Mark Philion wrote: > How can this even be considered? I am appalled that any free society would > have anything to do with an notion that challenges the freedoms allowed in a > democratic society. > > Specifically what is being suggested? ======================= Hi Mark:- You did not give your address and I do not recognize the e-mail address. Yes, it has been suggested, argued, etc. that the last Canadian census record that you or I could view would be the 1901 one. There is much talk of Privacy Laws, confidentiality even after death, at the same time the government departments have used data up to and including the 1996 Canadian census. I will ask Gordon Watts to answer this letter -- I just finished translating one written in French -- another to do. In the meantime, check these: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm [Our Member of Parliament Scoreboard posted by Gordon Watts] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- detailed, but clear Please let us know your address -- if in United States, we would welcome help with PETITIONS to be used in the Senate of Canada. There have been many Non-Canadian Friends who have assisted. We also have our own list, with Gordon Watts as listowner: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com We guarantee NO flames, NO lookups -- but the memos are democratic! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Canada
Mark Philion wrote: > How can this even be considered? I am appalled that any free society would > have anything to do with an notion that challenges the freedoms allowed in a > democratic society. > > Specifically what is being suggested? ======================= Hi Mark:- You did not give your address and I do not recognize the e-mail address. Yes, it has been suggested, argued, etc. that the last Canadian census record that you or I could view would be the 1901 one. There is much talk of Privacy Laws, confidentiality even after death, at the same time the government departments have used data up to and including the 1996 Canadian census. I will ask Gordon Watts to answer this letter -- I just finished translating one written in French -- another to do. In the meantime, check these: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm [Our Member of Parliament Scoreboard posted by Gordon Watts] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- detailed, but clear Please let us know your address -- if in United States, we would welcome help with PETITIONS to be used in the Senate of Canada. There have been many Non-Canadian Friends who have assisted. We also have our own list, with Gordon Watts as listowner: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com We guarantee NO flames, NO lookups -- but the memos are democratic! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Canada
To all:- The elected Members of Parliament are still on "vacation" , known as the summer break -- until September 18, 2000. There is still ONE MONTH left -- lots of time to visit your MP! When your elected Member of Parliament is in his/her riding, plan to visit YOUR Member - even if just to introduce yourself. Above all, you WOULD like to know his/her census thoughts, wouldn't you?. Go to <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Check to see if YOUR Member of Parliament has a pretty GOLD tick mark (means YES), a RED "X" that means NO, or a BLUE QUESTION MARK. The blue question mark means HE/SHE did not care enough to answer YOUR letter. Your Member of Parliament works at YOUR expense -- and for YOU --should he/she be in possession of a BLUE X, plan to visit! The GREEN piece of fence means just that -- neither YES or NO! Prepare a letter as if you would be mailing it, complete with name of riding and any title. Either call the riding office to see when your MP is in the office -- or take a chance. By putting the letter (in an envelope) into his/her hand, preferably in front of witnesses, there will be no question the letter was not received. Above all, you would like to query your Member's view re census records release -- preferably answered ON PAPER!!!. To prepare yourself, read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Let us know of any happy outcome -- and should you receive a reply, we would like to know his/her comments. Many have not sent this to us and Gordon Watts, Keeper of the Scoreboard,needs this information BEFORE AN ELECTION -- it will be published! A letter can be typed on a computer (save to disk), or by hand but let your Member of Parliament know YOU expect a positive response when there is mention of census release. Should you prefer to mail your letter, postage is FREE - in Canada Name of MP & Riding / House of Commons / Parliament Buildings / Ottawa, Ontario KIA OA6. Happy writing!!! Keep the petitions coming!!! (Canadian & Non-Canadian) Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and Read: THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts - may be printed http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm
Hi Everyone, It occured to me that our 'beloved' Mr. Bruce Phillips is set to retire from the Privacy Commissioner office. I did a search and at www.newswire.ca/government/federal do a search of privacy and you will find the news release that has George Radwanski as our interm Commissioner until Parliment sits and they appoint a new guy. I look at it this way when a new pernament commissioner is appointed he or she can't be any worse than Phillips. Things just might be looking up. Jacquie Nex jacnex@home.com
