To all:- Today's mail brought the following:- 45 signatures from Allen County Genealogical Meeting of Indiana sent by Linda Churchward, Fort Wayne, IN 25 signarures from Westland, MI LDS Library, Canton, MI sent by Virginia Garner. Please note the correct e-mail address is <davidson3542@home.com> The other one is an old one -- wish I could have kept part of it. Many thanks -- I know Senator Lorna Milne will be please, KEEP 'EM COMING!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee

Q: Will YOU support Jason Kenney's Motion M-160? A: A Simple YES or NO, please Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm ----------------------- All Blue ??? and Green Fences contacted in this way - personally. I did not contact Monte Solberg or Elsie Wayne. We will see -- if not, it is a reminder!! Muriel <davidson3542@home.com>

Q: Will YOU support Jason Kenney's Motion M-160? A: A Simple YES or NO, please Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm ----------------------- All Blue ??? and Green Fences contacted in this way - personally. I did not contact Monte Solberg or Elsie Wayne. We will see -- if not, it is a reminder!! Muriel <davidson3542@home.com>

(Crest) House of Commons Chambre des Communes CANADA Elsie E. Wayne, L.L.D.,D.P.A.,D.Litt.,M.P. Saint John, New Brunswick Deputee pour Saint John (Nouveau Brunswick) Ottawa September 12, 2000 Mrs. Muriel Davidson Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Dear Mrs. Davidson, I am writing in response to your letter regarding the use of Census data for genealogical purposes. Rest assured the PC Party has pursued this issue with the Honourable John Manley, Minister responsible for Statistics Canada, since the fall of 1998. The government took some time before answering the enquiries of the PC Party, which wrote to Minister Manley on behalf of the many Canadians who have contacted us on this matter. Mr. Manley's responding correspondence states that he is considering two options submitted by Statistics Canada: - Amending the Statistics Act to allow records, starting with the 2001 Census, to be transferred to the National Archives of Canada and to be subsequently made available to the public; or - Retroactively changing the confidentiality provisions of the Statistics Act to allow the 1911 Census and all censuses taken thereafter to be eventually placed in the public domain. In either scenario proposed by Statistics Canada, 92 years would need to elapse from the time of the respective Census before the public would be permitted to access these records, which is in keeping with current regulations pursuant to the Privacy Act. I would welcome your views on these two options, as well as suggestions for alternatives. In my view, I believe neither of these scenarios fully addresses the concerns you and many others have raised. Should the government's current review fail to be satisfactory, the PC Party will examine possibly legislative action to make sure that this issue is resolved. I thank you for taking the time to write to me on this important matter. Yours truly, [Signature] Elsie Wayne, M.P. Deputy Leader, Progressive Conservative Party of Canada OTTAWA: Room 436-N, Centre Block/House of Commons/Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 Ph: (613) 947-4571 / Fax: (613) 947-4574 Constituency: 36 King Street, Saint John, NB E2L 1G3 Ph: (506) 636-5177 / Fax: (506) 636-5190

Hi, Muriel, I think we have given enough encouragement to our subscribers to act on this petition thing. I would appreciate that we now let things go its course and don't keep plugging away on this list. All subscribers are aware including me, and please no more prodding. Cheers, John Merz <hessian@cgocable.net> ============================= Should any resident of Quebec wish to ask any questions, I will be very happy to answer same. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm

Greetings All. I forward for your interest a response I received from Mary Ledoux, Access to Information and Privacy Coordinator of Statistics Canada. The message which prompted this response is copied below. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ledoux, Mary - DACS/SACD" <mary.ledoux@statcan.ca> To: "'Gordon A. WATTS'" <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September, 2000 5:23 AM Subject: RE: Information available from Census Hello, Gordon. I read with interest the copy of the e-mail you sent me and can only marvel at how messages are communicated -- and I'm not referring to the medium but to the message itself! You are correct, Gordon, in your understanding that individuals can get their own personal information from the census records, whether it be 1996 or 1911. This is a right under the federal Privacy Act and is not purpose specific. There is also no cost for the information. In the case of requests for information from the Census for households where there is more than one adult, written consent from the other adult members of the household would be required if we were to release the entire record. From an operational perspective, the only requirement is that the person be able to provide us with their address at the time of the census. This is because the microfilmed census records are arranged geographically and the address is needed, therefore, to conduct the search. As well, Statistics Canada has had in place for many years (even pre-dating the Privacy Act which came into force in 1983) a program called the Census Pension Searches Program. This program was set up to provide individuals with proof of age or length of residence in Canada from census and 1940 National Registration records in support of application for pensions, citizenship, passports and similar situations where other more preferred administrative records (for example, birth certificates) are required but no longer exist or were never issued. Requests for searches are made using an "Application and Authorization for a Search of Census and 1940 National Registration Records". Again, there is no charge for this service. I believe this is to what the woman with whom you were corresponding would have been referring. Generally speaking, only the person named in the record can have access to his or her own information. In the case of deceased persons, however, information may be obtained on request of the person authorized by law to administer the estate of the deceased, but only for the purposes of such administration. A copy of the letters of administration or other proof of estate administration and a certified copy of the death certificate must be provided. Similarly for dependent adults, on the written request of their legal representative and with a certified copy of the court order naming the representative, information from that person's census records may be provided. Requests of this kind originate in many cases from Public Trustees who are administering the estate of dependent adults. As you can see Gordon, there are some similarities in the message from the woman below and what I've told you, but its not quite the free-for-all she described. All requests of the latter two types (for deceased individuals and dependent adults) go through my office for review so if there are any further questions about this process, I would be pleased to answer them. With best regards, Mary -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. WATTS [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 5:01 PM To: Mary LEDOUX- StatCan Subject: Information available from Census Hi Mary. Have been going through some back email and came across one that was sent to me this past January. I have copied part of it below and would like your comment regarding it. I have been aware that any individual could get information from Census on themselves but was under the impression the information available would pertain ONLY to the individual requesting it, and not to any others, even members of the immediate family. Can you please straighten me out on this? Thanks. Gordon =========================== "Hi Gordon. I was always under the impression that there was NO way that you could get information off of census that was not available to the public, for ANY reason. In the Genforum Chat room for Genealogy a lady who we believe lives in Ontario is always saying that she got her family's data from the Canadian 1911 census with NO problem. A couple of us got into quite an argument on this subject, so I decided to check it out for myself. I phoned Stats Canada this morning and told the lady about the argument in the chat room. She then confirmed YES that you can get data about YOURSELF and your IMMEDIATE family on the 1911 census providing that you submit sworn documented proof that this was your family and the ADDRESS where they lived when the census was taken. All you had to do was send to Stats Canada and ask for a Post 1901 Census information form. I'm SURE she said on ANY census after 1901, but since we were talking about the 1911, I just mentioned that year. I can't see Stats Canada giving out data from say the 1981, 1991 Census etc as not enough time has lapsed. But since the 1911 was due to be released in 2001, I can see where Stats Canada would be willing to release this immediate family data, since 99.99 percent of them would be deceased. Nothing was said about having to pay a fee, and nothing about the data only being released to people who were looking for proof of age."

Many thanks, Joy for posting this excerpt!! My father's brother, born in Nova Scotia, enlisted in the United States Army, served overseas, in action and afterwards, returning to visit his mother about 1920, so we are told. He settled in Minneapolis, Minnesota -- no record of naturalization to be found. Your explanation gives me the reason I could not find this part of my research. To readers of the CENSUS list -- yes, I am also searching!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ Joy Reisinger CG wrote: > To quote a small portion from the book by Loretto Dennis Szucs, "They Became > Americans: Finding naturalization records and ethnic origins" (Salt Lake > City: Ancestry, 1998) pp. 42-43: > An act of 17 July 1862 stated that: "Any alien, of the age of twenty-one > years and upwards, who has enlisted, or may enlist in the armies of the > United States, either the regular or the volunteer forces, and has been, or > may be hereafter, honorably discharged, shall be admitted to become a > citizen of the United States, upon his petition, without any previous > declaration of intention to become such; and he shall not be required to > prove more than one year's residence." See page 43 for further discussion on > the topic. > Joy Reisinger CG > > >I doubt if they were asked for naturalization papers at the time of > enlistment. < > > ==== QUEBEC Mailing List ==== > We have very few rules and regulations on how to use this > list, when in doubt - check the mail list archives, or > write privately to the host of this list hessian@cgocable.net > John Merz will try to help you a.s.a.p. Thank You.

