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My petition signatures are in the mail to Gordon and Muriel and I will take some fresh ones along on my vacation. On another note, I arrived home from work today to find my reply from the Information Commissioner. I can't remember Gordon what your advice was regarding this. Am I to sign it as requested and return to Mr. Reid? Patty

Hi Patty. You mean you haven't signed the consent form yet? <]:-) By all means sign it and get it in the mail. Make a copy of it for yourself and hang on to it for possible future use. I am not looking for copies to be sent to me this time but am asking everyone to hang on to copies in case they might prove useful down the road. A number of our people in Ottawa have expressed an interest in the response of the Information Commissioner. I received a call this afternoon asking if I would give permission for copies of the Report sent to me to be given to interested parties. I gave my permission for it to be given to a number of specific individuals and to anyone else who may be interested. What are you waiting for Patty? Stop reading this and sign the consent form. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmcgr" <pmcgr@allstream.net> To: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>; <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Re: Post-1901 Census -- Another BLUE Symbol in the Garbage My petition signatures are in the mail to Gordon and Muriel and I will take some fresh ones along on my vacation. On another note, I arrived home from work today to find my reply from the Information Commissioner. I can't remember Gordon what your advice was regarding this. Am I to sign it as requested and return to Mr. Reid? Patty

Hi Patty -- Everyone takes vacations, so why not take a census petition on a vacation!!! There would be no problem as long as each one is kept separate -- if in United States or some exotic place, the Non-Resident must be used. I am copying this to all committee members so they remember to pack the suitable petitions for where he or she may be going. Remember -- the same person may sign both Senate and House of Commons -- also, when mailing, send to either Gordon or myself -- we exchange mail periodically. Muriel [P.S. -- Even Senator Lorna Milne takes vacations -- so we will be able to surprise her with travelling petitions!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmcgr" <pmcgr@allstream.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Post-1901 Census -- Another BLUE Symbol in the Garbage > Hi Gordon and Muriel > > My petitions will go in the mail to you tomorrow. Sorry it's not many but I > have managed to get about a dozen signatures on each (Senate and House). > > Now I have another question or two for you: In a couple of weeks I will be > heading to Toronto, Regina and Edmonton to visit friends and family. Can I > use one petition for all even though they are in different provinces? I > will be finishing up my holiday with a week long genealogy course in Salt > Lake City. I will take petitions along as well. So long as I keep the > non-residents' signatures on the proper form, can I collect Canadian citizen > signatures while in the USA (note the form asks where the signatures were > collected). I just want to make sure I don't get a whole bunch of > signatures that some bureaucrat will decide to void because they are > collected out of country. > > Patty in Ottawa > http://pasttimes.topcities.com/ > > ______________________________

Hi Gordon and Muriel My petitions will go in the mail to you tomorrow. Sorry it's not many but I have managed to get about a dozen signatures on each (Senate and House). Now I have another question or two for you: In a couple of weeks I will be heading to Toronto, Regina and Edmonton to visit friends and family. Can I use one petition for all even though they are in different provinces? I will be finishing up my holiday with a week long genealogy course in Salt Lake City. I will take petitions along as well. So long as I keep the non-residents' signatures on the proper form, can I collect Canadian citizen signatures while in the USA (note the form asks where the signatures were collected). I just want to make sure I don't get a whole bunch of signatures that some bureaucrat will decide to void because they are collected out of country. Patty in Ottawa http://pasttimes.topcities.com/