[Crest] House of Commons Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6 JIM JONES, M.P. MARKHAM August 10, 2000 Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson Canadian Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 Dear Mrs. Davidson:- Please accept my thanks for your recent inquiry into the release of post-1901 census records. I am delighted to respond to you, and I am hopeful that this letter can serve to alleviate your concerns. In recent months a number of genealogists and historians have articulated their collective disappointment that the 1911 census records will not be available for review in the public domain in the year 2003. These individuals had previously expected the 1911 census records to be made available for research purposes in the year 2003 because census records have been, up to this point, accessible to the public after 92 years. However, censuses administered after 1901 fall subject to the Statistics Act that explicitly prohibits the release of all census records. This prohibition does not allow anyone to access census records for any reason; the only exception is that an individual may access his or her own personal records but that is the only current exception. An individual may not access the census records of anyone else, not even those belonging to his or her immediate family members, nor even those records belonging to members of his ancestral family tree. Many have argued that the release of census records is crucial to furthering the knowledge Canadians hold of the past, of their communities, of their families, and of themselves. Of course, access to census records is what enables individuals, scholars, researchers, and historians alike to trace their respective histories and to answer questions about their past: from questions as simple, yet so personally important, as when exactly ones ancestry arrived in Canada, to questions as drawn and as nationally significant as the face of the brave men who fought and defended Canada in the first World War. Today nearly 100 years since the Laurier government instituted the change to the accessibility of census records it is true that times have changed dramatically, and so have cultural values. While today we place the utmost importance on personal issues, back then, as archival information indicates, the reason for keeping census records forever confidential was that Canadians feared the information would leak to tax collectors and military personnel not because Canadians wanted to keep the information confidential forever. The goal wasnt to keep valuable census information from historians. At a time when Canadians are increasingly interested in their past, and when private foundations such as the newly created HISTORICA are allocating millions to improve the teaching and dissemination of Canadian history, it does not make sense that we would be barred from access to our own history. While I certainly do appreciate the concern for statutory integrity and privacy interests, I do not believe that releasing the census records 92 years after the administration of the census would pose and infringement on either of these principles. This would not be an infringement of statutory integrity, neither an invasion of privacy, since after 92 years those who complete the census as adults are likely deceased, at which point the concern for privacy is moot. Furthermore, Canadians today have been quite vocal in their support for releasing census Records for research purposes. Given the overwhelming support for the release of the Records, we surely cannot ignore the call of Canadians. This is an instance where the sensibilities of Canadians what they feel is right and justifiable must be recognized. If Canadians of today do not feel that the release of census records is an infringement Upon the privacy rights of Canadians of yesterday, then we as legislators have no choice but to acknowledge their call. It is for this reason that I will continue to support the release of post-1901 census records. Sincerely, JIM JONES, M.P. Markham Offices:- 231 Amber Street, Markham, Ontario L3R 3J7 tel: (905) 948-8200 / fax: (905) 948-8181/ e-mail: hjjones@ibm.net Room 679, Confederation Bldg., House of Commons, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 Tel: (613) 996-3374 / fax: (613) 992-3921 / e-mail: jonesj@parl.gc.ca
Greetings All. Thousands, perhaps millions of Canadians have been waiting for Industry Minister John Manley to release of the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census. On Friday last, while speaking to an Assistant to John Manley, I was advised that although the Report of the Expert Panel was received by Mr. Manley's office 30 June 2000, as of 12 August 2000 Mr. Manley had yet to view the report. Copied below is an email I sent to Mr. Manley. Mr. Manley might appreciate some additional reading material. I would suggest everyone reading this send a letter or email to Mr. Manley requesting the immediate release to the Public of the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census. The snail mail address is on the letter below. His email addresses are Manley.J@parl.gc.ca and manley.john@ic.gc.ca . Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm This message has been sent to Alberta-L, British Columbia-L, Can-British-Columbia-L, Canada-Census-Campaign-L, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Roots-L, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. Permission to forward without notification is granted. =========================== 12 August 2000 The Honourable John Manley, PC, MP, Minister for Industry House of Commons, Parliament Buildings OTTAWA, Ontario, K1A 0A6 Dear Mr. Manley. As one of the estimated 7.5 million Canadians who are actively pursuing the avocation of genealogy I have been awaiting release to the Public of the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census. This report, originally due 31 May 2000, was delayed until the end of June. I am advised that although this Report was presented to your office on 30 June 2000, you have yet to view it. Mr. Manley, this Report is of vital interest to those of us that seek our ancestry, our heritage. Canada's first decade of the Twentieth Century had the greatest influx of immigrants in it's history. Public access to Historic Census for purposes of genealogical research, is allowed under Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Without this access, millions of Canadians will be unable to determine their family origins. This would be a tragedy beyond compare. I would respectfully request, Sir, that you immediately view the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census and allow the release of same to the Public. Thank you. Sincerely Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Canada Census Committee
To all:- I dared to ask one Ontario Member of Parliament if he would be supportive of any Bills and Motions re release of census records. It seems the voting public elect the Members of Parliament, are supposed to forget we pay their salaries when representing us, but dare not ask HOW the Member would vote on a certain issue. Knowing me, I did ask -- the Member of Parliament and his assistant(s) discussed the issue THOROUGHLY, as I was reprimanded in a phone call. The caller left no name, I believe he thought he was talking to someone with half a mind or a giddy teenager!!! I was not impressed! One remark: "Do you honestly believe YOU have a right to know how Mr. ####### will vote? That is his personal business!" [We are VOTERS] I did send a one-sided apology to clear the air -- the person already has a cute little piece of green fence -- which means NOTHING!!! All members of a certain party must vote as ordered!! Generally when an assistant sends the message, we know the name of the person -- we do not expect to deal with the Member of Parliament (we hope they are busy) -- but assistants have names. The following is the answer received -- I directed him to THE MYTHS OF CENSUS -- "they had thoroughly researched the matter":- ---------------------------- Dear Mrs. Davidson Thank you for your letter. I can appreciate your desire to obtain information from census post 1901 and I have made known the views of many on this to both the Minister of Industry and to the Privacy Commissioner. As much I support you, I also recognize those who through the Privacy Act want some data kept confidential. I thank you for taking the time to make your views known to me. UNSIGNED --------------------------- I queried the "some data to be kept confidential" -- no answer!!!!!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
To all Members of Parliament clinging to pieces of FENCE:- ANYONE WILLING TO WRITE TO ABOVE ELECTED MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT? -------------------------------------------------------- To all Members of Parliament (and Office Assistants):- The answer to the Subject Line question is bluntly this:- When the Member of Parliament hangs onto the little piece of YES/NO green fence, being Non-Committal -- he/she could say YES, or could say NO. Also, some answers have been received from office assistants (we do not know if the Member of Parliament saw the memo) telling us "THEY" do not answer SURVEYS. [Assistants are not elected]. The question re Post-1901 census records release is very definitely NOT a survey --- the voters across Canada who like to do family history and need the 1906 and 1911 census want to know if their elected member will be SUPPORTIVE of census records release. Many Members of Parliament are being guided by incorrect, out-of-date publicity handouts, of which I already have received about 75!! Voters in Canada hope their elected Member will be able to answer FOR THEM -- not as the Party Caucus dictates. A vote on census release should be a FREE vote -- I will believe that when I hear it!! We have become accustomed to listening to House proceedings on CPAC -- we now recognize those in attendance and sincerely hope the Member of Parliament remembers WHO elected him or her. When the vote is taken on Jason Kenney's Motion M-160, many of us will be taking note of WHO votes HOW!!! However, with a needed legislation change, Members may feel they represent only a handful of the Canadian public -- BUT they represent ALL citizens of Canada on this important vote. There are more than 7.5 million family researchers in Canada -- found in every riding. For researched material, printable -- copies had been sent to all of THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- go to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Alberta Members should also print MEMORANDUM OF LAW. The Scoreboard -- to be published by provinces before a federal election: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm When a message is received, it is posted by Gordon Watts. Looking forward to POSITIVE messages of SUPPORT for any Motion or Bill to release the post-1901 census records to National Archives. Your little piece of fence to which you are presently clinging will be quickly changed to a GOLD tick!!!!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Canadian Census Committee NOTE:- As of any date, colors on the scoreboard could change to only GOLD and RED. Be Prepared!
