August 23, 2000 Mr. and Mrs. Rick and Valerie Davidson E-Mail: rickval@vianet.on.ca Dear Mr. and Mrs Davidson: Thank you for your letter concerning the release of post-1901 data relating to the census. I support the release of this information and drafted a private members bill to that effect (Bill C-312 An Act to Amend the National Archives of Canada Act and the Statistics Act). A copy of the bill can be obtained at the parliamentary website located at http://www.parl.gc.ca under private members business (House of Commons). Thank you again for you interest in this matter. Sincerely, Mac Harb, MP ========================== 2nd Session, 36th Parliament, 48 Elizabeth II, 1999 The House of Commons of Canada BILL C-312 An Act to amend the National Archives of Canada Act and the Statistics Act Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows: NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF CANADA ACT 1. Section 4 of the National Archives of Canada Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (4): Release of census information (5) Despite any other provision in this or any other Act of Parliament or a regulation made thereunder, the Archivist may disclose to any person or body for research or statistical purposes any information under the control of the Archivist that is contained in a census of population taken before or after the coming into force of this section, provided that 92 years have elapsed since the census containing the information was taken. STATISTICS ACT 2. The Statistics Act is amended by adding the following after section 21: TRANSFER OF CENSUS OF POPULATION TO NATIONAL ARCHIVES [ Transfer of census information obtained after 1906 but before this section comes into force] 21.1 (1) Despite any other provision in this or any other Act of Parliament or a regulation made thereunder, the Chief Statistician shall, not later than 30 days after the day this section comes into force, transfer to the National Archivist for archival purposes, the information contained in every census of population taken in Canada after 1906 but prior to the coming into force of this section. [ Transfer of census information obtained after this section comes into force ] (2) Despite any other provision in this or any other Act of Parliament or a regulation made thereunder, the Chief Statistician shall, not later than five years following every census taken in Canada after the coming into force of this section, transfer the information contained in that census to the National Archivist for archival purposes. --------------- First Reading of Bill C-312 was Nov. 5, 1999 -- present status unknown Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
The TRUE and REAL reasons why census records must be released. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- SecurePJ@aol.com wrote: > Senator Murray. > Please take time to read this letter. > > I have cried many times in my life. Sometimes in silence and sometimes in > full view at what my life has been and what my childhood has caused. Caused > by a myriad of actions taken and some not taken. Caused by well meaning > people who have authority over your health, home, religion and thoughts. Some > of these people were caretakers. Some of these people represented the > Governing bodies set up to see that children like myself were protected. > > Supposedly I was one of the "protected children" > > At this time in my life I still cannot get a family history from my > "Protectorates" Privacy the defending issue. This being the all encompassing > word to DENY Me my rightful heritage. To DENY me the very essence, that I > have family. Yes I can go on and on> > > You see, What you take for granted is not available to me. You know who your > mother, father, sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles. Nieces and nephews. You > know who your grandfather and grandmother are and perhaps what they were like > in life. You may have even been HUGGED by them. I am not so privileged. > > My mother was unknown to me, as well as all others. I was a "State Kid." An > orphan going from home to home, school to school. > > As time passes, one asks questions. The answers vary. "Your parents are > dead." "You were abandoned" WE cannot tell you" > > As soon as possible I enter the Military. Here I start a new life. > > I still ask questions and still get denials> > > I am now 68 years old. My children are grown. I have, in these years found my > heritage. Not from my "protectorates" or it's agencies, But from searching > obituaries, newspapers, libraries. Getting on the Internet and asking > questions, Searching files of all sorts. Getting help from people who > understand our need to know. > > The census played an important part in my search. Only recently did I find > additional family from these sources. > > You see, If you hide from the public this kind of information, you may > FOREVER deny someone the right to know who they are. Searching also is done in > reverse. > >From "way back there" I can follow the trail to myself. > > Mine is not an unusual story. Perhaps from a time standpoint it is. There are > so many like me. > Do the right thing. MAKE and KEEP information public. > > Respectfully yours. PJ MATHON > > A 'Canadian' in the United States. Tied to you by History and family. > I am a descentant of: Bernard MATHON Chirurgien-Major of St. Sever, France > > Pierre TREMBLAY and Ozanne Achon > The BROUILLETTE family > The BARIL family > The Blanchette family > The AYOTTE family. > > REMEMBER, I have found this information in spite of the attempts to withhold > it. BECAUSE it was available in other public formats. > > I give permission to use this letter with source identified. > >