The following message sent to the eight (8) elected Members of Parliament of Peel County -- all members of the Liberal Party. Census Scoreboard Standings:- G - Assadourian, Sarkis - Brampton Centre (my riding) G - Beaumier, Colleen - Brampton West - Mississauga G - Calder, Murray - Dufferin-Peel-Wellington-Grey ? - Guarnieri, Albina - Mississauga East ? - Mahoney, Steve - Mississauga West [no e-mail address] F - Malhi, Gurbax Singh - Bramalea-Gore-Malton ? - Parrish, Carolyn - Mississauga Centre ? - Szabo, Paul - Mississauga South Also, Senator Lorna Milne (Peel) * * * * * * * * * To all:- Monday, September 18, 2000 marks a new beginning as the Fall Sessions of the House of Commons starts another season of working for US. All know I have been dedicated to release of the Post-1901 Canadian Census Records - as a citizen, a researcher, a historian -- for personal reasons, not for profitable gain. I had hoped elected members would also share this viewpoint as we search for family members, also diseases. The above symbols beside your respective names are as shown at <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Murray Calder has Bill C-484, identical to Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-15. As all represent various sections of Peel County, are you not supportive of your fellow citizens? It certainly does not seem that way. Many have not answered even paper letters, not just e-mails. Mr. Steve Mahoney does not have an internet e-mail address. Go to <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census> All sections may be NEW to some of you, but check "Other Sites" This will be expanded in days to come with direct links to Hansard, which will assist everyone in locating pertinent facts by going to only one site. While at this site, click on "Genetically Inherited Diseases" -- a strong reason for opening the 1911 and later census records. Many will be watching CPAC on Sept. 20, 2000 when Jason Kenney, MP has the third hour of debate on Motion M-160 at 6:30 EST. Peel County residents knew Mart Kenney and his Ranch at Woodbridge -- Jason is a grandson of Mart Kenney and we will be watching to see who supports him in his census release motion. Peel County is only one area -- why cannot all Members of Parliament be united? One cannot say they are following party dictates, as the answers came from the Members of Parliament personally -- the ones who bothered to answer. To Sarkis Assadourian -- Someone has to lead the way!!! Will YOU? As one of your constituents, I am counting on you -- YOU are in Ottawa, I am here in Brampton. Let's see a change in Scoreboard listings -- census records are important to many in Peel County -- we are the VOTERS!! Replies to: Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542 cc: The Brampton Guardian Mississauga News Caledon Citizen

Hi Muriel, Just read the Globe report also heard the same thing on the radio on the way to work. If he shuffles the Cabinet right after the session starts then why would he want to call an early election, the two don't go together. Personally I wish he would step down and let Paul Martin run before Paul decides to quit the party, hate to lose a good man like Paul Martin. Regards Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) and your Host for the Simcoe County Genweb page at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml Wasaga Beach, Ontario, Canada 1. Historic Plaques of Ontario 644 Plaques online, part of the Historic Plaques of the World Project, Provincial & State Hosts neededl 2. The Canadian Query Boards at http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html

To all:- Very often, newspapers (even the very accredited ones) go with a lead story that could be fact -- or it could be fiction. This is on my internet news from Globe and Mail -- SHOULD be quite trustworthy -- BUT to date The Right Hon. Jean Chretien has not stated this openly. The House of Commons reopens its fall sessions on Monday, Sept. 18, 2000 -- BE PREPARED!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/TopNational/20000916/ULIBSM.html

If every voter did a bit of writing to his/her Member of Parliament, we may get some answers. When sending an e-mail, have the printer on, print a copy and tuck it inside an envelope, address the envelope -- then drop in the nearest mail box. Complete name, address are needed -- so MPs will reply. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee ------------------------- Letter from Shirley Dumas on the ONTARIO List. I have just spent a few minutes sending Email messages to the Members of Parliament of British Columbia. I didn't cover them all, yet, but I will. I sent messages to the undecided and fence-sitters asking them to Please vote in favour of the release, etc. and messages to the ones who were in favour, thanking them for their decision. I finally finished my Emails to B.C. Members of Parliament. 17 "Please" messages 16 "Thank You" messages. Shirley Dumma Madeira Park, B.C. Canada sdumma@dccnet.com