Hi Patty. In words of one syllable -- GO FOR IT!! It matters not where the signatures are collected so long as Canadians (or residents) with Canadian addresses sign the Canadian petitions and others sign the Non-Resident petitions. So long as you are careful to ensure the right people sign the right petitions it does not matter one bit where you are when they are signed. The line indicating where the signatures are collected is for the information of myself and Muriel only. It is how we know where to credit the signatures when totalling how many have come from each province etc. I have just had 159 signatures come from someone living in Montreal. He had collected signatures in four different provinces and so I credited each province with the signatures collected in each. I spent a week in the Salt Lake City library in 1997. One of these days I hope that I can finish going through the information I collected at that time. Have a great trip. Thank you for your continued support. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmcgr" <pmcgr@allstream.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: [CCC] Re: Post-1901 Census -- Another BLUE Symbol in the Garbage Hi Gordon and Muriel My petitions will go in the mail to you tomorrow. Sorry it's not many but I have managed to get about a dozen signatures on each (Senate and House). Now I have another question or two for you: In a couple of weeks I will be heading to Toronto, Regina and Edmonton to visit friends and family. Can I use one petition for all even though they are in different provinces? I will be finishing up my holiday with a week long genealogy course in Salt Lake City. I will take petitions along as well. So long as I keep the non-residents' signatures on the proper form, can I collect Canadian citizen signatures while in the USA (note the form asks where the signatures were collected). I just want to make sure I don't get a whole bunch of signatures that some bureaucrat will decide to void because they are collected out of country. Patty in Ottawa http://pasttimes.topcities.com/ ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

Salutations à tous. J'écris ces quelques lignes à 6 heures du matin. À 5 heures 30, la sonnerie de mon télécopieur m'a réveillé. Toutefois, je n'étais pas fàché car c'était le Commissaire à l'information qui m'envoyait sa réponse longuement attendue à nos plaintes relatives au refus de Statistiques Canada de transférer le contrôle des données du recensement de 1911. La transmission des 40 pages a duré 30 minutes. Les pages les plus importantes sont les deux pages de la lettre signée par l'Hon. John Reid. Le Commissaire à l'information m'avise qu'il a déterminé que l'accès aux données refusé par Statistiques Canada, est autorisé en vertue du paragraphe 19(2)(c) de la Loi sur l'accès à l'information, par référence à la sous-section 8(3) de Loi sur la Protection des renseignements personnels et la section 6 des réglements afférents. M. Reid indique, aussi, que les 22 juin et 22 juillet 2004, il a recommandé que Statistiques Canada donne accès aux données en question. Toutefois, le 24 août 2004, l'Honorable David Emerson, Ministre de l'industrie, l'informait qu'il n'avait pas l'intention de mettre en oeuvre sa recommandation. M. Reid a cherché à obtenir la permission de demander à la Cour Fédérale de reconsidérer le refus du Ministre de l'industrie de donner accès aux données du recensement de 1911, et ce, en mon nom personnel. Il a souligné les 90 plaintes reçues de 90 individus différents et qu'il avait l'intention d'en utiliser une pour la revue par la Cour Fédéral, afin de soustraire du processus tous les plaignants qui auront fourni leur consentement. Des copies de ces formulaires de consentements dûment signés seront annexées à la demande à Cour. Lorsque vous lirez ces lignes, les réponses du Commissaire à l'information aux 90 plaignants auront déjà été postées. Je ne peux souligner avec d'avantage de force l'importance de signer les formules de consentement et de les retourner au Commissaire à l'information au plus tôt, par le retour du courrier, si possible. Peut être qu'en les lui retournant, vous pourriez m'en faire part. Je