To all:- How many communities can top that of POWELL RIVER, British Columbia -- the last one arrived today!!!! Senator Lorna Milne has been keeping the census pot on the back burner, waiting for the report of the Expert Panel. However, she does remind all that people are still petitioning -- with a few more to be added:- CANADIAN:- Margaret A. Zohner -- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Shirley Lee --------- Powell River, BC .... 58 signatures Katherine Boese ----- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Pamela Voss --------- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Barbara Logan ------- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Mel Andress --------- Abbotsford, BC ...... 15 signatures Janaya Hunka -------- Vancouver, BC ...... 7 signatures Laura VanLoon ------- Saskatoon, SK ...... 8 signatures R. E. Lowry -------- Lunenburg/Halifax, NS 5 signatures Total - Canadian - was 192 signatures -- NOW 225!!!!! Non-Canadian:- Timothy J. Syzek ---- Baltimore, MD ..... 1 signature Elizabeth Brackett - Blaine, WA ........ 2 signatures John D. Leith ----- Auburndale, MA ... 1 signature Nancy L. Neylon ----- Gays Mills, WI ...... 1 signature Total - Non-Canadian -- 5 Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> KEEP 'EM COMING --- British Columbia wins the petition jackpot this time!!! -- Many thanks!

Many thanks to JoAnne <jdymond1@home.com> Many schools seem to be teaching this subject in school -- the children find it more fascinating to learn about "how they became part of a family" than learning about people of long ago. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> There is an interesting article about children in schools learning about their roots in the Hamilton Spectator today. I hope the government takes note that not only genealogists are interested in their families ancestal history in Canada ~ URL below http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/feature_column/229937.html

There are four pages of names published in the Spring, 2000 issue of The Nova Scotia Genealogist. The children arrived from Liverpool, England in Halifax on 28 May 1908 aboard the Carthaginian. Thanks to Jerry Munro of New Glasgow for providing date of arrival. Ref: Halifax Officer of Customs, NAC microfilm #T-503 Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== SURNAME GIVEN NAME AGE Andrews William 10 Andrews Bertram 15 Berman Leonard 14 Biddle Leonard 8 Billingham William 12 Bird Samuel G. 8 Blundell Harry 11 Blundell Owen 11 Bradbury John W. 10 Bright Alice 12 Bright Clara J. 12 Butler May 16 Butler Sarah 12 [The BUTLER children were destined to London, Ontario] More another time -- could be missing family members!

Bruce Phillips has launched his biggest public campaign to date against release of historical census records in his 1999/2000 Annual Report. We can expect him to launch a media blitz so listmembers might watch out for his appearences in the media. The census records issue is prominently featured in the press release he issued on Monday and is covered in detail in the Annual Report. I can't find much in today's newspapers although the local Vancouver radio stations are reporting his "government dossiers" story at the top of their newscasts. The press release is at: http://www.privcom.gc.ca/english/02_05_b_000516_e.htm The paragraph on census release reads: "Other urgent issues highlighted in the report include:" "Historical Census Records-Commenting on proposals to authorize retroactively the release of 1906 and 1911 census records despite previous promises of confidentiality, Phillips urges that such a measure " be approached with great caution, lest the result diminish confidence in government promises-not just in specific agencies, but also in government that professes to rule with the consent of the governed." In the summary of his comments before the expert panel that will make recommendations to the Minister of Industry on this matter, the Commissioner argues that privacy is not just an individual right but a public right; a right that should not be weakened without a broad public debate (pp. 52-56)." The full 1999/2000 Annual Report and its lengthy comment on census records is on the web at: http://www.privcom.gc.ca/english/02_04_08_e.htm Don Nisbet < dnisbet@vcn.bc.ca

To all:- Senator Lorna Milne has been keeping the census pot on the back burner, waiting for the report of the Expert Panel. However, she does remind all that people are still petitioning -- with a few more to be added:- CANADIAN:- Margaret A. Zohner -- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Shirley Lee --------- Powell River, BC .... 58 signatures Katherine Boese ----- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Pamela Voss --------- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Mel Andress --------- Abbotsford, BC ...... 15 signatures Janaya Hunka -------- Vancouver, BC ...... 7 signatures Laura VanLoon ------- Saskatoon, SK ...... 8 signatures R. E. Lowry -------- Lunenburg/Halifax, NS 5 signatures Total - Canadian - 192 signatures Non-Canadian:- Timothy J. Syzek ---- Baltimore, MD ..... 1 signature Elizabeth Brackett - Blaine, WA ........ 2 signatures John D. Leith ----- Auburndale, MA ... 1 signature Nancy L. Neylon ----- Gays Mills, WI ...... 1 signature Total - Non-Canadian -- 5 Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> KEEP 'EM COMING --- British Columbia wins the petition jackpot this time!!! -- Many thanks!

To all:- As all know, I love to read -- this publication for a mere $20.00 per year, arrived today, filled with many, many articles. RECAP OF POST 1901 CENSUS PROBLEM by Gordon A. Watts gave an overview of the problem; No time limitations; Distrust of government reason for concern; No complaints received; Our efforts have made a difference; Private Member's Bill; Expert Committee appointed; Private Senator's Bill; Our efforts must continue; Addresses; Petitions at <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm> Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS on <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html> The GANS Submission to the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records by Karen McKay, President The full text of the GANS submission may be found on their web site: <http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/GANS/statscan.html> [Sections will be printed in other postings] The Intercolonial Club of Boston has nine pages of members -- great!! Passenger Lists, 1881-1919, by Leland Harvie, NSG Editor Young Immigrants from Middlemore Children's Home, arrived from Liverpool, England, at halifax on 28 May 1908 aboard the Carthaginian. The children were born in England, destined for Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, except for some for London, Ontario -- three pages. By looking at the above -- this one book alone is worth the $20.00. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

In the interests of fairness I would like to report that I received a letter from the Privacy Commissioner commenting on my letter to the Expert panel, which I had copied to him. . His letter is over two pages long and quotes and rebuts the arguments I tried to establish. As I am not a typist I'll just quote the final paragraphs. "I hold historical and genealogical research in high regard, as I do all intellectual endeavour. I do not accept, however, that intellectual endeavour exists in an civic or ethical vacuum. And I do not accept that historians and genealogists have a right to personal information, a right that trumps the rights of the people whose information it is. Once again, I thank you for the opportunity to comment on your submission. Bruce Phillips" As you can see we haven't persuaded each other. Ruth Dibbs

The following striking and outstanding declaration is presented by Wayne Cook at <http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml> THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts has been mentioned before, but now we suggest you read MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling. Happy reading~ Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> HAS CANADA LOST ITS CENSUS It is time to settle this now! F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, "The test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in one's mind at the same time". YOU BE THE JUDGE The Wrong Road Bruce Phillips, the Privacy Commissioner would like to close the barn door on genealogical and historical research. The Honourable Senator Lowell Murray stands up in the Senate and says "To Hell with Historians". The Right Road Gordon Watts has spent hundreds of hours doing research to complete his very impressive submission to the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. To read Gordon's very impressive submission please CLICK HERE. Many thanks to Gordon Watts for allowing me to post the submission at my site. "Permission to forward without notification is granted". Lois Sparling is a Barrister & Solicitor in Alberta, Canada. Please read her MEMORANDUM OF LAW and why she thinks: In her opinion, an application in the Federal Court for a writ of mandamus compelling the National Archivist to release the individual returns from the 1906 census of the western provinces would have a good chance of success.

Hi Joan:- As this seems to be a disease with widespread connections, I am forwarding it to the CANADA-CENSUS list, also Senator Lorna Milne -- who likes this type of "ammunition" in her fight to get the census records released. Many thanks -- it is notes and memos like this that help others. Also, as you mentioned, some doctors might not recognize it. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== Joan at Tna3@aol.com wrote: > Hi Muriel, <http://www.thalassemia.com/message.shtml> > > Thanks for the new URL, it worked just fine!! I haven't had a chance to > read it all yet, but it's great to be able to get more info on this disease!! > > As I said, my aunt had thalassemia, and I can attest to the fact that it is > indeed an "ugly" disease! Growing up, I was always told that "Coolie's > anemia", which is what everyone in my family called the disease (WHY, I have no > idea!!!) was not strictly an Italian disorder, but rather a disease that > affects people exclusively of Mediterranean heritage, and it was always > explained to me that Coolie's anemia was to Mediterraneans what Sickle Cell is > to Africans. > I was never tested for the trait when I was younger, but I KNEW that I had > it because all of the kids in my generation who did have the trait were all > anemic, and iron supplements did not help, as was the case with me. > It wasn't until I got pregnant and was prescribed prenatal iron pills that > I was finally tested for the trait. I told my doctor that I wouldn't take > the iron pills because historically, I get none of the benefits from them, > but all of the side affects. My OBGYN had never heard of Thalassemia, so he > sent me to Buffalo Children's Hospital's genetic research lab, where I was > conclusively diagnosed with the trait. > It was at that time that I was told that my husband, who is 100% German, > also had to be tested because I had tested positive. I questioned this, > stating his heritage, and was told that it is rather rare, but that it is > possible for non-Mediterranean people to carry this trait. I've wondered > about this for seven years now, because my father's family were immigrants, > and were very clear about this disease being restricted to people from the > Mediterranean. This is ONLY my opinion, but I believe that thalassemia IS a > Mediterranean disease, and my husband was tested STRICTLY in case his > heritage turned out to be something other than what he was raised to believe. > > I'm sure that the website you sent will probably have LOADS more info than > I do, but if you have any questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them!!! > Did your e-mail imply that you have recently found out that you do have the > trait for thalassemia....or perhaps that the trait is present in your family??? > I do SO wish that some of these so called "private" files would be made > public record, for reasons JUST like this!!!! Did you know that if I were to > keep my trait a secret, and my children test negative for the trait, that > it's still conceivable that my grandchild, who could easily by no more than > an eighth Mediterranean, could marry someone who was also only an eighth > Mediterranean, and they could have children with this terrible disease > without having ANY IDEA that it was even possible?!!!! > I'm 39 years old, and it wasn't until I started researching my family history > that I found out that I am an eighth Scottish, so how easy could it be for MY > grand and great-grandchildren to never know about their Italian heritage, and > the deadly disease that COULD go along with that heritage!! > The way it works is that since I have the trait, my kids have a 50% chance > of having the trait; if they DON'T have the trait, their kids still have a > 25% chance of having the trait. If ONE of my grandchildren DO have the > trait, then their children, my GREAT-grandchildren, go back up to that 50% > chance of having the trait and possibly having a child with thalassemia!! > And the numbers continue with that same pattern, so if the trait continues to > pop up, several generations removed from me...and Italy, could easily pass on > this disease!! Scary, huh?!!!!! > Again, THANKS for the info!! > Joan ============== Joan -- I am glad I do not have the thalassemia trait -- only anemia from chemotherapy. My reason for the diseases was (1) A submission to the Expert Panel to hopefully get census records released, and (2) Assist others who have this trait -- in turn they help each other. - Muriel

This genetic disease was mentioned in a memo -- to be posted later -- about one family's genetic problems and the outcome. The search site also provides information in Italian language. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ============================================ Correct URL <http://www.thalassemia.com/message.shtml> Welcome to the website of the Northern California Comprehensive Thalassemia Center at Children's Hospital Oakland. We have been working hard for the last year to bring comprehensive thalassemia information to remote patients, providers, students and the general public that is simple to navigate through and easy to digest. We have modelled the site after our own care program, involving all aspects of care,from medical treatment to psychosocial issues, home care to patient/peer support. Thalassemia is the most common inherited single gene disorder in the world. Scientists and public health officials predict that with global improvements in childhood disease prevention and treatment, and with targeted programs to prevent mortality from malnutrition, thalassemia will become a worldwide issue in the next century. It is our hope that by providing electronic education about the disease, we can raise awareness, encourage people to get tested for trait, and spread knowledge about comprehensive treatment to the global community. Thalassemia is a multi-system, lifelong disease to treat, so there is a lot to know about it. If you have never encountered thalassemia before, try browsing through the Frequently Asked Questions, reading the Medical Definition of Thalassemia, or taking informative journey through our Genetics section, which has thorough explanation of thalassemia. Also, please check out our Patient Forum section for unique patients' perspectives on thalassemia, as well as art and poetry. If you're not a stranger to thalassemia and are looking for specific information, read the Table of Contents to see what's available in this site. You can also click on each section to view its contents. Or simply roll your mouse over the navigation image on the top of this page if you are using Internet Explorer 4.0 or Netscape 3.0 or higher. Each section has a number of sub-sections categorized to make the task of searching a little easier. You can also search the site for specific subjects using our internal search engine. Finally, don't forget to check our News and Updates periodically for new findings related to thalassemia. Thank you for visiting our site. Please keep returning for updates and new articles! Elliott Vichinsky, MD

Sorry about a repeat -- this looks better!! To all:- Senator Lorna Milne has been keeping the census pot on the back burner, waiting for the report of the Expert Panel. However, she does remind all that people are still petitioning -- with a few more to be added:- CANADIAN:- Margaret A. Zohner -- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Shirley Lee --------- Powell River, BC .... 58 signatures Katherine Boese ----- Powell River, BC .... 33 signatures Mel Andress --------- Abbotsford, BC ...... 15 signatures Janaya Hunka -------- Vancouver, BC ...... 7 signatures Laura VanLoon ------- Saskatoon, SK ...... 8 signatures R. E. Lowry -------- Lunenburg/Halifax, NS 5 signatures Total - Canadian - 159 signatures Non-Canadian:- Timothy J. Syzek ---- Baltimore, MD ..... 1 signature Elizabeth Brackett - Blaine, WA ........ 2 signatures John D. Leith ----- Auburndale, MA ... 1 signature Total - Non-Canadian -- 4 Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> KEEP 'EM COMING --- British Columbia wins the petition jackpot this time!!! -- Many thanks!

To all:- Senator Lorna Milne has been keeping the census pot on the back burner, waiting for the report of the Expert Panel. However, she does remind all that people are still petitioning -- with a few more to be added:- CANADIAN:- Margaret A. Zohner -- Powell River, BC .................. 33 signatures Shirley Lee ----------------- Powell River, BC .................. 58 signatures Katherine Boese -------- Powell River, BC .................. 33 signatures Mel Andress -------------- Abbotsford, BC ................... 15 signatures Janaya Hunka ---------- Vancouver, BC ................... 7 signatures Laura VanLoon --------- Saskatoon, SK ..................... 8 signatures R. E. Lowry ---------------- Lunenburg & Halifax, NS . 5 signatures Total - Canadian - 159 signatures Non-Canadian:- Timothy J. Syzek ------- Baltimore, MD ................... 1 signature Elizabeth Brackett --- Blaine, WA ......................... 2 signatures John D. Leith ----------- Auburndale, MA ............ 1 signature Total - Non-Canadian -- 4 Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> KEEP 'EM COMING --- British Columbia wins the petition kackpot this time!!! -- Many thanks!

This genetic disease was mentioned in a memo -- to be posted later -- about one family's genetic problems and the outcome. The search site also provides information in Italian language. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ============================================ <http://www.thalasemmia.com/message.shtml> Welcome to the website of the Northern California Comprehensive Thalassemia Center at Children's Hospital Oakland. We have been working hard for the last year to bring comprehensive thalassemia information to remote patients, providers, students and the general public that is simple to navigate through and easy to digest. We have modelled the site after our own care program, involving all aspects of care,from medical treatment to psychosocial issues, home care to patient/peer support. Thalassemia is the most common inherited single gene disorder in the world. Scientists and public health officials predict that with global improvements in childhood disease prevention and treatment, and with targeted programs to prevent mortality from malnutrition, thalassemia will become a worldwide issue in the next century. It is our hope that by providing electronic education about the disease, we can raise awareness, encourage people to get tested for trait, and spread knowledge about comprehensive treatment to the global community. Thalassemia is a multi-system, lifelong disease to treat, so there is a lot to know about it. If you have never encountered thalassemia before, try browsing through the Frequently Asked Questions, reading the Medical Definition of Thalassemia, or taking informative journey through our Genetics section, which has thorough explanation of thalassemia. Also, please check out our Patient Forum section for unique patients' perspectives on thalassemia, as well as art and poetry. If you're not a stranger to thalassemia and are looking for specific information, read the Table of Contents to see what's available in this site. You can also click on each section to view its contents. Or simply roll your mouse over the navigation image on the top of this page if you are using Internet Explorer 4.0 or Netscape 3.0 or higher. Each section has a number of sub-sections categorized to make the task of searching a little easier. You can also search the site for specific subjects using our internal search engine. Finally, don't forget to check our News and Updates periodically for new findings related to thalassemia. Thank you for visiting our site. Please keep returning for updates and new articles! Elliott Vichinsky, MD

http://www.archives.ca/02/020110_e.html#top Check the above site, click on PA-041785 -- an enlarged photo taken at the Landing, Saint John, New Brunswick -- if your ancestor was a Dr. Bernardo child, he or she could be among the group. I apologize for sending it this way -- Rootsweb does not handle photos. There was a number that copied from the site "020110-e" All the best -- Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- ALS is a very difficult diease -- for the patient and for the family. Type in ALS on your search engine -- much on internet. Recently there was a three-page ALS submission on the CENSUS list, which I will gladly send to any who ask for it -- as I will send by attachment, it will not be via a Rootsweb list. The submission was part of one forwarded to the Expert Panel re census release -- one place we can find records of diseases. Senator Lorna Milne will be using GENETICALLY INHERITED DISEASES as one part of her argument the 1911 census should be released. Some notes follow: ALS can be passed by EITHER parent. Dr. Peter Andersen at the University of Northern Sweden is at this time doing research into ALS by following at least three family lines since the 1880's. At least I think that was the date. Unfortunately, the answer is yes. It is passed on randomly. My sister-in-law died of ALS a year ago. I don't know whether it is inherited just from a mother, or from either parent. AE Richards Is A.L.S. an inherited disease??? And if it is, does it come through the mothers' blood line? The writers will recognize their notes, I am certain. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Much more about this disease can be found at the following URL:- <http://www.thalassemia.com/message.shtml> Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ========================================= Hello Muriel, My husband's family is from Italy and we have only known them in the last year because of family related problems. About 24 years ago my nephew got very ill and was in the hospital a few days and had all kinds of tests run. The doctors could find nothing wrong with this little boy until a new Registered Nurse, right out of school, noticed a blood disorder and did some checking. She found he had Thalassemia and then we learned that father passes to daughters and mothers passes this disease on to sons. We knew nothing about it until reading further and discovered that it came from Italy with the Grandparents. My husband and daughters have a light case of it, but it his my sister-in-law's children who have more severe illnesses. We began a search for the family in 1969 and it took us until 1999 to find them and if we had been successful, we might have saved a cousin's life. The Uncle had been treated for years for anemia and iron supplements only made him swell up and his feet would get huge so he stopped taking the iron. In the meantime, we found them and they had a daughter die, bad blood plus other symtoms but no one knew what was the cause. When the Uncle came to Maine to meet us and we got discussing Health problems, he told us he didn't know of anything in the family--so we gave him all the information we could find and now at 89 years of age, he is getting the right kind of treatment for the illness. It is the most common inherited Single gene disorder in the world. It is a blood disorder characterized by the absent or decreased production of normal Hemoglobin. It causes low blood, and in children caused them not to sleep well or eat well either. The bone marrow cannot produce enough red blood cells amd there is no known cause other then inherited. We do not speak Itialian - the grandparents did, but they are all gone now. The uncle was born in Italy, but my father-in-law was born in the United States. There is a site - - www.geocites.com/HotSprings/5917/thal3.htm that has information on this and there are a lot of sources on the internet now that we didn't have many years ago when the children were small and growing. [Site not available in Canada] We had no idea that there was any disease inherited from the family, but anyone with several different backgrounds should be aware of this sneaky desease. I am sure that you can find many sites for info on this. I just wish that we could have known early enough to have saved the life of a relative, but hopefully we can pass on information and save future generations from Thalassemia!! We need the census to help trace the background of our families to learn what is in our backgrounds that is harmful to all of us. We know this has been in the family probably since 1920, and since it is inherited, it has most likely been in the Bruno family for many, many years. I hope this message will help some. I don't have my files here at home where I can get to them, but there are a lot of places to check for further information. Thanks and all the best of luck Geraldine Black Maine <jblack@ainop.com>

Please add the following sender of a petition to Senator Lorna Milne: Non-Canadian:- Nancy L. Neylon ------ Gays Mills, WI ......... 1 signature Every signature counts -- all are appreciated!! Muriel <davidson3542@home.com> <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census> <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html> Read (and print) THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon A. Watts [All copyright material has been removed]

To all:- Let us surprise Gordon Watts while he is away and keep the column filled with memos from many -- this provides and creates more interest as each person writes differently. Also, I have requested French language memos with English translation. There are many French language people in many parts of Canada -- not only Quebec. We would like to hear from you -- if possible, provide an English tranlation and send to me. Keep the letters coming IF you have heard from your Member of Parliament -- we do not need the complete letter, but type the section that will give a YES, NO or Undecided answer. Gordon Watts will update the Scoreboard when he gets back home -- in the meantime, I will save your letters to disk. Keep the letters and petitions coming -- one today with 58 names! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census> <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html>

To all:- Many have been following and saving the various Genetically Inherited Diseases posted recently. To date, I have received memos about Parkinson's and many others. IF your family has experience with this situation, it might help with release of the census -- also help others. Please keep the letters coming, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- Mr. John Bryden's Access to Information, Private Member's Bill C-206, was read for the FIRST TIME today in the House of Commons, with a lengthy debate in both French and English languages. The Bill has been modified somewhat, according to the dialogue, and we hope to receive the new updated version of the Bill. The original content may be found on:- <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html> The Bill was signed by 100 or more -- this makes Bill C-206 votable. It was originally introduced in 1997, sort of pushed to the back burner and is now revived. It seemed to be a non-partisan debate -- we hope so, the only way to get something passed in the House of Commons. After today, Bill C-206 drops to the bottom of the pile until next time. There was also some discussion about resurrecting the "lottery" system for presentation of Private Member's Bills. Another suggestion was that Friday would be a working day, but with only Private Member's Bills, with these not tacked on at the end of the day as at present. Other business in the House of Commons included "impaired driving" section of the Criminal Code. CPAC (Canadian Public Affairs Channel) is very interesting, but the only time one sees many of the Members of Parliament is during voting. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>