To all: It is interesting to note the comparison of numbers between the provinces and territories of Canada. The following comparison chart will be published WEEKLY so let's try for GOLD and RED. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm As of Sept. 12, 2000, Members of Parliament Scoreboard totals were:- GOLF (Yes) - 92/RED X (No) - 8 / GREEN FENCES (Yes/No) - 57 and BLUE ??? (No Answers) - 144 -- Total Number of MPs = 301 Of this total, delete 2 GOLD tick marks for Jim Hart (British Columbia) and Scott Brison <Nova Scotia) -- we have yet to learn how Joe Clark and Stockwell Day feel about census records release. GOLD TICKS - YES are shown as follows: British Columbia - 16 Alberta ------- 12 Saskatchewan - 9 Manitoba----------- 9 Ontario-------- 25 Quebec------------ 5 New Brunswick---- 5 Nova Scotia - 9 Newfoundland - 2 RED X - NO are as follows:- British Columbia - 1 Alberta - 1 Manitoba ---------- 1 Ontario-------------- 4 Yukon -- 1 GREEN FENCE (Yes/No) are as follows:- British Columbia - 8 Alberta---------- 5 Saskatchewan - 1 Manitoba----------- 2 Ontario--------- 25 Quebec------------ 8 New Brunswick - 4 Nova Scotia - 2 P.E.I. ---------------- 2 BLUE ???? means No Reply received:- British Columbia - 9 Alberta---------- 8 Saskatchewan - 4 Manitoba---------- 2 Ontario--------- 50 Quebec------------61 New Brunswick---- 1 Nova Scotia -- 0 P.E.I.----------------- 2 Newfoundland--- 5 N.W.Territories - 1 Nunavut---------- 1 It is easy to tell where letters should be mailed, is it not? FREE Postage -- If you send an e-mail, print a copy and mail it to (Member of Parliament)/House of Commons/ Ottawa ON/K1A 0A6 Fun with Numbers:- Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census >>>>>> Other Sites

Greetings All. Unfortunately I have experienced another delay in obtaining the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census Records. Because I knew the Report was sitting on John Manley's desk I sent my original Access To Information Request, along with my check for $5.00, to the ATIP officer of Industry Canada. This request was directed to "Industry Canada - Statistics Canada - Minister of Industry" and requested both the Report of the Expert Panel and the Report of the Environic Research Opinion Survey results. After sending my request, the Environics Research Survey report was posted to the Statistics Canada website and so the second part of my request was satisfied. A little over a week ago I received a letter, dated 6 September 2000, from an ATIP coordinator in Industry Canada that stated "Departmental officials have informed us that the report you are seeking is posted on the Statistics Canada website (www.statcan.ca/eng/census96/interm). As the relevant document is publicly available, the information is excluded pursuant to section 68(a) of the Act." The URL given is for the Report of the Environics Research Survey results, and does not include the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census, which was my primary concern. After a game of telephone tag I finally made contact with the Industry Canada ATIP person whom I was advised to contact if I had questions and advised her that in my opinion my request had not been fulfilled in that the Report of the Expert Panel was not yet publicly available. I was advised that she would check things out further and get back to me. On Friday last I received a telephone call from her advising me that she was unable to fulfil my request as it was basically out of her jurisdiction and that my check would be returned. She indicated that I would have to submit a new ATI request directly to Statistics Canada. While she was very friendly and apologetic she said there was nothing further that she could do. While according to the Access to Information Act I feel my original request could have been re-directed to Statistics Canada, thus avoiding further unnecessary delay, there was little to gain by arguing the point with her. On Friday afternoon, therefore, I mailed another ATIP Request, complete with check, to Statistics Canada. I even paid the exorbitant extra postage to ensure the request was delivered within two working days. At the same time I sent an email to Mary Ledoux, ATIP coordinator for Statistics Canada, advising her that the ATI request was on the way. Much to my surprize, within an hour or so I received a return email from her stating "I will deal with your request when I receive it, as quickly as I can, so that you will have a formal response." I had not expected a response until after the weekend. I might say here that in my dealings with Statistics Canada I have an excellent rapport with both Mary Ledoux and Pamela White. In my many requests of them I have normally received prompt and courteous responses and at this time our communications are normally on a first name basis. While the answers given are not always the ones I seek, I always receive an answer. Because I have requested the Report of the Expert Panel under ATI does not necessarily mean that I will receive it. Under the Access to Information Act they may refuse to disclose any record requested if it is expected to be published within 90 days after the request is made. I would hope that my request would not be refused on this basis, unless the report is to be immediately posted to the Statistics Canada website, however it is a possibility that must be considered. The main purpose of my request has been, however, to hasten the release of this report to the Public. If that happens then my purpose has been satisfied. In my opinion, immediate release of this Report is imperative. I say this because of recent media reports that there may be an imminent Cabinet shuffle, and John Manley is mentioned as one who may be moved to a different portfolio. The possibility of a looming Federal election also makes the release of this Report imperative. I have hopes that we will see some action (legislative or otherwise) taking place prior to the next election. Happy Hunting Gordon

Many thanks, Garth!!! I had written to Dr. Jim Pankiw several times -- with no response. This letter will get rid of the BLUE ??? and Gordon Watts will assign him another symbol. I am pleased he will be supporting Jason Kenney's Motion M-160. I do not know Jason, but my husband and his brother worked for his grandfather, Mart Kenney in Woodbridge, Ontario. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ====================================== Garth Ulrich wrote: > Hi Muriel, > I am forwading a response that I received from my MP. > > Regards, > Garth Ulrich > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: 1901 Census > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:20:28 -0400 > From: "Pankiw, Jim - M.P." <Pankiw.J@parl.gc.ca> > To: "'Ulrich'" <gulrich@sk.sympatico.ca> > > Thank you for your email regarding census records. This issue is of > interest to many people and I am happy to answer your concern. > > The Minister responsible for Statistics Canada, the Honourable John Manley, > has asked Statistics Canada to develop options for changing the current > legislation to allow access to census records. As it stands, there are two > possibilities; the first option contemplates amending the Statistics Act to > allow records, starting with the 2001 Census and carrying on from there, to > be transferred to the National Archives of Canada to be subsequently made > available to the public; the second option is to retroactively change the > confidentiality provisions of the Statistics Act to allow the 1911 and all > censuses taken thereafter to be eventually placed in the public domain. > > On November 12, 1999, the Minister announced the creation of an Expert Panel > on Access to Historical Census Records. The panel has been studying the > possibilities mentioned above and will make their recommendation to the > Minister in the near future. > > When the Minister introduces legislation in the House of Commons I will take > a close look at the Bill to determine if there is a balance between the need > to protect personal privacy and the demands of genealogists and historians > for access to census records. > > At this time there is no legislation before Parliament to vote on with > respect to this issue. Both Murray Calder's Bill C-484 and Lorna Milne's > S-15 DIED on the order paper when the Liberals prorogued Parliament last > summer. Neither Bill was resubmitted to Parliament in the fall session. > There is, however, a Private Members Motion which has been put forward by a > Canadian Alliance MP, Jason Kenney. M-160 urges the Government to do > everything possible to ensure that the post 1901 Census records are released > some time after 2003, and I expect to be voting in favour of this Motion if, > or when, it comes to a final vote. > > Although, I will be voting for M-160, I feel that it is important to point > out that a Private Member's Motion should not be confused with a piece of > legislation, or a Government Bill, because a motion does not automatically > produce a law when passed. However, the fact is, tabling a Motion in the > House is the only means by which the Official Opposition can encourage the > Government to take action on a specific issue. For all practical purposes > though, passage of M-160 is unlikely to have any effect whatsoever on the > Government and I suspect that Minister Manley will simply continue to defer > making any decision regarding census records until after the next election. > > Again, thank you for writing and sharing your views on this important issue. > > Yours sincerely, > > Dr. Jim Pankiw, M.P. > Saskatoon-Humboldt ========================== There is one error being passed along in the above copy, and very possibly Gordon Watts will have the correct wording from Hansard. This involves Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-15 -- it is alive -- at present, but under the name of another senator. Muriel M. Davidson

