Hi Muriel and Gordon, We all sit in the wings reading the messages and get the responses ONLY due the two of you. I appreciate your voices in our place and view the comments on the list. Thanks for your efforts and HOURS of concern! Just my opinion folks....no offence PLEASE! Lori-Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:04 AM Subject: [CCC-L] Should YOU be thinking of UNSUBSCRIBING...... > To all listers who may be contemplating UNSUBSCRIBING from the > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > list for any reason > PLEASE........CLIP THE FOLLOWING AND SAVE:- > > I am not the listowner > I cannot unsubscribe you > Send your request to the following, check to see if you are List or > Digest > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L-request@rootsweb.com > In subject line simply type in > UNSUBSCRIBE > If you are Digest mode, change the L to a D > > One person requested me to unsubscribe her, then added at least > 20 inches of memos -- all with my name on them. [I do not mention > names] > > Should anyone get tired of seeing my name or that of Gordon Watts, > we have a suggestion: > Write a memo/letter (whether to praise us or whatever) and sign > your name -- presto! a new name will appear! > > Looking for more NEW postings! Keep letters going to politicians! > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > >
To all listers who may be contemplating UNSUBSCRIBING from the CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com list for any reason PLEASE........CLIP THE FOLLOWING AND SAVE:- I am not the listowner I cannot unsubscribe you Send your request to the following, check to see if you are List or Digest CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L-request@rootsweb.com In subject line simply type in UNSUBSCRIBE If you are Digest mode, change the L to a D One person requested me to unsubscribe her, then added at least 20 inches of memos -- all with my name on them. [I do not mention names] Should anyone get tired of seeing my name or that of Gordon Watts, we have a suggestion: Write a memo/letter (whether to praise us or whatever) and sign your name -- presto! a new name will appear! Looking for more NEW postings! Keep letters going to politicians! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
Greetings All. The MP's Scoreboard and Correspondence Logs on the Post 1901 Census Project website have been updated. In the past week and a half there has been more than 100 changes. Several update files were sent tonight and I expect they will be loaded some time Monday morning. Access the website at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census Check how your MP feels about allowing access to Canada's Post 1901 Census records after 92 years, as allowed under Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. If your MP still has a blue question mark on the Scoreboard it is because he/she has not responded to letters or email asking how they would vote on a Bill to allow access to Post 1901 Census records, or constituents receiving answers have not forwarded them to us. If you have had a response from your MP, stating a position on this question that differs from that shown on the Scoreboard, please forward a copy of that response to me at gordon_watts@telus.net Changes to the Scoreboard include a dated list of totals at the top of the page. With the work done in the past two weeks I have reached the point where I should be able to keep the Scoreboard current with those responses sent to us. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm This message has been posted to the Albert-L, British Columbia, Canada-Census-Campaign-L, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Roots-L, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. Permission to forward without notification is granted.
Greetings all. The total number of subscribers to this list has dropped by several in the past week or so. Those who I have questioned as to the reason indicated mostly that they would be away for reasons such as vacation, etc. and would be re-subscribing on their return home. Hopefully, this would be the reason for all who wish to unsubscribe. Unsubscribing, like subscribing, is normally done automatically, and the address to unsubscribe is different than that to post a message. It also differs depending upon whether you are subscribed in Mail mode, or Digest mode. While I can unsubscribe someone manually, it takes away from the time I have available for other activities, such as updating files for the MP Scoreboard, etc. I prefer that you do it the automated way. If, AFTER FOLLOWING THESE INSTRUCTIONS you have been unsuccessful in getting unsubbed, THEN send a message directly to me. Please be aware of what mode you receive messages in before attempting to unsubscribe. For MAIL mode the address is: Canada-Census-Campaign-L-request@rootsweb.com For DIGEST mode the address is: Canada-Census-Campaign-D-request@rootsweb.com Send a message with ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in both the Subject line and body of the message. DO NOT include ANY other text, such as a signature or reason for unsubbing, in the body of the message. Send the message in Plain Text mode. If you send your UNSUBSCRIBE email to the wrong address for the mode you receive in, you will receive a message that "Your are not subscribed." If this happens try the other address. I am the list administrator. If you have comments or complaints regarding how this list is operated please send a message to me at Canada-Census-Campaign-L-admin@rootsweb.com This list was set up to create a forum for those concerned with obtaining access to Post 1901 Census records in Canada. It was not intended that only myself and a few others post messages. Your comments and questions are not only welcome, but invited. Please feel free to post your messages. There are only two rules for this list -- NO FLAMES, and NO INDIVIDUAL QUERIES OR LOOKUP REQUESTS. Please print and retain this message for future reference. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm
To all who are willing to get rid of the BLUE ?????:- Do not worry that this Session of the House of Commons is over until Monday, September 18, 2000 -- all good politicians have mail sent to them or some form of communication. When he or she is on the homefront (riding) NOW is the time to find out his/her opinion re release of post-1901 census records. When you receive an answer, please let us know so the scoreboard can be updated! Many have asked about Archives files: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html The Scoreboard for Members of Parliament is found at:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm At this site, in another section, you will find petitions to download -- these are still coming for Senator Lorna Milne. Any for Mr. Murray Calder would go to Gordon Watts. Need some great summer reading -- you will need about 100 sheets of paper --THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html This site will remain as coast-to-coast genealogy site AFTER we band together to get the Members of Parliament saying YES!!!! Be an INFORMED WRITER when you write to the ?????, cute little pieces of fence and even the Red X ones. Even if the answer is one or two lines, with name, Gordon Watts needs it for the message section for each Member of Parliament. Take time to study the Scoreboard -- it takes a lot of work and time. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
To all who wish to have the Post-1901 Census Released: YOUR Member of Parliament is likely in your riding at present -- on a three-month vacation. Now is the time to approach him/her and ask the following: QUESTION:- Will YOU, as an elected Member of Parliament, support any Bills and Motions for release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records? The GOLD CLUB totals are not good, concentrate on BLUE ??? as we need to get more people of all parties supporting any Bill or Motion to obtain release of census records. Print the following - then find address and pop-up memo at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Let me know when you receive answers, please. Then changes will be sent to Gordon Watts so he can update the Scoreboard. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Print and read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts ========================================== NEWFOUNDLAND (7) ? - The Hon. Baker, George S. ...Gander--Grand Falls ? - Mr. Byrne, Gerry.............Humber--St. Barbe--Baie Verte G - Mr. Doyle, Norman............St. John's East UNK-Mr. Hearn, Loyola............St. John's West ? - Mr. Matthews, Bill...........Burin--St. George's ? - The Hon. Mifflin, Fred.......Bonavista--Trinity--Conception ? - Mr. O'Brien, Lawrence........Labrador Totals: GOLD tick mark -- means YES .... 1 BLUE ??????? - no answers....... 5 Loyola Hearn has not replied.... Unknown Total...... 7
To all listers:- About two weeks ago, someone who is a member of the list sent a message to me, stating that DIANE ABLONCZY, Member of Parliament from Calgary-Nose Hill, was a GOLD CLUB member. I did ask for the message that gave this information, which Gordon Watts likes to post on the Scoreboard -- NOT all memos are from members of the Canadian Census Committee -- but very often, constituents of the Member of Parliament. Should Diane Ablonczy belong in this status, Alberta will have 11 of the elected members helping Jason Kenney and others along. Please let either Gordon Watts or myself know as he likes updating!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
As CENSUS memos are not allowed by listowners in New Brunswick, anyone reading this is invited to send a letter to them. Two committee members have been copied in, with both English and French language memos available. Nova Scotia is almost all GOLD -- so should New Brunswick. Please write your own memo, so it appears different, but include the URL from Global Genealogy for the scoreboard. Bryan Keddy and I would love it if you added our URL below your name for further information. Have fun!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ======================================================= To all who wish to have the Post-1901 Census Released: QUESTION:- Will YOU, as an elected Member of Parliament, support all Bills and Motions for release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records? The GOLD CLUB totals are not good, concentrate on BLUE ??? as we need to get more people of all parties supporting any Bill or Motion to obtain release of census records. Print the following - then find address and pop-up memo at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Let me know when you receive answers, please. Then changes will be sent to Gordon Watts so he can update the Scoreboard. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ========================================== NEW BRUNSWICK (10) ? - Mr. Bernier, Gilles..........Tobique--Mactaquac F - The Hon. Bradshaw, Claudette..... Moncton - Riverview - Dieppe ? - Mr. Dubé, Jean...............Madawaska--Restigouche F - Mr. Godin, Yvon..............Acadie--Bathurst G - Mr. Herron, John.............Fundy--Royal ? - Mr. Hubbard, Charles.........Miramichi ? - The Hon. Scott, Andy.........Fredericton G - Mr. Thompson, Greg...........New Brunswick Southwest ? - Ms. Vautour, Angela.......... Beauséjour--Petitcodiac ? - Mrs. Wayne, Elsie............Saint John Totals:- X - 0/F - 2/G - 2/? - 6 =================================
UNSCRIBE CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 180 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [CCC-L] M-160 ["Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@te] > #2 [CCC-L] Your letter to Muriel Davi ["Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@te] > #3 [CCC-L] United States to honor 188 ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #4 [CCC-L] NEW BRUNSWICK Scoreboard S ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D, send a message to > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CCC-L] M-160 > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:09:17 -0700 > From: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net> > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > > Greetings All. > > I have just been advised by MP Jason Kenney's office that the third > and final hour of debate on Motion M-160 has been scheduled for 20 > September so we will have a wait to see how the Mp's vote on it. > > Gordon > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CCC-L] Your letter to Muriel Davidson > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:52:10 -0700 > From: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net> > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > > Dear Ms. Ur. > > In a letter to Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson dated 12 June 2000 you made > the following statement: > > "The Privacy Commissioner of Canada has come out four-square against > any release, relying on the current privacy laws, and statements > made by then Prime Minister Wilfred Laurier, who promised residents > of the Prairies (not yet provinces) that their information would be > kept secret." > > Would you kindly advise if you have ever seen any documented > evidence of the "statements" attributed to Sir Wilfred Laurier and > the supposed "promise" of never-ending confidentiality given to > respondents of the 1906 Census of the western provinces. (The > territories of Alberta, Assiniboia, and Saskatchewan became the > provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1905. Bill 6, assented to > 20 July 1905, reflected this by modifying Section 8 of Bill 5 > [Census and Statistics Act] prior to the Census of 1906) > > If you have read my submission to the Expert Panel, titled "The > Myths of Census", the files for which were attached to an email to > you on 24 April 2000, you are aware that I have asked both > Statistics Canada, and Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips to "show > me the promise." To date they have been unable to do so. It is my > position, supported by my research, that the "promise" does not > exist. > > If you have seen documentary evidence of this "promise," please > advise where I might also view it. If the results of my extensive > research are incorrect, I would very much like to see this > documentation. > > Your statement also makes reference to the Privacy Commissioner > "relying on the current privacy laws." I might say that we would be > quite happy if Mr. Phillips, and Statistics Canada, lived up to the > clauses of the Privacy Act and the Regulations thereto. Those > Regulations specifically make provision for name identifiable > information from Census to be placed in the National Archives for > subsequent release for research. > > I look forward to your reply. Thank you. > > Sincerely. > > Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net > Port Coquitlam, BC > ICQ # 9183352 > > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CCC-L] United States to honor 188 buried at Deadman's Island > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:55:39 -0400 > From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > > http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/displaystory?2000/06/17+188.raw+Metro > > To all:- > There have been queries of WHY?, WHO ARE THEY? > > We may never know who is buried at Deadman's Island, Halifax, > Nova Scotia -- but a final tribute is being paid. > > One item of interest:- The ones setting up the ceremony hoped for > a piper to play Amazing Grace -- Nova Scotia has many pipers! > > Also buried there are slaves -- but read it and find out. > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CCC-L] NEW BRUNSWICK Scoreboard Standings > Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:31:44 -0400 > From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > > As CENSUS memos are not allowed by listowners in New Brunswick, > anyone reading this is invited to send a letter to them. > Two committee members have been copied in, with both English > and French language memos available. > Nova Scotia is almost all GOLD -- so should New Brunswick. > > Please write your own memo, so it appears different, but > include the URL from Global Genealogy for the scoreboard. > Bryan Keddy and I would love it if you added our URL > below your name for further information. > > Have fun!! > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > ======================================================= > To all who wish to have the Post-1901 Census Released: > > QUESTION:- Will YOU, as an elected Member of Parliament, > support all Bills and Motions for release of > Post-1901 Canadian Census Records? > > The GOLD CLUB totals are not good, concentrate on BLUE ??? > as we need to get more people of all parties supporting > any Bill or Motion to obtain release of census records. > > Print the following - then find address and pop-up memo at > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm > > Let me know when you receive answers, please. Then changes > will be sent to Gordon Watts so he can update the Scoreboard. > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > ========================================== > NEW BRUNSWICK (10) > ? - Mr. Bernier, Gilles..........Tobique--Mactaquac > F - The Hon. Bradshaw, Claudette..... > Moncton - Riverview - Dieppe > ? - Mr. Dubé, Jean...............Madawaska--Restigouche > F - Mr. Godin, Yvon..............Acadie--Bathurst > G - Mr. Herron, John.............Fundy--Royal > ? - Mr. Hubbard, Charles.........Miramichi > ? - The Hon. Scott, Andy.........Fredericton > G - Mr. Thompson, Greg...........New Brunswick Southwest > ? - Ms. Vautour, Angela.......... > Beauséjour--Petitcodiac > ? - Mrs. Wayne, Elsie............Saint John > > Totals:- X - 0/F - 2/G - 2/? - 6 > ================================= -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/
http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/displaystory?2000/06/17+188.raw+Metro To all:- There have been queries of WHY?, WHO ARE THEY? We may never know who is buried at Deadman's Island, Halifax, Nova Scotia -- but a final tribute is being paid. One item of interest:- The ones setting up the ceremony hoped for a piper to play Amazing Grace -- Nova Scotia has many pipers! Also buried there are slaves -- but read it and find out. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
To all who wish to see the Post-1901 Census Records Released:- Print the following list, then go to this URL for addresses:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm QUESTION:- Do YOU, as an elected Member of Parliament, support any Bills or Motions presented to gain release of the post-1901 Canadian census records for use by the public? As I am from Nova Scotia, I have concentrated on this list, but need some help. Any replies you may receive must be forwarded to me, so I may keep my lists updated -- then we get Gordon Watts working at updating the Members of Parliament Scoreboard. ================================ NOVA SCOTIA (11) G - Mr. Brison, Scott...........Kings--Hants F - Mr. Casey, Bill.............Cumberland--Colchester G - Mrs. Dockrill, Michelle.....Bras d'Or--Cape Breton G - Mr. Earle, Gordon...........Halifax West G - Mr. Keddy, Gerald...........South Shore G - Ms. Lill, Wendy............Dartmouth F - Mr. MacKay, Peter..........Pictou--Antigonish--Guysborough ? - Mr. Mancini, Peter.........Sydney--Victoria G - Ms. McDonough, Alexa........Halifax G - Mr. Muise, Mark.............West Nova ? - Mr. Stoffer, Peter ........Sackville--Musquodoboit Valley--Eastern Shore THOSE "F" AND "?" REALLY STAND OUT, DON'T THEY??? Scoreboard Totals:- GOLD (G) = 7 FENCE (F) = 2 ???????? = 2 X - NO......= 0 TOTAL = 11 =================== For extra information re census, go to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member [formerly from Liverpool, Nova Scotia]
Dear Ms. Ur. In a letter to Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson dated 12 June 2000 you made the following statement: "The Privacy Commissioner of Canada has come out four-square against any release, relying on the current privacy laws, and statements made by then Prime Minister Wilfred Laurier, who promised residents of the Prairies (not yet provinces) that their information would be kept secret." Would you kindly advise if you have ever seen any documented evidence of the "statements" attributed to Sir Wilfred Laurier and the supposed "promise" of never-ending confidentiality given to respondents of the 1906 Census of the western provinces. (The territories of Alberta, Assiniboia, and Saskatchewan became the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1905. Bill 6, assented to 20 July 1905, reflected this by modifying Section 8 of Bill 5 [Census and Statistics Act] prior to the Census of 1906) If you have read my submission to the Expert Panel, titled "The Myths of Census", the files for which were attached to an email to you on 24 April 2000, you are aware that I have asked both Statistics Canada, and Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips to "show me the promise." To date they have been unable to do so. It is my position, supported by my research, that the "promise" does not exist. If you have seen documentary evidence of this "promise," please advise where I might also view it. If the results of my extensive research are incorrect, I would very much like to see this documentation. Your statement also makes reference to the Privacy Commissioner "relying on the current privacy laws." I might say that we would be quite happy if Mr. Phillips, and Statistics Canada, lived up to the clauses of the Privacy Act and the Regulations thereto. Those Regulations specifically make provision for name identifiable information from Census to be placed in the National Archives for subsequent release for research. I look forward to your reply. Thank you. Sincerely. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm
To all:- I wrote to Mr. Peter Mackay when Christopher's Law was passed in Ontario, in memory of Christopher Stephenson. Bill C-7 does not deal with census, I know -- but could affect any of us. I thank Mr. Peter MacKay, MP (Pictou-Antigonish-Guysborough) for presenting this Bill and its safe passage. Hopefully the next memo from Peter will be a large YES for census release. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== June 16, 2000 Mrs. Muriel Davidson davidson3542@home.com Dear Ms. Davidson, Thank you for your correspondence, dated May 11, expressing your support of laws to protect citizens from convicted sex offenders. Bill C-7 (formerly known as Bill C-69) will serve to protect the public upon the release of a pardoned sex-offender from prison. Bill C-7 introduces amendments to the Criminal Records Act that makes the criminal records of pardoned sex offenders available for background checks upon inquiry by interested parties. As Members of Parliament, we need to focus on every available avenue to protect society from sexual predators. Sexual assault is not only an issue of sex; it is an issue of power and control. This is most true when it comes to the disclosure of information to protect those in our society who are most susceptible. I am referring to children who are most vulnerable when exposed to individuals who have been convicted of sexual assaults and may pose a threat of reoffending. The lasting effects on the victims are incalculable in both the long and short term. There is a high rate of recidivism among sex offenders so I was troubled by the potential of unknowing parents leaving their children in the care of a pardoned sex offender. The law had prohibited access to the file of a pardoned sex offender by community organisations or a police department. Bill C-7 provides the necessary protection from pardoned sex offenders by vetting each request and striking a balance between those who have a right to know and the need for confidentiality. It allows access to previously unavailable records of pardoned individuals. As the Progressive Conservative Justice and Solicitor General Critic, I have worked hard to ensure that Bill C-7 received passage through the House of Commons. All Members of the Progressive Conservative Party supported this Bill which helped the legislation pass through the House before last year's summer recess. At the end of 1999, Bill C-7 was returned from the Senate with amendments. The Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs cited concerns that stemmed from a lack of any express reference to the intent of the Bill to pertain to records of pardoned sexual offences. Therefore, the word "sexual" was added to clause 6 of the Bill in order to make it clear that it is only sexual offences that would be flagged under the proposed system. Also, the schedule of sexual offences, along with important terms such as "children" and "vulnerable persons" were removed from the regulations and placed in the bill itself. Moving the schedule of offences into the legislation allows these offences to be subject to parliamentary scrutiny whereas if they remained in the regulations, they would be left to the discretion of the Governor in Council. Finally, the term "handicap" is deleted from the definition of "vulnerable persons." The committee noted that the use of the term "handicap" is no longer acceptable in today's society. It is no longer the practice to use the term in legislation. The Senate feels that these changes to Bill C-7 have ensured a clear, narrow and limited exception to the Criminal Records Act. They feel that these changes respect sections 7 and 8 of our Constitutional Charter to protect privacy. Therefore, they feel that they have maintained the balance between the rehabilitative objectives of the pardon system and the need to protect children and other vulnerable groups in society. The Solicitor General made these changes and Bill C-7 returned to the House of Commons where it passed, with these minor amendments, on February 14, 2000. The Bill then received Royal Assent from the Senate on March 30, 2000 and became law. I feel that this is a good piece of legislation and thus, I was pleased that Parliamentarians put Party differences aside and passed this much-needed legislation. Bill C-7 sends a message that Canadian society will not tolerate offences against children and we will continue to stress the protection of those most vulnerable in our society. Once again, thank you for your interest in this issue and for entrusting this office. Yours truly, Peter G. MacKay, MP PC Party Justice Critic
Greetings All. I have just been advised by MP Jason Kenney's office that the third and final hour of debate on Motion M-160 has been scheduled for 20 September so we will have a wait to see how the Mp's vote on it. Gordon
Dear Ms. Ur. Thank you for your prompt response to my email of 15 June 2000. I am, of course, disappointed that you declined to give a definitive FOR or AGAINST response to the specific question posed to you. On our MP Scoreboard I will be showing you as sitting "on the fence." We are all looking forward to the report of the Expert Panel. I am confident that it will come down in favour of allowing Access to Historic Census as currently allowed under Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Possibly after the report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census (due by the end of June) has come down you will change your mind and give a definitive FOR response to the question. I would be more than happy to change your "fence" to a "gold tick". I look forward to hearing from you after you have read the report of the Expert Panel. Thank you. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Ur, Rose-Marie - M.P. <Ur.R-M@parl.gc.ca> To: 'Gordon A. WATTS' <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Friday, 16 June, 2000 5:55 AM Subject: RE: How will you vote? The Expert Panel appointed by Industry Minister John Manley is due to report on June 30, 2000. It has heard from the Cdn. Historical Assoc., and the Privacy Commissioner, among others. Let's wait and see what the recommendations are, in regard to privacy, etc. and then how the gov't will approach it.
Dear Greg. Thank you for your prompt, positive response to my email of 15 June 2000, and your statement that you would "have no problem voting for any of the Private Member's Bills or Senate Bills concerning the census issue." It is much appreciated. I will be changing your "Fence" on the MP Scoreboard to a "Gold Tick" While I am aware that Murray Calder's Bill C-484 must yet be picked in the draw to be eligible for debate in the House, I would advise that Jason Kenney's Motion M-160 was deemed votable and has received two of the three allotted hours of debate in the House. The third hour of debate was scheduled for last week but was unfortunately bumped because of the extended debate on Bill C-11 - the dissolution of Devco. As things stand now, M-160 will likely not receive it's third hour of debate until the fall. Thank you once again for your support in this matter. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Thompson, Greg - M.P. <Thompson.G@parl.gc.ca> To: 'Gordon A. WATTS' <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Friday, 16 June, 2000 8:54 AM Subject: RE: How will you vote? Dear Gordon As I have already stated to Muriel Davidson who is a friend of mine, I would have no problem voting for any of the Private Member's Bills or Senate Bills concerning the census issue. I understand that Mr. Kenny's Motion and Mr. Calder's Bill have been introduced in the House and have not been picked in the draw and so we have no way of knowing when or if they will become law. Senator Milne's Bill is at second reading we know it will go to committee and have third reading, but have no way of knowing if it will then be moved to the House of Commons or not or even if it will be voted on. Because this process seems to be taking so long I have been in contact on a regular basis with Minister Manley, the Chief Statistician Mr. Fellegi and the Parliamentary Liaison to Stats Can Joanne Beckstead. I am told that the Panel Mr. Manley commissioned to look at this issue will hand its report to the Minister the end of June, the Minister will instruct his departmental officials to look at the report and its recommendations over the summer and in the fall the Minister will address the issue. I am hopeful that this time frame will be kept and that a positive solution will be arrived at. Greg Thompson, M.P.
Dear Charlie Thank you for your prompt response to my email of 15 June 2000. I am, of course, disappointed that you declined to give a definitive FOR or AGAINST response to the specific question posed to you. On our MP Scoreboard I will be showing you as sitting "on the fence." We are all looking forward to the report of the Expert Panel. I am confident that it will come down in favour of allowing Access to Historic Census as currently allowed under Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Possibly after the report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census (due by the end of June) has come down you will change your mind and give a definitive FOR response to the question. I would be more than happy to change your "fence" to a "gold tick". I am pleased that you have made note of my Submission to the Expert Panel. I look forward to hearing from you after you have read their report. Thank you. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Penson, Charlie - M.P. <Penson.C@parl.gc.ca> To: 'Gordon A. WATTS' <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Friday, 16 June, 2000 7:45 AM Subject: RE: How will you vote? Dear Gordon: Thank you for writing about the proposed changes to the Statistics Canada Act that would allow for the release of census records taken after 1901. The information that you provided is appreciated. Prior to developing a position on this, I would like to read the panel's (Expert Panel on Access to Historical Records) recommendations. I have your submission on file and will certainly consider the points that you have made. Best wishes, Charlie Penson, M.P. (Peace River)
Dear Mr. Mills. Thank you for your prompt response to my recent e-mail. I am, of course, disappointed that you declined to give a definitive FOR or AGAINST answer to the specific question asked of you. You are currently shown on our MP Scoreboard as having submitted a non-committal response and thus sitting firmly "on the fence". Unfortunately your present response will not change this. Possibly after the report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census (due by the end of June) has come down you will change your mind and give a definitive FOR response to the question. I would be more than happy to change your "fence" to a "gold tick". In your 12 June 2000 email to Muriel M. Davidson you indicated that "we want to make sure that everything is done within the guidelines of the privacy laws." I would respectfully point out that Regulations attached to the Privacy Act specifically state that information from Census may be released for purposes of research 92 years after collection." As stated in my previous e-mail it is only a policy of Statistics Canada that currently prevents that from happening. It should be obvious from the many thousands of letters and petitions sent to MPs and government officials in the past year that it is the desire of the people that Access to Historic Census 92 years after collection be allowed. I look forward to hearing from you after you have read the report of the Expert Panel. Thank you. Sincerely Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Mills, Dennis - M.P. <Mills.D@parl.gc.ca> To: 'Gordon A. WATTS' <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Friday, 16 June, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: RE: How will you vote? I am in favour of people doing research for family trees, but I also acknowledge those who want information kept private and I believe we need to respect their wishes.
Thank you Mr. Obhrai, for your prompt, positive response to my query. It is much appreciated. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Obhrai, Deepak - M.P. <Obhrai.D@parl.gc.ca> To: 'Gordon A. WATTS' <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Friday, 16 June, 2000 7:25 AM Subject: RE: How will you vote? OTTAWA June 16, 2000 Dear Mr. Watts, Thank you for your email sent earlier today concerning the census release. I can understand your frustration in not receiving a proper response. Let me assure you that I will be voting FOR a bill supporting the release to the Public of Post 1901 Census Records. I understand the importance of having resources available for research especially for such a difficult task such as present and future family history researches. Many of my constituents have voiced their concerns over this issue and I support them. Warm regards, Deepak Obhrai, MP Calgary East
Greetings All. For those who missed it the first time on 30 January, the Undercurrents program on Selling the Census will be repeated this Sunday, 18 June 2000, on CBC-TV. I think the time is 10:30 PM Vancouver time. Gordon