« Salutations à tous. Grâce à des réponses positives envoyées par des députés à Adele Turner, trois crochets dorés ont été ajoutés au tableau de pointage des députés. Ce matin, au moment d'écrire ces lignes, le total était de 169. Lors des élections récentes, nous avons perdu 48 crochets dorés parce que le député ne s'était pas présenté aux élections ou qu'il a été défait. Depuis, nous en avons regagnés 29. Plusieurs députés qui n'avait pas répondu à nos questions durant les six dernières années, nous ont maintenant fait parvenir une réponse, dont plusieurs sont positives. Si la tendence se maintient, nous aurons, bientôt, récupéré tous les crochets dorés perdus suite aux élections. Il faut continuer à écrire à vos députés et à nous faire parvenir leur réponse. Vos lettres et courriel font la différence. Bonne chasse. » Gordon A. Watts <mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net>gordon_watts@telus.net Co-président Comité du recensement canadien Port Coquitlam, BC <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census>http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en français <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f>http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f Distribution permise Gilbert Provost Membre pour le Québec Comité du recensement canadien >Greetings all. > >With three Gold Ticks of support added to the MPs Scoreboard this >morning thanks to MP responses to Adele Turner the total as I write this >is now 169. > >With the election we lost 48 Gold Ticks because of MPs who either did >not run again, or who did not retain their seat. Since then we have >regained 29 Gold Ticks. A number of MPs who had not responded to our >questions of support for the past six years have now responded - several >of them positively. If the trend of responses continues as it has been >doing we will have soon regained all of the Gold Ticks lost at the time >of the election. > >Keep writing your MPs and sending us their responses. Your letters and >email are making a difference. > >Happy Hunting. > >Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net >Co-chair Canada Census Committee >Port Coquitlam, BC > >http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census >en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f > >Permission to forward without notice is granted

Greetings all. With three Gold Ticks of support added to the MPs Scoreboard this morning thanks to MP responses to Adele Turner the total as I write this is now 169. With the election we lost 48 Gold Ticks because of MPs who either did not run again, or who did not retain their seat. Since then we have regained 29 Gold Ticks. A number of MPs who had not responded to our questions of support for the past six years have now responded - several of them positively. If the trend of responses continues as it has been doing we will have soon regained all of the Gold Ticks lost at the time of the election. Keep writing your MPs and sending us their responses. Your letters and email are making a difference. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

Mr. Bell: When I arrived home this evening, there was a very positive personal message from you in Ottawa left on my answsering machine. You stated that you support the release of the 92-year old Census. Many thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to reply to my letter and emails with this support. As an amateur genealogist, I know you understand how important it is to preserve these historical records. Maybe one day soon, I will be able to trace my father's family back to England so I can find out what branch my sister's rare inherited degenerative bone disease has been passed down. I believe you mentioned on your message that you were asked to sit on the Finance Committee. It sounds like an important position so my congratulations too. You will beable to monitor our progress on this site: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Good Luck and thanks again for your support. Adele Turner 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 ajturner@shaw.ca 604 987-5137 PS One day when you are in town, I will drop by and introduce myself to personally give you my thanks.

Thank you very much for your reply to my email Mr. Bezan. I have forwarded it to our Co-Chairmen so that they can record your reply. I hope that this means that when this BILL comes to a vote that we CAN count on your support. You can monitor it by going to the following site: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Once again, thank you for your support, (Miss) Adele Turner North Vancouver, B C -----Original Message----- From: Bezan, James - M.P. [mailto:Bezan.J@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:49 AM To: Adele Turner Subject: RE: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Mr. Turner Thank you for your letter expressing support for the release of post-1901 census records. I appreciate knowing your views on this issue and am pleased to be given the opportunity of providing you with our position. The Conservative Party supports the preservation of census records and the subsequent transfer of these records to the National Archives for public release. We believe that keeping the records confidential for the historical 92-year period is an adequate length of time, and that this is generally consistent with the practice in Britain and the United States, where records are kept confidential for 100 and 72 years respectively. Sincerely, James Bezan, MP Selkirk-Interlake ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: October 13, 2004 4:34 PM To: Bezan, James - M.P. Subject: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Mr. James Bezan: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Manitoba riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter.then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can't be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don't give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn't even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn't my Dad's. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

PrenticeThank you very much for your reply to my email Mr. Prentice. I have forwarded it to our Co-Chairmen so that they can record your reply. I hope that this means that when this BILL comes to a vote that we CAN count on your support. You can monitor it by going to the following site: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Once again, thank you for your support, Adele Turner -----Original Message----- From: Prentice, Jim - M.P. [mailto:Prentice.J@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:57 AM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: Prentice Miss Adele J. Turner, Thank you very much for your email on the matter of releasing the post-1911 census records. I appreciate the time you have taken to bring this matter to my attention. I do support the principle of releasing the records that will assist with genealogical research. Once again, thank you for your email. Sincerely, Jim Prentice

I rec'd a letter from the Information Commisioner on the 15th of Oct and the consent form was mailed the next day. Dave Lucas

Three replies were received this morning, two were definite, one answered by a secretary. Check for new colours on the MP scoreboard for Peter Julian - MP, Burnaby-New Westminster Brian Jean - MP, Athabaska Joe Preston - MP, Elgin-Middlesex - London More answers expected!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

My Letter from the Information Commissioner arrived today, Oct. 18th The signed consent form has been faxed and copied and is in the mail now. Katherine Fraser

To Merv Tweed, MP and other subscribers:- The following letter will change the Green to a positive Gold, The vote on S-13 was not taken in the House because the Prime Minister prorogued Parliament. However, the bill was very restrictive -- making it 112 years intead of present 92 years before release. The 1911 census was scheduled to be released June 1, 2003 -- a bit overdue!! It is being withheld by the Chief Statistician. with many thanks, Muriel M. Davidson Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ---------------------- OTTAWA, October 12, 2004 Dear Mrs. Davidson: Thank you for your recent letter regarding the release of census data. I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoghts with me on this matter. I am well aware of the importance of census data to genealogistsm historians and others. In the previous government, the Senate introduced Bill S-13, which the Conservative Senators supported, however, although the bill was debated, it was never voted on in the House of Commons. I support the release of census data, and I can assure you that any legislation introduced in the House on this matter, will be given every consideration by my colleagues and I in the Conservative Party, to make sure its content is in the best interest of all concerned. Again, thank you for writing, Sincerely, Merv Tweed, MP Brandon-Souris

I arrived home from holiday to find my welcome letter from the Information Commissioner. My signed consent form is now in the mail to him, and a copy filed with my previous correspondence on the issue of post-1901 census release. Wendy Croome Ottawa

I received my letter from Mr. Reid and my signed consent form is in the mail to him. Margaret Goodman

Thank you very much for your reply Mark. We especially appreciate your support so that we can perserse our heritage. This positive reply will be added to the "Saving the Canadian Census" site. You can monitor this on the folllowing site http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Once again, thank you for your support. Adele Turner North Vancouver, BC -----Original Message----- From: Holland, Mark - M.P. [mailto:Holland.M@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:41 AM To: Adele Turner Subject: RE: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Dear Adele, Thank you very much for your e-mail about the historic census. I support the release of historic census records to genealogists, historians and other researchers. As I understand it, it should be possible to release the 1911 census records under existing laws, but a legislative change is necessary to clarify the terms of release for records after 1918. I hope the government will introduce such legislation, and I will support it if it provides access to researchers without undue restrictions. I am also asking Industry Minister David Emerson to look into the matter of releasing the 1911 records on the same basis as the 1906 records were released when Allan Rock was the minister. Thanks again for bringing your thoughts on this matter to my attention. Sincerely, Mark Holland, M.P., Ajax-Pickering (613) 995-8042 Fax: (613) 996-1289 holland.m@parl.gc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 5:00 PM To: Holland, Mark - M.P. Subject: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Mr. Mark Holland: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Ontario riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter.then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can't be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don't give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn't even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn't my Dad's. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

To all:- Prior to sending brief memos to any Members of Parliament, would all check the following scoreboard:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm Some have been requesting positive replies from many who already have the well-known GOLD symbol. I also check the GOLD symbol holders to see if their last response was recent or back in 1999 or 2001. We must keep good relations if we request or hope for his or her votes. ========== Also, we regret Glen McRae has decided to "retire" from the Canada Census Committee. He was tireless in collecting many signatures on petitions in Alberta. Many thanks, Glen! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee

Welcome aboard Paulette. Your participation in our efforts to regain public access to the 1911 and subsequent Censuses will be very welcome. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Gilchuk" <pgilchuk@insask.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: [CCC] New To the List I am new to this list, and just wanted to let everyone know that I am in support of having the census available for 1911. I am new to genealogy (4 years). I have researched my own family as well as partnered up with my husband's family genealogist. Paulette ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

I am new to this list, and just wanted to let everyone know that I am in support of having the census available for 1911. I am new to genealogy (4 years). I have researched my own family as well as partnered up with my husband's family genealogist. Paulette

My thanks to Lynn Bullock for calling me yesterday on behalf of Charlie Angus and leaving such a positive message on my answering machine. I appreciate that you took time from your busy schedule to respond. Yourself being a historian knows its importance to our perserving our heritage. Mr. Angus' support will be added to the "Saving the Canadian Census" site so that no more emails will be sent to him on this subject. You can monitor this on the folllowing site http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Would you please pass on our special thanks to Mr. Angus on behalf of our Committee. Adele Turner North Vancouver, BC -----Original Message----- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:39 PM To: Angus.C@parl.gc.ca Subject: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Mr. Charlie Angus: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Ontario riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter…then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON’T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can’t be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician’s refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to ‘correct’ a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don’t give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn’t even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn’t my Dad’s. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member – Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.caC

Dear Ms -----Original Message----- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:12 AM To: Oda, Bev - M.P. Cc: Gordon Watts; Muriel Davidson Subject: RE: Waiting for your reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Thank you very much for your quick reply on behalf of Bev Oda to my email sent yesterday. I have forwarded it to our Co-Chairmen so that they can record your reply. I hope that this means that when this BILL comes to a vote that we CAN count on HER support. You will no longer be bombarded with messages from our Committee and its supporters. You can monitor it by going to the following site: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Again thank you,Adele Turner -----Original Message----- From: Oda, Bev - M.P. [mailto:Oda.B@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:50 AM To: Adele Turner Subject: RE: Waiting for your reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Dear Ms. Turner: Thank you for your recent email message to Bev Oda, MP. Please be assured that your expression of support for the release of post-1901 census records has been noted. Ms. Oda has asked me to reply on her behalf. For your interest and information, the Conservative Party supports the preservation of census records and the subsequent transfer of these records to the National Archives for public release. We believe that keeping the records confidential for the historical 92-year period is an adequate length of time, and that this is generally consistent with the practice in Britain and the United States, where records are kept confidential for 100 and 72 years respectively. I trust the above information answers your query. Regards, Pamela Eades Member's Assistant Bev Oda, MP (Durham) Tel: (613) 992-2792 Fax: (613) 992-2794 Email: odab@parl.gc.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 5:13 PM To: Oda, Bev - M.P. Subject: Waiting for your reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Ms Bev Oda: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Ontario riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter.then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can't be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don't give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn't even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn't my Dad's. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

Thank you very much for your reply and to let us know that you support this worthy cause of perserving our heritage. Your support will be added to the "Saving the Canadian Census" site so that no more emails will be sent to her on this subject. You can monitor this on the folllowing site http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm You can also go to this same site and download petitions (House of Commons & Senate) if you wish to support this with a signature. Thanks again for your support Mr. Brown. Adele Turner North Vancouver, BC -----Original Message----- From: Brown, Gord - M.P. [mailto:Brown.G@parl.gc.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:33 AM To: Adele Turner Subject: RE: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Adele, I am in favor of releasing 1911 Census data. Gord Brown, Member of Parliament Leeds-Grenville 747 Confederation Building Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 Tel: 613-992-8756 Fax: 613-996-9171 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: October 13, 2004 4:42 PM To: Brown, Gord - M.P. Subject: Waiting for a reply re: Post 1901 Historical Census Mr.Gordon Brown: First of all, please accept my congratulations and best wishes for winning your Ontario riding. Please do us proud while serving all Canadians across the country and to finally take a personal stand on whether you desire to preserve Canadian history. Don't forget, you are answerable to ALL Canadians not just to those in your riding....when you vote in the House of Commons, you vote for all Canadians and your vote effects us all. I need to know HOW YOU stand on the Post 1901 Historic Census? Do you support its preservation or its destruction? I sure hope in the future that it will not be typical of your office to ignore correspondence sent to you or worse still by sending a "thank you letter.then stating I have passed on your concerns to Mr. Emerson whose responsibility this belongs". I HAVE written to him too and I heard nothing from him. If I eventually do, probably it will be another "thank you for your letter and your concerns, I have passed it on to Statistics Canada". PLEASE DON'T PASS THE BUCK AGAIN. I just want an answer to my question. It can't be that difficult to do take a stand. My goal, as a member of the Canada (Save Our) Census Committee, is to draw your attention to the Chief Statistician's refusal to release control for the 1911 Census records to the National Archivist. According to law, the 1911 Census should have been released June 1, 2003 and to date this has not happened. Legally, the Chief Statistician should immediately transfer all national treasures such as the 92-year-old Canadian Census to the control of the National Archivist for safekeeping and not destroyed as Dr. Ivan Fellegi wishes. You may or not be aware that for the past seven or so years, there has been a public campaign by genealogists and historians have been seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records after 1901 that has been improperly, (and believed illegally), withheld from public access by Canada's Chief Statistician, Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi. The campaign has sought to regain the same unrestricted access to records after 1906 that has been available for 240 years of Census records up to that time. We have made submissions and provided more than 65,000 petition signatures in an effort to voice our concerns for all who are searching for their historic family information. A history of our struggles with the Chief Statistician is well documented on our website, www.globalgenealogy.com/Census. Included here are findings of an Expert Panel, and the results of cross-Canada Town Hall meetings, which all show agreement that there was misinterpretation on the part of the Chief Statistician with relation to the instructions given to Enumerators. Our law presently states that release of Census data must occur 92 years after collection. During the last session of Parliament there was an attempt to push through Bill S-13, supposedly to 'correct' a deficiency, (a deficiency only perceived by the Chief Statistician). Thankfully Parliament closed down in time to prevent passage, which ultimately would have done nothing to correct anything, except add an additional 20 more unnecessary years to the release time, and provide the Chief Statistician with more control. Most other countries in the world vary in release date from 70 to 100 years. Canadian taxpayers fund a Heritage Ministry, and what is more meaningful to our heritage and history than knowing and understanding our origins and ancestry, to say nothing of valuable medical information to be found. Mr. Wayne Easter has stated thus "In this age when criticism is leveled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students, this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen". The only resolution acceptable must be the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906, as is presently available for the existing 240 years of records up to that date. Access to these records is currently permitted under The Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view these or any future records. What is required is a government which will live up to the pre-election promises the Prime Minister made of less interference by bureaucrats, and as well would require the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. After all, the Chief Statistician does not have the legal right to enact or propose laws. His is an appointed position. Perhaps he has served his usefulness plus he has passed his legal retirement age when it is compulsory for all Canadians to retire. We would request that you introduce a Government Bill which would add to the Statistics Act, a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." In closing, I hope to hear in the near future that an "original" promise voted into law by government will finally be kept. Over the years, so many promises have been made to the Canadian people have been broken by government. A couple of the broken promises made by government are the discontinuation of the GST plus the Income Tax that was to be discontinued after WWI. Neither promise was ever kept when they got voted into office. And those are but two unkept promises. So PLEASE don't give me the same old rhetoric about the Right to Privacy. My Dad at age 90 years wasn't even born when the 1911 Census was conducted. So whose Right to Privacy are you pretending to preserve? It certainly isn't my Dad's. So please help us correct this potentially tragic destruction to Canada's past and its history. I would really appreciate receiving confirmation by email whether you support our cause or not so that we can post your reply on our website. Then these letters will cease. Thanking you in advance for your PROMPT reply to this email Yours respectfully, (Miss) Adele J. Turner Canada Census Committee Member - Save our Census #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 604-987-5137 ajturner@shaw.ca

Many thanks for writing, Hilary! As soon as I received the message from QC-ETANGLO list, I knew the list administrator was American. However, we have gone through the calendar and she now knows the variances in our holidays, e.g. Thanksgiving. In our family, as my mother was American, we were lucky and had two Thanksgiving Day celebrations. Our family still does this, even though my mother is deceased. I had often wondered if the American Thanksgiving Day and the Macy's Parade signalled the start of Christmas shopping for all south of the 49th! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Henkin" <hilary@proppersource.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House Petitions The calendar I bought at WalMart notes Canadian Thanksgiving as well as the United States' . . . Personally, I'm in favor of us in the U.S. moving our Thanksgiving holiday to mid-October. After all, it is the HARVEST holiday, and who's still harvesting in November?? Besides, that way, it wouldn't get lost in the Halloween-right-into-Christmas syndrome <g>! Hilary Henkin Atlanta, Georgia Grandparents married in Toronto, cousins still there.

The calendar I bought at WalMart notes Canadian Thanksgiving as well as the United States' . . . Personally, I'm in favor of us in the U.S. moving our Thanksgiving holiday to mid-October. After all, it is the HARVEST holiday, and who's still harvesting in November?? Besides, that way, it wouldn't get lost in the Halloween-right-into-Christmas syndrome <g>! Hilary Henkin Atlanta, Georgia Grandparents married in Toronto, cousins still there.