August 23, 2000 Mr. and Mrs. Rick and Valerie Davidson E-Mail: rickval@vianet.on.ca Dear Mr. and Mrs Davidson: Thank you for your letter concerning the release of post-1901 data relating to the census. I support the release of this information and drafted a private members bill to that effect (Bill C-312 An Act to Amend the National Archives of Canada Act and the Statistics Act). A copy of the bill can be obtained at the parliamentary website located at http://www.parl.gc.ca under private members business (House of Commons). Thank you again for you interest in this matter. Sincerely, Mac Harb, MP ========================== 2nd Session, 36th Parliament, 48 Elizabeth II, 1999 The House of Commons of Canada BILL C-312 An Act to amend the National Archives of Canada Act and the Statistics Act Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows: NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF CANADA ACT 1. Section 4 of the National Archives of Canada Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (4): Release of census information (5) Despite any other provision in this or any other Act of Parliament or a regulation made thereunder, the Archivist may disclose to any person or body for research or statistical purposes any information under the control of the Archivist that is contained in a census of population taken before or after the coming into force of this section, provided that 92 years have elapsed since the census containing the information was taken. STATISTICS ACT 2. The Statistics Act is amended by adding the following after section 21: TRANSFER OF CENSUS OF POPULATION TO NATIONAL ARCHIVES [ Transfer of census information obtained after 1906 but before this section comes into force] 21.1 (1) Despite any other provision in this or any other Act of Parliament or a regulation made thereunder, the Chief Statistician shall, not later than 30 days after the day this section comes into force, transfer to the National Archivist for archival purposes, the informa tion contained in every census of population taken in Canada after 1906 but prior to the coming into force of this section. [ Transfer of census information obtained after this section comes into force ] (2) Despite any other provision in this or any other Act of Parliament or a regulation made thereunder, the Chief Statistician shall, not later than five years following every census taken in Canada after the coming into force of this section, transfer the information contained in that census to the National Archivist for archival purposes.
Century Old Legislation is coming back to haunt Canadians. Will one of our Canadian papers stand up and be counted and please tell the whole story; the truth and nothing but the truth. For some insight please read Gordon Watts' "THE MYTHS OF CENSUS", then write your story.... Standings as of 21 July, 2000: Per Party:- Liberal 24, Canadian Alliance 29, N.D.P. 15, P.C. 17, Bloc Quebecois 1 = FOR 86, AGAINST 6, NON-COMMITTAL 52, NO RESPONSE 157 ========================================== To all:- The above figures have changed from July 21 to August 21, 2000 Check: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Wayne Cook provides a great service for many parts of Canada -- I found and have answered two Maritimes queries this evening -- there are lists for all parts of Canada -- these are interesting! There are a great many other "goodies" at this site -- many dealing with our present Canadian Post-1901 census release campaign, including being linked to the census site; The Myths of Census by Gordon Watts and Memorandum of Law by Lois Sparling. Many thanks, Wayne -- I will be back to read and hopefully answer more queries another evening, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee
To all:- Gordon Watts has really been busy -- even though there have not been too many changes to the Member of Parliament Scoreboard:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm When this opens, look for the wording in RED below page title. This will take you back to the preceding page -- on your computer set-up, you may be able to click on the Back button....@Home prefers otherwise! Scroll down to "Other Sites" -- Gordon says the work has only been started but let him know IF you wish to be linked with the census pages. My personal web page is there -- I use the maple leaf flag logo as a link, others may prefer a line! Many thanks, Gordon -- the "work in progress" looks great!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
To all:- Check the following URL, hold the end of the mouse over a "piece of fence" and you will find there is a message! http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm When the long-awaited Report of the Expert Panel is finally received, we hope these little YES/NO pieces of green fence may be changed to GOLD ticks for YES. The report was received by The Hon. John Manley, PC, MP June 30, 2000. To date we have not heard IF we are going to hear it at all; whether the report will be given after Sessions resume Sept. 18, 2000 -- or what!! The green FENCE only stretches from Nova Scotia to British Columbia:- British Columbia......... 3 CA and 5 Lib = 8 Alberta......................... 5 CA.................. = 5 Saskatchewan........... 1 Lib................... = 1 Manitoba..................... 2 Lib.................. = 2 Ontario.........................26 Lib................. =26 Quebec........................ 5 Lib/1 Bloc..... = 6 New Brunswick..... 1 PC/1 Lib/1 NDP = 3 Nova Scotia................ 1 PC/1 NDP.... = 2 Prince Edward Island 2 Lib................. = 2 Total = 55 More another time!! Muriel <davidson3542@home.com>