suis extrêmement satisfait de la réponse du Commissaire. L'attente en valait la peine. Toutefois, je suis désappointé qu'un des premiers gestes de l'Honorable David Emerson, fraîchement élu au Parlement et récemment nommé Ministre de l'industrie, aura été de refuser la recommandation de M. Reid. Voila un pas de plus vers notre objectif d'accéder au recensement canadien de 1911 et, plus loin, l'accès libre à tous les recensements. Il nous faut, cependant, continuer nos efforts en signant les pétitions et en communiquant avec nos parlementaires pour les informer de nos inquiétudes sur le sujet. Avec votre aide nous atteindrons notre objectif. Bonne chasse. » Gordon A. Watts <mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net>gordon_watts@telus.net Co-président Comité du recensement canadien Port Coquitlam, BC <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census>http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en français <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f>http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f Distribution permise Gilbert Provost Membre pour le Québec Comité du recensement canadien >Greetings All. > >As I start to write this it is 6:00 AM Pacific Time. I was awakened at >5:30 AM to the sound of my fax line ringing. I was not upset, however, >as the incoming fax was the long awaited response from the Information >Commissioner to our complaints regarding the refusal of Statistics >Canada to return control of the 1911 Census records. It took almost 30 >minutes for some 40 pages to be received. > >The most important of the pages received was a two page letter signed by >the Hon. John M. Reid. In that letter the Information Commissioner >advises that he "found access to the withheld records is authorized >pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(c) of the Access to Information Act by >reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and section 6 of the >Privacy Regulations." > >Mr. Reid further stated "On June 22 and July 22, 2004, I recommended >that SC release the requested schedules. However, on August 24, 2004, >The Honourable David Emerson, the Minister of Industry, informed me that >he does not intend to follow my recommendation." > >Mr. Reid sought permission to apply to the Federal Court on my behalf >for a review of the refusal by the Minister of Industry to release the >records is question. He indicated that there were 90 complaints made by >90 individual complainants and that he intends to bring one application >for review before the Federal Court seeking relief for the benefit of >all complainants who have provided their constent. Copies of all signed >consent forms will be filed with the Court as part of this application. > >By the time you read this the Information Commissioner's responses to >all 90 complainants should be in the mail. I cannot stress strongly >enough the importance of signing the consent forms to be received. >Please return them to the Information Commissioner as soon as >possible -- preferably by return mail. Perhaps as you do this you could >drop me a line to advise that you have responded to the Information >Commissioner's request. > >I am extremely pleased by the response received from the Information >Commissioner. It was worth waiting for. On the other hand I am >disappointed that virtually the first act of the Hon. David Emerson, >newly elected Member of Parliament and newly appointed Minister for >Industry, was to refuse to follow the recommendations of Mr. Reid. > >This is one more step closer to realizing our immediate goal of access >to the 1911 National Census of Canada, and eventual release of >subsequent Censuses. We must, however, continue our efforts by signing >petitions and contacting our parliamentary representatives to advise of >our concerns in this matter. > >With your help we will succeed. > >Happy Hunting. > >Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net >Co-chair Canada Census Committee >Port Coquitlam, BC > >http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census >en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f > >Permission to forward without notice is granted