>From a former posting:- There are many "Aunt Iva people" -- she wants to know she is included on a Canadian census -- others want to find family members. So -- let's stop procrastinating -- when you are shopping buy some colored No. 10 envelopes -- hot pink would be noticeable!!!! Next time I will tell you what to do with these -- at last count you will need 205 envelopes -- the FENCE-SITTERS and the BLUE ????? =========================== To all:- Knowing that e-mails are not always answered -- often counted -- let's aim for a WRITTEN letter to be mailed Sept. 10, 2000 as House of Commons resumes on Sept. 18, 2000. The following is my way of doing multiple letters:- - The letter must be suitable for both sexes, political party unmentioned - Emphasize that ALL Members of Parliament should have the courtesy to reply to ALL Canadians -- not use the excuse of "their own riding". - Draw attention to the Member of Parliament Scoreboard, to be published prior to the next federal election, which could be called any time after Sept. 5, 2000:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm [I will be sending letters first to FENCES, then to ????? - change of wording] - Remind Members that Jason Kenney, MP has third hour of debate and vote on Motion M-160; Murray Calder has Bill C-484; Senator Lorna Milne has Bill S-15, which has had second reading. Ask for SUPPORT. - Statistics Canada or someone has issued a great deal of incorrect information re privacy and release of census records. Direct the person to THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts, sent to all -- at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html - If you have a personal story, like my Aunt Iva, age 98, use it by all means! - The Question to be used -- could be in black type (so they see it): "Would you, as an elected Member of the House of Commons of the Parliament of Canada, vote FOR or AGAINST a Bill supporting release to the Public, of Post 1901 Census Records, 92 years after they were recorded. ( 1911 census information available in 2003, 1921 in 2013 etc)" [YOUR version may be used -- as long as it means the same] Your letter should be no longer than one page Set up your letter, your full address may be at the bottom of the page, as one line, below your signature -- to be written in ink. My system is to type the name and riding, e.g. Ms. Wendy Lill, MP - Dartmouth House of Commons, Parliament Buildings Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 [Postage is FREE - your cost will be envelopes, paper and time]. As each letter is being printed, I address the envelope. Go back to the letter and change the name and riding -- repeat process. Please remember, a few well-chosen words and paragraphs will do more than a lengthy epistle. If anyone wants assistance in wording a letter, send it along, just mark it LETTER HELP and I will go over it. Mark the date on your calendar -- let's flood The Hill post-office. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member
To all who like guessing games:- Wonder if anyone can tell me the name of a Member of Parliament who is also a "playwright.actress"? Also, do you know this one:- This lady became tired of water damage where she was living -- became vocal about it, the damage was cleaned up. When it was time to elect city councillors, she was asked to run -- and was elected. When it was time to elect a mayor, she was asked to let her name stand -- yes, she was elected. Now, a Member of Parliament -- and yes, she was elected. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
To all:- Very possibly writing letters is not your way to assist -- but PETITIONS is another very necessary way! Go to the following URL: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm The PETITION MENU is varied -- you will be able to choose which one you wish to download -- all are 3 pages, and you might have to adjust the margins just a bit. Addresses are on the PETITIONS -- ones to the House of Commons go to Gordon Watts, 1455 Delia Drive, Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 I accept all PETITIONS for the Senate of Canada that are not mailed directly to a Senator at the Senate, also the Petition of Support for those Living Outside of Canada, to be used by Senator Lorna Milne. PETITIONS are in two favorites, Word (.doc) and WordPerfect (.wpd) Text is also available from <gordon_watts@telus.net> HOUSE OF COMMONS Petitions have both English and French versions. THE SENATE OF CANADA Petitions also has English and French NON-CANADA Petition is in English only. REQUEST:- Should you have guests from United States, they MUST sign the Non-Canada version -- do NOT combine Canadian and American or other signatures on the same petition. (It could be refused at Senate by a special committee checking paperwork). Also, Non-Canadians should not sign petitions for House of Commons. I have been receiving petitions at the rate of one a day, both from Canada and United States --- keep them coming, please! The Meaning of Petitions:- WE cannot be there in person, but OUR signature can be. This is vacation time -- carry one with you!!! Great for campground fires! Family reunions are a big thing during the summer -- have both Canadian and Non-Canadian on hand. Any problem? Contact either Gordon Watts or myself. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member Print and read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html