Many thanks, Teresa -- for sending the following memos, especially the one from Mr. Reg Alcock!! Marlene Catterall, MP, gave a very honest answer -- she replied to you and like many other Members of Parliament, is awaiting the Report of the Expert Panel. Should this be positive, I feel we will have many more YES answers on the Members of Parliament Scoreboard. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Teresa Shannon wrote: > Dear Muriel: > > Thought you would be interested in the response I got regarding the > Post-1901 Census. I also received a letter from Marlene Catterall, M.P. > for Ottawa West-Nepean in the mail and she stated that she was also > awaiting the release of the report and that she was in favor of releasing > the information. Just thought you would like to know. > > Teresa Shannon, > Woodstock, NB > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alcock, Reg - M.P. <Alcock.R@parl.gc.ca> > To: 'Teresa Shannon' <tshannon@nb.sympatico.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:01 AM > Subject: RE: Post 1901 Census Project > > Dear Ms. Shannon, > > I would like to thank you on behalf of Mr.. Alcock for writing. He is in > favor of releasing the Post - 1901 census and is awaiting the release of > the report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census as I'm sure > youare. > Thank you again and good luck with tracing your family tree. > > Sincerely > Stephanie Craig > Special Assistant > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teresa Shannon [mailto:tshannon@nb.sympatico.ca] > Sent: August 3, 2000 10:55 PM > To: Alcock.R@parl.gc.ca > Subject: Post 1901 Census Project > > Dear Mr. Alcock: > > I have noticed that you are yet undecided on your committment for or > against this project. As a person trying to trace family trees on 8 lines, > I can > tell you how important it is to have access to these census. I have found > some grandparents and great grandparents but cannot do much more until the > 1911 census are released. It is hard to track families down if you do not > have > access to this information. I can assure you that all geneologists would be > truly grateful knowing we can count on you for your support. > Thank you for your consideration of this important matter. > > Yours truly, > > Teresa Shannon, Woodstock, NB > >
To: <minchin@coastnet.com> I do not understand the reasoning of the repeated messages from Monday, August 21, 2000. - Are you trying to tell me my name appeared too often? - Is this YOUR way of assisting -- making certain those who may have missed messages would have the opportunity to see them? - I am not apologizing for my name being on EVERY posted message -- although there is a committee of more than TWO (2), very often it seems there is only Gordon Watts and myself, Muriel M. Davidson Please explain to the list your reasoning behind the re-posting. Many thanks, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>
http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/displaystory?2000/08/22+172.raw+NovaScotia
Greetings all. As responses from MPs seem to have slowed down again I have been working on updating other pages on the Post 1901 Census Project website. Check out the "Other Sites" page. It now has links to various submissions to the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census as well as links to websites that either have Post 1901 Census information or contain links to other sites that do. Still a work in progress but much improved from what it was. Do you have a website with information regarding the Census problem and a link to the Post 1901 Census Project website? If you would like a reciprocal link to your website please contact me at gordon_watts@telus.net . We would like to hear from more of you. Please post your comments and questions regarding the Post 1901 Census situation. That is the reason for the existence of this mail list. Don't be shy. Subscription to the list is down from what it was because of vacations, etc. but is starting to increase again. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm
****** Forwarded Message Follows ******* >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com >From: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:00:11 -0700 >> >Content-Type: text/plain > >CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 250 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [CCC-L] Newspaper URLs for Letters ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #2 [CCC-L] Re: Census Info ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #3 [CCC-L] LACK OF ANSWERS FROM QUEBE ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #4 [CCC-L] Prince Edward Island needs ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #5 [CCC-L] N.W.T. / YUKON & NUNAVUT - ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > #6 [CCC-L] Historical Cemetery -- Goo ["Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D, send a message to > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #1 >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:59:36 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <39A151E7.D7341131@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] Newspaper URLs for Letters to the Editor re CENSUS >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >http://www.webwombat.com.au/intercom/newsprs/index.htm > >http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Media/newspapers.html >================== >The above newspaper URLs were posted during the past few days. >There was another one -- now inaccessible, > >The first one listed above has been changed to >http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ > >A chart opens up -- newspapers available from around the world. >I clicked on CANADA -- you have a choice of "alphabetically" or by >"province" -- the lists are printable -- then I find my contact editor >name and copy this beside the name of the newspaper. > >The second URL above is very interesting -- one can even learn Gaelic >or have a trip along Nova Scotia's Eastern Shore No. 7 Highway, etc. > >Above all -- we request all who want census records released to write >to the Editor as given for Letters to the Editor. >You will find many papers are very interested -- try The Hill Times, >Ottawa, >this newspaper is "up" on all the latest goings-on at Parliament Hill. > >Remember -- these are "online" newspapers -- you might also like to send > >signed letters, full address and a phone number, to YOUR local paper. >If every family researcher did this, possibly we might eventually obtain > >the Report of the Expert Panel. > >We NEED to do everything we can possibly do to let the government >know the Members of Parliament have a responsibility to US - the PEOPLE. > >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >Canada Census Committee >http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #2 >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:13:54 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <39A17162.5AB3A873@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] Re: Census Info >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Many thanks to Marilyn Steranko, Special Assistant:- > >It is our sincere hope that The Hon. Ralph Goodale will either write >or dictate a POSITIVE answer re our census release question -- there >are many family researchers, even among the ones who voted >for him. >There is a place for posting messages on the MP Scoreboard: >http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm >Click on the names of the MP at the left, this will bring you to the >message posting bulletin board for each Member of Parliament. > >Looking forward to hearing from you and many thanks! > >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >Canadian Census Committee >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > >"Ralph Goodale, M.P." wrote: > >> On behalf of Minister Goodale, I wish to acknowledge receipt of your >> recent email. Please be assured it will be brought to the Minister's >> attention at the first available opportunity. >> >> Marilyn Steranka >> Special Assistant to >> Ralph Goodale, M.P. >> Wascana > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #3 >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:57:13 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <39A1C1D9.7A366ECB@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] LACK OF ANSWERS FROM QUEBEC A DISGRACE??????????? >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >The following was sent to Members of Parliament as noted:- >QUEBEC:- >The Right Hon. Jean Chretien - Liberal <pm@pm.gc.ca> >The Hon. Alfonso Gagliano - Liberal <Gagliano.A@parl.gc.ca> >Clifford Lincoln - Liberal <Lincoln.C@parl.gc.ca> >The Hon. Lucienne Robillard - Liberal <Robillard.L@parl.gc.ca> > >ANYONE WILLING TO WRITE TO ABOVE ELECTED MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT? >The provincial scoreboard leaves a lot to be desired!! >- ------------------------------------------------------ > >To all Family Researchers in the Province of Quebec:- > >The answer to the Subject Line question is bluntly this:- >When the Member of Parliament hangs onto the little piece of YES/NO >green fence, being Non-Committal -- he/she could say YES, or could >say NO. > >The Province of Quebec has 75 elected Members of Parliament, four >"fence-sitters" listed above, we want a definite YES or NO. Total >making a commitment is 10 -- leaving 65 BLUE ?? [No answers] > >FOUR others who have committed themselves and have GOLD TICKS:- >Andre Bachand - PC / Ghislain Lebel - Bloc/ David Price - PC >Diane St.-Jacques - PC [making up her mind about changing parties] >To be posted: Yves Rocheleau - Bloc / Louis Plamondon - Bloc > >Also, some answers have been received from office assistants (we do >not know if the Member of Parliament saw the memo) telling us "THEY" >do not answer SURVEYS. [Assistants are not elected]. > >The question re Post-1901 census records release is very definitely NOT >a survey --- the voters across Canada who like to do family history and >need the 1906 and 1911 census want to know if their elected member will >be SUPPORTIVE of census records release. > >Many Members of Parliament are being guided by incorrect, out-of-date >publicity handouts, of which I already have received about 75!! > >Voters in Canada hope their elected Member will be able to answer >FOR THEM -- not as the Party Caucus dictates. A vote on census >release should be a FREE vote -- I will believe that when I hear it!! > >We have become accustomed to listening to House proceedings on >CPAC -- we now recognize those in attendance and sincerely hope >the Member of Parliament remembers who elected him or her. > >However, with a needed legislation change, Members may feel they >represent only a handful of the Canadian public -- BUT they represent >ALL citizens of Canada on this important vote. There are more than >7.5 million family researchers in Canada -- found in every riding. > >For researched material, printable -- copies had been sent to all of >THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- go to >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > >The Scoreboard -- to be PUBLISHED by provinces BEFORE a federal >election: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm > >When a message is received, it is posted by Gordon Watts. > >Looking forward to POSITIVE messages of SUPPORT for any Motion >or Bill to release the post-1901 census records to National Archives. > >Your little piece of fence to which you are presently clinging or the >BLUE ? will be quickly changed to GOLD if SUPPORTIVE. > >Messages received in both French and English (francais et anglais) >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >25 Crestview Avenue >Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 >Canadian Census Committee > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #4 >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:57:52 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <39A1C200.D479B5F7@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] Prince Edward Island needs HELP re GOLD!!! >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >To all:- >The residents of Prince Edward Island elected THEIR Members of >Parliament to speak on THEIR behalf when in Ottawa. Now, we >ask the residents to contact these MPs for their views on the >release of Post-1901 census records for all of us to research. > >I will gladly accept answers from residents of PEI -- and hope >when the MPs Scoreboard is posted PROVINCIALLY, Prince Edward >Island will be glowing with GOLD -- meaning YES and SUPPORT. > >Those cute little pieces of green fence mean NOTHING -- neither >YES or NO -- The MPs are either FOR (YES) or AGAINST (NO) census >release for FAMILY RESEARCHERS (voters) to use in 2003. > >Present Prince Edward Island totals:- YES = 0; Undecided = 2; >No answer = 2 > >Gordon Watts has done a fantastic job with the Scoreboard at >http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm >Find YOUR Member of Parliament -- We have found MPs reply >to those of their own riding -- as they would like to be re-elected. >However, the Canadian Census Committee is from coast-to-coast!! > >Suggest to the Member of Parliament they look around the office and >find the copy of THE MYTHS OF CENSUS sent to each one by Gordon >Watts - with a CD available if they request it. >(One MP printed off the whole 100 pages -- then found the envelope) >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > >So -- to all researchers who want the 1906 and 1911 census and others, >let's get busy -- a few of us cannot do it for you!!!! We have tried -- >but we find many ASSISTANTS replying with OLD information provided by >Statcan, Fellegi, etc. We wish to hear from the elected Member!! > >The LIBERAL government has now added an extra stumbling-block re the >Report of the Expert Panel, delivered to the Hon. John Manley, PC,MP >on June 30, 2000. SOMEONE in the Liberal Party has given orders to >withhold the report -- if I am incorrect, please contact me!!! > >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >Canada Census Committee >Brampton Centre riding! >25 Crestview Avenue >Brampton, Ontario >L6W 2R8 >1-905-451-3542 > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #5 >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:56:46 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <39A1C1BE.4B538799@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] N.W.T. / YUKON & NUNAVUT ---- NO Replies! >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >To all, especially:- >The Hon. Ethel Blondin-Andrew (L) [NWT] <Blondin-Andrew.E@parl.gc.ca> > >Ms. Louise Hardy (NDP) [YUKON] <Hardy.L@parl.gc.ca> > >Ms. Nancy Karetak-Lindell (L) [NUNAVUT] <Karetak-Lindell.N@parl.gc.ca> >- ----------------------------------------------- >A long time ago, I had a message from Louise Hardy, saying she would >phone me -- so far no word from her!!! My telephone still works! > >Elected Members of Parliament have a duty to reply to any Canadian >on a matter as vital as Canadian census records release -- plus >the NON-REPORT of the Report of the Expert Panel, given to the >Hon. John Manley, PC,MP, June 30th, 2000 -- someone in the Liberal >Party is holding up this report -- it MAY NOT be Mr. Manley! > >There are family researchers in above areas who are also VOTERS -- the >Member of Parliament Scoreboard is colorful -- will be printed >provincially BEFORE THE NEXT FEDERAL ELECTION. > >It is estimated there are at least 7.5 or more million family >researchers >in Canada -- many are already watching the scoreboard as we know >an election is coming in the not too far distant future. > >The ELECTED ones think they represent only their own constituents -- >but census release is a big issue -- THEY represent ALL of CANADA. > >As the above possibly have forgotten about the census release >question, here are several refresher sites:- > >http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm >[Future colors desired only GOLD and RED] > >THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts is printable from >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html >[Every MP received a copy -- likely in the office] > >The above three people are your representatives, contact them, >obtain a YES or No answer of support re census release. Should you >receive any answer at all, please forward to either > >Gordon A. Watts <gordon_watts@telus.net> > >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >Canadian Census Committee >25 Crestview Avenue >Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 >1-905-451-3542 > >______________________________ > >X-Message: #6 >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:27:34 -0400 >From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> >To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <39A1C8F6.B566BA17@home.com> >Subject: [CCC-L] Historical Cemetery -- Good Advice for Provinces >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>From Elaine Robinson <elainer@stn.net> on ONTARIO-L list. > >I know of several unrecognized cemeteries in Nova Scotia -- each >province has these -- possibly our ancestors buried there! >Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> >========================================= >Dear Sharon and all, >In Ontario there is something called the Cemetery Act which governs >everything concerning cemeteries,both old and new. There should be one >for each province. >The ministry in charge of cemeteries had changed from time to time in >Ontario so I'm not sure what branch of your government would be in >charge. However, you should be able to get that information from your >local MPP or call your provincial government offices and find out. > > A copy of the Cemetery Act for your province should be available >from any place which handles government publications. It's easier to >know how to proceed if you know what the act provides for. In Ontario, >the fairly new Cemetery Act, does not allow a cemetery to be officially >moved without certain steps being taken, the main one being official >closure by the provincial government. This is done after a number of >steps have been taken, which should be defined in the Cemetery Act. >If there is a "suspected" cemetery, that is, local stories about a >cemetery on that site, the act requires an archealogical survey to >be done before anything can happen. In Ontario, a cemetery closure >now requires consultation with both the Ontario Historical Society >and the Ontario Genealogical Society. > >Having said all that, there a number of unscrupulous builders, who >will just go ahead if no one says anything, and the cemetery is gone >before anyone knows what is happening. Therefore time is of the >essence. Local support, lobbying local politicians, and lots of >publicity are a good way to keep people aware, while you are finding >out what the legal recourse is. > > >Good luck > >Elaine Robinson >Georgetown Ontario > > > > > >============================== >Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: >Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at >http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > >End of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V00 Issue #250 >***************************************************** > >
To all:- I may have missed one or two -- but here is a good try!! GOLD TICKS:- British Columbia ...... 13 Canadian Alliance and 2 NDP = 15 (less Jim Hart) Alberta....................... 12 Canadian Alliance = 12 Saskatchewan......... 4 Canadian Alliance and 5 NDP = 9 Manitoba................... 4 NDP / 1 PC / 2 Liberals / 1 CA = 8 Ontario....................... 22 Liberal and 1 PC = 23 Quebec..................... 3 PC and 2 Bloc = 5 New Brunswick........ 4 PC and 1 Liberal = 5 Nova Scotia............. 4 PC and 5 NDP = 9 (less Scott Brison) P.E.I. ........................... 0 Newfoundland....... 2 PC NWT/Yukon/Nunavut...0 More another time -- above total is 88 less 2 = 86 (Jim Hart & Scott Brison) The Scoreboard total shows 90 -- I counted and counted -- let me know where I made a mistake, please! Regardless, we need more saying YES!!!!! Looks like we need LOTS of work!!! A few cannot do all the work, a helping hand will be greatly appreciated by the Canada Census Committee. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
>From Elaine Robinson <elainer@stn.net> on ONTARIO-L list. I know of several unrecognized cemeteries in Nova Scotia -- each province has these -- possibly our ancestors buried there! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ========================================= Dear Sharon and all, In Ontario there is something called the Cemetery Act which governs everything concerning cemeteries,both old and new. There should be one for each province. The ministry in charge of cemeteries had changed from time to time in Ontario so I'm not sure what branch of your government would be in charge. However, you should be able to get that information from your local MPP or call your provincial government offices and find out. A copy of the Cemetery Act for your province should be available from any place which handles government publications. It's easier to know how to proceed if you know what the act provides for. In Ontario, the fairly new Cemetery Act, does not allow a cemetery to be officially moved without certain steps being taken, the main one being official closure by the provincial government. This is done after a number of steps have been taken, which should be defined in the Cemetery Act. If there is a "suspected" cemetery, that is, local stories about a cemetery on that site, the act requires an archealogical survey to be done before anything can happen. In Ontario, a cemetery closure now requires consultation with both the Ontario Historical Society and the Ontario Genealogical Society. Having said all that, there a number of unscrupulous builders, who will just go ahead if no one says anything, and the cemetery is gone before anyone knows what is happening. Therefore time is of the essence. Local support, lobbying local politicians, and lots of publicity are a good way to keep people aware, while you are finding out what the legal recourse is. Good luck Elaine Robinson Georgetown Ontario ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/
To all:- The residents of Prince Edward Island elected THEIR Members of Parliament to speak on THEIR behalf when in Ottawa. Now, we ask the residents to contact these MPs for their views on the release of Post-1901 census records for all of us to research. I will gladly accept answers from residents of PEI -- and hope when the MPs Scoreboard is posted PROVINCIALLY, Prince Edward Island will be glowing with GOLD -- meaning YES and SUPPORT. Those cute little pieces of green fence mean NOTHING -- neither YES or NO -- The MPs are either FOR (YES) or AGAINST (NO) census release for FAMILY RESEARCHERS (voters) to use in 2003. Present Prince Edward Island totals:- YES = 0; Undecided = 2; No answer = 2 Gordon Watts has done a fantastic job with the Scoreboard at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Find YOUR Member of Parliament -- We have found MPs reply to those of their own riding -- as they would like to be re-elected. However, the Canadian Census Committee is from coast-to-coast!! Suggest to the Member of Parliament they look around the office and find the copy of THE MYTHS OF CENSUS sent to each one by Gordon Watts - with a CD available if they request it. (One MP printed off the whole 100 pages -- then found the envelope) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html So -- to all researchers who want the 1906 and 1911 census and others, let's get busy -- a few of us cannot do it for you!!!! We have tried -- but we find many ASSISTANTS replying with OLD information provided by Statcan, Fellegi, etc. We wish to hear from the elected Member!! The LIBERAL government has now added an extra stumbling-block re the Report of the Expert Panel, delivered to the Hon. John Manley, PC,MP on June 30, 2000. SOMEONE in the Liberal Party has given orders to withhold the report -- if I am incorrect, please contact me!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre riding! 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542
The following was sent to Members of Parliament as noted:- QUEBEC:- The Right Hon. Jean Chretien - Liberal <pm@pm.gc.ca> The Hon. Alfonso Gagliano - Liberal <Gagliano.A@parl.gc.ca> Clifford Lincoln - Liberal <Lincoln.C@parl.gc.ca> The Hon. Lucienne Robillard - Liberal <Robillard.L@parl.gc.ca> ANYONE WILLING TO WRITE TO ABOVE ELECTED MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT? The provincial scoreboard leaves a lot to be desired!! -------------------------------------------------------- To all Family Researchers in the Province of Quebec:- The answer to the Subject Line question is bluntly this:- When the Member of Parliament hangs onto the little piece of YES/NO green fence, being Non-Committal -- he/she could say YES, or could say NO. The Province of Quebec has 75 elected Members of Parliament, four "fence-sitters" listed above, we want a definite YES or NO. Total making a commitment is 10 -- leaving 65 BLUE ?? [No answers] FOUR others who have committed themselves and have GOLD TICKS:- Andre Bachand - PC / Ghislain Lebel - Bloc/ David Price - PC Diane St.-Jacques - PC [making up her mind about changing parties] To be posted: Yves Rocheleau - Bloc / Louis Plamondon - Bloc Also, some answers have been received from office assistants (we do not know if the Member of Parliament saw the memo) telling us "THEY" do not answer SURVEYS. [Assistants are not elected]. The question re Post-1901 census records release is very definitely NOT a survey --- the voters across Canada who like to do family history and need the 1906 and 1911 census want to know if their elected member will be SUPPORTIVE of census records release. Many Members of Parliament are being guided by incorrect, out-of-date publicity handouts, of which I already have received about 75!! Voters in Canada hope their elected Member will be able to answer FOR THEM -- not as the Party Caucus dictates. A vote on census release should be a FREE vote -- I will believe that when I hear it!! We have become accustomed to listening to House proceedings on CPAC -- we now recognize those in attendance and sincerely hope the Member of Parliament remembers who elected him or her. However, with a needed legislation change, Members may feel they represent only a handful of the Canadian public -- BUT they represent ALL citizens of Canada on this important vote. There are more than 7.5 million family researchers in Canada -- found in every riding. For researched material, printable -- copies had been sent to all of THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- go to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html The Scoreboard -- to be PUBLISHED by provinces BEFORE a federal election: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm When a message is received, it is posted by Gordon Watts. Looking forward to POSITIVE messages of SUPPORT for any Motion or Bill to release the post-1901 census records to National Archives. Your little piece of fence to which you are presently clinging or the BLUE ? will be quickly changed to GOLD if SUPPORTIVE. Messages received in both French and English (francais et anglais) Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Canadian Census Committee
To all, especially:- The Hon. Ethel Blondin-Andrew (L) [NWT] <Blondin-Andrew.E@parl.gc.ca> Ms. Louise Hardy (NDP) [YUKON] <Hardy.L@parl.gc.ca> Ms. Nancy Karetak-Lindell (L) [NUNAVUT] <Karetak-Lindell.N@parl.gc.ca> ------------------------------------------------- A long time ago, I had a message from Louise Hardy, saying she would phone me -- so far no word from her!!! My telephone still works! Elected Members of Parliament have a duty to reply to any Canadian on a matter as vital as Canadian census records release -- plus the NON-REPORT of the Report of the Expert Panel, given to the Hon. John Manley, PC,MP, June 30th, 2000 -- someone in the Liberal Party is holding up this report -- it MAY NOT be Mr. Manley! There are family researchers in above areas who are also VOTERS -- the Member of Parliament Scoreboard is colorful -- will be printed provincially BEFORE THE NEXT FEDERAL ELECTION. It is estimated there are at least 7.5 or more million family researchers in Canada -- many are already watching the scoreboard as we know an election is coming in the not too far distant future. The ELECTED ones think they represent only their own constituents -- but census release is a big issue -- THEY represent ALL of CANADA. As the above possibly have forgotten about the census release question, here are several refresher sites:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm [Future colors desired only GOLD and RED] THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts is printable from http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [Every MP received a copy -- likely in the office] The above three people are your representatives, contact them, obtain a YES or No answer of support re census release. Should you receive any answer at all, please forward to either Gordon A. Watts <gordon_watts@telus.net> Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542
Many thanks to Marilyn Steranko, Special Assistant:- It is our sincere hope that The Hon. Ralph Goodale will either write or dictate a POSITIVE answer re our census release question -- there are many family researchers, even among the ones who voted for him. There is a place for posting messages on the MP Scoreboard: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Click on the names of the MP at the left, this will bring you to the message posting bulletin board for each Member of Parliament. Looking forward to hearing from you and many thanks! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html "Ralph Goodale, M.P." wrote: > On behalf of Minister Goodale, I wish to acknowledge receipt of your > recent email. Please be assured it will be brought to the Minister's > attention at the first available opportunity. > > Marilyn Steranka > Special Assistant to > Ralph Goodale, M.P. > Wascana
http://www.webwombat.com.au/intercom/newsprs/index.htm http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Media/newspapers.html ================== The above newspaper URLs were posted during the past few days. There was another one -- now inaccessible, The first one listed above has been changed to http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ A chart opens up -- newspapers available from around the world. I clicked on CANADA -- you have a choice of "alphabetically" or by "province" -- the lists are printable -- then I find my contact editor name and copy this beside the name of the newspaper. The second URL above is very interesting -- one can even learn Gaelic or have a trip along Nova Scotia's Eastern Shore No. 7 Highway, etc. Above all -- we request all who want census records released to write to the Editor as given for Letters to the Editor. You will find many papers are very interested -- try The Hill Times, Ottawa, this newspaper is "up" on all the latest goings-on at Parliament Hill. Remember -- these are "online" newspapers -- you might also like to send signed letters, full address and a phone number, to YOUR local paper. If every family researcher did this, possibly we might eventually obtain the Report of the Expert Panel. We NEED to do everything we can possibly do to let the government know the Members of Parliament have a responsibility to US - the PEOPLE. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm
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> Hi Mary Ann > I am afraid that you have things reversed re: superceding of Privacy > Act over Statistics Act. > The federal Privacy Act contains a clause that allows release of > "personal" identifiable information on an individual twenty years > following their death. The Act deems that information about an > individual who has been dead for more than 20 years ceases to be > personal information protected by the Privacy Act. It is this > clause that allows the information from the National Registration > File of 1940, and other records to be made available. Gordon et al, I can't believe that I made such a foolish mistake. I honestly thought that the problem was the opposite way around. That'll teach me to read my e-mail BC (before caffeine). Sorry, folks. Mary Anne ----------------- FindersKeepers Specializing in Nova Scotia Books, History & Genealogy in or out of print. Email: finders@knotwork.com URL: COMING SOON!