Hi Roz. Writing to our wonderful Ms. Copps would likely not accomplish anything. She is notorious for not responding to her mail, and when she does respond is very adept in the "politician's two-step", waltzing around the issues. In my own case it took several follow up letters and email to get a response from one of her lackeys, which was basically "Stop bothering us, we will no longer communicate with you on this issue" (i.e.. census and how she would vote). That resulted in another letter to the lace, copied to Ms. Copps, Senator Milne and our PM. I suggested to the PM that Ms. Copps might want to consider whom she gives responsibility to, and that he might want to reconsider whom he appointed as Minister for Heritage. The eventual response from the PM was that my concern was noted and thanks for writing. I doubt that Ms. Copps ever saw my letter. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Griston <r_griston@dccnet.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 07 May, 2000 11:21 PM Subject: RE: [CCC-L] Fw: Census & other geneal. research people need to release policy and regulations are not legislation. i get the feeling that ms. bunting was a stickler for policy. a letter to the board of directors or management of the museum/archives should be issued..sorry, i would have called ms bunting on her "professional" aka beaucratic attitude..and sought to speak to her supervisior. completely rediculous that this fellow and other users of the the napanee services were made to jump thru such hoops! funding is tight for heritage..and ms shelia copps most likely deserves a letter too..to loosen the purse strings. it is sad that someone should travel so far..and be faced with that experience. roz -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. WATTS [SMTP:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 10:15 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC-L] Fw: Census & other geneal. research Greetings All. Strictly speaking the message following does not fall within the parameters of this list, however it serves as an example of what can happen when bureaucracy and regulation are carried to extremes. If Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips has his way, photocopies of anything to do with genealogy or history that mentioned someone's name will be a thing of the past. The message was sent to Muriel Davidson and forwarded to myself. I felt it worthy of passing on to the list. Happy Hunting. Gordon ------------------------------------------ "J. Douglas Leith" wrote: 6 May 2000 Muriel, Thanks much for your attention and replies to my difficulties in contributing my wish that the Census data remain available to the public. It is much appreciated! For what it's worth, I digress below on some events that reinforce my concern about the directions being taken to hinder census access. Please forgive me if it is too long. My wife and I just got back yesterday from a short trip to Adolphustown, Ontario, and the Loyalist Cultural Centre there. Kathy Staples was our B&B host as well as the manager of the Centre and its very good Archives, and we browsed its records and found lots of interesting family-type information. However, we later visited the museum and archives in Napanee, where we found things a bit different. The librarian there (Jennifer Bunting?) was clearly very experienced and knowledgable, and I quickly saw her as an agent of the Government more than a facilitator for searchers (although she was that, too). In order to photocopy anything, one must fill out (including our name, address, and phone number) a tedious one-page request form and give that to her. She then telephones to the receptionist downstairs to say we are cleared to obtain a photocopy. We take the book downstairs to the receptionist, who has to ask us just what to photocopy and then makes them herself and takes payment (at about $1 per page!). We then go back upstairs and resume our research. The procedure for obtaining a copy of an archived photograph is even more difficult: we fill out the one-page request form, give it to the librarian, who sends it somewhere else. At some future date, "somewhere else" is supposed to mail it to us along with a bill for their fees and no doubt also postage. I didn't ask the costs, but I suppose it will be pretty stiff. The librarian spoke several times to other customers about restrictions on giving information to searchers, and appeared to take a hard line on the subject. At one point I was looking for some info on Queen Elizabeth, and was told that British history "is not part of our mandate", which is why they have nothing about England or Great Britain in the library. That seems inappropriate to me. Canada has a long history of association with England, and English history is properly a part of Canadian history. It's like German immigrants who try to erase their German origins from memory. In a way, I cannot fault her for taking a strict government view of her job. She serves as curator and steward of resources, and I suppose her job depends finally on living within the regulations. But it did make doing research in those archives much harder and slower and more expensive. I found myself feeling sorry for her, that she is in a position where she must always keep "privacy regulations" in mind first, and only then think of serving those looking for family information. It reminded me of what life might be like if viewing census records were to become even more restricted than now. I would never complain to Ms. Bunting about her behavior. I imagine that she is forced into it by government regulations, and that she would be much happier with fewer of them. But it was unexpected and disappointing to feel hindered in doing research there. Our inability to make photocopies ourselves, and the time-consuming and expensive procedure for obtaining photocopies if needed, was a bit frustrating! So, after our trip to "Greater Napanee", I'm doubly supportive of your efforts to keep the census available! Sincerely, and good luck, John Douglas Leith 162 Islington Road Auburndale, MA 02466-1012 jdleith@compuserve.com

people need to release policy and regulations are not legislation. i get the feeling that ms. bunting was a stickler for policy. a letter to the board of directors or management of the museum/archives should be issued..sorry, i would have called ms bunting on her "professional" aka beaucratic attitude..and sought to speak to her supervisior. completely rediculous that this fellow and other users of the the napanee services were made to jump thru such hoops! funding is tight for heritage..and ms shelia copps most likely deserves a letter too..to loosen the purse strings. it is sad that someone should travel so far..and be faced with that experience. roz -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. WATTS [SMTP:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 10:15 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC-L] Fw: Census & other geneal. research Greetings All. Strictly speaking the message following does not fall within the parameters of this list, however it serves as an example of what can happen when bureaucracy and regulation are carried to extremes. If Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips has his way, photocopies of anything to do with genealogy or history that mentioned someone's name will be a thing of the past. The message was sent to Muriel Davidson and forwarded to myself. I felt it worthy of passing on to the list. Happy Hunting. Gordon ------------------------------------------ "J. Douglas Leith" wrote: 6 May 2000 Muriel, Thanks much for your attention and replies to my difficulties in contributing my wish that the Census data remain available to the public. It is much appreciated! For what it's worth, I digress below on some events that reinforce my concern about the directions being taken to hinder census access. Please forgive me if it is too long. My wife and I just got back yesterday from a short trip to Adolphustown, Ontario, and the Loyalist Cultural Centre there. Kathy Staples was our B&B host as well as the manager of the Centre and its very good Archives, and we browsed its records and found lots of interesting family-type information. However, we later visited the museum and archives in Napanee, where we found things a bit different. The librarian there (Jennifer Bunting?) was clearly very experienced and knowledgable, and I quickly saw her as an agent of the Government more than a facilitator for searchers (although she was that, too). In order to photocopy anything, one must fill out (including our name, address, and phone number) a tedious one-page request form and give that to her. She then telephones to the receptionist downstairs to say we are cleared to obtain a photocopy. We take the book downstairs to the receptionist, who has to ask us just what to photocopy and then makes them herself and takes payment (at about $1 per page!). We then go back upstairs and resume our research. The procedure for obtaining a copy of an archived photograph is even more difficult: we fill out the one-page request form, give it to the librarian, who sends it somewhere else. At some future date, "somewhere else" is supposed to mail it to us along with a bill for their fees and no doubt also postage. I didn't ask the costs, but I suppose it will be pretty stiff. The librarian spoke several times to other customers about restrictions on giving information to searchers, and appeared to take a hard line on the subject. At one point I was looking for some info on Queen Elizabeth, and was told that British history "is not part of our mandate", which is why they have nothing about England or Great Britain in the library. That seems inappropriate to me. Canada has a long history of association with England, and English history is properly a part of Canadian history. It's like German immigrants who try to erase their German origins from memory. In a way, I cannot fault her for taking a strict government view of her job. She serves as curator and steward of resources, and I suppose her job depends finally on living within the regulations. But it did make doing research in those archives much harder and slower and more expensive. I found myself feeling sorry for her, that she is in a position where she must always keep "privacy regulations" in mind first, and only then think of serving those looking for family information. It reminded me of what life might be like if viewing census records were to become even more restricted than now. I would never complain to Ms. Bunting about her behavior. I imagine that she is forced into it by government regulations, and that she would be much happier with fewer of them. But it was unexpected and disappointing to feel hindered in doing research there. Our inability to make photocopies ourselves, and the time-consuming and expensive procedure for obtaining photocopies if needed, was a bit frustrating! So, after our trip to "Greater Napanee", I'm doubly supportive of your efforts to keep the census available! Sincerely, and good luck, John Douglas Leith 162 Islington Road Auburndale, MA 02466-1012 jdleith@compuserve.com

Greetings All. Strictly speaking the message following does not fall within the parameters of this list, however it serves as an example of what can happen when bureaucracy and regulation are carried to extremes. If Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips has his way, photocopies of anything to do with genealogy or history that mentioned someone's name will be a thing of the past. The message was sent to Muriel Davidson and forwarded to myself. I felt it worthy of passing on to the list. Happy Hunting. Gordon ------------------------------------------ "J. Douglas Leith" wrote: 6 May 2000 Muriel, Thanks much for your attention and replies to my difficulties in contributing my wish that the Census data remain available to the public. It is much appreciated! For what it's worth, I digress below on some events that reinforce my concern about the directions being taken to hinder census access. Please forgive me if it is too long. My wife and I just got back yesterday from a short trip to Adolphustown, Ontario, and the Loyalist Cultural Centre there. Kathy Staples was our B&B host as well as the manager of the Centre and its very good Archives, and we browsed its records and found lots of interesting family-type information. However, we later visited the museum and archives in Napanee, where we found things a bit different. The librarian there (Jennifer Bunting?) was clearly very experienced and knowledgable, and I quickly saw her as an agent of the Government more than a facilitator for searchers (although she was that, too). In order to photocopy anything, one must fill out (including our name, address, and phone number) a tedious one-page request form and give that to her. She then telephones to the receptionist downstairs to say we are cleared to obtain a photocopy. We take the book downstairs to the receptionist, who has to ask us just what to photocopy and then makes them herself and takes payment (at about $1 per page!). We then go back upstairs and resume our research. The procedure for obtaining a copy of an archived photograph is even more difficult: we fill out the one-page request form, give it to the librarian, who sends it somewhere else. At some future date, "somewhere else" is supposed to mail it to us along with a bill for their fees and no doubt also postage. I didn't ask the costs, but I suppose it will be pretty stiff. The librarian spoke several times to other customers about restrictions on giving information to searchers, and appeared to take a hard line on the subject. At one point I was looking for some info on Queen Elizabeth, and was told that British history "is not part of our mandate", which is why they have nothing about England or Great Britain in the library. That seems inappropriate to me. Canada has a long history of association with England, and English history is properly a part of Canadian history. It's like German immigrants who try to erase their German origins from memory. In a way, I cannot fault her for taking a strict government view of her job. She serves as curator and steward of resources, and I suppose her job depends finally on living within the regulations. But it did make doing research in those archives much harder and slower and more expensive. I found myself feeling sorry for her, that she is in a position where she must always keep "privacy regulations" in mind first, and only then think of serving those looking for family information. It reminded me of what life might be like if viewing census records were to become even more restricted than now. I would never complain to Ms. Bunting about her behavior. I imagine that she is forced into it by government regulations, and that she would be much happier with fewer of them. But it was unexpected and disappointing to feel hindered in doing research there. Our inability to make photocopies ourselves, and the time-consuming and expensive procedure for obtaining photocopies if needed, was a bit frustrating! So, after our trip to "Greater Napanee", I'm doubly supportive of your efforts to keep the census available! Sincerely, and good luck, John Douglas Leith 162 Islington Road Auburndale, MA 02466-1012 jdleith@compuserve.com

To all:- Copies of my submission have been sent to the appointed Expert Panel, Hon. John Manley, Dr. Grant Hill, Gerald Keddy, Peter MacKay, John Bryden and to Murray Calder with a note "PLEASE USE". Senator Lorna Milne had her copy delivered by hand -- she feels these reasons are valid and will be using some of OUR material. At present, while waiting for the Expert Panel report, Senator Milne is keeping the subject "on the front burner" -- not boiling, just simmering --so all will know the census matter still exists. NEEDED:- More Genetically Inherited Diseases!!!!! Names will not be published -- to date we have nothing on HEART, EPILEPSY, THYROID, CHRONE'S DISEASE, many, many others. Senator Milne also asked about one disease prevalent among the Acadian people -- to date, I have not had an answer. Looking forward to hearing from the many who are reading these articles. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- I know some of the listers of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list have been saving and printing the various parts of the submission. Margin settings were as follows:- Header and Footer ......... .5 Top and Bottom .............. .5 Each Side ........................... 1.00 Type -- Times New Roman Size -- Generally 10 - 12 pt., with headings larger type. Once this stupid attachment and love scare is over, all sections will be sent as one attachment -- in Word 7.doc There have been a few inquiries. Muriel <davidson3542@home.com>

FABRY’S DISEASE Hi Muriel, One inherited disease of particular interest is Fabry's disease, which has a focus on Tancook Island, Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia, and should be included. The island is a perfect place for familial research due to the constant residency pattern. Fabry’s disease is a disorder with an enzyme missing for processing a particular kind of fat that is on the membranes of cells. I used to talk about this in lectures to medical and graduate students (before I knew that I had ancestors from Tancook Island!). Let me know if you need more information. Lloyd Lloyd A. Horrocks, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus Dept. of Molecular & Cellular Biochemistry, The Ohio State University 1645 Neil Avenue, Columbus, OH 43210 phone: 614-292-2339, fax: 614-292-4118 email: <Horrocks.2@osu.edu * * * * * * (Following is from internet research – type in FABRY on your search engine) Introduction The purpose of this text is to provide patients and their families with information about the symptoms, diagnosis, management, and experimental treatment of Fabry disease. In 1898, two dermatologists, Johann Fabry in Dortmund, Germany and William Anderson in London, England, independently described the first patients with the disorder now known as Fabry disease. Forty years later, it was recognized that the disease resulted from abnormal deposits of a particular fatty substance (known as lobotriaosylceramide) in blood vessel walls throughout the body. In the 1960's, the primary defect was identified as the inherited deficiency of the enzyme, -galactosidase A, which is normally responsible for the breakdown of globotriaosylceramide. The gene for this enzyme was isolated and characterized in 1986 at Mount Sinai, permitting improved diagnosis, especially of female carriers, and the capability to produce large amounts of the normal enzyme for trials of enzyme replacement therapy. What Is the Nature of the Metabolic Defect in Fabry Disease? The body performs thousands of metabolic processes which are necessary for the production of vital compounds and the recycling or removal of others. One such compound called globotriaosylceramide is formed of three sugars and a fatty substance called ceramide, and is found in most cells of the body. Normally globotriaosylceramide is broken down (metabolized) to lactosylceramide by the enzyme -galactosidase A. In patients with Fabry disease, this enzyme does not function properly or is absent, and globotriaosylceramide cannot be broken down in cells, leading to its progressive accumulation. Thus, Fabry disease is often referred to as a "storage disorder" because of the abnormal accumulation of globotriaosylceramide. In patients with Fabry disease, globotriaosylceramide accumulates preferentially in the walls of blood vessels. As the abnormal storage of this fatty compound increases with time, the channels of these vessels become narrowed, leading to decreased blood flow and decreased nourishment of the tissues normally fed by these vessels. This process occurs in all blood vessels throughout the body, but particularly affects small vessels in the skin, kidneys, heart, and nervous system. How Is Fabry Disease Inherited? Fabry disease is an inherited disorder. The defective gene is on the X-chromosome, which is one of the two chromosomes that determine an individual's sex. Females have two X chromosomes, one inherited from each of their parents. Males have one X chromosome inherited from their mothers and one Y chromosome inherited from their fathers. A female Fabry carrier has one X chromosome with a defective Fabry gene and one X chromosome with the normal gene, and thus is protected from the major manifestations of the disease. Males with Fabry disease have one X-chromosome that contains the abnormal gene and thus, show symptoms of the disease. The inheritance pattern of Fabry disease is termed "X-linked recessive inheritance." A female carrier of Fabry disease has a 50% chance of transmitting the defective Fabry gene to her sons who will develop Fabry disease. In addition, she has a 50% chance of transmitting the Fabry gene to her daughters who will be carriers like their mother. It must be emphasized that these risk figures apply to each pregnancy individually, that is, for each male child there is a 50% chance to have the disease, and for each female child there is a 50% risk to be a carrier. If a male with Fabry disease and an unaffected (non-carrier) female have children, all of their daughters will be Fabry carriers and none of their sons will be affected with Fabry disease. Fabry disease occurs in all ethnic groups. It is estimated that one person in 40,000 has the disease. How does Fabry disease affect males? Typically, the disease begins in childhood with episodes of pain and discomfort in the hands and feet (known as acroparesthesias). The painful episodes may be brought on by exercise, fever, fatigue, stress, or change in weather conditions. In addition, young patients develop a spotted, dark red skin rash (known as angiokeratoma) seen most densely from the umbilicus to the knees, a decreased ability to perspire, and a characteristic change on the cornea of the eye that does not affect vision. The disease progresses very slowly and symptoms of kidney, heart and/or neurologic involvement occur between the ages of 30 to 45. In fact, many patients are first diagnosed when the accumulated storage material begins to affect kidney or heart function. Therefore, it is important to annually monitor kidney function by blood and urine tests because kidney disease is a major complication that can occur in affected males. A common heart symptom in Fabry patients is mitral valve prolapse, which is a benign condition that is present in approximately 10% of the normal population. More serious, but rarer, complications of Fabry disease include heart disease and strokes. ======================================= I apologize for the appearance of the above -- it does look better on the researched pages. Of interest was the fact the research study was conducted on Tancook Island. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

DIABETES and PROLONGED Q-T SYNDROME (Name Withheld) To Members of the Expert Panel:- In my family, maternally and paternally we have various genetically inherited diseases. Paternally, we deal with adult onset diabetes and astigmatism. Please be advised I am writing to ask for the Post 1901 censuses to be released for the purpose of genealogical research by individuals and medical professionals. Diabetes has claimed the lives of several members of the --------- family. Most recently, my great uncle in September 1999 and my father in November 1999. My father fought with his diabetes for 30 years. It won, but during the battle, it took his right leg, and part of his left foot. The amputations were something he never recovered from. The family has always been very athletic. Dad's grandfather was the trainer that took the Regina Pats to the World Series in 1926. My father was a serious roller skate dance skater who competed throughout Canada and the USA during the 1940's and 50's. It never ceases to amaze me, when watching ice skate competitions, that my father could do what they did on roller skates. His love for roller skating was passed on to his children. We were put on roller skates as soon as we could walk. I however, was never able to seriously pursue the sport. Due to the genetic astigmatism in my family, I'm legally blind, I'm extremely farsighted, and was cross-eyed (eye operations cosmetically corrected this, but failed to improve my vision). My eyes work independently of each other, impairing my co-ordination and depth perception. My sisters and a paternal cousin also have minor vision problems, as does my son (including one operation to correct the cross-eyedness). It is interesting to note, I'm doing genealogical research on my paternal family. Because of the public access to England's 1881 census, I have found a -------- in a school for the blind. In the 1851 census, I found an unmarried (not widowed) 74 year old female --------- living in a workhouse. The first questions that popped into my mind upon discovering her: "Was she blind/cross-eyed? Why had she never married?" She's listed as a pauper. I know the taunting I took for my eyes and we live in gentler times. She is the only -------- pauper I have found. Everyone else is employed in the family trades or a widowed annuitant. My older sister and younger sister are both diabetic. My younger sister's diabetes is out of control, I haven't picked up this genetic trait from my family. But, I did pick up my maternal line's genetically inherited disease. Both my younger sister and I have it. Our sons are borderline. The defect is called Prolonged Q-T Syndrome. It causes Sudden Arythymic Death. The heart is healthy, but the auto response nervous system is not. Our heart beat has trouble following a rhythm. An ordinary pace maker would correct it. It is one cause of Sudden Infant Death. Thankfully, it is extremely rare. In the USA 25,000 people have been diagnosed with it out of a population of over 250 million. - 14 - ------------------------------ Diabetes and Prolonged Q-T Syndrome - Continued:- Q-T syndrome is silent and deadly in most families afflicted with it. It is usually diagnosed after it has killed within a family. Even then, it is often missed as you can't do an ECG on a dead person. Q-T often strikes apparently healthy children and young adults. Imagine your child dropping dead while running a race in a school sports day, or running home to share a triumph or trauma. Will the excitement of a wedding day or birth lead to a funeral? The startling noise of a thunder clap can kill in my family. We, those who are diagnosed are allowed no physical or emotional exertion. I am not allowed to swim. If I faint in the ocean, I die. I'm not even allowed to drink Neo-Citran for a cold. I have to be careful when I go to the dentist and make sure that certain anaesthetics are not used. There is a large list of prescription drugs I'm not allowed, I have to read over the counter medicines to make sure they won't kill me, or possibly my children. I look and feel healthy, but I'm not. Walking upstairs can exhaust me. I can break into a sweat washing dinner dishes. I was born in 1953. There is not a lot of things I can do, things I would love to experience with my 4 year old daughter. But, you know what I can do is sit at my computer using large fonts so I can see to trace my maternal ancestry. By following bloodlines I will be able to warn them there maybe a silent, swift killer lurking in their branch. I know not to startle them with a blunt revelation, but to ask about fainting/dizzy spells (syncope) and if given a positive response or told of a young person's death to carefully advise my new found relative to go see a cardiologist. There is no cure for Q-T. Its victims survive on pills, and if that fails to stop the syncope the result is an implant of a cardioverter/defibulator. Your very own little personal CPR unit. I'm supposed to have someone who knows CPR with me at all times. I'm being monitored by my cardiologist and I'm on a wait list for the implant. I'm one of the lucky ones. My mother wasn't so lucky. She died at the age of 46 from a heart attack. It is her diagnosis, that may be saving my life. I think she would be happy to know, I'm trying to find her relatives to warn them. The public release of the 1906 and 1911 censuses will help me find them. The family oral history is her father's family has been in Canada for five generations. My grandfather was born there. How many siblings did he have? Where are they? I don't know. The censuses will tell me. Has Q-T been passed into your family? Wouldn't you want the warning? I had time to prepare for my father's death. There was no warning with my mother. Both were traumatic for me. From honest experience, the sudden death was harder to take and adjust to, particularly for my younger sister who was only 17 when Q-T hit our immediate family. With the British Columbia vital statistics, birth, marriage and death online, I have been able to find that my maternal grandfather was married prior to his marriage to my maternal grandmother. I may need to trace half relatives. Surname BROOKS. Did my grandfather have more than one child? The 1911 census will tell me. Please give my family a fighting chance to survive by supporting the public release of the Post 1901 censuses. Thank you for listening. Sincerely NAME WITHHELD - 15 - ===================== I have withheld the name of the submitter -- this courageous person is very involved and is always coming up with new angles and reasons why the census records should be released for our usage. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

The following was posted by John Merz, listowner of the QUEBEC list, with many thanks:- As I warned my subscribers yesterday afternoon about this miserable virus (hopefully in time), the news goes around the world on TV and in Newspaper headlines of the devastating effect this worm has had. We have to thank our Rootsweb organization which has never allowed the use of attachments on our mailing lists, and I know that many of you did not understand the reason. This has kept our mail lists free of virus contamination. Now I hope you do understand!! This is what the Hamilton Spectator has to say this morning: "E-mail attachments: If you've ever received a photo or a spreadsheet or even a word processing file attached to an e-mail, you know attachments are a common way of transferring information these days. My advise to you is to avoid attachments completely. I know that's an inconvenience. But since many viruses replicate themselves by infecting a computer, then send the virus on to everyone in that computer's address book, you can't trust an e-mail attachment from anyone, not even your mom." That tells it, and once again, no discussions regarding viruses over this list, if there is a problem, talk to your computer expert, not to us. Regards, John Merz, listowner (QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com). ========================================== Another problem I have encountered, even on Rootsweb lists, are the little "identity cards" which show up as attachments. I disabled mine, by simply clicking where there was a "tick". Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Hi Gordon. The submission of the CHA, less attachments, has been posted on the CCC-L list previously but it would not hurt to post it again, particularly if your publication includes the attachments which were not sent to me. You might want to break it up into a few postings if the attachments are included. The CHA submission was also published in my Post 1901 Census column in the Global Gazette but I still do not have the attachments to which the submission refers. If you have the attachments I would appreciate your sending them to me. Feel free to post or forward any information relating to Post 1901 Census to the CCC-L mail list. That is the sole reason for the existence of this list - to provide a forum of information for those who are concerned with obtaining continuing release to the Public of Census records. Thank you for your interest and support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net CCC-L listowner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Taylor <dk770taylor2_99@yahoo.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 06 May, 2000 6:21 AM Subject: [CCC-L] Canadian Historical Association The Ottawa Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society has published the submission of the Canadian Historical Association on the census to the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. The article appears in the May-June 2,000 issue of the Ottawa Branch News. The submission is a well argued case for access to the census records. All listers would benefit from reading it. The submission is signed by Irving Abella, President and Bill Waiser, Chair, Archives Committee and is reprinted in the News with permission of the Canadian Historical Association. Can we get permission to circulate the submission through this newsletter. GDT. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

The Ottawa Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society has published the submission of the Canadian Historical Association on the census to the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. The article appears in the May-June 2,000 issue of the Ottawa Branch News. The submission is a well argued case for access to the census records. All listers would benefit from reading it. The submission is signed by Irving Abella, President and Bill Waiser, Chair, Archives Committee and is reprinted in the News with permission of the Canadian Historical Association. Can we get permission to circulate the submission through this newsletter. GDT. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

Greetings All. Debate on Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-15 continued in the Senate on 4 May 2000. The Hon. Joan Fraser spoke in favour of the Bill. While happy to see her support access to Historic Census, she suggests after a longer period than the 92 years currently allowed in the Privacy Act, and I personally would not like to see that happen. I have included in this message the extract from Hansard containing Senator Fraser's speech. If you look carefully you might see a name you recognize. <]:-) Happy Hunting. Gordon ------------------------------------- Statistics Act National Archives of Canada Act Bill to Amend-Second Reading-Debate Continued On the Order: Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Milne, seconded by the Honourable Senator Chalifoux, for the second reading of Bill S-15, to amend the Statistics Act and the National Archives of Canada Act (census records).-(Honourable Senator LeBreton). Hon. Joan Fraser: Honourable senators, I should like to say a few words about Bill S-15, if you will bear with me. I shall bear in mind that the hour is late. I should like first to congratulate Senator Milne for her indefatigable work in this valuable cause. When she began with an inquiry in the last session of Parliament, I think some of us thought that she was talking about something fairly obscure, something that was of interest to a few Canadians, but not really of general importance. Now we know better. This bill addresses what threatens to create a serious gap in Canada's historical record - the policy of Statistics Canada that individual census records from all censuses from 1911 on must remain secret in perpetuity. Statistics Canada believes that this policy is grounded in law and in a promise made by Sir Wilfrid Laurier in 1906. Given that belief, Statistics Canada is correct in refusing to make the individual census returns available to researchers, unless instructed to do otherwise by Parliament. There is room for some argument about whether Statistics Canada's belief is correct. I was particularly interested to read a brief by Gordon A. Watts, of Port Coquitlam, B.C., that was submitted to the Minister of Industry's expert panel on the release of historic census records. Mr. Watts has done a careful search of all the parliamentary debates in 1905 and 1906 relating to statistics and the census. He has been unable to discover any place where Sir Wilfrid in fact made this famous promise to Canadians. Indeed, Mr. Watts says there was no debate at all about privacy, confidentiality or secrecy relating to information regarding identifiable individuals - no debate at all. There was a major debate in 1905 about the new act respecting the census and statistics, but it did not, he says, touch upon secrecy. What actually happened, apparently, was that secrecy was imposed at that time not by legislation or by a prime ministerial commitment to Parliament but by regulation. The regulations were drawn up by the then minister of agriculture, Sydney Fisher and, under the terms of the act, acquired the force of law. As is so often the case now, as then, there was no debate in Parliament about these regulations. In a later revision of the actual legislation in 1918, they were incorporated into the law itself, presumably because by that time they had become accustomed to practice. Indeed, in practice, the Dominion census had been providing confidentiality for individual returns ever since Confederation, which in 1905 was still fairly recent history, well within the lifetime of most parliamentarians. However, the question of perpetuity does not seem to have been addressed, and that is what concerns us today. [Translation] In fact, Mr. Watts suggests that the famous secrecy surrounding individual records may have been imposed almost by accident or, in any case, as a simple corollary to the rule that corporate records had to be protected, because companies obviously did not want their competitors to have access to details about their operations. I cannot say what Minister Fisher had in mind when these regulations were adopted. However, we can easily conclude, upon reading the instructions given to the employees of what was to become Statistics Canada, that the fundamental point was to reassure Canadians that their records could not be used by other government departments. We could not then and we cannot now use these records for income tax purposes, military service, immigration and so on. This is of course essential for any census in a free and democratic society. However, to say that we can never use these records, even generations later, for legitimate research purposes, seems to me to be going rather far, too far. [English] Even if it is true that Parliament originally intended the records to remain secret forever, it is the job of each succeeding Parliament to reassess past policies in light of present needs. Parliament today has the right to change a decision made by Parliament in the past, even a decision made after lengthy and full debate. When the original decision in question was made by simple regulation, not debated at the time, there is even more reason to revisit it now, nearly a century later. Senator Milne's bill offers a neat solution by having Statistics Canada transfer the individual returns to the national archives, which would, 92 years after each census, then make them available for research in proper archival terms. Ninety-two years is the period that was applied for the release of individual returns in all censuses before 1911, so it has the virtue of consistency. As I suggested here last year, however, I think we should perhaps consider lengthening that term slightly, now that so many people are living well into their nineties. I think it would be appropriate to have a 100-year term or perhaps even a little more. Clearly, we do not wish to invade the privacy of persons who are still alive. The basic principle that these records should become available at some point is, in my view, indisputable. They are simply too important as historical records. They are useful for genealogists like Senator Milne, but also for historians, social scientists and even for some physical scientists such as biologists. (1720) The information they provide is literally irreplaceable, not available from other sources, or not available in this detailed, comprehensive form. Other major countries have considered this dilemma, this need to reconcile the need for privacy with the need for good historical records, and they have concluded that, after a suitable period of secrecy, the individual returns should be made available. Australia and the United States, for example, have both reached that conclusion. I believe that Canada should do likewise. The expert panel is expected to report by the end of this month. I hope it will make appropriate recommendations to end this policy of perpetual secrecy, and if it does make those recommendations, perhaps the government will act accordingly and rapidly. If not, however, Senator Milne's bill is here to ensure that the right thing will in fact be done, and I am more than pleased to support it. On motion of Senator Kinsella, for Senator Johnson, debate adjourned.

Hi Mel. Thank you for your message. If you actually got a response from Mr. Phillips himself you have accomplished more than most of us. Messages from myself, Muriel Davidson, and others have resulted in our being passed on to an assistant, Mark Foran, who was very adept at side-stepping specific questions addressed to Mr. Phillips. While the replies to us were also polite they did little to address the concerns stated in our letters. If you get any responses from MPs that actually answer how they would vote on a Bill to release Census records I would be interested in knowing about them. Congratulations on your response from Mr. Phillips, and thanks for your interest and support. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Melville R. Andress <mandress@uniserve.com> To: Gordon A. WATTS <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Thursday, 04 May, 2000 1:23 PM Subject: RE: [CCC-L] List Rules Greetings: My 'snail mail bag' is starting to flow in reply to my 100% mailing to Liberal M.P's. The answering format seems to fall into the category, "Your comments are being forwarded to: (a) your constituency M.P. (b) The Hon. Minister Manley, (c) Dr. Pamela White, Secretariat Expert Panel." I also received a very courteous letter from Bruce Phillips, Privacy Commissioner of Canada along with his submission of Feb 9, 2000 to Expert Panel. In his letter to me, he respectfully disagreed with my statement that by submitting to Statistics Canada proof of Death was sufficient protection of Privacy to the deceased. His Email Address: <bphillips@privcom.gc.ca> Sincerely, Mel R. Andress. -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. WATTS [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: 05/03/ 2000 10:58 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC-L] List Rules Greetings All. On starting the CCC list one year ago I announced that there would be only two rules - no personal queries, and no flames. To date this has worked very well and I have no intention of adding any more rules. Every so often on mail lists , however, there is one lister whose sole purpose of subscribing seems to be to disrupt the list and make irritating postings. We have recently had one such lister. This morning I took the steps to manually unsubscribe this lister who obviously had no desire to be a productive participant, and who in fact sent messages to at least two listers asking them to stop sending him their postings. On receiving the notice that he had been unsubscribed his response, rather than reading and accepting it, hit REPLY, only changing the subject line to "Stop sending me this bull". I will not mention his name at this time as you will all know who he is -- his sole contribution has been to take received postings and return them to the list using REPLY with only the words "Kindest Regards" followed by his name and email address added to the original posting. The purpose was obviously to irritate and annoy. In the past several days this individual was twice sent polite messages informing him how to unsubscribe if that was his desire. I received no responses to these messages but he continued to send his "Kindest Regards" posting replies to the list. Other listers have complained and indicated they would withdraw from the list if these replies were to continue. I therefore manually unsubscribed this individual. I sincerely hope that this action will never again be found necessary. All of us have a common reason for being here -- we desire to see continuing access to historic census records a reasonable period of time after collection. No one is here unless they themselves took the necessary steps to subscribe to the list. No one is forced to remain subscribed against their wishes. Every lister, on subscribing, is sent the information on how to unsubscribe. If that information is lost it is a simple matter to find out how to do it. Enough said. Back to the business for which the list was set up. Your comments and questions relating to Post 1901 Census issues are welcome. Let us hear from you. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

CLINICAL DEPRESSION Hi Muriel, My name is Pat ------, I live in Scotland and I suffer from inherited clinical depression. Vicky Jackson forwarded your e-mail to me as she knows about my struggle with this condition. Luckily, I now have a doctor who understands what is going on inside my head and helps me through. Depression exhausts me and leaves me like a zombie - I am unable to sleep or function. However, I now know how to spot it before it really floors me and I can take some preventative action. The first thing I do is clean and tidy the house. That may seem a little strange but I get very self -critical when depressed so I do what I can to eliminate the triggers. Then I buy some novels so that when I can't sleep, I have something new and interesting to read. After that I fill up the fridge and the freezer with tasty convenience foods because I know I won't cook if things get bad and I need good fuel to get this machine (my body and mind) working well again. Sometimes after all that, the depression fails to take hold and I thank God. More often than not, I do sink into that sticky black pit and then at least I can hibernate in some comfort until it has passed. Thankfully, it has been some weeks now since I have had a down spell. I know it will return but I also know that it will pass and that keeps me going through the bad times. I am blessed with great friends and two wonderful children who carry me through. Without them, I would find it much harder to bear. I get very annoyed with people who don't understand depression and ask me what I have to be depressed about. Depression is not caused by external forces, it is in my genetic make-up. That doesn't mean that I cannot do anything about the symptoms of depression but I can't change the underlying condition. Thank you for sharing your experience with me. This can be a very lonely condition and, in my case, some of that loneliness is self inflicted because I avoid company when I am down. Keep well and busy. Know that you have friends all over the world with the same problem and we are all fighting to overcome it in our own way. With kind regards from a fellow depression fighter Pat. Pat ------ Scotland ====================== The above writer and submitter describes the everyday life of one suffering from clinical depression – we fight in our own ways but not always understood. - Muriel M. Davidson - 11 - ----------------------------- AVAILABLE MEDICAL RECORDS By Larry ------ Your description of the way you live with Clinical Depression was very moving. My wife, Doreen, is one of the people that was at the door of a full breakdown before a doctor realized what was happening. Early retirement as well as medication has done a lot to help -- but crowds are still a very difficult situation. Availability of historical medical records and the genealogical records that would be needed to tie the family together would have, in all likelihood, either prevented the severity of this case or at least forewarned us of the possibility of that type of sickness. Along with that we now know that in my side of the family we go back to my father and ahead to my grandchildren with diabetes. Earlier family members died early, such as my grandfather who we suspect had the dreaded disease. Our latest patient is my granddaughter who was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes at the age of three. Keep smiling – we are behind you! Larry ------ Calgary AB CA * * * * * * * COMMENT RE APPROACH Dear Muriel, I have no criticisms to make about your essay on depression, but I do have to say that I was most moved by it. It was a very brave thing to write this, and I think that many people may benefit from reading it. I was especially delighted to read your counterblast to the prevalent dominant approach to treatment with nothing but chemicals. Power to you, Bob Calgary, AB - 12 - ------------------------------ DEPRESSION (Name Withheld) Muriel - your message was a powerful one.. As a fellow depression sufferer, although one who is helped by the new serotonin reuptake inhibitors, I am beginning to understand the genetic factors behind depression. I was recently surprised to learn that my grandmother's sister most likely committed suicide after the death of her daughter in a fire. It's impossible to know if that's where the gene that keeps my serotonin level at less than optimum levels was inherited, but it's a clue. My eldest daughter has the same condition and is currently taking Zoloft while I take Paxil. The difference these medications make is nothing short of magic even at low dosages. But finding even circumstantial evidence of serious depression in my family history helps us to understand that this isn't a 'character problem' as it was depicted for years, but an actual chemical imbalance that is inherited and is probably the reason that I had suicidal thoughts as young as 8 years old. Thank goodness, those days are behind me but I lived with them for over 40 years. NAME WITHHELD * * * * * * [The following is an inheritable gene - not a disease] STRABISMUS By Jack Hebert Hello Muriel: My name is Jack Hebert. The Hebert family does not have congenital disease, but does have a congenital defect - strabismus, or crooked eye. It usually is the left eye, but occasionally it is of the wandering variety, in other words it alternates from one eye to the other. My youngest sister and I have it, but my oldest sister and my brother do not. I know it has occurred in past generations, but I have not done any investigations in that area. Strabismus does affect the sight, as the inturned eye tries to compensate for the defect so that you don't see double. If the child that is born with it is operated upon prior to age 3 the sight can be saved. If not operated on (to straighten the eye) the retina becomes dead where the vision from the good eye overpowers the inturned eye. In my sister's case, because it was alternating, the sight was not affected - she was operated on at about age 13 or 14, and her eyesight is normal. Jack Hebert, from the sunny Peace River area of Beautiful British Columbia. <coraliehebert@hotmail.com> - 13 -

Greetings All. On starting the CCC list one year ago I announced that there would be only two rules - no personal queries, and no flames. To date this has worked very well and I have no intention of adding any more rules. Every so often on mail lists , however, there is one lister whose sole purpose of subscribing seems to be to disrupt the list and make irritating postings. We have recently had one such lister. This morning I took the steps to manually unsubscribe this lister who obviously had no desire to be a productive participant, and who in fact sent messages to at least two listers asking them to stop sending him their postings. On receiving the notice that he had been unsubscribed his response, rather than reading and accepting it, hit REPLY, only changing the subject line to "Stop sending me this bull". I will not mention his name at this time as you will all know who he is -- his sole contribution has been to take received postings and return them to the list using REPLY with only the words "Kindest Regards" followed by his name and email address added to the original posting. The purpose was obviously to irritate and annoy. In the past several days this individual was twice sent polite messages informing him how to unsubscribe if that was his desire. I received no responses to these messages but he continued to send his "Kindest Regards" posting replies to the list. Other listers have complained and indicated they would withdraw from the list if these replies were to continue. I therefore manually unsubscribed this individual. I sincerely hope that this action will never again be found necessary. All of us have a common reason for being here -- we desire to see continuing access to historic census records a reasonable period of time after collection. No one is here unless they themselves took the necessary steps to subscribe to the list. No one is forced to remain subscribed against their wishes. Every lister, on subscribing, is sent the information on how to unsubscribe. If that information is lost it is a simple matter to find out how to do it. Enough said. Back to the business for which the list was set up. Your comments and questions relating to Post 1901 Census issues are welcome. Let us hear from you. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

The following is a note of appreciation with a good suggestion. We need a French language short message that could be used in not only Quebec, but other French-language parts of Canada. Hopefully we will receive one with English translation, for people like me who have forgotten the French verbs, etc. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ======================================================= I appreciate all you and Gordon Watts have done to support and document reasons the census records should be released. I do think it would enhance our campaign to MP's if someone could draft a short French or bilingual message that we could send to the francophone MPs in Quebec and New Brunswick. There are a lot of these members and we need them as supporters if the issue comes to a vote in the House of Commons. As a resident of Ottawa I know the importance of bilingualism and we could lose the support of francophone MPs if we send them English-only letters. Are there any genealogists in Quebec who could help by giving us a French message? Best wishes Ruth Dibbs. -------------------------------------------- Jeannine -- Would you draft a message in both languages with emphasis on the French-language people? We want to reach everyone. Muriel

Kindest Regards, Wayne Gearey geareyw@cadvision.com ----- Original Message ----- From: larc <larc@buckeye-express.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [CCC-L] Genetically Inherited Diseases - Depression - Part 1 > Hi list, > I cannot sit lurking on this one and must voice my opinion. > How true to life and facts the depression article is! > I too am a depression sufferer as well as Fibromyalgia. > Many other forms of illnesses accompany depression and go > undetected because of the depression. They mostly get > "blamed" on the depression and leave it at that. > My mother, father and two sisters have all suffered their > depressions over the years. We have also suffered the > migraines that go with depression. > Up until just over a year ago, I didn't realize it was a > genetically inherited illness. With the help of a nervous > breakdown, my wonderful doctor and the internet, I have read > everything I can on this and try to inform others that it is > okay to have it! > When I had my breakdown, my daughter's father asked "What do > I tell people?" I answered with "She had a breakdown". I > was not ashamed and totally understood what was happening to > me. > Too many out there still believe it is a "crazy" thing > though and do not recognize it as it was so well laid out by > Muriel. > Thanks again Muriel for the wonderful interesting article of > yours. Most inspiring! > Lori-Ann > > > >

I have been searching my genealogy for quite some time now and wanted to state to the list how very fustrating this has become for the years that they will not release the census information. Although Newfoundland and it's wonderful volunteers and contributors have managed to transcribe a huge amount of data, it is the records 1900+ that will show me what I am looking for! My Grandfather's parish records were all burned in a church fire. The only way to trace his birth and the death of his mother is through more information being released for those of us to contribute to online sites. Although many have been able to provide me with information beyond my grandfather, it is his immediate family and the records that will show what exact years (as close as it can get) they were born, a rough idea of when my greatgrandmother died and a better time frame of what years I should be researching closer to. Gord, Muriel and others who speak for us, thank you so much and continue those hard efforts and posting the interesting reading. Lori-Ann Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A. Formerly Mississauga, Ontario

Hi list, I cannot sit lurking on this one and must voice my opinion. How true to life and facts the depression article is! I too am a depression sufferer as well as Fibromyalgia. Many other forms of illnesses accompany depression and go undetected because of the depression. They mostly get "blamed" on the depression and leave it at that. My mother, father and two sisters have all suffered their depressions over the years. We have also suffered the migraines that go with depression. Up until just over a year ago, I didn't realize it was a genetically inherited illness. With the help of a nervous breakdown, my wonderful doctor and the internet, I have read everything I can on this and try to inform others that it is okay to have it! When I had my breakdown, my daughter's father asked "What do I tell people?" I answered with "She had a breakdown". I was not ashamed and totally understood what was happening to me. Too many out there still believe it is a "crazy" thing though and do not recognize it as it was so well laid out by Muriel. Thanks again Muriel for the wonderful interesting article of yours. Most inspiring! Lori-Ann

DEPRESSION By Muriel M. Davidson The weather is very damp and the sky is without a hint of sun! How often have we remarked or heard others say the "day is depressing!" However, as soon as the sun warms the earth, which lightens our moods, the depressive feeling disappears. Many are not so fortunate as he or she suffers from a disease caused by a possibly inherited gene, not the weather. I am referring to an honest-to-goodness illness -- clinical depression. This disease, unrecognized by many, is probably the biggest single medical cause behind most human sufferings and illnesses. This condition strikes as many as one of every five persons. Very often many who suffer from this common malady are undiagnosed. The victims of this genetically inherited disease are generally regarded as strange, weird, often unable to associate with others, which compounds and increases the problem. Personally I am one of the fortunate ones with diagnosis years ago. My two sons have also been diagnosed, but my daughter did not inherit this gene, nor did her children. There have been other family members known from previous generations. Sufferers of depression are all around us -- the homeless, the alcoholic, those trying to survive within the confines of society. The ailment has no class distinction, is a genetically inheritable disease -- very often family doctors prescribe sedating medication. There is still an age-old fear of psychiatrists -- often the patient is simply not referred. Close relatives refuse to accept the family member is a victim of an ancient gene, therefore not realizing the psychological condition is treatable not only by suitable medication, but mainly family understanding. Many with clinical depression, unlike the gloomy day depressives, often resort to alcohol, drugs, resorting to crime so more expensive drugs can be obtained. This is the way of dealing with how he or she feels. Many of the young people who commit suicide or fill our jails and prisons are victims of this age-old mood inhibitor. Although many have a high degree of intelligence, due to depression, they are unable to make friends, become loners and eventually many do commit suicide. - 8 - ----------------------------- Depression - Continued: The gene that causes clinical depression dates back to the cave age, is ancient and is not a mutant gene. Depressed brains do not function properly, very often there is a chemical imbalance. The inability to function properly is similar to brain wires being cut -- preventing the transmission of emotions and rational thoughts. The victims feel empty, unable to think, often unable to remain employed. An example of non-functioning brain wires is the inability to send an internet message when the server is unoperational. Many family researchers have studied Canadian census records of 1871, 1881, 1891and 1901 -- we are grateful for some of the personal questions asked by enumerators when it seems a family member "disappeared" -- yet still living. Working with church records, we find there generally is NO recorded trace of the relative’s disappearance among our census records. Years ago, in my family, as in many other families, family members were admitted to the "county home" or "poor farm". with personal family history denoting a mental disorder. This disorder was possibly a form of depression -- unrecognized years ago. The family members disappeared without a trace because census records WERE NOT taken of institutional residents. Although alive, they were not included, unless residing in a community and he or she were listed as having a mental disability. We are thankful these intrusive questions were asked by the enumerators -- there is acceptance in knowing. My family members know I suffer from depression, have refused medication, but prefer my own "treatment" -- keep busy and active. I have accepted depression, part of the healing process -- often reading or crocheting is better than routine household chores. Part of my personal treatment is a great deal of "people contact":- 1. Coordinator of 150 knitters for Brampton Memorial Hospital maternity ward, a volunteer position -- my daughter is my "boss". 2. Eight family history books researched, printed and filed at National Archives. 3. Public relations for my Rebekah lodge, IOOF. 4. Recently serving as liaison for 31 local Brampton service clubs with the local city newspaper, where I had been women’s editor. This is a challenge -- a first!! 5. An active member of the internet-based Canadian Census Release Committee. - 9 - ------------------------- Depression - Continued:- My two sons combat their depressive problems differently. The oldest son is in sales and administration at a large motorcycle shop, races motorcycles and gets rid of any nagging problems at the gym. The youngest son, a long-distance truck driver, has a chemical imbalance. He combats SADD by turning on lights to counteract lack of sun and Vitamin D, plus medication. In summary, many who suffer from depression could live a normal community life through acceptance. People need to be accepted for "what they can do" -- not "what they have". This is one strong way of living with a disease that dates back to the early days of mankind. As an active member of the internet-based Canadian Census Release Campaign, it is out sincere hope the Expert Panel will report favorably to have the 1911 and future Canadian census records made available for research by families faced with Genetically Inheritable Diseases. Many are anxiously awaiting your report. Thank you for serving on this appointed committee. Sincerely, Muriel M. Davidson 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 <davidson3542@home.com> Depression - Continued:- The young people of today are intelligent, want to know family answers. Many denominational avenues of research are unavailable. It is for this reason the most accurate of all documents, our Canadian census records, must be released and made available to all. It is only through usage of the Post-1901 census records, young researchers will learn of any possibly inherited mental illness, to include depression. They will then be able to deal with it and prepared, so correct diagnosis may be made by our modern medical system.

Kindest Regards, Wayne Gearey geareyw@cadvision.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne N. Gearey <geareyw@cadvision.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: Fw: [CCC-L] Genetically Inherited Diseases - Depression - Part 1 > > Kindest Regards, > Wayne Gearey > geareyw@cadvision.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wayne N. Gearey <geareyw@cadvision.com> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:14 PM > Subject: Fw: [CCC-L] Genetically Inherited Diseases - Depression - Part 1 > > > > > > Kindest Regards, > > Wayne Gearey > > geareyw@cadvision.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:08 AM > > Subject: [CCC-L] Genetically Inherited Diseases - Depression - Part 1 > > > > > > > DEPRESSION > > > > > > By Muriel M. Davidson > > > > > > The weather is very damp and the sky is without a hint of sun! > > > How often have we remarked or heard others say the "day is depressing!" > > > However, as soon as the sun warms the earth, which lightens our moods, > > > the depressive feeling disappears. Many are not so fortunate as he or > > > she > > > suffers from a disease caused by a possibly inherited gene, not the > > > weather. > > > I am referring to an honest-to-goodness illness -- clinical > > > depression. > > > This disease, unrecognized by many, is probably the biggest single > > > medical cause behind most human sufferings and illnesses. This > > > condition > > > strikes as many as one of every five persons. Very often many who > > > suffer > > > from this common malady are undiagnosed. The victims of this > > > genetically inherited disease are generally regarded as strange, > > > weird, > > > often unable to associate with others, which compounds and increases > > > the problem. > > > Personally I am one of the fortunate ones with diagnosis years > > > ago. > > > My two sons have also been diagnosed, but my daughter did not inherit > > > this gene, nor did her children. There have been other family members > > > known from previous generations. > > > Sufferers of depression are all around us -- the homeless, the > > > alcoholic, > > > those trying to survive within the confines of society. The ailment has > > > no > > > class distinction, is a genetically inheritable disease -- very often > > > family > > > doctors prescribe sedating medication. > > > There is still an age-old fear of psychiatrists -- often the > > > patient is > > > simply not referred. Close relatives refuse to accept the family member > > > is a victim of an ancient gene, therefore not realizing the > > > psychological > > > condition is treatable not only by suitable medication, but mainly > > > family understanding. > > > Many with clinical depression, unlike the gloomy day > > > depressives, > > > often resort to alcohol, drugs, resorting to crime so more expensive > > > drugs can be obtained. This is the way of dealing with how he or she > > > feels. > > > Many of the young people who commit suicide or fill our jails and > > > prisons are victims of this age-old mood inhibitor. Although many > > > have a high degree of intelligence, due to depression, they are > > > unable to make friends, become loners and eventually many do > > > commit suicide. > > > - 8 - > > > ----------------------------- > > > Depression - Continued: > > > > > > The gene that causes clinical depression dates back to the cave > > > age, is ancient and is not a mutant gene. Depressed brains do not > > > function properly, very often there is a chemical imbalance. The > > > inability to function properly is similar to brain wires being cut -- > > > preventing the transmission of emotions and rational thoughts. > > > The victims feel empty, unable to think, often unable to remain > > > employed. An example of non-functioning brain wires is the inability > > > to send an internet message when the server is unoperational. > > > Many family researchers have studied Canadian census records > > > of 1871, 1881, 1891and 1901 -- we are grateful for some of the > > > personal questions asked by enumerators when it seems a family > > > member "disappeared" -- yet still living. Working with church records, > > > we find there generally is NO recorded trace of the relative's > > > disappearance among our census records. > > > Years ago, in my family, as in many other families, family members > > > were admitted to the "county home" or "poor farm". with personal > > > family history denoting a mental disorder. This disorder was possibly > > > a form of depression -- unrecognized years ago. > > > The family members disappeared without a trace because > > > census records WERE NOT taken of institutional residents. Although > > > alive, they were not included, unless residing in a community and > > > he or she were listed as having a mental disability. We are thankful > > > these intrusive questions were asked by the enumerators -- there is > > > acceptance in knowing. > > > My family members know I suffer from depression, have refused > > > medication, but prefer my own "treatment" -- keep busy and active. > > > I have accepted depression, part of the healing process -- often > > > reading or crocheting is better than routine household chores. > > > Part of my personal treatment is a great deal of "people contact":- > > > > > > 1. Coordinator of 150 knitters for Brampton Memorial Hospital > > > maternity ward, a volunteer position -- my daughter is my "boss". > > > 2. Eight family history books researched, printed and filed at National > > > Archives. > > > 3. Public relations for my Rebekah lodge, IOOF. > > > 4. Recently serving as liaison for 31 local Brampton service clubs > > > with the local city newspaper, where I had been women's editor. > > > This is a challenge -- a first!! > > > 5. An active member of the internet-based Canadian Census > > > Release Committee. > > > - 9 - > > > ------------------------- > > > Depression - Continued:- > > > > > > My two sons combat their depressive problems differently. > > > The oldest son is in sales and administration at a large motorcycle > > > shop, races motorcycles and gets rid of any nagging problems > > > at the gym. > > > The youngest son, a long-distance truck driver, has a chemical > > > imbalance. He combats SADD by turning on lights to counteract > > > lack of sun and Vitamin D, plus medication. > > > In summary, many who suffer from depression could live a > > > normal community life through acceptance. People need to be > > > accepted for "what they can do" -- not "what they have". This is > > > one strong way of living with a disease that dates back to the > > > early days of mankind. > > > As an active member of the internet-based Canadian Census > > > Release Campaign, it is out sincere hope the Expert Panel will > > > report favorably to have the 1911 and future Canadian census > > > records made available for research by families faced with > > > Genetically Inheritable Diseases. Many are anxiously awaiting > > > your report. > > > Thank you for serving on this appointed committee. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Muriel M. Davidson > > > 25 Crestview Avenue > > > Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 > > > <davidson3542@home.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Depression - Continued:- > > > > > > The young people of today are intelligent, want to know family answers. > > > Many > > > denominational avenues of research are unavailable. It is for this > > > reason the most accurate > > > of all documents, our Canadian census records, must be released and made > > > available to all. > > > It is only through usage of the Post-1901 census records, young > > > researchers will > > > learn of any possibly inherited mental illness, to include depression. > > > They will then be able > > > to deal with it and prepared, so correct diagnosis may be made by our > > > modern medical > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >