspondence logs as > well. > > > > We are approaching the time when we want to send some of our accumulated > Petitions to the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada. We need your > signatures to show that we still seek the same access, with no added > conditions or restrictions, to Historic Census records after 1906 that we > currently have for records up to that time. > > > > Happy Hunting. > > > > Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net > > Co-chair Canada Census Committee > > Port Coquitlam, BC > > > > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census > > en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f > > > > Permission to forward without notice is granted > > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at > > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ > > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > >

Confirmation of receipt from my MP. Gordon - note the correct e-mail address. The e-mail was sent Auggust 11, reply dated Sept 8th! Patty ************* I acknowledge receipt of your message addressed to Mr. Marc Godbout, M.P. for Ottawa-Orléans. Please note it has been forwarded to the constituency office for action. You can reach the constituency office at: (613) 590-0999 Their e-mail address is: Godbom1@parl.gc.ca Thank you !

I find it interesting that among the Nova Scotia Senators Gerald J Comeau, conservative is against our petition especially in light of the massive Acadien festivals that were held throughout the province this past month where it was obvious that the majority of people ,and there were thousands , who came from outside the province were here to trace their roots . Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - NS is SOLID GOLD again! > Greetings All. > > With a positive response from newly elected MP Michael Savage Nova Scotia is once again the only Province that is Solid Gold -- meaning that all 11 MPs for that Province that have indicated their support for public access to Historic Census records. > > If you receive a response from any MP or Senator regarding their position on the Census access issue please forward it so that it can be added to their correspondence log on the Scoreboards of the Post 1901 Census Project website. The only way we can update the Scoreboards is if we hear from you. Your letters to MPs or Senators may be added to their correspondence logs as well. > > We are approaching the time when we want to send some of our accumulated Petitions to the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada. We need your signatures to show that we still seek the same access, with no added conditions or restrictions, to Historic Census records after 1906 that we currently have for records up to that time. > > Happy Hunting. > > Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net > Co-chair Canada Census Committee > Port Coquitlam, BC > > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census > en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f > > Permission to forward without notice is granted > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm >