As requested - here's where people can write to request the information about them that is in the HRDC database. Citizens need to include their NAME, ddress and S.I.N. number and write to: Access to Information and Privacy Co-ordinator - HRDC Place du Portage Phase IV, Level 1 140 Promenade du Portage Hull, Que K1A 0J9 Terri Shewfelt Constituency Assistant Office -- Mr. John Bryden, MP ============================= In response to your request I have been able to get the following information. Access to Information Commissioner's Office 112 Kent Street, 22nd Floor Ottawa, ON K1A 1H3 Tel: 995-2410 Commissioner- Mr. John Reid Hope that helps! Tara Hughes Special Assistant to Senator Colin Kenny The Senate of Canada Ottawa, ON K1A 0A4 Tel: (613) 943-3187 Fax: (613) 996-3737 ========================================= Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Dear Mr. Casey, <Casey.B@parl.gc.ca> With recent revelations on how this government (and the one previous) sanctioned the compilation of dossiers on each and every citizen in this country to a level only rivaled by the former Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, it seems somewhat paradoxical that we are even entertaining the idea of blocking the release of census data after 92 years. Granted, the Expert Panel will be bringing down their report within days and this will sway Members' opinions. However, I would like to know just where MY elected MP stands on the matter. Hence the following question that only requires a simple yea or nay reply: "Would you, as an elected Member of the House of Commons of the Parliament of Canada, vote FOR or AGAINST a Bill supporting release to the Public, of Post 1901 Census Records, 92 years after they were recorded. ( 1911 census information available in 2003, 1921 in 2013 etc.)" Further, what is your opinion on private member Bill C-206? Lastly, I would appreciate knowing where I can obtain a copy of the Expert Panel's Report when it is tabled and released. Sincerely, Thomas G. Lynch 23 Pleasant St., #3 Truro, NS, B2N 3R7 cc hardcopy to Truro office.

To all -- If you are not a CPAC watcher, better look up the channel. Mine comes in on Cable 70 - but every area is different. This is the House of Commons in actual session!! THIS IS THE REPORT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! Comments -- after you hear what is said. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> NOTE:- Send a "Thank You" to Adele -- she is really blitzing the Members of Parliament -- Gordon Watts will be kept busy when he gets back home -- including the change from Reform to Alliance. ====================================== Muriel: I received this reply today. Adele Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: Reynolds, John - M.P. <Reynolds.J@parl.gc.ca> To: 'Adele J. Turner' <aturner@axionet.com> Sent: May 30, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: RE: Post 1901 Census Mrs. Turner, Thank you for your recent e-mail. The Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records is studying the matter, and is expected to report tomorrow. Our Critic, Mr. Charlie Penson will take the time to read the report and will make a recommendation to the Canadian Alliance Caucus. For your information, there is quite a lot of information about the panel on the Statistics Canada website at: http://www.statcan.ca/start.html. When you get onto the Census page, there is a link at the bottom of it. John Reynolds, Member of Parliament Official Opposition Critic for Justice (613) 947-4617 T. (613)947-4620 Fx. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adele J. Turner [mailto:aturner@axionet.com] > Sent: May 28, 2000 6:09 PM > To: Reynolds.J@parl.gc.ca > Subject: Post 1901 Census > > > Please read and reply to this very important question which is pertinent for > all of those interested in history and more specifically to the present and > future family history researchers. > > Are you, as an elected Member of the House of Commons of the Parliament of > Canada, voting FOR or AGAINST a Bill supporting release to the Public, of > Post 1901 Census Records, 92 years after they were recorded. ( 1911 census > information available in 2003, 1921 in 2013 etc)? > > Please please please vote FOR the release of the census! Does your party > want my vote in the next election? How you vote the above question could > make the difference in how I vote in the next election. > > Thank you, > > Adele Turner > North Vancouver, B. C. > (604) 987-5137 > aturner@axionet.com

To all:- One item is listed as a cartoon -- only because it is in the cartoon spot on the editorial page of The Halifax Herald -- my favorite paper!! The other item is "the story of the day" -- I would suggest this be printed or saved in some way -- you may wish to refer to it again. This story tells us what we can do about our personal data files AFTER June 30th, 2000. I am pleased this huge database is being dismantled - at last!! Read this Herald story very carefully -- also deals with photo I.D. Should you wish to return to The Halifax Herald, Back to main page, then bookmark....many have already done this. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/showcartoon?2000/05/30 The Big Brother story:- http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/loadmain?2000/05/30+157.raw

To all:- THIS MEMO MAY BE FORWARDED The great news today, first sent to me by Doug Joudrey, a fellow Census committee member, and then read on the front page of The Toronto Star, is that files about YOU and I are being dismantled. The Hon. Jane Stewart announced this yesterday about the huge database she had accumulated on over 30 million citizens. The information included marital status, education, even if caught by the police, income tax, investments - anything under our S.I.N. Even Mr. Bruce Phillips conceded it invaded OUR privacy. Over 18,000 requests have been received to date, will be processed and WE will be able to learn what her Human Resources department knew about us. Please remember -- this is not the CENSUS DEPARTMENT and we have yet to hear from the Expert Panel. Citizens of Canada, wishing to learn about themselves, have until June 30th, 2000 to file a request -- please keep a copy of what is sent to The Hon. Jane Stewart, HRDC. Your full name and address, plus your Social Insurance Number (as used in banks, etc.) must be on the request. The address, fax or telephone is listed below. Some time ago I learned how much money I had in the banks, the investments, I was married, had three children, we owned a car and a camper van, sold our house to our son 10 years ago -- plus other data -- also my mother was born in Maine. I will go on record as stating this database should never have been compiled, regardless of political party. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Brampton, Ontario ======================================= Correspondence Log Name: The Hon. Jane Stewart Political Party: Liberal Party of Canada Constituency: Brant Province: Ontario Telephone: (613) 992-3118 Fax: (613) 992-6382 Email Stewart.J@parl.gc.ca Address: House of Commons, Ottawa K1A OA6 [Postage is FREE]

To all:- As previously mentioned, there should be BLUE in the sky, not on the Scoreboard for Members of Parliament. Many are contacting their own Member of Parliament, asking his/her view and how their Member would vote on census release of the post-1901 records. We would also like to know their viewpoints re Access to Information Bill C-206. Some are contacting all BLUE and GREEN categories (right word?) Check <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> >From surnames beginning with D to H, we have:- 44 with BLUE ???????? -- too many + 50 from A - C = 94 1 with RED X - Mr. Bill Gilmour GREEN pieces of fence:- R. DUHAMEL WAYNE EASTER REED ELLERY HEDY FRY YVON GODIN HERB GRAY RICHARD HARRIS JAY HILL GOLD Tick Marks, and thanks, went to:- Gordon Earle Deborah Grey John Harvard Dr. Grant Hill Let us know of any response, please. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Many thanks for writing, Beverly -- many are responding with action -- none of us wish to see the blue ????, but often we are able to understand the Undecided. With your letter, as soon as Gordon Watts gets near a computer other than his laptop, I know Peter Stoffer will have something other than a blue ?. I am formerly from Nova Scotia -- very interested in all Nova Scotian Members of Parliament, regardless of party. Many thanks, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> =============================================== A positive scenario for a change, I did e-mail my Member of Parliament, Peter Stoffer, regarding the acquisition to Census material for legitimate research purposes as he was one of those "undecided or uncommitted" members. I explained how in my personal circumstances, my grandmother had little formal schooling and with nine youngsters, little time to spend on daily diaries or family genealogy in the early 1900s. Also, there are many tracking the genetic anomalies Ms. Davidson mentioned, and the vital statistics, while not clarifying what deaths were from, in the case of young children and infants, or premature births, can bring patterning to light in some lines. I was, therefore, delighted to have a phone call from Mr. Stoffer during his haitus from Parliament last weekend thanking me for my detailed reasons for resolving the issue in favor of leaving statistics available. He said at that time only one sitting MP was still holding the hard line on shutting things down at the last debate. I advised Mr. Stoffer I would be obtaining a copy Parliamentary records pertaining to the debate to verify how he presented the views of his constituents and himself. I did this once before. I seldom input to this list, but in fairness there are some politicians who do not buy a pair of earplugs with their first federal cheque and stop listening to those who elected them. ================= Click on <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Mail it to yourself so it is near at hand. I use the Copy and Paste method -- will explain if asked. Muriel <davidson3542@home.com>

LOIS SPARLING, a barrister and solicitor, from Alberta, Canada, has written and posted a very thought-provoking article re post-1901 census, our fight to have it released, the governmment's stand and viewpoints. Go to: <http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml> The lengthy article, with only one paragraph printed below, is found at <http://www.calcna.ab.ca/afhs/censuslaw.html> "Historians and genealogists study census returns for information about family groups, neighbourhoods and communities. It is the only primary source which places the individual in his or her family and community context. Historians and genealogists want the historic census returns to continue to be released to the public after a suitable period of secrecy, i.e., 92 years." Also available from the first site is Gordon Watts' THE MYTHS OF CENSUS. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Print THE MYTHS OF CENSUS - copyrighted material removed:- http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

To all -- and it looks very good! <www.johnbrydenmp.com> This is Mr. John Bryden's own web page -- I had a phone call from his office, asking if I had received any addresses re Access to Information. {We have but the HRDC one is ????} I wanted a copy of his Bill C-206 as he was allowed to present it, but possibly Gordon Watts will find it on Hansard. When this is received it will be added to <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html> In the meantime, let's keep trying to get rid of the green FENCES and blue ????? by checking <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Do not bother with red X or gold ticks -- we know how they stand. Remember, the only BLUE should be in the sky -- not the scoreboard. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- We have too many ELECTED (at present) Members of Parliament who have not bothered to answer questions asked of them by many who have let us know ALL elected ones had been questioned. Last summer I sent 301 letters, FREE postage, and received only 25 answers. Gordon Watts has contacted them several times, as had Rick Roberts of Global Genealogy. Now -- with a possible election pending -- it is up to the voters to ask IF he or she will vote in favor of opening the Post-1901 census records. Also, are they in favor of Access to Information Bill C-206 being passed. Recently, Genetically Inherited Diseases became a prime topic, Go to the archives and type in your search word(s) at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.htm For those who are FENCE-SITTERS or have BLUE ??????, go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Adam, a former employee at Global Genealogy, set up the Scoreboard. When you let us know how your Member of Parliament responds, Gordon Watts updates the scoreboard -- we want it completed prior to a fall election. Adam included a handy "pop-up" for your e-mail. One lady (name withheld) did a mass blitz yesterday of all "fence sitters and blue question marks" Another reported she had sent memos to all Reform members in Alberta. I sent the list to myself, so it is open on my screen in a special memo. This keeps it handy -- even easier than bookmarking! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

Many thanks, Sharon -- we sincerely hope our fight to obtain release of our census records is drawing to a close. Should the Expert Panel state otherwise, we will continue to go on fighting Ottawa and various ones we elected and now hoping for re-election. Many thanks for your continued support, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson35422home.com> Sharon Sergeant wrote: > Hello, > It appears that the long struggle for the release of the post 1901 Canadian > census is finally starting to strike a common sense view. > > The expert panel recommendations are due by May 31. Recent reports suggest that > the issues of inherited diseases and medical research are the most compelling > reason for hope in this matter. Other reports about extensive contemporary > government files on Canadian citizens belie the smoke screen of "protecting the > privacy" of folks from almost 100 years ago. So the privacy commissioner's "to > hell with historians" attitude may be crumbling. > > Search the archives for inherited diseases postings and other Census issues at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html > > BUT nothing is ever easy, so if you haven't written an MP or an expert panel > member on this important topic, please take a moment and go to the Canadian > Census Campaign site for contact info and a lot of important info: > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm > > I have printed petitions to be available at NGS 2000 in Providence at Boston > States Migrations table for the society fair Wed evening May 31 - just in > case. > > You do not have to register to go to either the society fair or the exhibitor > hall - May 31-June 3: > The exhibit hall will officially open to conference attendees and walk-in > shoppers after the Opening Ceremony on Wednesday morning. Local advertising and > conference promotions will be used to encourage the general public to visit the > exhibits. > Wednesday 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM > Thursday 9:00 AM to 5:30 PM > Friday 9:00 AM to 5:30 PM > Saturday 8:30 AM to 4:00 PM > http://ngsgenealogy.org/conference/frame_highlights.html > > If you can stop by Providence RI next week, please do! > thanks, > Sharon Sergeant <ssergeant@usa.net> > http://bostonstates.rootsweb.com > >

To all:- The very moving ceremony held in Ottawa yesterday will remain with many of us for a very long time. Being a former Nova Scotian, I was moved to know soil from Nova Scotia was placed there -- identifiable by the Nova Scotian tartan. Extremely moving was the speech by our Governor-General Adrienne Clarkson - she spoke for all of us, I felt. Click on the following -- I cannot copy it as attachments cannot be sent via Rootsweb:- http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/displaystory?2000/05/29+204.raw+Canada The URL will likely split -- if you are not able to access, I have it on my screen. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

~ In Honor of Memorial Day ~ http://www.lovethissite.com/memorial [turn on your speakers!]

Bottom line, Muriel, aren't these inherited diseases the most important reason to have census years available for researchers? No matter what the reason, census retention and accessability seems to be a closer goal than before. Kudos to all but most especially to you and Gordon Watts who have pushed this issue so relentlessly. George S. Robinson, Jr. 2604 Horseshoe Trail Chester Springs, PA 19425 United States of America georger@voicenet.com 610-827-7445 Member: Essex Society of Genealogists, Lynnfield, MA Searching: P i n g r e e, R o b i n s o n, S u t h e r l a n d, W e l l s, N o y e s, L a m b e r t, L e a r y, R a l s t o n, R i f e, C u s h i n g, W h e e l e r Genealogy...it's not a hobby, it's an obsession!!! Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as progress. Gen. Lesson #1 "Grandma's tight lips mean that her parents were first cousins!" Gen. Lesson #2 Patience is encouraged. Genealogy is supposed to be fun... right??? Right!!!!! On Sun, 28 May 2000 10:26:18 -0400, "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> wrote: >Hi Wayne:- >Like many of us -- we are very anxiously awaiting the report. >The House resumes May 30th -- they had their week off because >of Victoria Day -- and the given deadline was May 31st. > >I am encouraged by one remark made by Dr. Pamela White: >-- she was amazed at the number of letters I have received >re diseases after I had submitted my Genetically Inherited >Diseases submission to them. She said the committee members >read it from cover to cover. > >If it takes diseases to get the census records released, so be it! > >More unknown and inheritable diseases still being posted. > >Muriel <davidson3542@home.com> > >Wayne Cook wrote: > >> Hi Muriel, >> The report from the panel is suppose to be released in a few days to the >> Hon. John Manley. Do you know if and when the report is actually going to >> be released to the public? >> All the best >> Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com

Hi Wayne:- Like many of us -- we are very anxiously awaiting the report. The House resumes May 30th -- they had their week off because of Victoria Day -- and the given deadline was May 31st. I am encouraged by one remark made by Dr. Pamela White: -- she was amazed at the number of letters I have received re diseases after I had submitted my Genetically Inherited Diseases submission to them. She said the committee members read it from cover to cover. If it takes diseases to get the census records released, so be it! More unknown and inheritable diseases still being posted. Muriel <davidson3542@home.com> Wayne Cook wrote: > Hi Muriel, > The report from the panel is suppose to be released in a few days to the > Hon. John Manley. Do you know if and when the report is actually going to > be released to the public? > All the best > Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com > (A History Television Approved Site) > and your host for the Simcoe County Genweb page at > http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > 1. HISTORIC PLAQUES OF ONTARIO 557 plaques Online, part of the Historic > Plaques of the World Project, Provincial and State hosts needed > 2. CANADIAN QUERY BOARDS http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html > > >

Hi Muriel, The report from the panel is suppose to be released in a few days to the Hon. John Manley. Do you know if and when the report is actually going to be released to the public? All the best Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) and your host for the Simcoe County Genweb page at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml 1. HISTORIC PLAQUES OF ONTARIO 557 plaques Online, part of the Historic Plaques of the World Project, Provincial and State hosts needed 2. CANADIAN QUERY BOARDS http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html

To all: <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> This URL will take you directly to the Scoreboard of how Members of Parliament answered questions about how they would vote on census release. Headings as set up by Rick Roberts & Gordon Watts are:- MP Riding Party FOR Undecided Against e-mail Name (area) (PC) (tick) (fence) X ? You will notice there are two descriptions showing for UNDECIDED, the piece of green fence means the person is undecided but has sent a letter the ? means he/she has not bothered to answer We need to concentrate on the ???????? The e-mail place is where you click on it, send an e-mail -- add your return address so he/she may reply. There were 50 ???? in A - B - C -- too many. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Re: Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Disease Research There has been several notes of complaint about diseases being published on the CENSUS list. If Genetically Inherited Diseases is the catalyst that opens the gate to the census records, we may be on the right track - also we like to know. Also - to date, the listowner has not complained -- we just want the post-1901 census records OPEN for US to use. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ============================================ [Copied from Parkinson's Disease site] MICHAEL J. FOX PUTS PARKINSON'S IN THE SPOTLIGHT On the heels of a strong cover story in the current edition of Newsweek and a powerful segment on ABC's "20-20" program Wednesday night, Parkinson's will remain in the media spotlight for a week or more as celebrity-spokesman Michael J. Fox continues his media tour celebrating the creation of the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's research. Appearances included:- Wednesday, May 24 Fox's final appearance on Spin City, the NBC series that he created. The show will feature the Foundation's new public service announcement. Along with all everyone else who is hell-bent on ending this crippling condition for ever, the Parkinson's Disease Foundation salutes and applauds Mike's appearance as our leading spokesman. We are fully aware - as he is - of the power of celebrity in a media culture and of the enormous power it can bring both to raising awareness and understanding of Parkinson's disease and to building public support for the scientific research that alone can end it. ============ All Canadians salute Mike Fox -- now only 38, was diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease about 10 years ago. Truly a great Canadian! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ===================================== From: RWLNGSM@aol.com To: davidson3542@home.com Muriel, My mom was recently diagnosed with Parkinson's and we were told that PD is NOT hereditary although they still do not know its cause. To my knowledge there is no one in her family history who had PD or any symptoms similar to PD. If you have info to the contrary, please let me know. Thanks! Marilyn - Florida ============== Marilyn:- Anyone studying genetics at present has a different viewpoint than doctors who graduated even ten years ago. There are similar diseases but I would definitely keep a medical card file [This information from my grandson - in medical school, studying Genetics and all that goes with it]. Muriel ================================= Good girl. Makes me sorry I missed this interesting message the first time! If you have it, please forward to me! Thanks, Di Diane Donley <ddonley@idirect.com> cemetery coordinator, York Region Br, OGS =================================== Dear Mr Bagley, and list members, My name is Anna and I wanted to write to you to mention that just one year ago I began researching my family tree...( my biological family) as I am adopted for the very reason being discussed on the list...for genetic reasons related to health history. It was for this reason..and only this reason. Since beginning my research I have been fortunate to obtain health information from burial certificates, etc. Any records that can help me with my search are very important to me. I have also found that I am related to my adoptive mother (cousins)...and am now researching for both health AND genealogical reasons. Parkinsons disease and its symptoms, though not proven to be hereditary, has shown up in the last 4 generations of my family, including my mother. Thank you for your time. Anna Purdue <purdue@nbnet.nb.ca> ===================================== Dear Anna: I hope your research continues to be successful and helpful. The really nice thing about the Internet and forms like this one is it gives people like myself the opportunity to express our views and it gives others the opportunity to disagree. It is all about learning. Ross Bagley <bagley.wray@sympatico.ca> ============================ Speak for yourself, sir. If your family had a history of Parkinson's, you'd support anything that would lead to a break through. One of the reasons many people become interested in genealogy is to trace their family's medical history. I've not noticed that we've been overwhelmed with "pet" charities - and I don't think we will now. People do use a modicum of common sense. Regards, Lotus Young <nonnie@t-one.net> ============================= Good for you, Muriel...there but for the grace of God go I (and all the rest of us. As a home care nurse, I am hoping for the day that we exercise a little more patience and understanding in the pursuit of our own goals - every day is a gift! Have a great day, Shannon Loechner <scloechner@home.com> ================================= From: "Adrian and Linda" <adr@istar.ca> To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> Right on! ======================================= From: Audrey Annable Franklin" <jrfranklin@earthlink.net> To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com>, <NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com> Did anyone hear on TV today that coffee is believed now to prevent Parkinson's development in people by up to 500%! First good thing I have eard about coffee (I do not drink it). Audrey ========================================

>I am still waiting to hear from you. > >I have sent you THREE (3) emails asking you how you intend to vote on >this issue. > >I have told you how I want you to vote - since you are MY >representative in Parliament. And as MY representative, you are >required to listen to my questions, you are required to give me an >answer, and you are required to keep MY best interests in mind when >you vote. > >Muriel Gambrel >

Just for fun, check the following:- Totals for the A - B - C sections of the members of Parliament Scoreboard:- RED X - Rob Anders BLUE QUESTION MARKS -- 50 Members of Parliament -- TOO MANY!!! GREEN FENCE SECTION:- Lloyd Axworthy Leo Benoit Don Boudria Claudette Bradshaw Chuck Cadman Aileen Carroll Bill Casey Rick Casson Marlene Catterall Jean Chretien David Collenette Sheila Coppy GOLD TICKS -- meaning they agree with census records release: Sarkis Assadourian - my Member of Parliament -- I thanked him Colleen Beaumier Bill Blaikie Scott Brisson John Bryden Murray Calder Brenda Chamberlain David Chatters Click on <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census> Click on list of Members of Parliament To the right of the screen there is a pop-up place where YOU may ask 1. Are you in favor of post-1901 census records release? 2. Are you in favor of Access to Information Bill C-206 being passed. Concentrate on the BLUE ones -- possibly they have forgotten! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>