Greetings All. As I start to write this it is 6:00 AM Pacific Time. I was awakened at 5:30 AM to the sound of my fax line ringing. I was not upset, however, as the incoming fax was the long awaited response from the Information Commissioner to our complaints regarding the refusal of Statistics Canada to return control of the 1911 Census records. It took almost 30 minutes for some 40 pages to be received. The most important of the pages received was a two page letter signed by the Hon. John M. Reid. In that letter the Information Commissioner advises that he "found access to the withheld records is authorized pursuant to paragraph 19(2)(c) of the Access to Information Act by reference to subsection 8(3) of the Privacy Act and section 6 of the Privacy Regulations." Mr. Reid further stated "On June 22 and July 22, 2004, I recommended that SC release the requested schedules. However, on August 24, 2004, The Honourable David Emerson, the Minister of Industry, informed me that he does not intend to follow my recommendation." Mr. Reid sought permission to apply to the Federal Court on my behalf for a review of the refusal by the Minister of Industry to release the records is question. He indicated that there were 90 complaints made by 90 individual complainants and that he intends to bring one application for review before the Federal Court seeking relief for the benefit of all complainants who have provided their constent. Copies of all signed consent forms will be filed with the Court as part of this application. By the time you read this the Information Commissioner's responses to all 90 complainants should be in the mail. I cannot stress strongly enough the importance of signing the consent forms to be received. Please return them to the Information Commissioner as soon as possible -- preferably by return mail. Perhaps as you do this you could drop me a line to advise that you have responded to the Information Commissioner's request. I am extremely pleased by the response received from the Information Commissioner. It was worth waiting for. On the other hand I am disappointed that virtually the first act of the Hon. David Emerson, newly elected Member of Parliament and newly appointed Minister for Industry, was to refuse to follow the recommendations of Mr. Reid. This is one more step closer to realizing our immediate goal of access to the 1911 National Census of Canada, and eventual release of subsequent Censuses. We must, however, continue our efforts by signing petitions and contacting our parliamentary representatives to advise of our concerns in this matter. With your help we will succeed. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- My lazy way of sending letters is starting to pay off! I first send an e-mail, then print the e-mail, sign it and with this one, I remember adding my phone number. ============ Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score5.htm#NB CHARLES HUBBARD of Miramichi riding is fully in favour of census release and will also be telling Lorna (Senator Lorna Milne) tomorrow. He also agrees 92 years is long enough and there could definitely be no chance of identity theft after so many years. ============== I enjoyed talking to him -- about his surname, origin of same, [after he found out I was from the East coast], about the place Hubbard's in Nova Scotia -- and much more. Hoping for more phone calls!!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

To all:- These are the results of a number of letters to open:- Senate:- Philip Riley, Courtland, BC ................................30 Owen Sound Family History Centre, ON.............23 Ottawa Branch, Ontario Genealogical Society.....55 Genealogical Association Nova Scotia [GANS] 99 Whitby-Oshawa Branch, OGS & Uxbridge Genealogy Group (Nancy Trimble)...76 TOTAL == 283 House of Commons:- Owen Sound Family History Centre, ON.......23 Keep them coming -- I love opening mail!!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON

To all -- The following note, along with 30 signatures for the Senate of Canada, but Philip will keep on gathering -- more later. My biggest fear for the current legislature is that it will be short-lived and we will have to start all over again.---- Hopefully something will occur before the session ends -- Maybe chief of Stats-Can Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi will retire. The majority of signatures are from friends and acquaintenances of the undersigned -- some were from the local Extended Care Unit in St. Joseph's Hospital. --- As for the signatures being sent in at present, these will be SAFE until presented to back up a census bill. Once the bill is presented and petitions given as backing, we just keep on going -- hopefully Parliament would not have to be prorogued. The Non-Resident signatures can only be used after or following Second Reading -- these are coming from all parts of the world. Muriel

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Isn't this getting a bit out of hand on the list? You have said yourselves it is off topic, now the flaming and exchange of snide insults is getting rather childish. Kindly take it off the list and flame each other to your heart's content off the list. Thank you. David -----Original Message----- From: fredastewart <fritzzi@shaw.ca> Sent: Oct 4, 2004 3:44 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CCC] THE LAW IS THE LAW Well while I agree with David that this subject doesn't have much to do with release of census - it does show up the hypocritical attitude of the reigning power. Jim is right too though, that in bending over backwards with their political correctness the government has denigrated the very fiber that made Canada what it is. And who/picks up the pieces in the social injustices pepetrated on many of our population - yeah right! the churches. I personally do not have a problem with anyone not belonging to, paying lip service to, or otherwise having anything to do with any religion, BUT please allow me the right as well to make my choices without nasty slurs and comments. Freda Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dixon" <dxn@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:35 PM Subject: [CCC] THE LAW IS THE LAW > Off topic, OR IS IT: > > IF THE LAW IS THE LAW > > So if the Canadian and US governments determine that it is against the law > for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it. > > And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to > be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. > > And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which > they deem their authority, then so be it. > > I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding Canadian > and/or US citizen. > > I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than > I are in positions to make good decisions. > > I would like to think that those people have the Publics' best interests > at heart. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE? > > Since we can't pray to God, > can't Trust in God > and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, > > I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in > the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honour the God that our > government is eliminating from many facets of Canadian and American life. > > I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & > Easter. > > After all, it's just another day. > > I'd like the Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good > Friday,Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. > > After all, it's just another day. > > I'd like the all government officials, and employees at any level....to > not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." > > After all ~ it's just another day. I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer > dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on > Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. > > It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other > day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically > correct". > > In fact.... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially > set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says > that it should be just another day.... > > What do you think???? > > If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop > giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the > 'majority' of ALL of the Canadian and American people. > > SO BE IT........... > > Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country! > 'Amen' and 'Amen' Touche! > > These are definitely things I never thought too much about, but from now > on, I will! and I will be sure to question those, in government, who > support these changes. > > At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around Canada and the USA > several times over!!!!!" Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox > and resend it whenever someone new comes along. > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Off topic, OR IS IT: IF THE LAW IS THE LAW So if the Canadian and US governments determine that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it. And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority, then so be it. I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding Canadian and/or US citizen. I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions. I would like to think that those people have the Publics' best interests at heart. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE? Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honour the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of Canadian and American life. I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day. I'd like the Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday,Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day. I'd like the all government officials, and employees at any level....to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all ~ it's just another day. I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct". In fact.... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day.... What do you think???? If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the Canadian and American people. SO BE IT........... Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country! 'Amen' and 'Amen' Touche! These are definitely things I never thought too much about, but from now on, I will! and I will be sure to question those, in government, who support these changes. At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around Canada and the USA several times over!!!!!" Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along.

Jim Dixon et al; In my opinion this Subject is definitely off topic. It has absolutely nothing to do with the campaign to liberate the 1911, and later, census. But since you started it; I see no justification for my government to force someone else's religion on me. The government of Canada is by and for all Canadians, not just Christian Canadians. David Pike Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada dpike@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dixon" <dxn@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [CCC] THE LAW IS THE LAW > Off topic, OR IS IT: > > IF THE LAW IS THE LAW > -------< snip >-------

Greetings All As List Administrator I receive messages posted to the CCC list in both List Mode and Digest Mode. I have now seen posts by Freda and David referring to a post by dxn@nbnet.nb.ca directed to the CCC list with the subject line 'THE LAW IS THE LAW'. I have yet, however to receive the original post to which they refer and I will be checking with RootsWeb regarding this. This occurance makes me wonder what other posts may not be coming through. In administering the CCC list I have been very flexible in what I have allowed to be discussed as 'Off-Topic'. This particular post however is extremely 'Off-Topic' even by my flexible definition. This message had nothing whatsoever to do with Census, Genealogy or History I give fair warning to everyone subscribed to the CCC list that religion, and how the government (regardless of what country) has or has not dealt with religious issues is very definitely OFF-TOPIC for this list. I do not wish to see any further posts to the CCC list on this thread and I expect listers to respect my wishes regarding this. Taking this one step further -- if any lister feels that a post to the CCC list is 'off-topic' kindly let me, as list administrator, deal with it. Commenting online regarding an 'off-topic' post does nothing other than continue the thread. If you feel a topic is inappropriate, why would you ensure it continues by posting about it onlist? If you feel compelled to comment about such a post please do so privately to me. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts List Administrator

