-----Original Message----- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:13 PM To: Stronach, Belinda - M.P. Cc: Gordon Watts; Muriel Davidson Subject: RE: Waiting for your reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Thank you very much for your reply and to let us know that Belinda Stonach supports the worthy cause of perserving our heritage. Her support will be added to the "Saving the Canadian Census" site so that no more emails will be sent to her on this subject. You will beable to monitor this on the folllowing site http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Thanks again for your support. Adele Turner North Vancouver, BC -----Original Message----- From: Stronach, Belinda - M.P. [mailto:Stronach.B@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:56 PM To: Adele Turner Subject: RE: Waiting for your reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Dear Ms. Turner: Thank you very much for your note of congratulations for Ms. Stronach's electoral success, and more recently your letter expressing support for the release of post-1901 census records. I appreciate knowing your views on this issue and am pleased to be given the opportunity of providing you with our position. Ms. Stronach wanted me to let you know that the Conservative Party supports the preservation of census records and the subsequent transfer of these records to the National Archives for public release. We believe that keeping the records confidential for the historical 92-year period is an adequate length of time, and that this is generally consistent with the practice in Britain and the United States, where records are kept confidential for 100 and 72 years respectively. Thank you again, and please let us know of any further concerns. Kindest Regards, Mike Liebrock Mike Liebrock Assistant to Belinda Stronach MP House of Commons Ottawa ph. 613 992.9310 fax. 613 992.9407 Visit Belinda's website: www.belinda.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: October 13, 2004 5:23 PM To: Stronach, Belinda - M.P. Subject: Waiting for your reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Ms. Belinda Stronach: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Ontario riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter.then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can't be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don't give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn't even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn't my Dad's. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

Thank you very much for your quick reply to my email sent this afternoon. I have forwarded it to our Co-Chairmen so that they can record your reply. I hope that this means that when this BILL comes to a vote that we CAN count on your support. You will no longer be bombarded with messages from our Committee and its supporters. You can monitor it by going to the following site: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm Again thank you,Adele Turner -----Original Message----- From: Guergis, Helena - M.P. [mailto:Guergis.H@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:55 PM To: Adele Turner Subject: RE: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Miss Turner: Thank you for your e-mail expressing support for the release of post-1901 census records. I appreciate knowing your views on this issue and am pleased to be given the opportunity to provide you with the position of the Conservative Party of Canada. The Conservative Party of Canada supports the preservation of census records and the subsequent transfer of these records to the National Archives for public release. We believe that keeping the records confidential for the historical 92-year period is an adequate length of time, and that this is generally consistent with the practice in Britain and the United States, where records are kept confidential for 100 and 72 years respectively. I appreciate you taking the time to write to me. Helena Guergis, Member of Parliament Simcoe - Grey 625 Confederation Building House of Commons Ottawa ON K1A 0A6 (613) 992-4224-T. (613) 992-2164-F. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 5:01 PM To: Guergis, Helena - M.P. Subject: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Ms. Helena Guergis: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Ontario riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter.then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can't be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don't give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn't even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn't my Dad's. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

Many thanks for your comment -- but you are incorrect. I am a list administrator as well -- but only of Canadian lists, as different countries, for example, Canada and United States have different customs. As my mother was American, I KNOW the American Thanksgiving Day is in November and thoroughly enjoy the Thanksgiving Day parade -- our family also had an EXTRA Thanksgiving Day. As list administrator of a Canadian list, you should become accustomed to Canadian customs -- or give the list over to a Canadian. The Canadian Thanksgiving Day is always the second Monday in October, complete with all the turkey and other goodies enjoyed by Americans in November. Our parade is always the Ocktoberfest Parade, in which many American bands took part, and televised from Kitchener, Ontario. Should you ever desire to know other special holidays in which Canada and United States differ, I do not mind replying, e.g. we celebrate July 1 -- United States celebrates July 4. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: SLWCEW2@aol.com To: muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [QC-ETANGLO] Post 1901 Census - House Petitions In a message dated 10/12/2004 7:53:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca writes: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - House Petitions Greetings all. I hope that everyone had a good Thanksgiving weekend and that you had your fill of turkey. I spend a part of the weekend collating Census Petitions to the House of Commons received to date. The totals as I write this are as follows: Muriel: Thanksgiving is in November and has not happened yet.

We will have to wait to see which colour suymbol Gordon will choose -- Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poilievre, Pierre - M.P." <Poilievre.P@parl.gc.ca> To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:12 PM Subject: RE: We Are Waiting for Your Positive Reply Thank you for contacting me about access to census data. Census records are an invaluable source of information for those conducting historical or genealogical research. The Official Opposition voted unanimously in favour of a motion that stated: "That in the opinion of this House, the government should take all necessary steps to release the 1911 census records once they have been deposited in the National Archives in 2003." Rest assured, I am monitoring this issue closely. In the current Parliament, with a minority government, all Members of Parliament have a greater opportunity for constructive input to help bring a positive resolution to this important matter. If I can be of any further assistance to you in the future, please do not hesitate to contact my office. -- Pierre Poilievre, M.P. (Nepean-Carleton) Phone: 613-992-2772 Fax:613-992-1209 Email: poilip@parl.gc.ca Web: www.fightingforyou.ca -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson [mailto:muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca] Sent: October 12, 2004 10:33 PM To: Poilievre, Pierre - M.P. Subject: We Are Waiting for Your Positive Reply Mr. Pierre Poilievre, MP -- Nepean-Carleton riding It has been mentioned to me that all Members of Parliament of both Conservative and NDP parties are in complete agreement for release of our 1911 Canadian census. Please do not forward to David Emerson, Minister of Industry -- but reply -- even just a few words by email will do. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ON [Check your message board under your name -- at left]

A new message is appearing on Parliament Hill when one is trying to send a message to a Member of Parliament. At first I thought something was wrong with my computer. The message is 452 - Too busy to accept mail right now, try again later. Muriel M. Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brown, Gord - M.P." <Brown.G@parl.gc.ca> To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:34 AM Subject: RE: I Have Been Waiting to Hear from You Muriel, Bill S-13 was not voted on in the last session. We expect a similar Bill will resurface in this session. Although the Senate passed bill S-13 there were some privacy and timing issues that delayed it in the House. Members, including those in my party, who had supported it initially, became concerned. As of today, those concerns have not yet been satisfactorily answered. I understand the desire to research census records. Unfortunately privacy regulations in place in Canada may interfere with access to certain information. I understand that my party's legal experts are studying the issue so that when it comes forward again we will be in a better position to make a recommendation. I will contact you again, as soon as I learn anything further about this Bill. Gord Brown, Member of Parliament Leeds-Grenville 747 Confederation Building Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 Tel: 613-992-8756 Fax: 613-996-9171 -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson [mailto:muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca] Sent: October 12, 2004 10:03 PM To: Brown, Gord - M.P. Subject: I Have Been Waiting to Hear from You Mr. Gordon Brown - MP -- Leeds-Grenville riding It has been mentioned to me that all Members of Parliament of both Conservative and NDP parties are in complete agreement for release of our 1911 Canadian census. Please do not forward to David Emerson, Minister of Industry -- but reply -- even just a few words by email will do. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ON [Check your message board under your name -- at left]

Hi Gordon - My consent form was mailed to the Information Commissioner today, also copies to you. Inez Allen

To everyone and a special thanks to Gordon, Muriel, Lois and Senator Lorna Milne for the unending giving of their time and direction for so many years. My ancestors, my children and myself are grateful for the time so many folks have volunteered to see the release, and (hopefully) continued release, of our Historical census. I realize we are not finished yet, but I do have hope for the 'fruits of our labour'. ~ Lyn

Gordon: My letter arrived in the mail today. I shall sign and return it tomorrow. As advised by you, I shall keep a copy of the letter. Rene Dussome Calgary

To all:- James P. Barnaby has not been well for some time and is one of the seniors on a disability pension -- he and I have discussed this many times. I would suggest a card to his home address as his sister will be checking the mail -- it would be great for her to arrive at The Halifax Informary with bags of cards!! Very often, a card is better than medication!! If you do not have a card, send a cheery note -- James would welcome that -- NO census, NO other Parliamentary stuff -- just good thoughts, please. Muriel -- just one of his friends. =========== Greetings to the list, Here is a snail mail address for those who whish to send get-well cards...His sister will be checking the snail mail. And for those of you who already have his phone number,any phone messages that have a name and phone number left on his voice mail, will also be checked by his sister... James Barnaby Suite 58 5222 Green Street, Halifax, NS, CANADA B3H - 1N7 Carol MacLean in Vancouver, BC., Canada ============== James is at the Halifax Informary -- a great hospital!! Please read above! James Barnaby Room 7341 - # 2 Halifax Infirmary Hospital 1796 Summer Street Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H 3A7 The hospital address from Dorothy Rafuse in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

Hi Gordon: My letter from the Information Commissioner arrived today. Will sign and return in tomorrow's mail and get the copies off to you. Freda Stewart

I received my letter from Mr. Reid inviting me to join in his Action to compel the release of the 1991 census today at the office and replied by return post (and fax). Lois Sparling Calgary, Alberta

Muriel: The reply quoted in your e-mail is word for word the same as a reply I received from the PM's office about a month ago. Gordon T. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Greetings All. This may have been an unexpected result of the PIPEDA act enabled 13 April 2000. It appears to be typical of what is happening in many areas where those having control of many of our normal sources of information are closing them out of fear of being charged with an offence. It is symptomatic of an increasing paranoia created by an atmosphere where bureaucrats are saying nobody can find out any information for anyone other than themselves. Soon we will be told that we can no longer obtain information even about ourselves. Perhaps there should be legislation to outlaw all mirrors and cameras so that we can no longer see what we look like! A hypothetical situation taken to extremes? Of course!! A ridiculous assumption of what could happen? Of course!! -- or is it?? The fear of being charged is causing more of our traditional sources of information to be closed. Whether or not this was an intended result of the legislation is unimportant -- it is happening! This serves to emphasize the importance of having our Historic Census records accessible after a reasonable period of closure. It may some day be the only source we have left. We must continue our efforts until we have been successful in restoring continued public access to these most important records. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: [CCC] The Diocese Office Must Have Received the Orders From Another Source Pembroke Diocese-Genealogical Requests Just wanted to pass this on. I wrote to St. Francis Xavier Parish to request a lookup, and they replied saying "The Diocese of Pembroke recently issued a decree stating that parishes are no longer permitted to give out information for genealogical purposes. A person may only request information for themselves or their minor children". Thought I would post this to perhaps save other listers some time and trouble. ===== A reply from Gary Boivin:- That's because of the newly enhanced Canadian privacy laws. Churches don't want to be charged. At a recent marriage I attended, the bride & groom had to sign waivers absolving the Church of any liability. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net

Pembroke Diocese-Genealogical Requests Just wanted to pass this on. I wrote to St. Francis Xavier Parish to request a lookup, and they replied saying "The Diocese of Pembroke recently issued a decree stating that parishes are no longer permitted to give out information for genealogical purposes. A person may only request information for themselves or their minor children". Thought I would post this to perhaps save other listers some time and trouble. ===== A reply from Gary Boivin:- That's because of the newly enhanced Canadian privacy laws. Churches don't want to be charged. At a recent marriage I attended, the bride & groom had to sign waivers absolving the Church of any liability.

