--------------F685B29F91EDFD89621AEA52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To The Hon. Lloyd Axworthy, M.P.:- I just checked the Member of Parliament Scoreboard -- you are sitting on a very uncomfortable piece of GREEN FENCE. I had hoped you would change your mind and not "follow the crowd" with either BLUE ?? (no reply) or GREEN FENCE (YES or NO). Is there any hope YOU might change? The Scoreboard will be published in every province prior to a federal election -- the little old lady who does family history is one of your VOTERS, this will be regardless of province. By now you will likely know the Report of the Expert Panel was given to Liberal Member John Manley on June 30, 2000. To date we do not know WHY we, you and I, who contributed to the expenses involved re this report, are not allowed to view or know contents of the report. It is disheartening to learn there are so many Liberal Party Members who do not know the difference between YES and NO. Imagine you were trying to put together a simple family history, from the period of 1881 as far as possible. You would be able to access 1891 and 1901 census records. From then on, you would have a big blank wall, thanks to the government. In Manitoba, the first Canadian census, taken in 1906, should have been released in 1998 -- again, government intervened. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census -- Go to OTHER SITES You will find submissions to the Expert Panel, including Genetically Inherited Diseases, submitted by myself with help from others. There is a great deal of information prepared for you and others -- one committee members reads Hansard. The various Bills have been listed -- just click on the number. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Click on Manitoba -- admire your pretty little piece of fence, at present. Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- it covers all the truths that have been kept from OUR elected Members of Parliament. Also, MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling for Prairie Provinces. With the possibility of a coming election, IF you wish to be re-elected, it might be wise to remember there are many family historians and we are the VOTERS -- to elect or not elect. It is a known fact any Member of Parliament might not be allowed to vote as they have stated and promised -- but must vote the way they are told, like little children. When we elect Members of Parliament, we HOPE for the elected MP, living on money from us, to vote for US -- not the Party! Looking forward for an early reply, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre riding 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542 http://www.geocities.co

--------------77AB676EA539D0192150B24A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Hon. Herb Dhaliwal, M.P.:- One requirement of ALL Members of Parliament is that they should either write or instruct a reply to all who write. All citizens of Canada become YOUR constituents on a very important question like census records release. I had hoped to see your SUPPORT SYMBOL change prior to this, letting us know your views re census records release -- it must be uncomfortable on that little piece of YES/NO GREEN FENCE!!! Is there any hope YOU might change? The Scoreboard will be published in every province prior to a federal election -- the little old lady who does family history is one of your VOTERS, regardless of province. By now you will likely know the Report of the Expert Panel was given to Liberal Member John Manley on June 30, 2000. To date we do not know WHY we, you and I, who contributed to the expenses involved re this report, are not allowed to view or know contents of the report. I find it disheartening to learn there are so many in the Liberal party who fail to reply with a positive personal viewpoint. We hope you like the Scoreboard, it will be published provincially before a federal election. Imagine you were trying to put together a simple family history, from the period of 1881 as far as possible. You would be able to access 1891 and 1901 census records. From then on, you would have a big blank wall, thanks to the government. Three prairie provinces have never had a Canadian census released -- should have been available in 1998. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census -- Go to OTHER SITES You will find submissions to the Expert Panel, including Genetically Inherited Diseases, submitted by myself with help from others. There is a great deal of information prepared for you and others -- one committee members reads Hansard. The various Bills have been listed -- just click on the number. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Click on British Columbia -- hope the BLUE ?? (no reply) is soon changed!! Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- it covers all the truths that have been kept from OUR elected Members of Parliament. With the possibility of a coming election, IF you wish to be re-elected, it might be wise to remember there are many family historians and we are the VOTERS -- to elect or not elect. It is a known fact any Member of Parliament might not be allowed to vote as they have stated and promised -- but must vote the way they are told. When we elect Members of Parliament, we HOPE for the elected MP, living on money from us, to vote for US - not the Party! Looking forward for an early positive reply, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.co

To Richard Harris, M.P.:- I just checked the Member of Parliament Scoreboard -- you are sitting on an uncomfortable piece of GREEN FENCE. I had hoped you would change your mind and not "follow the crowd" with either BLUE ??? (no reply) or GREEN FENCE (YES or NO????). Is there any hope YOU might change? The Scoreboard will be published in every province prior to a federal election -- the little old lady who does family history is one of your VOTERS, regardless of province. By now you will likely know the Report of the Expert Panel was given to Liberal Member John Manley on June 30, 2000. To date we do not know WHY we, you and I, who contributed to the expenses involved re this report, are not allowed to view or know contents of the report. As I understand the Canadian Alliance Members of Parliament strongly supported census release, I find it disheartening to learn there are as many in this party who do not know the difference between YES and NO. Imagine you were trying to put together a simple family history, from the period of 1881 as far as possible. You would be able to access 1891 and 1901 census records. From then on, you would have a big blank wall, thanks to the government. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census -- Go to OTHER SITES You will find submissions to the Expert Panel, including Genetically Inherited Diseases, submitted by myself with help from others. There is a great deal of information prepared for you and others -- one committee members reads Hansard. The various Bills have been listed -- just click on the number. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Click on British Columbia -- admire your pretty little piece of fence, at present. Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- it covers all the truths that have been kept from OUR elected Members of Parliament. With the possibility of a coming election, IF you wish to be re-elected, it might be wise to remember there are many family historians and we are the VOTERS -- to elect or not elect. It is a known fact any Member of Parliament might not be allowed to vote as they have stated and promised -- but must vote the way they are told, like little children. When we elect Members of Parliament, we HOPE for the elected MP, living on money from us, to vote for US - not the Party! Looking forward for an early reply, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre riding 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html >

To Gurbax Singh Malhi - MP:- Copies: Murray Calder, MP; Sarkis Assadourian, MP; Paul Szabo, MP; Colleen Beaumier, MP; Albina Guarnieri, MP; Steve Mahoney, MP; Carolyn Parrish, MP; Senator Lorna Milne Dear Mr. Malhi:- Many thanks for replying -- I just checked the Member of Parliament Scoreboard -- you already are sitting on an uncomfortable piece of GREEN FENCE. I had hoped you would change your mind and not "follow the crowd" with either BLUE ??? (no reply) or GREEN FENCE (YES or NO????). To forward any item of paper to the place you sent my letter is a useless effort -- unless Liberal Party members can success, constituents (the VOTERS) are NOT privileged to learn the Report of the Expert Panel. I feel the time period since June 30, 2000 has been ample time for John Manley (or whoever) to clean his glasses and study the report. Mr. Malhi - I do not know how many years you have lived in Canada, or in Bramalea, but imagine you were trying to put together a simple family history, from the period of 1881 as far as possible. Yes, Mr. Malhi you would be able to access 1891 and 1901 census records. >From then on, you would have a big blank wall, thanks to the government. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census -- Go to OTHER SITES You will find submissions to the Expert Panel, including Genetically Inherited Diseases, submitted by myself with help from others. There is a great deal of information prepared for you, others -- one committee members reads Hansard. The various Bills have been listed -- just click on the number. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Click on Ontario -- admire your pretty little piece of fence, at present. Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts -- it covers all the truths that have been kept from OUR elected Members of Parliament. With the possibility of a coming election, IF you wish to be re-elected, it might be wise to remember there are many family historians and we are the VOTERS -- to elect or not elect. Although Sarkis Assadourian (my MP) , Murray Calder and Colleen Beaumier have YES symbols, it is a known fact any Member of Parliament might not be allowed to vote as they have stated and promised -- but the way they are told, like little children. When we elect Members of Parliament, we HOPE for the elected MP, living on money from us, to vote for US - not the Party! See you around Brampton, I am certain!! Watch for the coming press release in The Guardian and The Mississauga News. Also, you, Mr. Malhi are my daughter's Member of Parliament and as a maternity nurse, she believes in family and family history! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Brampton Centre riding 1-905-451-3542 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Malhi, Gurbax Singh - M.P." wrote: > OTTAWA > 2000-08-30 > > Dear Muriel M. Davidson, > > I am pleased to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail message, regarding > census > records for 1911. > > I have forwarded your important e-mail to: > > National Archives Records Disposition Business Centre > National Archives of Canada > 395 Wellington Street > Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N3 > > Thank you for writing. > > Sincerely, > > Gurbax Singh Malhi, M.P. > Bramalea-Gore-Malton-Springdale > > -----Original Message----- > From: Muriel M. Davidson [mailto:davidson3542@home.com] > Sent: June 30, 2000 9:57 PM > To: Malhi, Gurbax Singh - M.P.; davidson3542@home.com; > gordon_watts@telus.net > Subject: Re: We are Looking for YES Voters!!!! > >

To all:- The elected Members of Parliament are still on "vacation", known as the summer break -- until September 18, 2000. There is still part of ONE MONTH left -- lots of time to visit your MP! When YOUR elected Member of Parliament is in his/her riding, plan to visit YOUR Member - even if just to introduce yourself. Above all, you WOULD like to know his/her census thoughts, wouldn't you?. Check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census Go to OTHER SITES -- Tons of information there, thanks to Gordon Watts. Go to <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Check to see if YOUR Member of Parliament has a pretty GOLD tick mark (means YES), a RED "X" that means NO, or a BLUE QUESTION MARK. The blue question mark means HE/SHE did not care enough to answer YOUR letter. Your Member of Parliament works at YOUR expense -- and for YOU --should he/she be in possession of a BLUE X, plan to visit! The GREEN piece of fence means just that -- neither YES or NO! Prepare a letter as if you would be mailing it, complete with name of riding and any title. Either call the riding office to see when your MP is in the office -- or take a chance. By putting the letter (in an envelope) into his/her hand, preferably in front of witnesses, there will be no question the letter was not received. Above all, you would like to query your Member's view re census records release -- preferably answered ON PAPER!!!. To prepare yourself, read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Let us know of any happy outcome -- and should you receive a reply, we would like to know his/her comments. Many have not sent this to us and Gordon Watts, Keeper of the Scoreboard,needs this information BEFORE AN ELECTION -- it will be published! A letter can be typed on a computer (save to disk), or by hand but let your Member of Parliament know YOU expect a positive response when there is mention of census release. Should you prefer to mail your letter, postage is FREE - in Canada Name of MP & Riding / House of Commons / Parliament Buildings / Ottawa, Ontario KIA OA6. Happy writing!!! Keep the petitions coming!!! (Canadian & Non-Canadian) Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and Read: THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts - may be printed http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

To Stockwell Day:- Many Canadians are wishing you well as you hope to bring democratic government to Canada -- it has been missing for too long. Of concern to many voters, who also just happen to be family researchers is HOW will you vote, after elected, on a Motion (M-160 by Jason Kenney), Bill C-484 by Liberal Member Murray Calder, S-15 by Senator Lorna Milne and Bill C-312 by Mac Harb, MP?? Will you SUPPORT the release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records to the National Archives -- so researchers may view these in 2003? Will you SUPPORT the release of the 1906 census records of the three prairie provinces -- their first Canadian census? Do you SUPPORT the 92-year waiting period -- or do you feel this could be shorter, for example, 75 years, without harming privacy of people? There is a Member of Parliament Scoreboard at: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm You will notice many of your present Canadian Alliance Party members have not had the courtesy to reply (the BLUE ?) while others cannot make up his/her mind so are clinging to a small piece of GREEN FENCE. To date YOU belong in the BLUE ?????? category. Also check: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census Scroll down to OTHER SITES -- this is a new site, filled with all the bits and pieces you would need to know to make a POSITIVE answer -- the one your would-be voters wish to hear! [If elected, your name and riding will be added, also your viewpoint] The Scoreboard will be published before the next federal election. THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts is in direct opposite to some of the information presented by Statistics Canada - found at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html While there, you should also print MEMORANDUM OF LAW, written for the three prairie provinces by Lois Sparling, Alberta barrister. We really would like your viewpoint re census release. Mr. Jim Hart was in favor ot it -- but at present, you are hoping for his riding. It was announced that ALL Canadian Alliance members were in favor. This could be a very strong point if it were true -- especially to residents of Ontario, where Liberals, at present, are in majority. Trusting we will hear from you -- YOUR British Columbia voters might like to know! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee member Brampton, Ontario

To: Mr. Mac Harb, M.P. -Ottawa Centre Dear Sir:- Many thanks for the copy of Bill C-312. Thanks to Gordon Watts and his expertise, go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census Choose OTHER SITES Scroll down to where Bill C-312 is highlighted in red. Click on this, and the entire wording of the bill looks a lot better than I could reproduce - with or without a scanner. Gordon Watts has a few other ideas -- we like to keep him busy! This is the FIRST time I have used this site as a reference. The letter from Mr. Harb is posted below for all readers, then check for Bill C-312 as directed above. [You will note other Bills are also listed]. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (crest) Mac Harb, M.P./Depute Ottawa Centre August 23, 2000 Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson Canadian Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Dear Mrs. Davidson: Thank you for your letter concerning the release of Post-1901 Canadian Census Records. I am pleased to support your position and I am enclosing a copy of my private member's bill (C-312 AN ACT TO AMEND THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES ACT OF CANADA ACT and the STATISTICS ACT) which supports the release of data. Sincerely, Mac Harb, MP ------------------------------------- What is the status of Bill C-312? Will it be on the calendar for coming sessions? It will be mentioned in correspondence and mailings -- MMD

Hi Diane. Further to Muriel's response to you, census has been taken in Canada from way before it became Canada. I believe the earliest Census was taken some time in the 1600's. There is currently no place to my knowledge that all censuses that have been released to the public may be viewed. Many genealogy and historical societies have volunteers transcribing Census records that are particular to their localities. Some of these are available on line (at least indexes) while others are available in printed form. Printed extracts, where available, normally have a charge entailed and are frequently available through websites set up by the various organizations. In any case, there is no single source for all censuses and to find what you seek likely will take a great deal of searching on the net. A good bet for information is to join a mail list for the area you are interested in and post a query there. A very good source of information is the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) who have Family History Centres all over the country. For very nominal fees you can obtain microfilm for viewing in their libraries. As Muriel stated, the last Census released in Canada was that for 1901, and unless our campaign is successful there will NEVER be another Census released in Canada. As anyone involved in genealogy knows this would be a truly disastrous situation. I urge everyone to continue pressuring their members of Parliament to support allowing access to Post 1901 Census as allowed by Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Hope this has answered your questions. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> To: "Diane Nault-Lauziere" <amos5@gis.net>; <davidson3542@home.com>; <gordon_watts@telus.net>; <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com>; <ONTARIO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 24 August, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Census? Hi Diane:- Yes, the government demands we fill out census forms every FIVE (5) years -- if we do not, we could be fined. The last census taken in Canada was 1996 -- from that various government agencies and departments find many items of interest, such as:- - migration of people from one area to another -- numbers - need for highway repairs, new highways - need for new hospitals (Brampton, where I live, will have one new hospital before 2003, plus another one before 2016 -- growth of the area) - plus many, many more details and data. However, WE, the people of Canada, have only been allowed to view the last accessible one, the 1901 census, to gain family information. This census was one of the first to contain dates of birth, and some census records contained a list of deaths within the past 10 years. It is the family groups we want, plus relationships, occupation, religion (so we know which church might have records), origin. We do not need or want all the "personal" answers that we are told exist on the 1911 census -- e.g. money earned in 1911 would look like a teen allowance today!!! Also, who cares if our grandparents were married or unmarried -- that was their business -- I would hate to do research of the present census records!! When will one be able to view these records? If we are successful -- with assistance from many, especially in Ontario and Quebec -- and IF we get the 1911 census released, we would be able to view it in 2003, unless the 92-year period is changed. At present, we are wondering WHY Hon. John Manley has not been able to reveal the Report of the Expert Panel -- delivered to him June 30, 2000. My wish:- Every family researcher in Ontario and Quebec contact his/her Member of Parliament and ask if he/she SUPPORTS release of the post- 1901 census records. (We have found MPs respond to their constituent as being a Member of Parliament has not only a good salary, perks, but a pension if he/she retires after six (6) years. -- The MPs want to be re-elected). Gordon Watts may also add a few remarks -- he has been dealing with the Expert Panel -- I have been "bugging" the Members of Parliament. Should anyone contact THEIR Member of Parliament and receive an answer -- we will have the Scoreboard updated very quickly -- just send us the wording of the letter, please. Looking forward to replies - to either Gordon or myself! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm ================ Diane Nault-Lauziere wrote: > Hello, > > I saw your answer to Walter about the censuses and you mentioned that there > were censuses taken every 5 years also. When did these start and can we see > them? Thank you > Diane

To all, with new Scoreboard totals:- Go to: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm The following was the result of a long awaited phone call from Louise Hardy, MP -- to read it on the message board go to the MPs Scoreboard, then N.W.T, Yukon & Nunavut. Click on the left side where her name is listed. Her message looks much better there, in print, than after a trip through e-mail -- I had hoped Ms. Hardy would be more positive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 08/22/2000 - email from Muriel M. Davidson to MP Louise Hardy. To Louise Hardy, MP:- Many thanks for the long-awaited phone call and although I am disappointed you do not support release of census records, I do understand your viewpoint. The release of the overdue Report of the Expert Panel, delivered to the Hon. John Manley, PC, MP, June 30, 2000, would change the thoughts and viewpoints of many elected Members of Parliament. Sincerely hope you will be able to use your vantage point to add pressure on the Liberal Party for release of this report. As I mentioned, it may not be Mr. Manley who is holding up the report, but someone else in the Liberal Party. Re Jason Kenney's Motion M-160, it is basically PROTECTION of the census records, not release -- moving them to National Archives, the motion does not cover RELEASE to researchers, as does the 1901 census. Should you wish to change your opinion, please contact me, Many thanks again for calling, Muriel M. Davidson Canada Census Committee ---------------------------------------------------- My personal viewpoint is that both Liberal and Bloc Members, plus some of the supposedly supportive Canadian Alliance are waiting for the Report of the Expert Panel. In the meantime, remember, SEPTEMBER 10TH IS MAIL DAY -- not e-mail! (More another time) Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 1-905-451-3542

To all, with new Scoreboard totals:- Go to: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm The following was the result of a long awaited phone call from Louise Hardy, MP -- to read it on the message board go to the MPs Scoreboard, then N.W.T, Yukon & Nunavut. Click on the left side where her name is listed. Her message looks much better there, in print, than after a trip through e-mail -- I had hoped Ms. Hardy would be more positive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 08/22/2000 - email from Muriel M. Davidson to MP Lousie Hardy. To Louise Hardy, MP:- Many thanks for the long-awaited phone call and although I am disappointed you do not support release of census records, I do understand your viewpoint. The release of the overdue Report of the Expert Panel, delivered to the Hon. John Manley, PC, MP, June 30, 2000, would change the thoughts and viewpoints of many elected Members of Parliament. Sincerely hope you will be able to use your vantage point to add pressure on the Liberal Party for release of this report. As I mentioned, it may not be Mr. Manley who is holding up the report, but someone else in the Liberal Party. Re Jason Kenney's Motion M-160, it is basically PROTECTION of the census records, not release -- moving them to National Archives, the motion does not cover RELEASE to researchers, as does the 1901 census. Should you wish to change your opinion, please contact me, Many thanks again for calling, Muriel M. Davidson Canada Census Committee ---------------------------------------------------- My personal viewpoint is that both Liberal and Bloc Members, plus some of the supposedly supportive Canadian Alliance are waiting for the Report of the Expert Panel. In the meantime, remember, SEPTEMBER 10TH IS MAIL DAY -- not e-mail! (More another time) Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 1-905-451-3542

To all hoping for post-1901 census records release:- The mailman brought a very welcome letter this morning -- 20 SIGNATURES from Danville, California and vicinity. The Non-Canadian or Non-Resident assistance is needed and appreciated. Many have roots in Canada -- others know our two countries live side by side and work together. The 20 signatures will be given to Senator Lorna Milne next weekend. Her Bill S-15 has had second reading. I do not know the date of the third reading and vote -- this may not be known until after Sept. 18, when the fall sessions of House of Commons and Senate resume. In the meantime, Senator Milne has a nice way of reminding everyone about the census release problem -- she presents a stack of petitions, thus keeping all aware -- plus a record in Hansard, the daily records. Canadian petitions are also needed, both for House of Commons and Senate -- Murray Calder has Bill C-484, a duplicate of S-15. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Addresses are on petitions -- in Word and WordPerfect. Keep 'em coming, please! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm

Hi Sharon:- Many thanks for writing re post-1901 census records release. The Members of Parliament Scoreboard is very interesting -- also, it will be published provincially prior to a federal election. Sharon, read up on THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html As for your other members being Americans -- possibly you should go with extra copies of the petition -- others might wish to add pages to yours. The petition could be sent in as a GROUP PETITION, so only one (1) of the Page 1 is needed -- how many pages of 25 signatures could your group put together??? I received a petition with 20 signatures from California today. Great!!! Please ask them, for me, that we are requesting all the assistance we can get -- we all need the census records opened. Invite them to assist, using my name -- then you will not feel you are "stepping on toes". People outside your group could sign -- we will not ask!! Although I live in Canada, was born in Canada, I have worked in United States, also my mother was born in Maine. My dual-citizenship card comes in handy at times! Please tell your group I will be looking forward to a FAT envelope!!! The TIME for petitions is ANY TIME -- should there be a deadline, we will announce it loud and clear!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Canada ------------------------------------------- Muriel, I have read the scoreboard on the Census. It was interesting to look at the names of the Members of Parliament and note that they have not committed to a FOR or AGAINST stand. The petition that was listed, I did print the Non-Resident one. What surprises me is that no member of our Board of directors has mentioned this at all. There was mention of the vote on the Census but nothing else . (since we are Americans?) Well, on Tuesday Sept 5 there is a Board of Directors Meeting. I will be bringing my copy of the petition with me. I would like to leave it on the desk for the members to sign. But that would be stepping on someone's toes. As a member of the Board of Directors I will do my best to collect signatures as quickly as possible. When does this petion need to be in by? Thank you Sharon Sinclair<sharon.s.sinclair@worldnet.att.net> PS: FYI, My Sinclair line just goes to a 1815 Protestant marriage of a Scotsmen to a Loranger-Rivard in Trois Rivieres. Settled in Nicolet.But then my grandmother was a Lafrance-Pinel, there is also Bellemare-Lacourse-Gelinas, so the lineage is more French-Canadian then Scottish! ---------------------------- Should any resident of Quebec have the above surnames, I feel certain Sharon would be pleased to hear from you. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm

Greetings All. Just a quick note to let you know that I have received a response to my Access to Information Request relating to the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census, and the Report of the Environics Research Omnibus surveys relating to Historic Census. My request, sent 14 August 2000, was received by the ATI Officer for Industry Canada 21 August 2000. The response dated 22 August 2000 stated that "every effort will be made to complete it as soon as possible." Under the terms of the Access to Information Act I should have a response to my request within 30 days. We will, however, have to wait and see. To my knowledge John Manley has yet to view the Report of the Expert Panel. I have recently made many changes to the Post 1901 Census Project website. Most pages have been updated and will continue to be updated as I have new information to add. Please visit at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census New links on the "Other Sites" page include those to several submissions made to the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census. These include those of Statistics Canada head Ivan Fellegi, National Archivist Ian Wilson, and Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips. Other new links take you to Bills and Motions of the House of Commons and the Senate that relate to Post 1901 Census. If you have a webpage having information and/or links relating to Post 1901 Census and would like a reciprocal link please contact me. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm This message has been posted to the Alberta-L, Canada-Census-Campaign-L, Can-British-Columbia-L, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Roots-L, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. Permission to forward without notification is granted.

Wish we had more letters like this one -- Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> -------------------------------------------------- [Crest] House of Commons Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6 JIM JONES, M.P. MARKHAM August 10, 2000 Mrs. Muriel M. Davidson Canadian Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 Dear Mrs. Davidson:- Please accept my thanks for your recent inquiry into the release of post-1901 census records. I am delighted to respond to you, and I am hopeful that this letter can serve to alleviate your concerns. In recent months a number of genealogists and historians have articulated their collective disappointment that the 1911 census records will not be available for review in the public domain in the year 2003. These individuals had previously expected the 1911 census records to be made available for research purposes in the year 2003 because census records have been, up to this point, accessible to the public after 92 years. However, censuses administered after 1901 fall subject to the Statistics Act that explicitly prohibits the release of all census records. This prohibition does not allow anyone to access census records for any reason; the only exception is that an individual may access his or her own personal records – but that is the only current exception. An individual may not access the census records of anyone else, not even those belonging to his or her immediate family members, nor even those records belonging to members of his ancestral family tree. Many have argued that the release of census records is crucial to furthering the knowledge Canadians hold of the past, of their communities, of their families, and of themselves. Of course, access to census records is what enables individuals, scholars, researchers, and historians alike to trace their respective histories and to answer questions about their past: from questions as simple, yet so personally important, as when exactly one’s ancestry arrived in Canada, to questions as drawn and as nationally significant as the face of the brave men who fought and defended Canada in the First World War. Today – nearly 100 years since the Laurier government instituted the change to the accessibility of census records – it is true that times have changed dramatically, and so have cultural values. While today we place the utmost importance on personal issues, back then, as archival information indicates, the reason for keeping census records forever confidential was that Canadians feared the information would leak to tax collectors and military personnel – not because Canadians wanted to keep the information confidential forever. The goal wasn’t to keep valuable census information from historians. At a time when Canadians are increasingly interested in their past, and when private foundations such as the newly created HISTORICA are allocating millions to improve the teaching and dissemination of Canadian history, it does not make sense that we would be barred from access to our own history. While I certainly do appreciate the concern for statutory integrity and privacy interests, I do not believe that releasing the census records 92 years after the administration of the census would pose and infringement on either of these principles. This would not be an infringement of statutory integrity, neither an invasion of privacy, since after 92 years those who complete the census as adults are likely deceased, at which point the concern for privacy is moot. Furthermore, Canadians today have been quite vocal in their support for releasing census Records for research purposes. Given the overwhelming support for the release of the Records, we surely cannot ignore the call of Canadians. This is an instance where the sensibilities of Canadians – what they feel is right and justifiable – must be recognized. If Canadians of today do not feel that the release of census records is an infringement upon the privacy rights of Canadians of yesterday, then we as legislators have no choice but to acknowledge their call. It is for this reason that I will continue to support the release of post-1901 census records. Sincerely, JIM JONES, M.P. Markham Offices:- 231 Amber Street, Markham, Ontario L3R 3J7 tel: (905) 948-8200 / fax: (905) 948-8181/ e-mail: hjjones@ibm.net Room 679, Confederation Bldg., House of Commons, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 Tel: (613) 996-3374 / fax: (613) 992-3921 / e-mail: jonesj@parl.gc.ca

Many thanks for writing, Sharon! A look at the Members of Parliament Scoreboard at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm will let readers know there should be letters sent to Quebec MPs. Non-Canadians are welcome!! http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Petitions are still arriving!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ------------------------------- Muriel, Thank you for putting the information on the Post-1901 Census on the Quebec message board.I have been very interested in what is going on with it. But have no input as I am not a Canadian. In terms of the effect of the Census to me I would find out information about the my Grandmother's family. Also the elusive and much traveled Great grandparents. I belong to the French Canadian Genealogical Society of Connecticut. And there has been much discussion about the Census and what kind of information would be available from it. As a direct line family member it would greatly add to my family history. Even though (as I understand it) the people in, order to voluntarily give the census taker information they wanted the information destroyed at a lated date and never used. ------------------------------------------------ Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Was this the only option that was offered at the time? -------------------------------------------------- Since many people are like myself just realizing that they come from French-Canadian genes, that is very sad. They are searching for some roots that give more information then"My ancestor came over on the Mayflower. Or, My family has been in this country for 200 years." I was shocked to find out that my father's family had been in the New World back into the early 1600's (even though in Canada). But connections can be elusive with the many name changes that have occured. Since my Great Grandparents lived in the Eastern Districts and were not Protestant I have the hardest time getting French-Canadian-Catholic information from there. Hopefully the Census as an Extremely Historical piece of information will be released so that we descendants may benefit. It is we family members that hope for this information. Sharon Sinclair <sharon.s.sinclair@worldnet.att.net>

MAY BE TRANSLATED & FORWARDED -- WE ALL NEED CENSUS RELEASED!! To all in QUEBEC:- When one looks at the Member of Parliament Scoreboard for the province of Quebec, it looks like mainly ONE color was known -- BLUE -- meaning the MPs did not reply to correspondence. It has been found that Members of Parliament generally respond to their constituents -- although on a matter as important as the Canadian census release -- and the non-report of the Expert Panel -- Members of Parliament have a duty to reply to all Canadians!!! They represent ALL of US -- not just a few in their home riding!!! Some of the Members of Parliament Scoreboard have answered YES, meaning they SUPPORT release of Post-1901 Canadian census records. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm The scoreboard will be published BEFORE a federal election!!!! Read THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts and MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling, Alberta barrister (written for the prairie provinces) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html All members of Parliament received THE MYTHS OF CENSUS in April, 2000. Census activity includes PETITIONS -- both to House of Commons and Senate: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Addresses are on petitions, both Word and WordPerfect. Also, we have both English and French language petitions. Senator Lorna Milne has had second reading of her Bill S-15, Murray Calder had first reading of a duplicate Bill C-484. Jason Kenney of Alberta, has third hour of debate and vote on his Motion M-160 Sept. 20, 2000. Letters are need to above -- if YOUR Member of Parliament has a BLUE ?, visit the riding office! He or she should answer re SUPPORT!!! Hon. John Manley, PC, MP received the report of the Expert Panel June 30, 2000 -- His address is given here: House of Commons, Parliament Buildings, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 FREE postage when mailed in Canada -- use large envelopes so your letter is not missed. Any answers -- please let us know -- Gordon Watts is scoreboard keeper! French language answers -- <jeannine.ouellet@sympatico.ca> English language answers may be sent to me, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee

To all:- The following URL was sent to me -- a great change from census memos -- part of my genealogy searches!! http://www.royalprovincial.com/index.htm When site opens, click on SEARCH SITE Scroll down until you see a place to type a name. I typed NEIL CAMPBELL, received 10 sites to visit -- so try it!! The history of Neil Campbell is there, a picture of the home he built back in 1784. The home is now Seascape Restaurant and the food is recommended -- also my old home was three miles from there. If anyone has Loyalists who were here about 1783, you will find them if their names have been added. Enjoy!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/

To all:- Many have asked what I meant by THE MYTHS OF CENSUS, available for printing (minus copyright material) at the following URL:- http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html or http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml There are SIX main MYTHS OF CENSUS:- 1. There was a PROMISE made by the government of Sir Wilfred Laurier that confidentiality of Census was FOREVER. 2. Respondents to Census were TOLD about this PROMISE. 3. The Census of 1906 was the first in which Rules and Regulations relating to Census and Statistics were subject to the "force of law". The process by which secrecy of name- identifiable Census records coming under the "force of law" was a deliberate, well thought out result of the legislative process. 4. Release of name-identifiable information in the distant future was a reason for confidentiality concerns of respondents to Census. 5. A MAJOR INTENT of early Census legislation was to ensure that Schedules of Census containing name-identified information would NEVER be available for future historical or genealogical research. 6. Without confidentiality that lasts forever, respondents will be reluctant to fill out Census or will not respond truthfully. ========================================= A personal note or two:- Years ago, my grandfather listed all answers he gave on various census records, told me they would be available for me in later years. He was a proud, family type of man -- wish he would be here to add his two cents' worth today! My aunt was born in 1902, still hale and hearty -- lives in a nursing home in Liverpool, Nova Scotia. She told me she can remember the excitement her parents enjoyed filling out the first Canadian census records -- for them -- they came from Maine in 1909. Her comment to me today was "The politicians have it all wrong". An invitation to everyone:- Print the researched data that Gordon Watts found and his reasons for above six MYTHS OF CENSUS - study it -- then contact your elected Member of Parliament. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canadian Census Committee

Hi Teresa:- Many thanks for forwarding your reply from Mr. Charlie Penson, MP. Like all of us, we are anxiously awaiting the Report of the Expert Panel -- many have wondered how long it took to review a report. Gordon Watts has been in contact with Dr. Pamela White, secretary of the Expert Panel -- has been asking on our behalf. As soon as anything is known, you may be certain it will be posted for all to read. However, Members of Parliament have an advantage -- as elected representatives THEY could also ask on OUR behalf, but will THEY??? Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Teresa Shannon wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Penson, Charlie - M.P. <Penson.C@parl.gc.ca> > To: <tshannon@nb.sympatico.ca> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:34 PM > Subject: Census > > Dear Teresa: > > Thank you for writing about the proposed changes to the Statistics Canada > Act that would allow for the release of census records taken after 1901. > > For your information, an independent panel (Expert Panel on Access to > Historical Census Records) was created to study the matter. The report > was completed in June and sent to the Minister's office for review. It is > my > understanding that as soon as the Minister has a chance to review it, it > will be made public. > > Prior to developing a position on this matter, I would like to read the > panel's recommendations. > > Again, thank you for contacting me. > > Best wishes, > Charlie Penson, M.P. > Peace River > P.S. The Statistics Canada website is located at: http://www.statcan.ca in > case you would like to read some of the submissions and find out more > about > the panel. > >

Hi Teresa:- Many thanks for forwarding your reply from Mr. Charlie Penson, MP. Like all of us, we are anxiously awaiting the Report of the Expert Panel -- many have wondered how long it took to review a report. Gordon Watts has been in contact with Dr. Pamela White, secretary of the Expert Panel -- has been asking on our behalf. As soon as anything is known, you may be certain it will be posted for all to read. However, Members of Parliament have an advantage -- as elected representatives THEY could also ask on OUR behalf, but will THEY??? Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Teresa Shannon wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Penson, Charlie - M.P. <Penson.C@parl.gc.ca> > To: <tshannon@nb.sympatico.ca> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:34 PM > Subject: Census > > Dear Teresa: > > Thank you for writing about the proposed changes to the Statistics Canada > Act that would allow for the release of census records taken after 1901. > > For your information, an independent panel (Expert Panel on Access to > Historical Census Records) was created to study the matter. The report > was completed in June and sent to the Minister's office for review. It is > my > understanding that as soon as the Minister has a chance to review it, it > will be made public. > > Prior to developing a position on this matter, I would like to read the > panel's recommendations. > > Again, thank you for contacting me. > > Best wishes, > Charlie Penson, M.P. > Peace River > P.S. The Statistics Canada website is located at: http://www.statcan.ca in > case you would like to read some of the submissions and find out more > about the panel. > >