(crest) House of Commons Chambre des Communes Canada June 29, 2000 Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson Canadian Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Dear Mrs. Davidson: Thank you for your correspondence dated June 22, 2000. Since the subject of your letter deals with the post-1901 census, I took the liberty of forwarding your letter to Jim Jones, M.P. for Markham, Ontario who is our Statistic Canada critic in the House of Commons. I am sure that Mr. Jones will be very interested in your views. Please know that I continue to support the need to have the census information made available to the public. Once again thank you for your letter and feel free to contact my office if you require any further information. Sincerely, Gilles Bernier, M.P. Tobique-Mactaquac P.O. Box/C.P. 2353, 182B Portage, Grand Falls/Grand-Sault, NB E3Z 1E5 Tel: (506) 473-1428/Fax: (506) 473-1922/<tobmacmp@nbnet.nb.ca> P.O. Box /C.P. 2328. 104-633 Main, Woodstock, NB E7M 2C6 Tel: (506) 328-4518/Fax: (506) 328-4553/<woodmp@nbnet.nb.ca> 466 West Block, House of Commons, Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 Tel: (613) 947-4431/Fax: (613) 947-4434/<bernig@parl.gc.ca> ============================================= The area of Grand Falls, Woodstock, Tobique and Mactaquac is one I enjoy visiting - it is beautiful, an area to be remembered! Many thanks to Mr. Gilles Bernier, MP for his positive YES -- he knows we like to keep Gordon Watts working!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee

(crest) House of Commons Chambre des Commons Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6 June 28, 2000 Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Dear Mrs. Davidson:- I am writing on behalf of the Honourable David M. Collennette to acknowledge receipt and thank you for your letter of June 12, 2000, sent by electronic mail, in which you express your views regarding post-1901 census records. The Minister appreciates having the benefit of your comments on this issue. I have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of your correspondence to your Member of Parliament for Brampton Centre, Mr. Sarkis Assadourian, so that he too may have the benefit of your comments. Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to the Minister. Yours sincerely, Anthony Polci Special Assistant c.c.: Sarkis Assadourian, M.P. Brampton Centre HON. DAVID M. COLLENNETTE, P.C., M.P. DON VALLEY EAST Constituency:- 300-1200 Lawrence Ave. E., Don Mills, ON M3A 1C2 Tel: (416) 447-5544 Fax: (416) 447-5587 Ottawa:- Room 104, East Block, House of Commons, Ottawa K1A 0A6 Tel: (613) 995-4988; Fax: (613) 995-1688; <colled@parl.gc.ca> ========================================== I have already phoned the Don Mills office -- too many assistants replying for the ones who have been elected. Hopefully the assistant will find THE MYTHS OF CENSUS or print it from http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html As for my Member of Parliament, he knows my views, has a GOLD tick! Looking forward to a short personal note from The Hon. David Collennette. He likely does not know that nearly all PCs have replied! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm [To be printed before the next federal election]

Many thanks, Beverly -- I sincerely hope we find an answer. The poem is beautiful -- reflects our thoughts! Muriel <davidson3542@home.com> =============================== I came across a poem my mom had written out, I do not know who wrote it. She wrote some poetry as well but I would hesitate to say she wrote this because I don't know. I thought I would share it because it seems to fit genealogy and maybe some one may know who wrote it. This is my Tree This is my tree and it branches one by one This is my tree, I know it can survive And through the years it grew so tall It touched the sky and did escape the hand of man This is my tree, I know it can survive This is my rock, I lied upon it yesterday Tis is my rock, I know it can survive And through the years it grew so smooth The touch of it , the severed hand, the scheme This is my rock, I know it can survive This is my stream, I followed it so faithfully This is my stream, I know it can survive And throught the years it seemed to flow so aimlessly And gentlyturned and took me home This is my stream, I know it can survive This is my land, I reach out and I prayed for her This is my land, I know it can survive And through the years she trembled on sound of guns And was so ravaged by machines And still she stands, she can, she can survive This is my child, she reaches for bitter treat This is my child, I hpe she can survive And golden years may scar her heart and soul on earth Then she will smile and go her own way This is my child, I know she can survive. ==== CAN-SASKATCHEWAN Mailing List ==== Thank you for sharing your information. It's nice folks like you that make the genealogy world so wonderful. Please don't send mail that isn't directly related to genealogy. ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

July 5, 2000 Ms. Kim McLean mac@x5ca.net Dear Ms. McLean: Thank you for your e-mail of May 29th, expressing your views about Bill C-206. Bill C-206, introduced by John Bryden, M.P., was a private member's bill. It was voted on at the end of debate on second reading on June 6th. The motion that it be approved for second reading and referred to a committee for further study was defeated by a vote of 178 to 44. Here are some concerns about this bill: RELEASE OF INFORMATION AFTER 30 YEARS First, I am concerned that privacy or confidentiality of personal information, including personal income tax returns, would not be made certain by Mr. Bryden's proposed amendment to Section 4(2.1). Also, Mr. Bryden's amendment would not prevent the release of other sensitive information, such as trade secrets, Statistics Canada data, sensitive business data, location of historical/archival sites and solicitor-client protected information. PATENT APPLICATIONS AND THIRD PARTY COMMERCIAL INFORMATION I am also concerned about the impact of Mr. Bryden's proposed clause 20(1) on the exchange of information between government and business. Mr. Bryden's proposed clause 20(1) means that third party commercial information may be disclosed in the public interest at the discretion of the government institution. Our concern is that if disclosure is discretionary, businesses may be reluctant to provide sensitive commercial information to government institutions, and this would likely result in a chill effect in dealings between businesses and the government. ELIMINATE SCHEDULE II Mr. Bryden's proposal to eliminate Schedule II in its entirety is also of concern. A complete and wholesale revocation of the protection in this schedule might result in unintended and undesirable disclosures and harm. I believe it is much preferable to consider this issue in connection with a statute-by-statute review of those acts listed in Schedule II, so that the specific effect in each case can be assessed. It is not clear to us that an injury test should be applied to all the confidentiality clauses listed in Schedule II. Finally, the operational impact on government agencies of the injury test has not been assessed. I hope my comments are of interest to you. I remain, Yours sincerely, THE HON. HERB GRAY, M.P. /cr Windsor West =========================================== Many thanks for forwarding the letter, Kim! I wonder when this man will catch up with the times!!! And he is our Deputy Prime Minister. Anyone wishing to write: The Hon. Herb Gray <GrayHO@parl.gc.ca> Let me know of any up-to-date responses. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee

Hi Sharon. As of last night I have seen nothing on the StatCan website about the report of the Expert Panel. Will be contacting them today to see what is happening. Just got back from Calgary so will take me a bit to get up to scratch on everything. Gordon. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Sergeant <sharon_sergeant@yahoo.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 04 July, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: [CCC-L] Still no expert panel report? Hello, Did I miss a posting of info about the release of the report or is it still pending? thanks Sharon http://bostonstates.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

Many thanks, Rick and Valerie! I sincerely hope Janko Peric, MP, is comfortable with his large RED X - already on the Scoreboard. Regardless of whether he is writing to a constituent or to someone else, I wonder if he would read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS if the book was opened and placed in front of him. All Members of Parliament received copies from Gordon Watts. THE SCOREBOARD WILL BE PUBLISHED PRIOR TO THE NEXT ELECTION and there are many voters, in Cambridge and elsewhere, who are family researchers. Anyone in CAMBRIDGE, Ontario willing to write to Janko Peric? Thanks for trying. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee Rick and Valerie wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peric, Janko - M.P. <Peric.J@parl.gc.ca> > To: 'Rick and Valerie' <rickval@vianet.on.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 3:09 PM > Subject: Correspondence > > Dear Rick and Valerie, > This is to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail. > In order to manage the ever increasing amount of correspondence I receive > through the e-mail, a response will be provided only to those who provide > me with their mailing address and who reside in the riding of Cambridge. > Thank you. > Janko Peric, MP > Cambridge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick and Valerie [mailto:rickval@vianet.on.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 6:48 PM > To: Peric.J@parl.gc.ca > Subject: > > I and thousands of other people are in search of our roots and it is with > deep pride and admiration that we find information on these people who > were so proud to come to Canada and help to make it what it is today. > I can not understand the reason that these records might not be made > public, I can only see the benefits. I hope that you will consider aiding > in the release of these documents to the National Archives. I feel like we > and the generations to come could only benefit by this information. > Thank You for reading my thoughts on the subject . > QUESTION:- > Will YOU, as an elected Member of Parliament, > support any Bills and Motions for release of > census to National Archives as presented > in House of Commons? > > [Present duplicate Bills: S-15, Senator Lorna Milne, in Senate; > C-484, Mr. Murray Calder, in the House; Motion M-160 by Jason > Kenney on Sept. 20 in the House of Commons. > > All replies to be forwarded to <davidson3542@home.com> > > Regards > > Valerie Dungey Lacroix > **************Researching************* > Gilbert/Schinbein/Kerr/Ellis/Hood > Dungey/Cauthers/Robbins/Haines > Lacroix/Lariviere/David/Blais > Peddie/Morgan/Hepenstal/Styles > > http://www.thehungersite.com> >

Many thanks for replying!!! As I am from Brampton, Ontario, and a daily CPAC watcher, my husband and I are always interested when we see her. By the way, my husband is the MISTER, not I. Did you receive THE MYTHS OF CENSUS sent by Gordon Watts to all Members of Parliament -- one fellow printed it, then looked around his office and found it. It is printable from: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html The extensive research in this article will help Ms. Sgro make up her mind -- whether she wants a pretty GOLD tick (YES), a RED X (NO) or an uncomfortable piece of fence. Also we would like a few words from Ms. Sgro if she will SUPPORT any Bills or Motions to obtain release of post-1901 Canadian census records. Any messages from Members of Parliament are posted at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Just click on the name of the Minister of Parliament. Looking forward to a reply from Judy Sgro, MP. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee Brampton, Ontario "Sgro, Judy - M.P." wrote: > Mr. Davidson, > > On behalf of Ms. Sgro, I would like to point out that we did not receive any > letters concerning this issue. Perhaps this is attributed to the fact that > they have do not have the correct spelling of Ms. Sgro's name and hence the > wrong e-mail address. I will forward this issue to Ms. Sgro as soon as > possible. > > If you have any questions or need assistance, please do not hesitate to > contact our office directly at 613-992-7774 or 416-952-1677. > > Office of Judy Sgro > > -----Original Message----- > From: Muriel M. Davidson [mailto:davidson3542@home.com] > Sent: June 12, 2000 12:17 AM > To: Sgro.J@parl.gc.ca; davidson3542@home.com; Kenney.J@parl.gc.ca; > Calder.M@parl.gc.ca; Lorna Milne : SEN > Subject: I Believe There Must Be GOLD in ONTARIO > > Good Morning Judy:- > > I am looking at that BLUE ? beside your name on the > Scoreboard for Members of Parliament re census. > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm > The ? stands for "Ones who did not reply to letters" > > Personally, I would like to see ONTARIO, where I live, > have all Members of Parliament with GOLD ticks - meaning > YES -- when the scoreboard is published prior to the next > election -- it is being updated now. > > At present 73 of the 101 ONTARIO Members of Parliament > have NOT answered any letters!!! > > QUESTION:- Will YOU, as an elected Member of Parliament > support ALL Bills and Motions presented in the House of > Commons for release of Post-1901 Canadian census records > to the National Archives? > > WILL YOU VOTE FOR US -- YOUR CONSTITUENTS?? > > Presently we have Murray Calder's Bill C-484, Jason Kenney's > Motion M-160, and Senator Lorna Milne has S-15, duplicate > of C-484, has had second reading in the Senate. > The census records are safe at National Archives - legislation > needed for release. > > Will you send me a short note telling me you agree to release > of census records -- let's get rid of that ? > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > Print and read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

Hello, Did I miss a posting of info about the release of the report or is it still pending? thanks Sharon http://bostonstates.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

.....Weeks before first dossiers from defunct database to go out By VALERIE LAWTON Ottawa Bureau OTTAWA--The federal government has been swamped with 55,000 requests from Canadians who want to see their personal files from the now-defunct "Big Brother" database. And officials at the Human Resources department said yesterday it will be weeks yet before a single file will be sent out. "It's taken a while," acknowledged spokesperson Daniel Lavoie. "We spent a lot of time ensuring we could protect people's privacy. We don't want to mix files." Human Resources Minister Jane Stewart pulled the plug on the massive database tracking the lives of 33 million ordinary Canadians at the end of May. The decision came just weeks after the federal privacy commissioner went public with his concerns about the so-called Longitudinal Labout Force File. The database includes as many as 2,000 pieces of information about individual Canadians, including their education, marital status, ethnic origin, disabilities, income tax, employment and social assistance history. The deluge of requests for personal files began immediately after privacy commissioner Bruce Phillips revealed the databank's existence. He and other critics said the database was an invasion of privacy and could be misused. Phillips warned it was "tantamount to a citizen profile." Providing the individual files has been complicated by the fact the database--essentially a series of databases connected by software-- has already been dismantled. That means officials will have to pull information from numerous separate databanks to recreate the original files. Lavoie said the department hopes the first personal files will be ready to go out within four weeks. It could take from eight to 12 weeks to complete the work, he said. At the time Stewart announced the dismantling of the database, she also said her department would: --Establish rules for future research projects where information from separate databases is linked. Future linkages will be considered "case by case" by a committee that will seek advice from the privacy commissioner. --Report annually to Canadians about how it uses personal information in research and policy analysis. --Recommend legal protections, including penalties, for information collected from Canadians for use by Human Resources. --Speak to provincial governments about whether they want to continue sharing their data. (There is no information-sharing agreement with Ontario or Quebec.) ======================================= Thought many would appreciate the above. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee

To all Non-Canadians:- Your assistance in our post-1901 census release "fight" is greatly appreciated -- your petitions are welcomed by Senator Lorna Milne - who has had second reading of her Bill S-15 in the Senate. The latest petition came from New Bern, North Carolina -- the sender must have known I liked beautiful stamps -- this one is, I believe, the American side of Niagara Falls. To download petitions in either Word or WordPerfect, go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petitions.htm The Non-Canadian are in English only, whereas the ones for Canada are in the country's two languages - English & French. Senator Milne welcomes the many petitions -- whether small or large -- they all add up! Looking for more mail! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee

To all who are willing to get rid of the BLUE ?????:- Do not worry that this Session of the House of Commons is over until Monday, September 18, 2000 -- all good politicians have mail sent to them or some form of communication. When he or she is on the homefront (riding) NOW is the time to find out his/her opinion re release of post-1901 census records. When you receive an answer, please let us know so the scoreboard can be updated! Many have asked about Archives files: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html The Scoreboard for Members of Parliament is found at:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm At this site, in another section, you will find petitions to download -- these are still coming for Senator Lorna Milne. Any for Mr. Murray Calder would go to Gordon Watts. Need some great summer reading -- you will need about 100 sheets of paper --THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html This site will remain as coast-to-coast-to-coast genealogy site AFTER we band together to get the Members of Parliament saying YES!!!! [Only GOLD and RED wanted in the future!!] Be an INFORMED WRITER when you write to the ?????, cute little pieces of fence and even the Red X ones. Even if the answer is one or two lines, with name, Gordon Watts needs it for the message section for each Member of Parliament. Take time to study the Scoreboard -- it takes a lot of work and time. There will be a NEW LOOK shortly! Believe it or not, I received an e-mail with one word YES and have also received positive telephone calls - let us know! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

As sent by Adele Turner to the National Post:- To the Editor: I am one of Canada's ordinary citizens that has, in the past, allowed MP's and Government officials to make decisions on my behalf without taking time to make written or verbal complaint about any issues. I felt that it would be a waste of time as no one really cares about one person's opinion. However, on this important issue, I felt I should at least try. I don't want to be accepting of any ruling of "BURN THE POST 1901 CENSUS" as such a decision could have dire consequences for all family historians whose family may have stayed or passed our shores both now and in the future. Somehow, we must put a stop to the "railroading" techniques that have worked in the past by government officials and lawmakers to get amendments and laws passed by the House of Commons and the Senate. It would be my great wish that our national newspapers would do more research and investigative reporting. Articles would not be printed as fact when they aren't factual at all. It is my opinion, when you quoted in the article, (Keep Census Data Secret Public Tells Ottawa. - by Jim Bronskill. Ottawa - Canadians reject the idea of releasing historical Census - NP 20 June 2000, p. A11) it was a quotation directly from the Expert Panel's survey carried out by Environics Research without your newspaper asking, "What were the questions asked by the Focus groups?" "How where they worded?" "Did any of the questions quote the imaginary "Promise"?. Also, can you tell me if your newspaper has researched the Government publication "Hansard" from 1906 to 1911? If someone had, you would have found that the imaginary "promise" that keeps getting quoted was a figment of someone's imagination. See the article by Gordon Watts entitled, THE MYTHS OF THE CENSUS at http://GlobalGazette.net/gazce/gazce53.htm It would be my wish that you would publish the piece by Gordon Watts entitled "The Myths of the Census" so that all Canadians can benefit from both sides of the argument instead of getting a distorted view from your article date June 20,2000 by Jim Bronskill. Adele Turner North Vancouver, B.C.

To all:- Very possibly writing letters is not your way to assist -- but PETITIONS is another very necessary way! Go to the following URL: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm The PETITION MENU is varied -- you will be able to choose which one you wish to download -- all are 3 pages, and you might have to adjust the margins just a bit. Addresses are on the PETITIONS -- ones to the House of Commons go to Gordon Watts, 1455 Delia Drive, Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 I accept all PETITIONS for the Senate of Canada that are not mailed directly to the Senate, also the Petition of Support for those Living Outside of Canada. PETITIONS are in two favorites, Word (.doc) and WordPerfect (.wpd) Text is also available from <gordon_watts@telus.net> HOUSE OF COMMONS Petitions has both English and French versions. THE SENATE OF CANADA Petitions also has English and French NON-CANADA Petition is in English only. REQUEST:- Should you have guests from United States, they MUST sign the Non-Canada version -- do NOT combine Canadian and American or other signatures on the same petition. (It could be refused at Senate). I have been receiving petitions at the rate of one a day, both from Canada and United States --- keep them coming, please! The Meaning of Petitions:- WE cannot be there in person, but OUR signature can be. This is vacation time -- carry one with you!!! Great for campground fires! Any problem? Contact me, please as Gordon is away for a couple days. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member Print and read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

To all:- Many have asked what I meant by THE MYTHS OF CENSUS, available for printing (minus copyright material) at the following URL:- http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html or http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml There are SIX main MYTHS OF CENSUS:- 1. There was a PROMISE made by the government of Sir Wilfred Laurier that confidentiality of Census was FOREVER. 2. Respondents to Census were TOLD about this PROMISE. 3. The Census of 1906 was the first in which Rules and Regulations relating to Census and Statistics were subject to the "force of law". The process by which secrecy of name- identifiable Census records coming under the "force of law" was a deliberate, well thought out result of the legislative process. 4. Release of name-identifiable information in the distant future was a reason for confidentiality concerns of respondents to Census. 5. A MAJOR INTENT of early Census legislation was to ensure that Schedules of Census containing name-identified information would NEVER be available for future historical or genealogical research. 6. Without confidentiality that lasts forever, respondents will be reluctant to fill out Census or will not respond truthfully. ========================================= A personal note or two:- Years ago, my grandfather listed all answers he gave on various census records, told me they would be available for me in later years. He was a proud, family type of man -- wish he would be here to add his two cents' worth today! My aunt was born in 1902, still hale and hearty -- lives in a nursing home in Liverpool, Nova Scotia. She told me she can remember the excitement her parents enjoyed filling out the first Canadian census records -- for them -- they came from Maine in 1908. Her comment to me today was "The politicians have it all wrong". An invitation to everyone:- Print the researched data that Gordon Watts found and his reasons for above six MYTHS OF CENSUS. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee

you're not alone muriel and gordon..i'm just bogged down with kids getting out of school and making some breakthru's on research in england..thanks to the censuses. i will be forwarding info regarding what england will be doing with their 1901 census and it preparation to put it all on line. maybe canada could take a few lessons from its mother. roz. -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson [SMTP:davidson3542@home.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:16 AM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC-L] THIS & THAT To all members of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list:- Where is everybody? Very possibly, you all read the posted items, but how often do YOU contribute. (I am tired of seeing my name there -- there needs to be a few more contributors). Should you be interested, here are a few items to research:- Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html Gordon Watts has done a fantastic job with the Scoreboard at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Find YOUR Member of Parliament -- will likely be one with a Blue ? as there are many who have not replied. We have found MPs reply to those of their own riding -- as they would like to be re-elected. As of June 28, 2000 (with more changes to follow):- YES (Gold tick).. = 67 (read the messages received from them) NO (Red X)......... = 5 (Some have been studying and are changing) Undecided (F) = 52 (this includes our Prime Minister) Not heard from = 177 I do not have the totals of listers, nor the names of those belong to the list but the 177 tells me there should be ONE person for each lister to write to, asking support for ANY Bills or Motions re post-1901 Census. Courtesy of Jeannine Ouellet, there have been French language memos sent -- but anyone may write to his/her Member of Parliament. Suggest to the Member of Parliament they look around the office and find the copy of THE MYTHS OF CENSUS sent to each one by Gordon Watts - with a CD available if they request it. (One MP printed off the whole 100 pages -- then found the envelope) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [This site celebrates its FIRST BIRTHDAY today - Thanks, Bryan!] For those in the three prairie provinces, MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling, Alberta barrister, should be read -- the 1906 census SHOULD have been available in 1998: http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml To add a more frightening tone to census, the standings of the Senate are: Liberals = 59; Progressive Conservative = 39; Independent = 5, a total of 103. By Liberals dominating the Senate, any census bill or motion could be turned DOWN as they all vote alike -- the Clarity Bill C-20 was voted in, with many bad sections, by a "loaded" Senate. So -- to all researchers who want the 1906 and 1911 census and others, let's get busy -- a few of us cannot do it for you!!!! We have tried -- but we find many ASSISTANTS replying with OLD information provided by Statscan, Fellegi, etc. Gordon is away until July 7th -- let's get moving on this, PLEASE!!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre riding!

To all members of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list:- Where is everybody? Very possibly, you all read the posted items, but how often do YOU contribute. (I am tired of seeing my name there -- there needs to be a few more contributors). Should you be interested, here are a few items to research:- Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN.html Gordon Watts has done a fantastic job with the Scoreboard at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Find YOUR Member of Parliament -- will likely be one with a Blue ? as there are many who have not replied. We have found MPs reply to those of their own riding -- as they would like to be re-elected. As of June 28, 2000 (with more changes to follow):- YES (Gold tick).. = 67 (read the messages received from them) NO (Red X)......... = 5 (Some have been studying and are changing) Undecided (F) = 52 (this includes our Prime Minister) Not heard from = 177 I do not have the totals of listers, nor the names of those belong to the list but the 177 tells me there should be ONE person for each lister to write to, asking support for ANY Bills or Motions re post-1901 Census. Courtesy of Jeannine Ouellet, there have been French language memos sent -- but anyone may write to his/her Member of Parliament. Suggest to the Member of Parliament they look around the office and find the copy of THE MYTHS OF CENSUS sent to each one by Gordon Watts - with a CD available if they request it. (One MP printed off the whole 100 pages -- then found the envelope) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [This site celebrates its FIRST BIRTHDAY today - Thanks, Bryan!] For those in the three prairie provinces, MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling, Alberta barrister, should be read -- the 1906 census SHOULD have been available in 1998: http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml To add a more frightening tone to census, the standings of the Senate are: Liberals = 59; Progressive Conservative = 39; Independent = 5, a total of 103. By Liberals dominating the Senate, any census bill or motion could be turned DOWN as they all vote alike -- the Clarity Bill C-20 was voted in, with many bad sections, by a "loaded" Senate. So -- to all researchers who want the 1906 and 1911 census and others, let's get busy -- a few of us cannot do it for you!!!! We have tried -- but we find many ASSISTANTS replying with OLD information provided by Statscan, Fellegi, etc. Gordon is away until July 7th -- let's get moving on this, PLEASE!!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre riding!

To all:- The elected Members of Parliament have another "vacation" , known as the summer break -- from today until September 18, 2000. That is a period of THREE (3) months -- lots of time to visit your MP! When your elected Member of Parliament is in his/her riding, plan to visit YOUR Member - even if just to introduce yourself. Above all, you WOULD like to know his/her census thoughts, wouldn't you?. Go to <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Check to see if YOUR Member of Parliament has a pretty GOLD tick mark (means YES), a RED "X" that means NO, or a BLUE QUESTION MARK. The blue question mark means he/she did not care enough to answer your letter. Your Member of Parliament works at your expense -- and for you --should he/she be in possession of a BLUE X, plan to visit! The GREEN piece of fence means just that -- neither YES or NO! Prepare a letter as if you would be mailing it, complete with name of riding and any title. Either call the riding office to see when your MP is in the office -- or take a chance. By putting the letter (in an envelope) into his/her hand, preferably in front of witnesses, there will be no question the letter was not received. Above all, you would like to query your Member's view re census records release. To prepare yourself, read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Let us know of any happy outcome -- and should you receive a reply, we would like to know his/her comments. Many have not sent this to us and Gordon Watts, Keeper of the Scoreboard, needs this information BEFORE AN ELECTION -- it will be published! A letter can be typed on a computer (save to disk), or by hand but let your Member of Parliament know YOU expect a positive response when there is mention of census release. Should you prefer to mail your letter, postage is FREE Name & Riding / House of Commons / Parliament Buildings / Ottawa, Ontario KIA OA6. Happy writing!!! Keep the petitions coming!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Brampton, Ontario Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and Read: THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts - may be printed http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

To all who like to go searching and seeking new things:- Try http://www.statcan.ca -- in the Census paragraph, click on location. When the blank boxes came up, I typed in Summerville Centre and clicked on Nova Scotia -- I found I was born in Queens County -- and was even provided with a map. I will admit, possibly only present day names may be found. Try it -- as for Census, there were several listings, including 2001 Questions, and 1996 information - must have Adobe Reader. Enjoy! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To the Right Hon. Jean Chretien:- I am looking at the Canadian Census Committee MPs Scoreboard as I type this -- noting that you still have a piece of GREEN FENCE beside your name. Check:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm All memos sent to you receive a standard reply -- "forwarded to John Manley, Minister of Industry" -- it is YOUR opinion writers wish to hear when they ask about release of post-1901 census. By now, John Manley's office must be overflowing as Members of Parliament, as you do, use this excuse and send more pieces of paper to him. Canadians elected the Members of Parliament and HOPE he/she will be ALLOWED to speak as they feel their constituents would like them to do. A prime example of this is Bill C-11. Many Canadians have become CPAC watchers, the internet is a swift mode of transportation for any messages. Opinions are passed from coast to coast daily, re the House of Commons. We do this as a defence system -- our elected ones are not allowed to speak for themselves! Mr. Chretien, how will YOU vote re Bill C-484 - if YES, that will change your Fence-Sitters GREEN Fence to a GOLD tick mark. Should you wish to refresh your memory about CENSUS happenings, a well-researched book, THE MYTHS OF CENSUS was sent to your office, written by Mr. Gordon Watts. It is printable from: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Also MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling, Alberta barrister http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml I would not like you to be UNINFORMED when it was time to vote, and I feel, like all Canadians, we elect our MPs to vote for us. Also, the Scoreboard is being published before the next election. Please answer honestly from YOUR office -- there is no need to send more paper to John Manley's office! I often wonder if he has an office plus a huge storage place!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee chairman Brampton Centre riding.

Subject: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:38:47 -0400 From: "Nystrom, Lorne - M.P." <Nystrom.L@parl.gc.ca> To: "'bryanfkeddy@ns.sympatico.ca'" <bryanfkeddy@ns.sympatico.ca> As an elected Member of the House of Commons of the Parliament of Canada, I would vote FOR a Bill supporting release to the Public, of Post 1901 Census Records, 92 years after they were recorded. Lorne Nystrom, MP Regina-Qu'Appelle