I was under the impression that this contract had been cancelled due to public pressure against it. Am I wrong Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tweetybird" <tweetybirdone@cogeco.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: [CCC] 1906 CENSUS I DO NOT LIKE THIS IDEA AT ALL > Subsidiary of US weapons manufacturer will help conduct Canada's 2006 > census > > Sat Oct 9, 2:35 PM ET > > STEVE LAMBERT > > (CP) - The federal government has finalized a $43.3-million deal that will > see the 2006 census conducted with the help of the Canadian subsidiary of > a > U.S. weapons manufacturer. > > While Lockheed Martin Canada Inc. won an open competition for the work, > some > peace groups and opposition politicians are concerned about taxpayer > dollars > going to a weapons-builder. > > "There's a moral issue, I believe, in having an arms manufacturing > industry > . . do our census data collection among citizens who are very diverse and > also have relatives . . abroad who could be hurt from the actual products > they use," New Democrat MP Brian Masse said in an interview from his home > in > Windsor, Ont. > > "We're concerned about Lockheed Martin's advocacy of the Star Wars program > of missile defence," said Darrell Rankin, an organizer with the No War > Coalition in Manitoba. > > Lockheed Martin officials were not immediately available for comment. > > When negotiations with the company began more than one year ago, federal > officials defended the contract, saying Lockheed Martin helped the United > States and the United Kingdom modernize their census programs. > > Under its contract with Statistics Canada, Lockheed Martin Canada will > develop hardware and software to process census forms, even ones filled > out > by hand. > > "It's very specialized software, using scanners, to actually digitize > hand-written responses from 13.6 million households," said Anil Arora, > director of the federal census program. > > The computer programs will, for the first time, allow Statistics Canada to > accept census forms filed electronically. > > There are safeguards in place to ensure the private company cannot get > access to the census information, Arora said. > > Lockheed Martin has worked in the United States to develop the space-based > missile-defence system, which has been dubbed Star Wars, and its Canadian > subsidiary has worked with the Canadian military. The company also works > in > the information technology sector. > > While the company will supply the technology for the census, it will not > have access to any completed census forms. > > "All the locations where questionnaires and data are handled are > Statistics > Canada sites," said Arora. > > "They are completely isolated. There's no external connection from the > outside that anybody could hack into." > > Critics fear some census information could leak out and make its way into > the hands of the U.S. government. > > They point to the U.S. Patriot Act, which was enacted following the > terrorist attacks of 2001. It allows the FBI (news - web sites) and other > U.S. authorities access to information held by private American companies. > There are concerns that power might extend to companies in Canada and > other > countries with headquarters in the United States. > > "It's our understanding that it makes Canadian information vulnerable," > said > Masse, who is the NDP's industry critic. > > British Columbia's privacy commissioner has launched an investigation into > how the Patriot Act might affect B.C. residents. > > Two firms with American headquarters have bid to help administer medical > billings for the province. > > Privacy commissioner David Loukidelis is examining whether the Patriot Act > would let the U.S. government force such companies to hand over personal > information about British Columbians. > > Statistics Canada says security concerns about the census are not valid. > > "No private sector contractor will have access to completed census > questionnaires," said Arora. > > That information, Arora added, will only be available to Statistics Canada > employees who have signed confidentiality agreements. > > Carol (tweetybird) > > Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> > > Visit my home page for "Home Children" information > and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. > > Family Tree; <http://www.tweetybirdfamily.bravehost.com/> > Searching : > Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, > Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. >