To all:- The August 10, 2000 Canadian Census Scoreboard is as follows:- GOLD Ticks- YES --Support = 89 [David Iftody, Manitoba Liberal MP] RED X----- NO -- Against = 7 [Paul DeVillers, Ontario Liberal MP] FENCE-SITTERS [Yes/No]-- = 55 [Too many!] DECIDED NOT TO ANSWER--- = 150 [No Reply - I Have Been Elected Club] Of the 89 Gold ticks, subtract 2 - Jim Hart and Scott Brison -- a note will be added to the Scoreboard as both have resigned. The 150 BLUE ???? are mainly in Quebec, with only about 11 of their 75 Members of Parliament having the courtesy to answer. One of the Canadian Census Committee members, Jeannine Ouellet is president of one large group, vice-president of a larger group --there is no way the Quebec politicians do not know about the huge struggle to obtain release of the post-1901 census records. At one time I belonged to the QC-ETANGLO list, mainly Eastern Townships,but was unsubscribed as the listers felt census had nothing to do with genealogy -- instead, it is one of the basics. I learned the listers, believe it or not, were mainly Americans with Canadian roots -- so I got DUMPED! It has been reported to Rootsweb.com. In my way of thinking,contrary to what Members of Parliament are telling us, each elected member has an obligation to reply to ANY Canadian, not just his/her own riding. Should any writer be getting this "line", please let either Gordon Watts or I know -- he writes forceful letters!! Paul DeVillers, MP included several lines re the Expert Panel report having been given to John Manley at the end of June. He also received a large RED X because of his negative view on census release. More later, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
To all:- One story we hear over and over again, is of people HOPING to be able to trace family members, learn names of family members, ages, WHEN and IF we are allowed to view the 1911 Canadian census. The 1901 census was the first one that included dates of birth -- often family members guessed prior to this, and why tombstone inscriptions are not always as they should be. Personally, I have ONE aunt, 98 years young, resident of Queen's Manor, Liverpool, Nova Scotia. She is hoping to learn of the release of census records because the 1911 census would be her FIRST Canadian census. My Aunt Iva, born in 1902 in Bucksport, Maine, came to Liverpool as a child, as did my mother, born in 1904. The parents, George Warren Adams of Dedham, Maine and his wife, Jane Maria Conrad (Davis) brought their family "home" to live. My grandmother was born in West Berlin, at one time called Blueberry, d.o. Eliza Conrad and James MacKenzie Davis. Many know the above -- my personal reason for wanting the Canadian census records released. Aunt Iva told me "the politicians have it all wrong -- my parents told me what they wrote on their first enumeration papers." She is an educated lady -- knows the "secrecy" never existed -- except for enumerators not to run to the next house and tell what they had already learned. [We call it GOSSIP!] There are many "Aunt Iva people" -- she wants to know she is included on a Canadian census -- others want to find family members. So -- let's stop procrastinating -- when you are shopping buy some colored No. 10 envelopes -- hot pink would be noticeable!!!! Next time I will tell you what to do with these -- at last count you will need 205 envelopes -- the FENCE-SITTERS and the BLUE ????? Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
To all:- The August 10, 2000 Canadian Census Scoreboard is as follows:- GOLD Ticks -- YES -- in Support = 89 [David Iftody, Manitoba Liberal MP] RED X----------- NO -- Against--- = 7 [Paul DeVillers, Ontario Liberal MP] FENCE-SITTERS [Yes/No]-------- = 55 [Too many!] DECIDED NOT TO ANSWER--- = 150 [No Reply - I Have Been Elected Club] Of the 89 Gold ticks, subtract 2 - Jim Hart and Scott Brison -- a note will be added to the Scoreboard as both have resigned. The 150 BLUE ???? are mainly in Quebec, with only about 11 of their 75 Members of Parliament having the courtesy to answer. One of the Canadian Census Committee members, Jeannine Ouellet is president of one large group, vice-president of a larger group --there is no way the Quebec politicians do not know about the struggle to obtain release of the post-1901 census records. At one time I belonged to the QC-ETANGLO list, mainly Eastern Townships, but was unsubscribed as the listers felt census had nothing to do with genealogy -- instead, it is one of the basics. I learned the listers, believe it or not, were mainly Americans with Canadian roots -- so I got DUMPED! It has been reported to Rootsweb.com. In my way of thinking, and contrary to what Members of Parliament are telling us, each elected member has an obligation to reply to ANY Canadian, not just his/her own riding. Should any writer be getting this "line", please let either Gordon Watts or I know -- he writes forceful letters!! Paul DeVillers, MP included several lines re the Expert Panel report having been given to John Manley at the end of June. He also received a large RED X because of his negative view on census release. More later, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
Copie conforme Lettre à mon député M.Paul Crête Bonjour Nous vous demandons de prendre position sur ce projet. Les résidents du Québec ont reçu en héritage une passionnante et une merveilleuse histoire. Celle-ci pourrait être perdu pour les générations actuelles et futures. Le dernier recensement du Québec accessible aux chercheurs est celui de 1901. Plusieurs Canadiens, d'un océan à l'autre, espèrent obtenir la possibilité d'effectuer des recherches dans les recensements ultérieurs à 1901, qui pourraient être accessibles en 2003. Toutefois, cela ne se produira pas sans que vous participiez à cette lutte. Comme dans le reste du Canada, les chercheurs trouveront très difficile d'apprendre des renseignements relatifs aux membres de leur famille si les recensements ne sont pas accessibles. Les registres des paroisses religieuses sont importants mais ne contiennent pas de regroupement sur les familles. Travaillons tous ensemble sur ce projet. Nous avons besoin des recensements pour nos recherches. Monique Dumais <modum@globetrotter.net> =============================================== Certified Copy Letter to my representative M.Paul Crête, MP Hello We ask you to discuss this project. The residents of Quebec have an enthralling heritage and a marvellous history. This could be lost for the present generations and future. The last census of Quebec accessible to the researchers is that of 1901. Several Canadians, from one ocean to another, hope to obtain the possibility of carrying out search in the later censuses at 1901, (post-1901) which could be accessible in 2003. However, that will not occur without you taking part in this fight. As in the remainder of Canada, the researchers will find it very difficult to learn from the information relating to the members of their family if the censuses are not accessible. The registers of the religious parishes are significant but do not contain a grouping of the families. Let us work all together on this project. We need the censuses for our search. Monique Dumais <modum@globetrotter.net>
HOUSE OF COMMONS CHAMBRE DES COMMUNES CANADA Paul DeVillers <devilpo@parl.gc.ca> July 21, 2000 Vivian Parliament 476 Park view Ct. Midland, Ontario L4R 5G3 Dear Ms. Parliament: Thank you for your e-mail message from June 11, 2000, regarding the issue of access to historical census records. Recognizing the importance of historical research but also taking into account the privacy concerns of Canadians, the Honourable John Manley, Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, created a few months ago an Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. The Panel's objective is to provide independent, expert advice on the legal, privacy and archival implications of releasing historical census records. The Expert Panel has presented its report to the Minister at the end of June, but the Minister has not yet had a chance to properly review it. The Panel reviewed all relevant documents received to date, and met with key stakeholders to get their views. The Panel also accepted commentaries that cover areas of concern not previously submitted. I personally tend to support the view that since post 1906 census data has been collected under the authority of various Statistics Acts, and that this legislative framework contains strict confidentiality provisions, to permit disclosure of post 1906 census records could be viewed as a betrayal of past statutory guarantees. Thank you again for taking the time to share your views with me. Sincerely, Paul DeVillers, MP Simcoe North ========================== Vivian Parliament <vivnana@mid.igs.net>
To Stockwell Day:- Many Canadians are wishing you well as you hope to bring democratic government to Canada -- it has been missing for too long. Of concern to many voters, who also just happen to be family researchers is HOW will you vote, after elected, on a Motion (M-160 by Jason Kenney), Bill C-484 by Liberal Member Murray Calder, or S-15 by Senator Lorna Milne? Will you SUPPORT the release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records to the National Archives -- so researchers may view these in 2003? Will you SUPPORT the release of the 1906 census records of the three prairie provinces -- their first Canadian census? Do you SUPPORT the 92-year waiting period -- or do you feel this could be shorter, for example, 75 years, without harming privacy of people? There is a Member of Parliament Scoreboard at: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm You will notice many of your present Canadian Alliance Party members have not had the courtesy to reply (the BLUE ?) while others cannot make up his/her mind so are clinging to a small piece of GREEN FENCE. To date YOU belong in the BLUE ?????? category. [If elected, your name and riding will be added, also your viewpoint] The Scoreboard will be published before the next federal election. THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts is in direct opposite to some of the information presented by Statistics Canada - found at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html While there, you should also print MEMORANDUM OF LAW, written for the three prairie provinces by Lois Sparling, Alberta barrister. We really would like your viewpoint re census release. Mr. Jim Hart was in favor ot it -- but at present, you are hoping for his riding. It was announced that ALL Canadian Alliance members were in favor. This could be a very strong point if it were true -- especially to residents of Ontario, where Liberals, at present, are in majority. Trusting we will hear from you -- YOUR British Columbia voters might like to know! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member Brampton, Ontario
Received from Robert Westbury <westburr@cadvision.com> Dear Muriel, As usual you have done sterling work over the summer with all your messages. I continue to stand in awe of your astounding productivity. I got this message today, and I thought it might be of special interest to you. Bob ---------------------------- >From Ancestry.com's newsletter: CREATE YOUR OWN FAMILY HEALTH TREE Pfizer Women's Health has launched GenerationalHealth.com--a site that enables visitors to build their own family health trees that highlight recurring medical conditions. Once built, the family health trees can be shared with physicians, as well as family members. http://www.generationalhealth.com/hgtree1.cfm?last=1 -------------------------- Many listers will remember the GENETICALLY INHERITED DISEASES submission to the Expert Panel -- which has not reported so far. This "generational health tree" is similar to my family records of Who has What -- and relationship. Have a peek at the site -- it goes along with family history. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
To all who wish to see Nova Scotia's Scoreboard GOLD!!!:- Two Members of Parliament, Bill Casey, MP for Cumberland-Colchester and Wendy Lill, MP for Dartmouth (my former home) are still spoiling the GOLDEN look of Nova Scotia's MPs Scoreboard! http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Both of these MPs are clinging to the YES/NO piece of fence!!! We have already lost one good young MP, Scott Brison in Kings-Hants and there will be a notation on the Scoreboard re this shortly. To date, JOE CLARK does not want to reply re his intentions of support and census release -- hopefully someone in his political party will ask him and get back to us with the answer. His wife, Maureen McTier, had a great answer -- but Maureen is not the one going for election. Let's make Nova Scotia the first GOLDEN province -- at least, all MPs have answered, even if Bill Casey and Wendy Lill are fence-sitting! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee
To all:- Elected Members of Parliament very possibly believe they only speak for their constituents, in their area of ONTARIO. Residents of ONTARIO -- Please contact YOUR Member of Parliament and let us know of his/her views on this matter. The Canadian Census Committee, working for release to the National Archives of the post-1901 Canadian Census Records, feel ALL elected Members of Parliament speak for ALL citizens of Canada on this Canada-wide campaign. Please check your provincial scoreboard - to be published BEFORE the next federal election -- at the following site:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm A breakdown of figures:- Elected = 103 Members of Parliament in Ontario SUPPORT = 22 Liberals and 1 Progressive Conservative FENCE-SITTERS = 26 -- all Liberal Members of Parliament NO REPLY = 51 -- all Liberal Members of Parliament NEGATIVE = 3 -- Liberals Janko Price, David Pratt and Julian Reed. CONCENTRATE ON THE GREEN FENCES (NEITHER YES/NO ANSWERS) PLUS THE 51 WHO BELONG TO A SPECIAL CLUB: "I Have Been Elected, I Do Not Need To Reply to My Constituents". It is hopeful all have received THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts and have studied it - a CD is available <gordon_watts@telus.net> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Mr. Jason Kenney will have Motion M-160 in third hour of debate and votable on Sept. 20, 2000 -- we are hopeful all will support him, as well as Mr. Murray Calder's C-484 and Senator Milne's S-15, a duplicate. Looking forward to early replies -- let's have the opinion of all!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542 Replies also to:- Gordon A. Watts, 1455 Delia Drive, Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 <gordon_watts@telus.net>