Thank you very much for your reply and to let us know that Jean Crowder, NDP supports our worthy cause of perserving our heritage. Her support will be added to the "Saving the Canadian Census" site so that no more emails will be sent to her on this subject. You will beable to monitor this at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Thanks again for your support. Adele Turner North Vancouver, BC -----Original Message----- From: Crowder, Jean - Assistant 1 [mailto:CrowdJ0@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:38 PM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Cc: Crowder, Jean - M.P. Subject: RE: Patiently waiting for your response on the release of the Post 1901 Historical Census Dear Miss Turner, Thank-you for your letter regarding the release of the 1911 Census. We are sorry we did not respond to any previous letter you sent. As you are no doubt aware, the time just before and after an election is chaotic and we did not receive any of your previous letters at Ms. Crowder's legislative office. We apologize for the mix up. As you know, the NDP supports the release of the 1911 Census to the National Archives, as does Ms. Crowder. Thank-you, Calinda Brown Legislative Assistant to Jean Crowder, MP Nanaimo-Cowichan 613-943-2181 fax 613-993-5577 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 6:02 AM To: Crowder, Jean - M.P. Subject: Patiently waiting for your response on the release of the Post 1901 Historical Census Re: Release of 1911 National Historic Census to the National Archives Ms. Jean Crowder: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for your success by winning a seat here in BC. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and finally take a stand on the issue of our Historic Census. Secondly, I sent an email before the election and you are still have not responded. I have asked how you stood on the fight that many of us have been waging for the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census. You have not as yet replied to that email nor any other correspondence for that matter. I need to know HOW TO YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that will not be typical of your office to your constituents and fellow Canadians by ignoring correspondence sent to you. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92 year old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and family historians seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 years upwards. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is levelled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position and perhaps has served its usefulness and passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise that has finally been kept by our government MP's that have been voted into Parliament many years ago. So many promises have been made to the Canadian people over the years and have been broken by the ruling government. Discontinuation of the GST and the discontinuation of Income Tax after WWI to name just two of them. Please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. Please confirm by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

The following letter was received from the office of the Prime Minister, the Rt. Hon. Paul Martin. Due to negativity from the Minister of Industry, David Emerson, MP, I have often wondered if the Minister of Heritage should be the one to care for census release. The GREEN sign will not be changed for our Prime Minister, as we use GOLD only for positive replies. I wonder if the Prime Minister ever saw my letter? Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ===================================== October 6, 2004 Dear Mrs. Davidson: On behalf of the Right Honourable Paul Martin, I would like to thank you for your correspondence regarding the release of 1911 Census data. You may be assured that the comments you offered have been carefully reviewed. I have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of your correspondence to the Honourable David Emerson, Minister of Industry, within whose responsibilities this matter falls. I am certain that the Minister will give your views every consideration. Yours sincerely, L. A. Lavell Executive Correspondence Officer.

October 6, 2004 Dear Mrs. Davidson Thanks you very much for your email on the matter of releasing the post-1901 census records. I appreciate the time you have taken to being this matter to my attention. I do support the principle of releasing the records that will assist with genealogical research. Once again, thank you for your email Sincerely, Peter Van Loan, M.P. York-Simcoe

Greetings all. I hope that everyone had a good Thanksgiving weekend and that you had your fill of turkey. I spend a part of the weekend collating Census Petitions to the House of Commons received to date. The totals as I write this are as follows: BC 904 AB 194 SK 159 MB 76 ON 744 QC 148 NB 2 NS 262 ======= Total 2489 Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and Labrador, and the Territories are conspicuous by their absence of signatures. I hope that this will soon be remedied. In addition to the above signatures for the House of Commons I have almost 300 signatures to send to Muriel for presentation in the Senate. Please keep the petitions coming. If we truly wish to see further Census records of Canada released we must continue to tell our Parliamentarians about those wishes. Two ways of doing this are by writing letters and emails, and by signing petitions. Letters and email are important but we have no way of determining the numbers sent. On the other hand, numbers of signatures on petitions give us something we can point to as an indication of support for access. Keep them coming. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

I took a photocopy and enclosed a thank you card to I.C. and his staff. ~ Lyn White Rock, BC

My consent form has arrived and will go out in Tuesdays' mail. Many thanks to those of you who have worked so hard to (hopefully) gain access for all of us. Happy Thanksgiving. Shirley P.