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Subsidiary of US weapons manufacturer will help conduct Canada's 2006 census Sat Oct 9, 2:35 PM ET STEVE LAMBERT (CP) - The federal government has finalized a $43.3-million deal that will see the 2006 census conducted with the help of the Canadian subsidiary of a U.S. weapons manufacturer. While Lockheed Martin Canada Inc. won an open competition for the work, some peace groups and opposition politicians are concerned about taxpayer dollars going to a weapons-builder. "There's a moral issue, I believe, in having an arms manufacturing industry . . do our census data collection among citizens who are very diverse and also have relatives . . abroad who could be hurt from the actual products they use," New Democrat MP Brian Masse said in an interview from his home in Windsor, Ont. "We're concerned about Lockheed Martin's advocacy of the Star Wars program of missile defence," said Darrell Rankin, an organizer with the No War Coalition in Manitoba. Lockheed Martin officials were not immediately available for comment. When negotiations with the company began more than one year ago, federal officials defended the contract, saying Lockheed Martin helped the United States and the United Kingdom modernize their census programs. Under its contract with Statistics Canada, Lockheed Martin Canada will develop hardware and software to process census forms, even ones filled out by hand. "It's very specialized software, using scanners, to actually digitize hand-written responses from 13.6 million households," said Anil Arora, director of the federal census program. The computer programs will, for the first time, allow Statistics Canada to accept census forms filed electronically. There are safeguards in place to ensure the private company cannot get access to the census information, Arora said. Lockheed Martin has worked in the United States to develop the space-based missile-defence system, which has been dubbed Star Wars, and its Canadian subsidiary has worked with the Canadian military. The company also works in the information technology sector. While the company will supply the technology for the census, it will not have access to any completed census forms. "All the locations where questionnaires and data are handled are Statistics Canada sites," said Arora. "They are completely isolated. There's no external connection from the outside that anybody could hack into." Critics fear some census information could leak out and make its way into the hands of the U.S. government. They point to the U.S. Patriot Act, which was enacted following the terrorist attacks of 2001. It allows the FBI (news - web sites) and other U.S. authorities access to information held by private American companies. There are concerns that power might extend to companies in Canada and other countries with headquarters in the United States. "It's our understanding that it makes Canadian information vulnerable," said Masse, who is the NDP's industry critic. British Columbia's privacy commissioner has launched an investigation into how the Patriot Act might affect B.C. residents. Two firms with American headquarters have bid to help administer medical billings for the province. Privacy commissioner David Loukidelis is examining whether the Patriot Act would let the U.S. government force such companies to hand over personal information about British Columbians. Statistics Canada says security concerns about the census are not valid. "No private sector contractor will have access to completed census questionnaires," said Arora. That information, Arora added, will only be available to Statistics Canada employees who have signed confidentiality agreements. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Family Tree; <http://www.tweetybirdfamily.bravehost.com/> Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover

Greetings All. This is the third time that I am aware of that this issue has been raised. To see the response of Statistics Canada regarding the last time it came up, access their website at < http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/info/outsource/outsourcing.cfm > Aside from the aspect of possibly taking work away from Canadians, I do not personally have a problem with the purchase of hardware and software from an outside contractor. My concern would be that no outside contractor have access to completed Census forms or information. StatCan claims this will not happen, but read it for yourself at the webite given above. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tweetybird" <tweetybirdone@cogeco.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:33 PM Subject: [CCC] 1906 CENSUS I DO NOT LIKE THIS IDEA AT ALL Subsidiary of US weapons manufacturer will help conduct Canada's 2006 census Sat Oct 9, 2:35 PM ET STEVE LAMBERT (CP) - The federal government has finalized a $43.3-million deal that will see the 2006 census conducted with the help of the Canadian subsidiary of a U.S. weapons manufacturer. While Lockheed Martin Canada Inc. won an open competition for the work, some peace groups and opposition politicians are concerned about taxpayer dollars going to a weapons-builder. "There's a moral issue, I believe, in having an arms manufacturing industry . . do our census data collection among citizens who are very diverse and also have relatives . . abroad who could be hurt from the actual products they use," New Democrat MP Brian Masse said in an interview from his home in Windsor, Ont. "We're concerned about Lockheed Martin's advocacy of the Star Wars program of missile defence," said Darrell Rankin, an organizer with the No War Coalition in Manitoba. Lockheed Martin officials were not immediately available for comment. When negotiations with the company began more than one year ago, federal officials defended the contract, saying Lockheed Martin helped the United States and the United Kingdom modernize their census programs. Under its contract with Statistics Canada, Lockheed Martin Canada will develop hardware and software to process census forms, even ones filled out by hand. "It's very specialized software, using scanners, to actually digitize hand-written responses from 13.6 million households," said Anil Arora, director of the federal census program. The computer programs will, for the first time, allow Statistics Canada to accept census forms filed electronically. There are safeguards in place to ensure the private company cannot get access to the census information, Arora said. Lockheed Martin has worked in the United States to develop the space-based missile-defence system, which has been dubbed Star Wars, and its Canadian subsidiary has worked with the Canadian military. The company also works in the information technology sector. While the company will supply the technology for the census, it will not have access to any completed census forms. "All the locations where questionnaires and data are handled are Statistics Canada sites," said Arora. "They are completely isolated. There's no external connection from the outside that anybody could hack into." Critics fear some census information could leak out and make its way into the hands of the U.S. government. They point to the U.S. Patriot Act, which was enacted following the terrorist attacks of 2001. It allows the FBI (news - web sites) and other U.S. authorities access to information held by private American companies. There are concerns that power might extend to companies in Canada and other countries with headquarters in the United States. "It's our understanding that it makes Canadian information vulnerable," said Masse, who is the NDP's industry critic. British Columbia's privacy commissioner has launched an investigation into how the Patriot Act might affect B.C. residents. Two firms with American headquarters have bid to help administer medical billings for the province. Privacy commissioner David Loukidelis is examining whether the Patriot Act would let the U.S. government force such companies to hand over personal information about British Columbians. Statistics Canada says security concerns about the census are not valid. "No private sector contractor will have access to completed census questionnaires," said Arora. That information, Arora added, will only be available to Statistics Canada employees who have signed confidentiality agreements. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Family Tree; <http://www.tweetybirdfamily.bravehost.com/> Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. 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Thank you Gordon. Your comments give some food for thought, and when all is said and done they may be proven to have some validity. In that, only time will tell. In his refusal to follow the recommendations of the Information Commissioner it is my considered opinion that the Honourable David Emerson, Minister of Industry, was likely not following his own dictates but as others have done before him was simply echoing the desires of the Chief Statistician. Of course, not having seen the letter he sent to the Information Commissioner giving possible reasons for that refusal I cannot be certain of this, but that is my gut feeling. Mr. Emerson was elected to the Parliament on 28 June 2004. He was appointed as Minister of Industry 20 July 2004. He rejected the recommendation of Mr. Reid on 24 August 2004 -- five weeks after being appointed as Minister of Industry. With all that he would have had on his plate during this period he would hardly have had time to become fully aware of and conversant with the Census access issue. At the time of his decision he would hardly have had time to receive the benefit of seeing letters to him from supporters of access. By that time he certainly had not received my personal correspondences to him. In actual fact, I have been advised by someone in the Vancouver office of the Ministry of Industry that it is highly unlikely that the Honourable Mr. Emerson will ever personally see any of our correspondences on this issue. I was not given any encouragement in my attempt to obtain an appointment to meet with Mr. Emerson either in his constituency office or in the Vancouver Ministry offices. As important as the Census issue is to us -- and we would like to think that it is equally important to the Parliamentary representatives we look to for support -- looking at things realistically, for most of them it is likely near the bottom of their lists of priorities. Issues such as the economy, health, a daycare program for children and programs for Seniors, aboriginal Canadians, cities and communities, the environment, pride and influence in the world, and governing in 'common purpose' played a major part in the Speech from the Throne on the opening of the 38th Parliament of Canada. There was no mention of the Census issue, nor had I expected any as our concerns regarding this, when compared to most other issues would be considered 'small potatoes'. I recently received an email from someone who had called the Office of the Minister of Industry in an attempt to find out why the Honourable Mr. Emerson had rejected the recommendation of the Information Commissioner to release the 1911 Census records. She was unable to get an answer to that but was apparently advised that "both the Chief Statstician and Mr. Emerson are in favor of releasing historical documents, such as the 1911 Census". She was also advised that "the two of them have been working together on a bill that would clarify the parameters......and allow for the release of the information." Supposedly such a Bill would be tabled soon. My informant was apparently advised that "everyone involved in genealogical research would like it.". It seems to me the government has told us that before. I cannot speak to Mr. Emerson's personal feeling regarding access to 92-year-old Census records and will reserve judgement on that until I see some response to our messages to him. I am however, frankly sceptical when anyone tells me that the Chief Statistician is "in favour" of releasing the 1911 or subsequent Census records. The record shows otherwise. I am concerned that any Bill that Dr. Fellegi plays a significant part in drafting will be, as was Bill S-13, more concerned with placing conditions and restrictions upon access to Historic Census records than it is on providing the access sought. In particular, I am concerned that it will include the "informed consent" clause that so many, including the Information Commissioner, have voiced objection to. In my opininon it was that clause, more than any other, that caused the demise of Bill S-13. In our correspondence, and on our current petitions, we have suggested the wording for a single clause to be added to the Statistics Act. That clause would provide for the transfer of records of Historic Census records after 1906 to the National Archivist for subsequent release, with no added conditions or restrictions, on the same basis as 240 years of records up to that time have been released. Release to public access after 92 years would continue to be governed by clauses of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations. It remains to be seen if the government pays any attention to our representations when drafting a new Bill. I will be watching with great interest for any new Bill that purports to provide the access we seek. I will in particular be watching to see what conditions and restrictions it might impose on that access. Happy Hunting. Gordon W. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Berdahl To: Gordon A. Watts Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - Information Commissioner responses Gordon, This is to advise that today I received my response from the Information Commissioner and am sending him my signed consent for him to apply for review by the Federal Court. Mr. Reid has provided a very strong analysis and conclusions, and it looks fairly promising at this point. But it seems so silly, for one branch of the Federal Government to have to go through this convoluted and time-consuming process in order to get another branch of the same government to comply with the law - all at taxpayer expense, of course. It appears that the Minister of Industry (likely representing the view of his Chief Statistician) either: a. thinks that StatsCan will win in this Court because of their recent win in the case represented by Lois Sparling, b. thinks that a new Bill, similar to S-13, will be introduced to circumvent this process, or c. just wants to drag this out as long as possible prior to a twelfth hour release like they did for the 1906 census. If they win in this Court, it would be disastrous for genealogists and historians. At worst, it would likely result in us never seeing another census. At best, it could result in a new Bill that is as bad as or worse than Bill S-13. Gordon Berdahl

Gordon: Received Information Commission Info Oct 8/04. Response will be next week. Chas Crosby

Hi Gordon, I received my package from the Information Commissioner this morning, I am putting it in the mail tomorrow. ­­ ­Shirley Richardson Kelowna B.C.

Gordon, Received the Information Commissioner's reply yesterday, October 7th, signed and mailed back my request form this morning. Richard Bulmer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.774 / Virus Database: 521 - Release Date: 07/10/04

Gordon: Subject letter arrived to-day. Signed acceptance will be posted to-morrow. Ron Chester Lions Bay, BC

Gordon, I received my package from the Information Commissioner this morning. I will try and get this taken care of ASAP. Jean M. Smith Kelowna, British Columbia

Gordon, I received my package from the Information Commissioner this morning. I will try and get this taken care of ASAP. Lorne Smith Kelowna, British Columbia

Happy Thanksgiving to all -- and I hope to watch the Ocktoberfest Parade from Kitchener!! Muriel ========== 'Twas the night of Thanksgiving, but I just couldn't sleep. I tried counting backwards, I tried counting sheep. The leftovers beckoned -- the dark meat and white, But I fought the temptation with all of my might. Tossing and turning with anticipation..... The thought of a snack became infatuation..... So I raced to the kitchen, flung open the door, And gazed at the fridge full of goodies galore. I gobbled up turkey and buttered potatoes, Pickles and carrots, beans and tomatoes. I felt myself swelling so plump and so round, 'Til all of a sudden, I rose off the ground! I crashed through the ceiling, floating into the sky..... With a mouthful of pudding and a handful of pie, But I managed to yell as I soared past the trees..... HAPPY EATING TO ALL !! PASS THE CRANBERRIES PLEASE !! May your stuffing be tasty, Your turkey be plump. May your taters 'n gravy Have nary a lump. May your yams be delicious, Your pies take the prize, May your Thanksgiving dinner Stay well off your thighs!!! MAY YOUR THANKSGIVING TRULY BE A BLESSED ONE THIS YEAR!!!

Hi Gordon, I received my package from the Information Commissioner this morning. I will try and get this taken care of ASAP. Bye for now, Joe K. Saskatoon, SK --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

I received my report from the Information Commissioner in this morning's mail and I am on my way to the Post Office now to send the signed consent form to authorize him to make an application for review by the Federal Court. Leland Harvie, Halifax, Nova Scotia

Thanks Joe. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Kuchta" <deserttwylight@yahoo.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:00 AM Subject: [CCC] Information Commissioner's Report Hi Gordon, I received my package from the Information Commissioner this morning. I will try and get this taken care of ASAP. Bye for now, Joe K. Saskatoon, SK --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

Thank you Leland. While it may be too late to mention this for some who have already mailed their Consent Form it would be advisable to retain a copy of the signed form for possible future reference. They may not be needed in the future, but one can never tell. Thanks again to all. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:02 AM Subject: [CCC] Information Commissioner's Report I received my report from the Information Commissioner in this morning's mail and I am on my way to the Post Office now to send the signed consent form to authorize him to make an application for review by the Federal Court. Leland Harvie, Halifax, Nova Scotia ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net

Greetings All On Monday 4 October I gave fair notice that religion, and how the government (regardless of what country) has or has not dealt with religious issues is very definitely OFF-TOPIC for this list. I stated I do not wish to see any further posts to the CCC list on this thread and I expected listers to respect my wishes regarding this. One of my two rules for this list is NO FLAMES. I expect that rule to be followed.. The topic thread started with the subject line THE LAW IS THE LAW is not only OFF-TOPIC for the CCC list -- it is OUT-OF-BOUNDS. Postings regarding it are to stop -- NOW. From the time this message is posted, should ANYONE continue this thread their email address will immediately, and without further notice, be placed on the reject list so that I can monitor any further posts by them. They will remain on the reject list until I can be reasonably certain that the few rules of the CCC list are being followed and that this particular thread is dead. I sincerely hope that it will not be found necessary to do this. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts CCC List Administrator.

Whoa......... Let me see if i understand, since you can't shove your religion down everybody's throats, that means you can't "trust under god" unless sponsored by government? Jim, you must be a very, very weak Christian. Why in the world would you need government to sponsor your specific religious beliefs before you pray? How asinine. > [Original Message] > From: Jim Dixon <dxn@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/4/2004 1:36:03 PM > Subject: [CCC] THE LAW IS THE LAW > > Off topic, OR IS IT: > > IF THE LAW IS THE LAW > > So if the Canadian and US governments determine that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it. > > And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. > > And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority, then so be it. > > I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding Canadian and/or US citizen. > > I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions. > > I would like to think that those people have the Publics' best interests at heart. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE? > > Since we can't pray to God, > can't Trust in God > and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, > > I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honour the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of Canadian and American life. > > I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. > > After all, it's just another day. > > I'd like the Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday,Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. > > After all, it's just another day. > > I'd like the all government officials, and employees at any level....to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." > > After all ~ it's just another day. I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. > > It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct". > > In fact.... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day.... > > What do you think???? > > If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the Canadian and American people. > > SO BE IT........... > > Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country! 'Amen' and 'Amen' Touche! > > These are definitely things I never thought too much about, but from now on, I will! and I will be sure to question those, in government, who support these changes. > > At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around Canada and the USA several times over!!!!!" Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along. > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

I sent in my request in July 2003 I finally got my response to day. Return letter with my signature is already mailed back Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Family Tree; <http://www.tweetybirdfamily.bravehost.com/> Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover

Gordon W. Good morning. I received my letter from the Information Commissioner yesterday. My authorization was signed and mailed back to him this morning. The view of the commissioner seems pretty clear. Best wishes: Gordon T. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca