To all who like other genealogies:- The following list of sites are only a few of the many posted at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html During the past few weeks, Bryan Keddy has updated the entire list -- some were out of date, others had changed addresses. There should be no problems with any of the following. The present count is 15,835 --- let's try for 16,000!!! Bookmark this site please -- it will remain as your Coast-to-Coast-to-Coast Canadian Genealogical Site. Hopefully the present Census Release problem will be solved through legislation, and then Bryan and I will be able to add more sites for your pleasure. Enjoy the many postings!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ===================================== CANADIAN EH ? 100% CANADIAN HALIFAX COUNTY GEN WEB HALIFAX MAINLAND SOUTH HERITAGE SOCIETY SIMCOE COUNTY GEN WEB - ONTARIO NFLD./LABRADOR GEN MAILING LIST NEW BRUNSWICK HISTORY =======================

To all:- May be of interest, especially in light of current Canadian Census release controversy....... Wayne Scott =================== The following is an excerpt from Dick Eastman's Weekly Genealogy Newsletter available online from Ancestry.com NOTE: The following database is NOT YET online but will be sometime this fall. I have seen demostrations of the Heritage Quest Census scans and they are great. ENTIRE 1790-1920 U.S. CENSUS TO BE AVAILABLE ONLINE SOON One of the dreams of genealogists is about to come true: the ability to view any or all of the original census records by using a home computer. You no longer need to travel to a distant library or Family History Center during the hours they are open. Soon you will be able to view the same images at any hour of the day or night while comfortably seated at home. This isn't the first online census database. A few smaller such databases have already appeared. However, these were quite small in comparison, featuring only the 1790 records or census records of particular cities or counties for a few years. Now SierraHome and their rather newly acquired Heritage Quest division have announced that they will be placing all the U.S. Census records online, from 1790 through 1920. Best of all, this database will contain actual images of the original records in the enumerators' handwriting. Such records are much more accurate than the more error-prone transcriptions made by clerk typists. One fact about this new database that fascinates me is its size: It will be about 3.5 terabytes on the day it launches, making it the largest single database on the Internet. (A terabyte is 1,000 gigabytes or one million megabytes.) The database is expected to grow to 10 terabytes as more data is added. Here is an extract from the announcement from Generations and Heritage Quest: GenealogyDatabase.com The World's Largest Online Family History Resource Breaking News -- What's the Scoop? This fall, SierraHome's Generations brand and Heritage Quest will be launching GenealogyDatabase.com with the very first online collection of all U.S. Census images from 1790 - 1920. (1920 was the last year released to the public because of the 72-year waiting period. The 1930 census will be released on April 1, 2002.) Heritage Quest is also working on indexes for each year, and has already completed 1790, 1800 and 1870. This is a monumental step forward for online genealogy resources and will be of great interest to serious genealogy enthusiasts and newbies alike. The census is widely regarded as the most important primary source for tracing one's family heritage. GenealogyDatabase.com will be the largest collection of primary source documents on the Web, many of which will be searchable through Heritage Quest's painstaking efforts to extract the names into indexes which link directly to the digitally enhanced image pages. GenealogyDatabase.com will also be accessible through HeritageQuest.com and SierraHome.com. The site will be subscription-based, comparable to other genealogy sites currently online. We will update you on the pricing model when it becomes available. The most important thing to keep in mind is that GenealogyDatabase.com will be the ONLY site offering the entire collection of U.S. Federal Census images for people to access from the comfort of home. JUST HOW BIG IS THIS? The sheer magnitude of the site is newsworthy in its own right; it will be the world's largest known web-enabled database. We will be posting approximately 3.5 terabytes of images and data at launch, with a goal of 10 terabytes of Heritage Quest resources being posted in the foreseeable future. To put things in perspective, Microsoft's famed Terrabase Server of spy satellite images is 1.5 terabytes. In July 1999, Nature Magazine estimated the basic data in the entire World Wide Web to constitute roughly 15 terabytes, so this site is breaking new ground both in terms of size and importance to family history enthusiasts everywhere. The Census data alone is the equivalent of 12,555 rolls of microfilm and sells for $250,000. There will be 10 million images of Census pages at launch, representing more than 500 million Americans. Heritage Quest is committed to indexing new names at the astounding rate of 500,000 per week! ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT? Furthermore, we intend to make this a living Web community. One feature we're working on for the site will be a "sticky note" technology where members can leave messages behind for others looking at the same page of the census. Keep in mind that census entries were done door-to-door, meaning that families listed on the same census page were neighbors. Many genealogists believe it's essential to research in clusters, since people simply didn't move as often or as far back in the 18th and 19th centuries. GenealogyDatabase.com members can leave behind messages requesting information, pictures, or even correct errors that they know to exist on that particular census page. NOTE: This "sticky note" technology will not be available at launch, so genealogists should check back because we will be adding new names and features each week once the site launches! With a site this huge, we will be introducing new innovations in stages. GIVE ME THE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS! At launch, GenealogyDatabase.com will offer: * Digital images of the U.S. Census from 1790 - 1920. * The most accurate indexes for the years 1790, 1800, and 1870, which will let site members type in the names of ancestors and link directly to the digital images of handwritten census pages. (Keep in mind that these are fresh extractions of the census. It was determined that existing indexes were filled with errors, which was unacceptable to us. Heritage Quest has recently completed fresh extractions of these three census years. Other years are in the works.) * Approximately 3.5 Terabytes of images and data - possibly the largest single database on the Internet, and definitely the largest genealogy database in terms of size And much more to come. . . Heritage Quest is the world's largest private supplier of genealogical data and we fully intend to bring these resources online to aid people in their quest to discover their family heritage. Who's Creating this Monumental New Web Resource? Heritage Quest is the world's largest private commercial supplier of genealogy data. In 1999, Havas Interactive acquired Heritage Quest, which became a part of SierraHome and the Generations line of CD-ROM and online genealogy tools. Heritage Quest's vast collection of family history data includes more than 250,000 titles of books, CDs, microfilm and the nationally acclaimed Heritage Quest magazine. These can be ordered online at www.heritagequest.com or by phone at 800- 760-2455. The "sticky note" feature looks particularly appealing. Even the original census records had errors; now genealogists will be able to append notes containing corrections or comments to individual census entries. You might want to keep an eye on the Web site at: http://GenealogyDatabase.com. There's not much available at that URL today, but that will change sometime later this year. I expect to write more about this new U.S. Census database as the launch date draws near. ============================== Many of us are in anticipation of the arrival of these census records -- I might even find a long-lost cousin in Minneapolis! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee

To all:- Mr. Peter Adams, MP, Peterborough, Ontario forwarded an extremely interesting but bery long letter about the Government Caucus on Post-Secondary Education and Research. I will forward the complete letter to anyone requesting it -- Gordon Watts sent the following to me re http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Contact me if you desire the complete letter -- only 32K -- very interesting. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee ================================ I have given Peter Adams a gold tick and put the following in his correspondence log. 12/08/1999 - extract from a letter sent to Hon. Paul Martin, Minister of Finance, by MP Peter Adams, acting as Chair/President of the Government Caucus on Post Secondary Education and Research. While it is known that at least one member of this caucus does not favour allowing access to Post 1901 Census it is presumed that MP Peter Adams, by including the following statement in the letter, does. "Another item, not strictly a budgetary matter, affects the social sciences. You should know that our Caucus supports the RELEASE OF POST-1901 CENSUS DATA in the same fashion that earlier census material was released. At stake for all Canadians is a true understanding of ourselves as a nation." Received from Gordon Watts <gordon_watts@telus.net>

NOT CENSUS INFORMATION To all:- My interest is in Genetically Inherited Diseases, and when I find something new, I pass on the information to my grandson and granddaughter. The CANAVAN RESEARCH FOUNDATION may be reached by searching for <www.canavan.org> This is a disease that requires gene therapy. A book, Kiss of God, has been written by a very intelligent young lad, now age 13, extremely high IQ, using only a "letter-board". As he punches the different letters, someone has to write down his thoughts, as his disease, as yet, has no name. The story of Marshall Stewart Ball can be found at: http://www.any-book/the_wisdowm.htm Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Hi Fred. Thank you for your interest and support. Encouragement from people such as yourself make it seem that we are not alone, and that our efforts are worthwhile. None of us on the Canada Census Committee are doing it because we seek praise from others, however the odd pat on the back is nice to receive. (This is NOT a solicitation) <]:-) WHEN WE SUCCEED it will be because of the efforts of many thousands of people like yourself, from both Canada, and other countries, in writing letters, signing petitions, and speaking to their elected representatives. It will be very much a collaborative effort -- the few of us on the committee cannot do it alone! Thank you for your interest and support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Zacher <fzacher@upc.com> To: <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Thursday, 13 July, 2000 6:34 AM Subject: Canadian Census Gordon, Thank you for leading the charge to make Canadian Census records available to the public. This is very important to my wife since her grandmother and great grandparents immigrated to Canada in a covered wagon in the early 1900's. She has several great aunts and uncles who were born there before her gg grandparents returned to Oklahoma. Restricting census information would prevent her from finding out more about them while they were citizens of your great country. Thanks, Fred Zacher Norman, OK fzacher@mmcable.com

****** Forwarded Message Follows ******* >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com >From: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com >Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:00:09 -0700 > > >Content-Type: text/plain > >CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 209 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [CCC-L] Links to databases ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #2 [CCC-L] Links to databases ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D, send a message to > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #1 >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:59:48 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <396BB4F3.4EB6F88B@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] Links to databases >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >To all:- >The following has been posted on the BOSTON-STATES list and >looks very interesting. We do have FIRSTMOM'S GENEALOGY >site on http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > >Why not do a comparison check -- get a HUGE cup of coffee, as >there is a great deal of information. Let me know if the following >is the same as on above URL, please. > >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >Canadian Census Committee > >Kat4U2Luv@aol.com wrote: > >> Here's some various links that might be of interest to you fellow >> genealogists out there. >> >> Firstmom's Military links for genealogy- includes War of 1812 all the way to >> Veitnam era. Categorized by wars, and also by various states in the Civil >> War. Also >> includes links and info on getting military records from the National >> Archives. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/military.htm >> >> Freebies for Genealogists- includes links forms/letters in various languages >> for sending requests for records overseas, and also forms to print free to >> keep track of your own genealogy data, graphics, clip-art, volunteer lookup >> sites, places to get free family homepages, Gedcom readers, just lots of neat >> stuff! >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/free.htm >> >> Genealogy Researcher's List -find a researcher in an area specific to your >> needs. Categories for various states as well as England and Scotland. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/research.html >> >> WW Top 100 Genealogy sites -actually has over 775 sites in it's databse now, >> add your site there too! >> http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=ancestry >> >> US States -categories for each state, plus individual pages for states like >> North Carolina, Pennsylvania etc >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/states.htm >> >> Non-Usa- this one is for all the other countries. Again, ones who have more >> than around 50-100 links have their own page (Germany, Ireland etc) and >> you'll find their link here. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/nonusa.htm >> >> Ancestry.com and other searches- Search huge database sites (Ancestry has >> over 2000 record databases now) from this one little page, plus quick links >> to Ancestry's Newest FREE databases: >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ancestor.htm >> >> Firstmom's Native American Genealogy Resources- >> Links for the various Nations, census info and more >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/native.htm >> >> Firstmom's Ship Lists -25 ships I transcribed, plus links leading to >> thousands >> more ships that are transcribed online. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ships.htm >> >> Have fun with them! >> Kathy >> PS. Feel free to pass this on, where appropriate, if you feel it might be of >> use to someone else as well. >> >> ==== BOSTON-STATES Mailing List ==== >> Letters to the Rootsweb Editors -Kudos and Kritz >> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/RWR-LettersToTheEditor > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #2 >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:00:06 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <396BB506.8514D3FE@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] Links to databases >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >To all:- >The following has been posted on the BOSTON-STATES list and >looks very interesting. We do have FIRSTMOM'S GENEALOGY >site on http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > >Why not do a comparison check -- get a HUGE cup of coffee, as >there is a great deal of information. Let me know if the following >is the same as on above URL, please. > >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >Canadian Census Committee > >Kat4U2Luv@aol.com wrote: > >> Here's some various links that might be of interest to you fellow >> genealogists out there. >> >> Firstmom's Military links for genealogy- includes War of 1812 all the way to >> Veitnam era. Categorized by wars, and also by various states in the Civil >> War. Also >> includes links and info on getting military records from the National >> Archives. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/military.htm >> >> Freebies for Genealogists- includes links forms/letters in various languages >> for sending requests for records overseas, and also forms to print free to >> keep track of your own genealogy data, graphics, clip-art, volunteer lookup >> sites, places to get free family homepages, Gedcom readers, just lots of neat >> stuff! >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/free.htm >> >> Genealogy Researcher's List -find a researcher in an area specific to your >> needs. Categories for various states as well as England and Scotland. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/research.html >> >> WW Top 100 Genealogy sites -actually has over 775 sites in it's databse now, >> add your site there too! >> http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=ancestry >> >> US States -categories for each state, plus individual pages for states like >> North Carolina, Pennsylvania etc >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/states.htm >> >> Non-Usa- this one is for all the other countries. Again, ones who have more >> than around 50-100 links have their own page (Germany, Ireland etc) and >> you'll find their link here. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/nonusa.htm >> >> Ancestry.com and other searches- Search huge database sites (Ancestry has >> over 2000 record databases now) from this one little page, plus quick links >> to Ancestry's Newest FREE databases: >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ancestor.htm >> >> Firstmom's Native American Genealogy Resources- >> Links for the various Nations, census info and more >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/native.htm >> >> Firstmom's Ship Lists -25 ships I transcribed, plus links leading to >> thousands >> more ships that are transcribed online. >> http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ships.htm >> >> Have fun with them! >> Kathy >> PS. Feel free to pass this on, where appropriate, if you feel it might be of >> use to someone else as well. >> >> > >End of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V00 Issue #209 >***************************************************** > >

Don:- This is a MUST for the CENSUS list -- many thanks for posting it to the NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com list. Muriel <davidson3542@home.com> ============================== This message came across another list that I am on and thought it might be of interest to people on this list. I wonder just how many people really look at genealogy in this way. Don Tate [ADAMS-L] Fw: THE WAY SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT GENEALOGY Dear Cousin, In response to your letter, I am sorry to inform you that grandpa "Fred" died some time back and the stuff you asked about is not available. The personal property the family did not want was sold at an estate sale. All those boxes of junk did not interest a single buyer. We were able to salvage several binders for the kids homework after we sent all the paper to the incinerator. The kids really complained about having to lug all that paper and pictures of those ugly old folks to the dumpster. An old family Bible from the 1840's did bring $ 5.00. The one from the 1870's did not sell. There also was a bunch of floppy disks that we were able to reformat and download some games for the kids to play on their new playstation. At least SOMEBODY got some good from the three generations work. I saw the fellow at a flea market a couple of weeks ago and he said he threw the Bible in the trash after nobody was interested in it. He said he got an offer for fifty cents for it, but would rather burn it than give it away. He seemed to be having a lot of success with some very nice Elvis paintings at his booth. The two aunts you asked about are also dead. They were such a delight and could talk all day long about the things papa had written about. I remember them saying something about some records that were copied from two courthouses that later burned. Neither ever wrote down a single thing. The letter you referred to was one he typed up and sent to lots of folks who wrote him. He laughed about them never getting any of his hard work as well as his Fathers and Grandfather who was in the Civil War. He guarded all the information carefully to the bitter end. I wish I could remember some of the things to help you, but I was bored to tears listening to them talk about the family members who were in the civil war and those silly pieces of paper he showed so proudly. I vaguely remember they had some beeswax seals and something to do with the land grants that were destroyed in the courthouse fires. I wish I could remember the story about his grandfather's evening with Jefferson Davis when he was on the run. There are also some very juicy stories that were handed down, but I don't remember them very well. Another thing I remember after he got sick was some fellow calling him and he agreed to let him come down and copy all his material. He told him he would call him back when he felt better. Papa mentioned something about letting the society the man was from have all his work since nobody in the family cared anything about a bunch of people who had been dead for 200 years. Papa died the next week. I am so sorry papa and the two generations wasted so much of their life on such worthless hobbies and hope your family will follow something more interesting. We enjoy Bingo and bowling very much here in Pleasantville. I really enjoyed hearing from a long lost cousin and would like to hear back if you find anything important. The kids need the computer for their games and I need to watch the "Millionaire" show. Thank you, Cuz, Tammy Jean. -- Don Tate Home of the Newfoundland 1921 Census material http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/NGB/ ============================================= Yes, Newfoundland does have CENSUS RECORDS online!! Some records are up to 1935 and more being posted weekly. The above posting depicts what has happened to many records -- some I am searching (or would like to) were from Westfield Baptist Church, others had been found in a building in Port Mouton, Queens Co -- could have been records of Tarleton's Legion from 1783!!! Also, my files and data are mentioned in my will -- it is to go to Queens County Museum & Research Centre. Muriel M. Davidson

To all:- The following has been posted on the BOSTON-STATES list and looks very interesting. We do have FIRSTMOM'S GENEALOGY site on http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Why not do a comparison check -- get a HUGE cup of coffee, as there is a great deal of information. Let me know if the following is the same as on above URL, please. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee Kat4U2Luv@aol.com wrote: > Here's some various links that might be of interest to you fellow > genealogists out there. > > Firstmom's Military links for genealogy- includes War of 1812 all the way to > Veitnam era. Categorized by wars, and also by various states in the Civil > War. Also > includes links and info on getting military records from the National > Archives. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/military.htm > > Freebies for Genealogists- includes links forms/letters in various languages > for sending requests for records overseas, and also forms to print free to > keep track of your own genealogy data, graphics, clip-art, volunteer lookup > sites, places to get free family homepages, Gedcom readers, just lots of neat > stuff! > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/free.htm > > Genealogy Researcher's List -find a researcher in an area specific to your > needs. Categories for various states as well as England and Scotland. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/research.html > > WW Top 100 Genealogy sites -actually has over 775 sites in it's databse now, > add your site there too! > http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=ancestry > > US States -categories for each state, plus individual pages for states like > North Carolina, Pennsylvania etc > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/states.htm > > Non-Usa- this one is for all the other countries. Again, ones who have more > than around 50-100 links have their own page (Germany, Ireland etc) and > you'll find their link here. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/nonusa.htm > > Ancestry.com and other searches- Search huge database sites (Ancestry has > over 2000 record databases now) from this one little page, plus quick links > to Ancestry's Newest FREE databases: > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ancestor.htm > > Firstmom's Native American Genealogy Resources- > Links for the various Nations, census info and more > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/native.htm > > Firstmom's Ship Lists -25 ships I transcribed, plus links leading to > thousands > more ships that are transcribed online. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ships.htm > > Have fun with them! > Kathy > PS. Feel free to pass this on, where appropriate, if you feel it might be of > use to someone else as well. > >

To all:- The following has been posted on the BOSTON-STATES list and looks very interesting. We do have FIRSTMOM'S GENEALOGY site on http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Why not do a comparison check -- get a HUGE cup of coffee, as there is a great deal of information. Let me know if the following is the same as on above URL, please. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee Kat4U2Luv@aol.com wrote: > Here's some various links that might be of interest to you fellow > genealogists out there. > > Firstmom's Military links for genealogy- includes War of 1812 all the way to > Veitnam era. Categorized by wars, and also by various states in the Civil > War. Also > includes links and info on getting military records from the National > Archives. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/military.htm > > Freebies for Genealogists- includes links forms/letters in various languages > for sending requests for records overseas, and also forms to print free to > keep track of your own genealogy data, graphics, clip-art, volunteer lookup > sites, places to get free family homepages, Gedcom readers, just lots of neat > stuff! > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/free.htm > > Genealogy Researcher's List -find a researcher in an area specific to your > needs. Categories for various states as well as England and Scotland. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/research.html > > WW Top 100 Genealogy sites -actually has over 775 sites in it's databse now, > add your site there too! > http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=ancestry > > US States -categories for each state, plus individual pages for states like > North Carolina, Pennsylvania etc > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/states.htm > > Non-Usa- this one is for all the other countries. Again, ones who have more > than around 50-100 links have their own page (Germany, Ireland etc) and > you'll find their link here. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/nonusa.htm > > Ancestry.com and other searches- Search huge database sites (Ancestry has > over 2000 record databases now) from this one little page, plus quick links > to Ancestry's Newest FREE databases: > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ancestor.htm > > Firstmom's Native American Genealogy Resources- > Links for the various Nations, census info and more > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/native.htm > > Firstmom's Ship Lists -25 ships I transcribed, plus links leading to > thousands > more ships that are transcribed online. > http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ships.htm > > Have fun with them! > Kathy > PS. Feel free to pass this on, where appropriate, if you feel it might be of > use to someone else as well. > > ==== BOSTON-STATES Mailing List ==== > Letters to the Rootsweb Editors -Kudos and Kritz > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/RWR-LettersToTheEditor

A new issue of The Global Gazette, Canada's Family History Magazine is online and filled with new articles To check it out, click on: http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm . The Global Gazette is produced by volunteers, and provided to the heritage community without charge. The publication is sponsored in full by GlobalGenealogy.com . If you would like personal email notification of each issue as it is posted, there is "subscribe" information is at the end of this message. AOL Users hotlink: <a href="http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm"> http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm </a>. SUMMARY OF ARTICLES IN THE JULY 7, 2000 ISSUE: EDITOR'S CORNER In this week's Editor's Corner we discuss the 're-constructed' Global Gazette subscriber list. Also press coverage of 188 American Prisoners Of War Honored Almost Two Centuries After Making The Ultimate Sacrifice; a reader shares Two Valuable (Searchable) Canadian Web Sites. Also this week a teaser on new attractions being added to Global Family History Fair 2000 at no extra cost. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm LOYALISTS IN CANADA Brenda Dougall Merriman reports on the new block-buster movie THE PATRIOT, sharing with Global Gazette readers her opinion of how the movie rates as entertainment and as a historical account. We are interested in your opinion too. Email your impressions to rick@globalgenealogy.com and we will post them in the next issue. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm ENGLISH AND WELSH ROOTS This issue of English and Welsh Roots looks at yet another important resource for family historians - Wills. Specifically, this issue is designed to assist researchers in understanding and using probate records (WILLS) from 1858 to the present. In the standard now expected from this column, wills are discussed in terms of their creation, as a primary archival resource, along with published and online resources to assist with understanding and using wills. As usual, don't miss the Extra Bits. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm ROUTES TO ROOTS Unexpected Family Traditions Sometimes family traditions spring up in an unexpected way. You might not even recognize them as traditional. Ryan Taylor shares with you some thoughts on some family traditions that many us omit from our recorded family histories. Also in this issue Ryan discusses two important government of Canada websites, that he has recently discovered. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm POST 1901 CENSUS PROJECT (Canada) Irresponsible Reporting and/or Political Intrigue... Find out what main-stream media is saying about the potential release of early Census records and where they are getting thier information from. Also a thoughtful submission to the expert panel by the Alberta Family Histories Society and more.... http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm UPCOMING EVENTS (WORLDWIDE) Browse or submit announcements for upcoming family history events, genealogy conferences, workshops and family reunions from around the world. No event is too big or too small. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm <> **************************************** <> MISSED THE LAST ISSUE?? If you missed the last issue you can find it at http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz57.htm . AOL Users hotlink:<a href="http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz57.htm"> http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz57.htm </a>. ***** ARCHIVE UPDATED July 7, 2000: Don't miss browsing the new Gazette archive of past articles, hints, lists, and sources. Now searchable by keyword or phrase too! http://GlobalGazette.net/backtop.htm ***** If you would like to be personally notified by email of each new posting of The Global Gazette (twice/month), send an email to request@globalgazette.net and type the following word in the SUBJECT line: SUBSCRIBE There is no charge for the magazine. Your address is never shared with anyone nor will you ever be solicited for donations to support the magazine. Unsubscribe instructions will be included in an email confirming your subsription. **** Rick Roberts The Global Gazette http://GlobalGazette.net Global Genealogy Supply http://GlobalGenealogy.com Global Heritage Press http://GlobalHeritagePress.com

Today, I collected 50 signatures from individuals where I work that support our cause. I have posted one set of signatures today to Gordon Watt (25). In the past, I have emailed every MP in Canada....by copying and pasting.....no extra typing. I plan to start my new campaign soon addressing all those individuals that didn't have the courtesy to reply my first email. I sure hope that there are many other individuals monitoring this mailing list that are interested in "Saving Our Census" from destruction. Maybe you could have your friends and family sign a petition to help us. Our fearless leaders, Muriel and Gordon, (plus a very few others) can't do it all alone. They NEED OUR HELP. PLEASE help those individuals who are helping us. I don't think they care how many signatures they have on the petition as long as they get them. Thanks Muriel & Gordon for all your help and dedication on this issue. Adele Turner North Vancouver, B. C.

To all who are willing to get rid of the BLUE ?????:- As of July 7, 2000, there are 173 too many!!! That means that 173 elected Members of Parliament feel THEY do not have to reply to constituents. Do not worry that the House of Commons is over until Monday, September 18, 2000 -- NOW is the time to confront him or her if YOUR vote is wanted at the soon-to-be election!!! Once can be called any date after September 5th, 2000, when the mandate is up! Ask his/her opinion about census release -- when you get an answer, please let us know -- I have accepted verbal positive answers from Members of Parliament at 1-905-451-3542. I even had an email that had only one word, "YES". The Scoreboard for Members of Parliament is found at:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm At this site, in another section, you will find petitions to download -- these are still coming for Senator Lorna Milne. Any for Mr. Murray Calder would go to Gordon Watts. Need some great summer reading -- you will need about 100 sheets of paper --THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html THE MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling is now available at the same URL -- Prairie Provinces need this. Be an INFORMED WRITER when you write to the ?????, cute little pieces of fence and even the Red X ones. Even if the answer is one or two lines, with name, Gordon Watts needs it for the message section for each Member of Parliament. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542 Canadian Census Committee member

Greetings All. I copy the following for your information. Gordon ---------------------------------------- Dear Mr Watts, In response to your email, the Expert Panel Report was delivered to Minister Manley on June 30, 2000 and it is the responsibility of the Minister to decide when it will be released. Once I am made aware of the release date, I would be most pleased to inform you and let you how you may obtain a copy. Regarding the Public Opinion Research, I am waiting for the translated version so that the final copy in both languages can be sent to PWGSC. The final report from Environics provides the questions that were asked in the surveys and the focus group discussion guide. These materials should address the questions that you have asked in your e-mail. Again, thank you for the electronic copies of your submission to the Expert Panel. Pamela White -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. WATTS [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 10, 2000 1:55 AM To: White, Pamela - DACS/SACD Subject: Re: Survey re: Access to Historic Census Dear Dr. White. Thank you for sending me the text version of the Environics Research report on the Focus Group results. I have studied this report with great care and have grave concerns regarding the questions asked, the manner in which they appear to have been presented, and the summary results as presented by that report.. The report starts out by stating that "Almost no participants had heard about the topic of releasing individual-level census data for future or past censuses" and "Most participants thought it acceptable that their personal census information might be released after a time delay of about 100 years." As a group having no previous knowledge of the Census issue, or of the use to which historians and genealogists put information from Census, the tone of the report generally indicates that participants questioned the value of the information but did not necessarily object to it's availability. Participants had "scepticism concerning the validity or usefulness of the information." They felt "their own personal interest in knowing about their family origins was low and this would probably be the same for their descendants." They felt that other records would be of more use than Census for obtaining certain types of information. Questioning the value of information, having scepticism about it's validity or usefulness, having little or no interest in it, or feeling that other records would be of more use, is a far cry from being opposed to it's accessibility. Not until participants in this focus study were fed disputed information regarding mis-interpreted legislation and the non-existent "promise of confidentiality" promoted by Statistics Canada, did opinions appear to swing away from the position stated at the beginning of the survey report. I would submit that on any given question, where participants with no prior knowledge have been told that legislation prevented an action, and that certain "promises" had been made regarding that action, those participants would accept the existence of the stated legislation and promises as fact, whether or not they were. I would further submit that if asked to go against the supposed legislation, or to take action that would break the supposed "promise", most participants reaction would be negative. That is what has happened in these focus groups. In reading this report it appears obvious to me that participants in this focus group study, having no previous knowledge of Census and it's value to historians and genealogists, were fed information and questions designed to elicit a desired response. It is to be hoped that the Nation wide survey was not handled in the same manner. I am, however, not particularly optimistic regarding that possibility. I would request again that, if possible, you might supply me with the questions asked, and the order and manner in which they were asked of participants in the focus groups. I would also request the questions asked of the Nation wide survey, and the report of that survey. If the report of the Focus Group Survey was released to the media accompanied by a 'News Release', I would appreciate a copy of that as well. As it is now somewhat past the end of June, when the delayed report of the Expert Panel was to have been submitted, please advise where and when it will be made available to the public. To date there has been no evidence of it on the Statistics Canada website. If possible, can you kindly provide me with a copy of it? Thank you again for your past, and current assistance. It is much appreciated. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC P.S. For your personal information I have attached to this email the files containing the text of my Submission to the Expert Panel. I am sending to you by Canada Post, a CD that contains most of the considerable backup documentation resulting from my research of this matter. I would ask that you read my submission and the support documentation. If you can prove me wrong in anything that I have stated in my submission, I invite you to do so. Gordon

Hi Vicki:- It would not be Canada who would be making the decision whether or not to release "any more census information" -- it is up to the ones we elect and send to Ottawa as Members of Parliament to speak on our behalf. We do not have a democratic government -- the major party members are only ALLOWED to vote as told -- or they are kicked out of the caucus. We need help and there are many ways YOU can assist -- Petitions, writing to YOUR Member of Parliament -- there are about five (5) of us working on behalf of ALL Canadian family researchers. Yes -- YOU all want the Canadian census records released -- Join us in the fight!!! THIS IS A CHALLENGE!!!!!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS - printable from http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Vickie and Ronnie wrote: > I would be very distressed if Canada decides not to release any more > census information. My grandfather was born in Ontario in 1904. As > he left before my father was born, I only know his name, birth place, > and age in years. Without later census information, I may never find > any trace of this line of my ancestors! I am not interested in > contacting present family. I would merely like to fill in this empty > branch of my family tree.

Many thanks to Marg Hunter for letting many Home Children researchers know of the availability of this book. Yes, to many of us it would appear sad -- but imagine the joy if the name of a child just happens to be YOUR grandparent??? I have become very interested in Home and Barnardo Children. Another good site is <http://ingeneas.com> I also have other contacts. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee ====================================== Hunter wrote: > Is listed at Global Genealogy: > http://globalgenealogy.com/books/238005.htm > <snip> > THE LITTLE IMMIGRANTS > Kenneth Bagnell. > CAT #238005 .................$5.95 Canadian Dollars > > Between 1870 and the Depression, more than 80,000 > impoverished children from the British Isles journeyed to Canada. > Known as the "home children" they were sent overseas by well-meaning > philanthropists to solve the farm labor shortage. Here is a heart rending > story of youngsters to many of whom a new life in Canada meant only > hardship and abuse. 270 pgs/index & bibliography/paperback > <end> > > I can personally vouch for Global Genealogy.... excellent service... great > price... I'm not affiliated with them in any way.... just a satisfied customer. > > Marg Hunter > >

Dear M W Baumeister. Thank you for your letter. I began my efforts almost three years ago to encourage others to write their Members of Parliament in an effort to obtain access to Historic Census records in Canada. Something over a year ago, others of like mind across Canada, joined together in an ad-hoc committee that has come to be known as the Canada Census Committee. In the past year our efforts have seen some results in that the Minister responsible has commissioned an Expert Panel to study and make recommendations regarding access to Historical Census records. We are currently waiting the public release of their report. During our campaign we have received encouragement and support from many, who, like yourself, live elsewhere but have ancestral roots in Canada. We have had letters and email of support from virtually all of the Western countries, including the USA, England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand -- even South Africa. Your interest and support, and your letter stating such, is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: M W Baumeister <mwb.edd@worldnet.att.net> To: <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Sunday, 09 July, 2000 7:29 PM Subject: Canadian Census Dear Mr. Watts: The continued releases of these censuses in their due time is not only important to Canadians, but to a lot of Americans as well. You may include me among that lot. My father's father was born and raised in Canada. He came to these United States to seek work, as did his two older brothers. He stayed, married and had a large family all before he sought to change his citizenship. His parents stayed in Canada well into their retirement years. They eventually moved to these United States with their adopted daughter to live their last years near their second son. They died in my lifetime and are buried not far from my birth place. "Dovey" was born in Canada. She married an immigrant Scot. Neither to my knowledge changed their citizenship. My many cousins and I have a lively interest in our family history and meet annually. We are still doing research in Canada and are interested in seeing what family information can be found in newer census data as the releases are made. We would find it distressing if no further releases were made. Sincerely, M W Baumeister, Ed D

Hi Brandy. I assume the program to which you refer was the one on CBC entitled "Selling the Census". This was a repeat of a program viewed some time earlier. This was a short but interesting segment that demonstrated that while StatCan does not actually release name-identifiable information, with mating what they do release to other substantial databases in the commercial world, it is possible to virtually identify those giving the information. Following both viewings of the program I sent an email to the host of the show suggesting that they consider doing a segment on the other side of the question -- that of allowing access to Historic Census. Unfortunately she did not allow me the courtesy of either responding to, or acknowledging either of my email. The recent experience with the Human Resources interconnection of many government databases illustrated quite well the concerns that early respondents to census had -- that other government departments would have access to their current census information -- not that descendants would have access to it in the future. While the report of the Expert Panel was supposed to be presented to Minister John Manley by the end of June there has been no evidence of it on the StatCan website. I will be writing to Dr. Pamela White, secretariat of the Panel, later today to find out what is happening with it. Rest assured that we will continue the fight until we have achieved our goal -- the continued access to census records 92 years after collection. Thank you for your interest and support. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave/Brandy Limbeek/LaFortune <dave.brandy@sympatico.ca> To: <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Sunday, 09 July, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: census records When is the panel's decision expected to be released? I am anxiously awaiting news of the 1911 census records. I am very disappointed with Stats Canada, I recently saw a program about how Stats Canada has been compiling data and selling it to companies! Sure, they don't release names but they do release other info that helps companies with their marketing. I guess that when Stats Canada is being paid for the information they don't mind breaking confidentiality laws! Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this tidbit of information, and please keep fighting for all the genealogists! Thank you, Brandy LaFortune

A few more sites from our Canadian COAST-TO-COAST-TO-COAST Genealogy Site -- Enjoy!!! TRULY CANADIAN WEB SITE CLUB [click on red map of Canada] KEDDY'S KORNER [One of Bryan Keddy's many web pages!!!] BARNEY KAUFMAN [Also designer of the distinctive linking logo] CANADIAN GENEALOGY & HISTORY LINKS [A trip across Canada!] DOWN HOME - FLAT ROCKS, NOVA SCOTIA [An unfinished one -- hope YOU like it!] GARY BASTARACHES "Louisiana or Bust" [This site has possibly been changed -- let us know] SASKATCHEWAN GENEALOGY SOCIETY QUEBEC & EASTERN TOWNSHIPS GENEALOGY RESEARCH [Has many interesting links -- you will enjoy it!] Where will you find these? http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Should anyone have problems opening any of these, please contact me -- I blame my server -- but the URL may have been changed. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- The following is only a partial listing of sites listed at one URL, many others another time -- in the meantime, read down the partial list and you will find the URL -- be sure to bookmark it -- more to follow!! The site is a Coast-to-Coast-to-Coast Genealogy Site for all to use! Genealogy Resources on the Net - Mailing Lists Information Collected by Census Acadian Gen-Web Project Site Alberta Family History Society (AFHS) Alberta Genealogy Society British Columbia Genealogy Society Canadian Families Project Canadian Historical Association - Letters Genealogy Association of Nova Scotia (GANS) Manitoba Gen Web - Post 1901 Gerald Keddy - M.P., South Shore, N.S. Senator Lorna Milne - Ontario CONTACT - MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT CANADIAN CENSUS INFO ON THE NET CANADIAN GEN WEB LINKS - By Province OBITUARY CODING CAMPAIGN The birthday of this site was July 1, 1999 - the LCCCC site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Bookmarks as "Post-1901" Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- Very possibly writing letters is not your way to assist -- but PETITIONS is another very necessary way! Go to the following URL: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm The PETITION MENU is varied -- you will be able to choose which one you wish to download -- all are 3 pages, and you might have to adjust the margins just a bit. Addresses are on the PETITIONS -- ones to the House of Commons go to Gordon Watts, 1455 Delia Drive, Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 I accept all PETITIONS for the Senate of Canada that are not mailed directly to a Senator at the Senate, also the Petition of Support for those Living Outside of Canada, to be used by Senator Lorna Milne. PETITIONS are in two favorites, Word (.doc) and WordPerfect (.wpd) Text is also available from <gordon_watts@telus.net> HOUSE OF COMMONS Petitions have both English and French versions. THE SENATE OF CANADA Petitions also has English and French NON-CANADA Petition is in English only. REQUEST:- Should you have guests from United States, they MUST sign the Non-Canada version -- do NOT combine Canadian and American or other signatures on the same petition. (It could be refused at Senate). Also, Non-Canadians should not sign petitions for House of Commons. I have been receiving petitions at the rate of one a day, both from Canada and United States --- keep them coming, please! The Meaning of Petitions:- WE cannot be there in person, but OUR signature can be. This is vacation time -- carry one with you!!! Great for campground fires! Family reunions are a big thing during the summer -- have both Canadian and Non-Canadian on hand. Any problem? Contact either Gordon Watts or myself. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member Print and read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html