Well while I agree with David that this subject doesn't have much to do with release of census - it does show up the hypocritical attitude of the reigning power. Jim is right too though, that in bending over backwards with their political correctness the government has denigrated the very fiber that made Canada what it is. And who/picks up the pieces in the social injustices pepetrated on many of our population - yeah right! the churches. I personally do not have a problem with anyone not belonging to, paying lip service to, or otherwise having anything to do with any religion, BUT please allow me the right as well to make my choices without nasty slurs and comments. Freda Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dixon" <dxn@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:35 PM Subject: [CCC] THE LAW IS THE LAW > Off topic, OR IS IT: > > IF THE LAW IS THE LAW > > So if the Canadian and US governments determine that it is against the law > for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it. > > And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to > be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. > > And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which > they deem their authority, then so be it. > > I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding Canadian > and/or US citizen. > > I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than > I are in positions to make good decisions. > > I would like to think that those people have the Publics' best interests > at heart. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE? > > Since we can't pray to God, > can't Trust in God > and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, > > I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in > the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honour the God that our > government is eliminating from many facets of Canadian and American life. > > I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & > Easter. > > After all, it's just another day. > > I'd like the Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good > Friday,Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. > > After all, it's just another day. > > I'd like the all government officials, and employees at any level....to > not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." > > After all ~ it's just another day. I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer > dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on > Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. > > It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other > day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically > correct". > > In fact.... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially > set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says > that it should be just another day.... > > What do you think???? > > If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop > giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the > 'majority' of ALL of the Canadian and American people. > > SO BE IT........... > > Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country! > 'Amen' and 'Amen' Touche! > > These are definitely things I never thought too much about, but from now > on, I will! and I will be sure to question those, in government, who > support these changes. > > At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around Canada and the USA > several times over!!!!!" Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox > and resend it whenever someone new comes along. > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. >

Hello List, Think maybe we can get Arnold to run for Prime Minister up here, maybe he can get the census released. Regards >The California State Archives is delighted to announce that Governor Arnold >Schwarzenegger has signed AB 2719. This bill, whose primary sponsor was the >Secretary of State, will open all records held by the State Archives 75 >years after date of creation. Currently, records from such state agencies as >Corrections, Youth Authority, Mental Health and many others are restricted >from public access indefinitely. This legislation will be effective January >1, 2005, opening all records created before 1931. More detailed information >will follow on the State Archives web site in the coming weeks: Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) and your Host for the Simcoe County Genweb page at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml Ontario, Canada and your Host for the Parry Sound Muskoka Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/parrysound.html 1. Historic Plaques of Ontario 1,384 Plaques online http://www.waynecook.com 2. The Canadian Query Boards at http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html

To all:- So far, only one province and territory have all Members of Parliament in agreement with census release -- Nova Scotia and Yukon. Some of the dates are back in 2001 -- much has happened since then and we look forward to a NEW census bill, one which reflects OUR wishes and desires -- no restrictions, transfer to National Archives, no longer than 92 years. The notes to the Members of Parliament need not be long, and hopefully his/her secretary will not keep the e-mail. Please send a copy of any messages re above to both Gordon and myself -- use BCC, please. All represent different parts of Canada -- this includes our American committee members. Check the message board under names of MPs http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm We do not know what will be happening, so let's be prepared with petitions and lots of signatures, please -- both from Canada and other parts of the world. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

Hi Dorothy. I am sure that if anyone has information to help you they will do so offline. Please be advised that the purpose of the Canada Census Campaign mail list is to provide a forum for those seeking to regain public access to Historic Census records in Canada. It is not for personal queries or lookups I wish you luck in your search. Have a great day! Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Wichman" <mdwichman@neb.rr.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:25 PM Subject: [CCC] Jeremaih H Delong was born on 1828 at Bellevilla, Prince Co Ontario Prov. Canada. who were his parents??? My DeLong history mentioned that Simon and Catherine (Dempsey) DeLong was unconfirmed to Jeremiah but he had brother, Conard Delong.. Jeremiah H Delong married to Phebe Ann Smith on may 17 1851 at Milford Canada. their 6 children were born in Bellavilla Canada : Jeremaih T Delong ???? to son to Jeremaih and Phebe Delong Charles H DeLong George Frank DeLong John Franklin DeLong (my great grandpa) Mary DeLong Anna J DeLong William James DeLong Any related to you ??? I need your help. Look for your answer soon. Thanks, Dorothy here is my address: mdwichman@neb.rr.com ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.