Many thanks, Jack -- The reason I am doing this by provinces is that a resident of a province will often succeed where others fail. Mr. Bill Gilmour, MP will have his red X dumped in the garbage as soon as Gordon Watts can get this changed to GOLD. This brings the Gold Club total to 36 -- so far. Many many thanks, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> "Jack E. Horning" wrote: > I received an e-mail message this evening from my MP Bill Gilmour of > Nanaimo -Alberni that he has reversed his earlier decision and will now > support the release to the public of 1906 and all later Canada census data. > I trust you will promptly change that big red X to a GOLD supporter. I > should mention that he did indicate that he personally has eservations about > this but said "constituents who have voiced their opinion on this > have no such reservations". > > Jack E. Horning > Parksville BC
To all who would like to have the Post-1901 Census released: Small notes need to be sent to some listed below:- Congratulate the GOLD (G) Members of Parliament Try to get the FENCE (F) MPs to change their minds Concentrate on the BLUE ????? Address with cute little pop-up place to send your note: <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> IF you receive an answer, let us know -- just a YES, No or ?? Question:- Will you, as an elected member of Parliament, support any Bills or Motions for release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records? Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== MANITOBA - 14 ? - Mr. Alcock, Reg....................Winnipeg South F - The Hon. Axworthy, Lloyd..Winnipeg South Centre G - Mr. Blaikie, Bill........................Winnipeg Transcona ? - Mr. Borotsik, Rick...................Brandon--Souris ? - Mrs. Desjarlais, Bev...............Churchill F - The Hon. Duhamel, Ronald..Saint Boniface G - Mr. Harvard, John...............Charleswood St. James--Assiniboia ? - Mr. Hilstrom, Howard...........Selkirk--Interlake ? - Mr. Hoeppner, Jake.............Portage--Lisgar ? - Mr. Iftody, David..................Provencher G - Mr. Mark, Inky......................Dauphin--Swan River ? - Mr. Martin, Pat.....................Winnipeg Centre ? - Mr. Pagtakhan, Rey...........Winnipeg North--St. Paul F - Ms. Wasylycia-Leis, Judy....Winnipeg North Centre CORRECTIONS:- Please let me know -- If you have printed the ALBERTA list, Mrs. Diane Ablonczy of Calgary-Nose Hill is a GOLD CLUB member - Total now 35.
john reyolds is a gold club member too..he's my mp..i nailed him down. and have his response to..i can reforward it.. i've written to heddy fry and got forwarded to john manley. libby davies was just another letter to john..betcha that man can spell my name in his sleep..)) chuck cadman didn't even respond back. herb dahiwal is another dead air guy. phil mayfield is gathering daisies..and i can't remember the other ones i've written..i've been eeny meeny miney moeing it thru the list..or targetting ones that i have know family living in there ridings..or who did live in there riding.. i'm really disappointed in libby and heddy. i thanked them for forwarding my letter..but what was thier position..and no response back. oh well..just keep pushing at them.. talk to you later. roz -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson [SMTP:davidson3542@home.com] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:27 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC-L] BRITISH COLUMBIA Scoreboard Standings To all:- Will someone forward this list to the British Columbia list, please? We need to concentrate on those BLUE ?????, forget the GOLD tick marks, the RED Xs -- the GREEN Fences need a few letters. Any reader may write to ones listed -- not only committee members E-mail addresses at: <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== BRITISH COLUMBIA (34) QUESTION:- Are YOU in favor of release of Post-1901 census? ? - Mr. Abbott, Jim ......................Kootenay--Columbia ? - The Hon. Anderson, David...Victoria F - Mr. Cadman, Chuck .............Surrey North ? - The Hon. Chan, Raymond....Richmond ? - Mr. Cummins, John.................Delta--South Richmond ? - Ms. Davies, Libby.....................Vancouver East ? - The Hon. Dhaliwal, Herb.......Vancouver South--Burnaby ? - Mr. Duncan, John..................Vancouver Island North F - Mr. Elley, Reed ........................Nanaimo--Cowichan ? - Mr. Forseth, Paul.....................New Westminster--Coquitlam--Burnaby F - The Hon. Fry, Hedy.................Vancouver Centre X - Mr. Gilmour, Bill.......................Nanaimo--Alberni ? - Mr. Gouk, Jim.........................Kootenay--Boundary--Okanagan ? - Mr. Grewal, Gurmant.......... Surrey Central F - Mr. Harris, Richard.................Prince George--Bulkley Valley ? - Mr. Hart, Jim...........................Okanagan--Coquihalla F - Mr. Hill, Jay..............................Prince George--Peace River ? - Ms. Leung, Sophia................Vancouver Kingsway ? - Mr. Lunn, Gary.......................Saanich--Gulf Islands ? - Mr. Martin, Keith...................Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca ? - Mr. Mayfield, Philip...............Cariboo--Chilcotin ? - Mr. McNally, Grant..............Dewdney--Alouette ? - Mr. McWhinney, Ted...........Vancouver Quadra ? - Ms. Meredith, Val.................South Surrey--White Rock--Lan gley F - Mr. Reynolds, John...............West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast G - Mr. Riis, Nelson....................... Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys G - Mr. Robinson, Svend...........Burnaby--Douglas ? - Mr. Schmidt, Werner...........Kelowna ? - Mr. Scott, Mike.....................Skeena F - Mr. Sekora, Lou.....................Port Moody--Coquitlam--Port Coquitlam G - Mr. Stinson, Darrel ..............Okanagan--Shuswap ? - Mr. Strahl, Chuck................Fraser Valley ? - Mr. White, Randy................Langley--Abbotsford F - Mr. White, Ted.....................North Vancouver SUMMARY -- X - 1/F - 8/G - 3/ and ???? - 22....total 34 SUGGESTION:- Print each list, then go to the Scoreboard URL There's a handy little pop-up there to write your message. These may be copied to myself -- or when answer is received, please forward.
To all:- Will someone forward this list to the British Columbia list, please? We need to concentrate on those BLUE ?????, forget the GOLD tick marks, the RED Xs -- the GREEN Fences need a few letters. Any reader may write to ones listed -- not only committee members E-mail addresses at: <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== BRITISH COLUMBIA (34) QUESTION:- Are YOU in favor of release of Post-1901 census? ? - Mr. Abbott, Jim ......................Kootenay--Columbia ? - The Hon. Anderson, David...Victoria F - Mr. Cadman, Chuck .............Surrey North ? - The Hon. Chan, Raymond....Richmond ? - Mr. Cummins, John.................Delta--South Richmond ? - Ms. Davies, Libby.....................Vancouver East ? - The Hon. Dhaliwal, Herb.......Vancouver South--Burnaby ? - Mr. Duncan, John..................Vancouver Island North F - Mr. Elley, Reed ........................Nanaimo--Cowichan ? - Mr. Forseth, Paul.....................New Westminster--Coquitlam--Burnaby F - The Hon. Fry, Hedy.................Vancouver Centre X - Mr. Gilmour, Bill.......................Nanaimo--Alberni ? - Mr. Gouk, Jim.........................Kootenay--Boundary--Okanagan ? - Mr. Grewal, Gurmant.......... Surrey Central F - Mr. Harris, Richard.................Prince George--Bulkley Valley ? - Mr. Hart, Jim...........................Okanagan--Coquihalla F - Mr. Hill, Jay..............................Prince George--Peace River ? - Ms. Leung, Sophia................Vancouver Kingsway ? - Mr. Lunn, Gary.......................Saanich--Gulf Islands ? - Mr. Martin, Keith...................Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca ? - Mr. Mayfield, Philip...............Cariboo--Chilcotin ? - Mr. McNally, Grant..............Dewdney--Alouette ? - Mr. McWhinney, Ted...........Vancouver Quadra ? - Ms. Meredith, Val.................South Surrey--White Rock--Langley F - Mr. Reynolds, John...............West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast G - Mr. Riis, Nelson....................... Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys G - Mr. Robinson, Svend...........Burnaby--Douglas ? - Mr. Schmidt, Werner...........Kelowna ? - Mr. Scott, Mike.....................Skeena F - Mr. Sekora, Lou.....................Port Moody--Coquitlam--Port Coquitlam G - Mr. Stinson, Darrel ..............Okanagan--Shuswap ? - Mr. Strahl, Chuck................Fraser Valley ? - Mr. White, Randy................Langley--Abbotsford F - Mr. White, Ted.....................North Vancouver SUMMARY -- X - 1/F - 8/G - 3/ and ???? - 22....total 34 SUGGESTION:- Print each list, then go to the Scoreboard URL There's a handy little pop-up there to write your message. These may be copied to myself -- or when answer is received, please forward.
Greetings All. MP Yvon Godin presented two petitions on Wednesday 7 June 2000. The extract from Hansard follows. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Mr. Yvon Godin (Acadie-Bathurst, NDP): Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to table two petitions. Some people in my riding are calling upon parliament to take the necessary steps to make a retroactive amendment to the provisions of the Statistics Act relating to the prohibition against divulging information, in order to allow access to the census data after a reasonable period with respect to post-1901 data, beginning with the 1906 census.
Hi Tom. You have reiterated a number of points that many of us have been saying for quite a while now. Many of our Committee members have been at this for varying periods of time. I have personally been encouraging subscribers on various mail lists to contact their MPs for almost three years now. I originally found out about the problem re: Post 1901 Census from a posting of Lyn Winters on the GANS website. The main thrust of our campaign has been going now for a little over a year, with Canada wide petitions, and letter writing campaigns. I would like to think that we would have a resolution to our problems before the next election but there is no guarantee that this will happen. I am concerned that if we must continue after a new election we may be starting all over again with new people in the government positions that we must deal with. I would personally like to see a resolution prior to the next election so that I can get back to dealing with my genealogy which has been taking a back seat in favour of our campaign for some time now. We must be prepared to step up our campaign of writing MPs and Ministers shortly but until the report of the Expert Panel is brought down by the end of this month it is difficult to say what the wording of the letters and emails should be. I am optimistic that the report will come down in favour of allowing access to Historic Census records but again there is no guarantee of that. We now have two identical Bills before the two houses of Parliament -- Bill S-15 presented by Senator Lorna Milne in the Senate, and Bill C-484 presented by MP Murray Calder in the House of Commons. Assuming the Expert Panel recommends allowing access, my thoughts at the moment are that we should put together an entirely new petition urging the acceptance of these Bills as a Government Bill, citing the recommendations of the Expert Panel. If this were to happen the Bill would almost certainly be passed. As has been stated many times during our campaign, one of the most difficult things we have had to contend with has been trying to get the media to pay attention to us. Perhaps release of the report of the Expert Panel might cause the media to pay a little more attention to our letters to editors etc., at least for a little while. While we are still a ways from the finish line, I think that we can be proud of what our efforts so far have produced. We have got Industry Minister John Manley to ask Statistics Canada for possible options to address our concerns, we have had an Expert Panel appointed to study access to Historic Census records and to make recommendations, we have a Bill in the Senate, and two Bills and a Motion in the House of Commons. We have produced and had presented petitions containing many thousands of signatures. We have also made a great many people aware of the problem and we have a great deal of support for our campaign, not only in Canada, but in the US, England, Ireland, France, Australia, New Zealand, and most of the rest of the "western" nations of the world. Being proud of what we have so far accomplished does not mean we can now rest on our laurels. We must continue our efforts until we have reached our goal, all the time remembering that we may well be just at the beginning of what may be necessary. With the summer recess rapidly approaching, our MPs will be returning to their home constituency offices. This will provide many opportunities for face to face discussions regarding access to Census. I look forward to hearing the results of many of these discussions and will add those to the correspondence logs attached to the MPs Scoreboard. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Lynch <lyncan@col.auracom.com> To: Gordon A. WATTS <gordon_watts@telus.net> Cc: Muriel M. Davidson <Farquhar@netcom.ca> Sent: Thursday, 08 June, 2000 5:36 AM Subject: Call To Arms? I too feel that the question of census release will be delayed until after Parliament recesses for the summer and is deferred until next session or after a possible election. If the latter, this gives us additional time and leverage to bring our MPs around to a positive-response frame of mind. A lot of sheep-like response was generated by the statements from StatsCan and the Privacy Commissioner, while excellent arguments such as the one from Gordon Watts were forced into being rebuttals to their comments.. first impressions are lasting and our two federal employees were quicker off the mark. With deferment clearly offing, we should now develop a strategy to maintain (and indeed accelerate) our momentum. Such telling points as have been established by others on this list should be printed up and presented to those 'on the fence' or in the negative camp. We must publicly educate the average voter in what is at stake here.. and the long-term inroads that will result in personal or collective freedoms if this bureaucratic nightmare is allowed to become law or policy. In other words, we must become a semi-professional lobby group, maintaining the pressure upon members and the government and keeping the subject in the public forum through the media. This is the long grind.. if Parliament recesses with this unresolved they will hope that the matter will be forgotten by the public at large and resolved as an internal policy matter, as has been the case in the past. The pressure upon all elected official must be maintained, while we educate our MPs and bend them to our wishes. If an election comes about, then one of our questions should just where the candidates stand on the question of release. If we get them on record enough times during an election, they will be sensitized to resolve this favorably when elected. After all is said and done, the results will depend upon us.. will this be another bite out of our democratic and social rights? He who howls longest and hardest is who gets listened to in the long run. These guys work for us, wallow at the trough at our forbearance, and supposedly reflect the wishes of the citizenry. Make it so! Tom Lynch in Truro, NS ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon A. WATTS <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 7, 2000 6:54 PM Subject: [CCC-L] Re: "Pairing"
----- Original Message ----- From: "-Office of the Leader of the Opposition" <OLO@parl.gc.ca> To: <kjorsvik@sprint.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:51 PM June 7, 2000 Donna Kjorsvik <kjorsvik@sprint.ca> Dear Ms. Kjorsvik: Thank you for your recent e-mail message regarding the release of census records to the public. As you may know, I have been appointed Leader of the Official Opposition (Interim) since Preston Manning has made the decision to step down to campaign for the leadership of the new Canadian Alliance. I am honoured to be assuming the duties and responsibilities of this prestigious office and welcome this opportunity to reply to your concerns. You will be interested to know that Canadian Alliance MP Jason Kenney has put forward a motion (M-160) on this issue, calling for the release of 1911 census records once they have been deposited in the National Archives in 2003. This motion is scheduled for debate in the House of Commons on June 6th. Please be assured that the Official Opposition will carefully investigate the questions and issues that this may raise for genealogists, historians, researchers, and the general public. I invite you to write to Canadian Alliance MPs Jason Kenney or Dick Harris on this issue. They may be contacted in care of the House of Commons, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0A6, or via e-mail at <kenney@canadianalliance.ca> or <harris@canadianalliance.ca>. Again, thank you for bringing your concerns to my attention, and for sharing your views on this issue. My best wishes. Sincerely. Deborah Grey, M.P. Leader of the Opposition (Interim) /kjs NOTE:- E-mail addresses for Deborah Grey, Jason Kenney and Richard Harris. There is also Private Member's Bill C-484 presented by Mr. Murray Calder, MP Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html> Print THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts!
To all:- The following is a list of Members of Parliament and their rating as on the Members of Parliament Scoreboard at: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm We would like to see only GOLD (G) meaning YES or RED (X) meaning he/she does not want census released. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ======================================= ALBERTA ? - Mrs. Ablonczy, Diane .........Calgary-Nose Hill X - Mr. Anders, Rob...................Calgary West F - Mr. Benoit, Leon...................Lakeland ? - Mr. Breitkreuz, Cliff..............Yellowhead F - Mr. Casson, Rick..................Lethbridge G - Mr. Chatters, David.........Athabasca ? - Mr. Epp, Ken........................Elk Island ? - Mr. Goldring, Peter...........Edmonton East G - Miss Grey, Deborah........Edmonton North ? - Mr. Hanger, Art................Calgary Northeast G - Mr. Hill, Grant...................Macleod G - Mr. Jaffer, Rahim............Edmonton--Strathcona ? - Mr. Johnston, Dale.........Wetaskiwin G - Mr. Kenney, Jason.........Calgary Southeast ? - The Hon. Kilgour, David.Edmonton Southeast G - Mr. Lowther, Eric............Calgary Centre ? - Mr. Manning, Preston....Calgary Southwest G - Mr. McClelland, Ian......Edmonton Southwest ? - The Hon. McLellan, Anne...Edmonton West ? - Mr. Mills, Bob........................Red Deer G - Mr. Obhrai, Deepak........Calgary East ? - Mr. Penson, Charlie...........Peace River G - Mr. Ramsay, Jack............Crowfoot ? - Mr. Solberg, Monte..........Medicine Hat G - Mr. Thompson, Myron....Wild Rose ? - Mr. Williams, John............. St. Albert Total:- 10 GOLD -- YES / 13 ??? - Unknown / 2 FENCE - we do not know 1 - X - meaning NO Let's concentrate on the ???? and F MPs. Address at above URL. Muriel
Thank you for your note. Please be assured that I am in support of all this. Scott Brison, M.P. [Another GOLD CLUB Member - Muriel] -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson [mailto:davidson3542@home.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:07 PM To: Brison.S@parl.gc.ca; davidson3542@home.com; Subject: I like it when you speak up! Hi Scott:- As a CPAC watcher, I am always happy to see you rise and speak on any subject -- only wish more had spoken on Bill C-11 today and the problems facing the miners. Sincerely hope you will be supporting Murray Calder and his Bill C-484 and Jason Kenney's Motion M-160. Even if legislation is passed for census records to be opened, these will not be available to us until 2003, unless the 1906 prairie province ones are opened at once. Will be waiting to hear you speak on that subject!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
I have sent my member Mr.M Belanger of Ottawa East. my thoughts on the Census Campaign also wished him the best after the next Fed. election if he is sussessful. Pete
Muriel I sent a request for more information on how I could obtain a copy of the personal file created by the HRDC two weeks ago and the following is the reply I received today. I don't know any more now than I did then, unless this is what the file is called. Just thought you might find this amusing. Our tax dollars at work. Jim Hope -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Longitudinal Labour Force File Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:02:25 -0400 From: min.hrdc-drhc@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Reply-To: <min.hrdc-drhc@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca> To: <jehope1@home.com> On behalf of the Honourable Jane Stewart, Minister of Human Resources Development, I wish to acknowledge receipt of your correspondence on the Longitudinal Labour Force File. Your request has been forwarded to the Access to Information and Privacy Directorate at the following address, for processing. Human Resources Development Canada Level 1, Phase IV 140 Promenade du Portage Hull, Quebec K1A 0J9 Sincerely =================== How many others have received an answer to their request for personal information as held by HRDC????? I do not have a recent reply, but will let you know when I do. Muriel <davidson3542@home.com>
Many thanks, Gordon. Perhaps all of this personalized heckling of Brer Casey did some good?!? Tom L. ----- Original Message ----- From: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 7, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V00 #165
Hi Ruth. Thanks for clearing this up for me. That is my learning for today. As others may have been as confused as I was I have copied your answer to the CCC list. Thanks also to Mel Andress who sent a similar answer to help clear up my confusion. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Hugh and Ruth Dibbs <hdibbs@intranet.ca> To: Gordon A. WATTS <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Wednesday, 07 June, 2000 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [CCC-L] We are very sorry, John "Pairing" is an arrangement between pairs of MPs who plan to vote on opposite sides of a motion but will be unavoidably absent. Their votes cancel each other out and thus do not affect the final tally. It is considered better than just abstaining or being absent because they have stated their position on the issue. I hope the vote on bill C-206 may not have much impact on the Census Issue. Perhaps this bill was too extreme in accessing information and one concern was that 30 years for the release of information was too short. Certainly all the cabinet ministers and party leaders (I think) were against it. I do fear the resolving census issue may be delayed to after the next election and the collection of the 2001 Census. Ruth Dibbs.
Greetings all. Further to my previous posting regarding debate of M-160 continuing on 6 June 2000. Other business of the House took longer than anticipated (Bill C-11 re: dissolution of Devco) and bumped the scheduled time for the final hour of debate on M-160. Mr. Kenney's office will advise me when this debate is rescheduled however when considering the number of sittings left before the House recesses for the summer it is unlikely this will occur before next fall. When I am notified as to what is happening I will let you know. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm This message has been posted to the Alberta-L, Canada-Census-Campaign-L, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. Permission to forward without notification is granted. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon A. WATTS <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 06 June, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: [CCC-L] Debate on Motion M-160 Greetings All. Jason Kenney's Motion M-160 will receive the third and final hour of debate in the House of Commons at 5:30 PM Ottawa time today, 6 June 2000. While the motion has been deemed votable I am advised by Mr. Kenney's office that the vote will be deferred to a future date because of other pressing business in the House. Motion M-160 calls for the release of the 1911 Census as soon as possible after being brought under the control of the National Archives. While there is no compulsion for the government to act on a positive vote on a Motion, it serves to bring the issue before the House for discussion and provides an indication of how the House feels about a given subject. The debate will be viewable on CPAC. Happy Hunting. ______________________________
Hi Tom. I just caught the tail end of things on CPAC yesterday but it appears that a motion to have second reading of Bill C-206 and for it to go to committee failed. Accessing Hansard this morning I found only 44 MPs voted in favour, with 178 voting against. Four MPs were 'Paired" which is a term I do not fully understand in regards to voting. 95 MPs did not bother to attend the vote. It would appear that not many of our MPs are in favour of making the operation of government more open. While it is debatable if Bill C-206 would have benefited our campaign directly, there was much in it that in my mind was desirable. Your MP, Bill Casey, voted in favour of the Bill. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Lynch <lyncan@col.auracom.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 07 June, 2000 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [CCC-L] We are very sorry, John Could someone please update on what happened to Bill C-206? Also, specifically, how Bill Casey voted? I live less than three blocks from his office here and have been dogging him for the past six months on this issue. However, a thing called work keeps interfering with the census efforts! <G> Tom Lynch in Truro, NS
Could someone please update on what happened to Bill C-206? Also, specifically, how Bill Casey voted? I live less than three blocks from his office here and have been dogging him for the past six months on this issue. However, a thing called work keeps interfering with the census efforts! <G> Tom Lynch in Truro, NS ----- Original Message ----- From: Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 6, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: [CCC-L] We are very sorry, John > To Mr. John Bryden, MP:- > > We are very sorry about the outcome of the vote on Bill C-206. > The safe passage meant a great deal to many of us -- could > it have frightened others? > > Somehow, I feel today was a very bad day in the House of > Commons -- possibly not even THE MEN OF THE DEEP (miners) > would have saved Bill C-11. > > HRDC and its ramifications did not help you -- there is a > connection between this agency and your Bill. > > IF only Members of Parliament could vote with their personal > conscience, not as one person dictates, I feel your Bill would > have passed. > > Please keep in touch, > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > Brampton, ON > 1-905-451-3542 > > ______________________________
My apologies -- due to a very marked-up list of Members of Parliament, I missed three (3):- SCOTT BRISON............Kings-Hants JOHN BRYDEN............Wentworth-Burlington JACK RAMSAY.......... Crowfoot This makes a total of 34 -- let's try to increase that number! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
----Original Message----- From: Prime Minister [mailto:pm@pm.gc.ca] Sent: 06/05/ 2000 10:45 AM To: mandress@uniserve.com Cc: manley.john@ic.gc.ca Subject: Census Dear M.R. Andress: On behalf of the Right Honourable Jean Chrétien, I would like to thank you for your e-mail, in which you raised an issue which falls within the portfolio of the Honourable John Manley, Minister of Industry. The Prime Minister always appreciates receiving correspondence on subjects of importance to Canadians. Please be assured that the statements you made have been carefully reviewed. I have taken the liberty of forwarding your e-mail to Minister Manley so that he too may be made aware of your comments. I am certain that the Minister will give your views every consideration. L.A. Lavell Executive Correspondence Officer Agent de correspondance de la haute direction >>> "Melville R. Andress" <mandress@uniserve.com> 04-06-00 11:42:45 PM >>> Dear Sir: When the votes are all tabulated, may I see your ballot on the 'YES' side? Sincerely, M.R.Andress.
Hi Roz. Bill C-484 is a Private Member's Bill presented to the House of Commons on 2 June by MP Murray Calder. It is word for word identical to Senator Milne's Bill S-15 currently in second reading in the Senate. The URL for C-484 is http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/2/parlbus/chambus/house/bills/private/C-484 /C-484_1/C-484_cover-E.html It is a long URL and in this message will take more than one line. It probably won't be clickable as is although you can try it. Just make sure the whole thing is included when you try to access it. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Griston <r_griston@dccnet.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 06 June, 2000 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [CCC-L] BLUE ????? & GREEN Fences -- D - H what is bill C484? just a quick overview or a url. thanks roz
To all:- This posting will complete the list of Members of Parliament, with much work to be done by those willing to contact them. REQUESTED:- A French language person to write to French language MPs. At present many of these are included in the BLUE ????? list, and this is possibly unfair to them. I will write a sample short letter which could be e-mailed to all French-language Members of Parliament -- please let me know - important! Check: <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> BLUE ????? - 63 plus 143 from previous postings = TOTAL 206 We have to concentrate on these guys and gals! RED X -- 2 (Janko Peric and David Pratt) -- we forget them! GREEN FENCE- sitters:- Pierre Pettigrew Garry Pillitteri Julian Reed John Richardson Lucienne Robillard Svend Robinson Lou Sekora Andrew Telegdi Greg Thompson Judy Wasylycia-Leis Ted White Bryon Wilfert John Williams Delete CHARLIE POWER -- I will contact Loyola Hearn MP A tip of the hat to the GOLD CLUB!! Thank them if you are one of their constituents!!! Pat O'Brien Jack Ramsay John Reynolds (letter received by a writer) Nelson Riis Darrell Stinson Chuck Strahl Myron Thompson Bob Wood Questions to ask:- 1. Do you support and will vote for release of Post-1901 census records? Murray Calder, MP has Bill C-484 - would like to see it passed. My hope is to see only GOLD and RED... no Blue or Green! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html