Greetings All. FYI Gordon ====================== From: Gordon A. WATTS To: Jim PANKIW - MP ; gulrich@sk.sympatico.ca Sent: Friday, 15 September, 2000 11:14 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census Dr. Jim Pankiw - MP Dear Sir: I am writing in response to an email dated 14 September 2000 which you directed to Garth Ulrich. In this email you stated: "At this time there is no legislation before Parliament to vote on with respect to this issue. Both Murray Calder's Bill C-484 and Lorna Milne's S-15 DIED on the order paper when the Liberals prorogued Parliament last summer. Neither Bill was resubmitted to Parliament in the fall session." I wish to advise you that this statement is incorrect in all respects. To begin with, neither Bill S-15 nor C-484 could possibly have DIED when Parliament was prorogued for the summer of 1999. Neither Bill had been presented at that time. Senator Lorna Milne's Bill S-15 was presented to the Senate on 16 December 1999 and has been debated in second reading several times since then. Bill S-15 currently remains in second reading and was last adjourned in the name of Senator Mabel DeWare. It is expected she will continue debate in second reading when Parliament resumes next week and that the S-15 will soon go into committee. Murray Calder presented his Bill C-484 to the House of Commons 2 June 2000 when it received first reading and printing. It is expected that C-484 will continue in the normal order of precedence when the House resumes. May I respectfully suggest that you take steps to make certain that your information is correct before responding in a similar manner to others who seek your position regarding allowing access to Historic Census as currently allowed by Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Please take steps to correct your source of information. I am happy to see that it is your intention to vote in favour of Jason Kenney's Motion M-160. M-160 is currently scheduled for final hour of debate and voting at 6:30 EST Wednesday 20 September 2000. On the basis of your stated intention re: M-160 I have taken steps to change your non-response status on our MP Scoreboard to a gold tick of support. The files reflecting the change will be loaded early next week. The Scoreboard can be viewed at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census The Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census has been on the desk of Industry Minister John Manley since 30 June 2000. Despite many requests to do so, he has yet to release that report to the Public. I would respectfully request that you and your colleagues urge Mr. Manley to immediately release that Report to the Public. Sincerely. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Canada Census Committee 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 Tel (604) 942-6889 Fax (604) 942-6843 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

To all:- As the Fall Session of the House of Commons start on Monday, Sept. 18, there will be two (2) new Members of Parliament introduced Sept. 19. They are replacing two GOLD "Yes" Members on the Scoreboard: Jim Hart in British Columbia and Scott Brison in Nova Scotia. All attempts to obtain an answer from Stockwell Day re his views on the release of Post-1901 census records has failed -- only e-mails have been sent to date -- we did not have a mailing address until now. Many of his caucus are in favor of census release -- will he be? [Stockwell Day <day@canadianalliance.ca>] <http://www.canadianalliance.ca/index_e.cfm> WHO will obtain the first answer from this new Member of Parliament? < http://fanshawefedpc.tripod.com/joeclark.htm> The above URL takes one to a site with much information about Joe Clark, PC -- e-mail address unknown -- also his viewpoint re census. Their address, after Monday, will be the regular one for Members of Parliament. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee

Mr Manley I hope that you will vote yes on the release of the 1901 Canadian Census and future census at the appropriate time of release. Without these tools to trace our families, we would only have half a family. We all are entitled to know our ancestors [good and bad ones alike] to learn who we were and who we have become. To know our future is to know our past. We family searchers here in the United States find we have many family backgrounds of Canada and British Home Children. How can we find our families, if we are forbidden to trace backward to find our Home Children families. Are they condemned to remail UNKNOWNS and unclaimed for eternity? I truly hope that you and your colleagues will vote YES on this very vital question. Again, Please, Please vote YES on the release of the 1901 and future Canadian Censuses. Sincerely, Patricia Corney Quakertown, PA USA Granddaughter of Elsie Eliza A. BERRY, BHC IOWFHS #1334 bluroc@worldnet.att.net

To all:- Let us all welcome back OUR Member of Parliament as he/she begins fall sessions of the House of Commons. In a "Welcome Back" Letter, we could include a few pointed details we want them to remember:- Jason Kenney's Motion M-160, third hour of debate and vote, Sept. 20 on CPAC about 6:30 EST -- Tune in and see how YOUR Member votes! [Many of us will have pen and paper handy for YEA/NAY votes] The Member of Parliament Scoreboard still shows four colours, not two! <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> We had hoped for only GOLD and RED. The Report of the Expert Panel has not been released as yet -- after Sept. 18th, there should be no further excuse. Dr. Pamela White has finished her work -- any reminders should go to Hon. John Manley, Minister of Industry, House of Commons, Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 FREE postage if mailed in Canada. <Manley.J@parl.gc.ca> Keep checking the "Other Sites" and possibly more changes at <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census> Gordon Watts has been working LOOONG hours on our behalf. PETITIONS are needed for both Senate and House of Commons <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm> Try and send an e-mail to your member of Parliament as a Welcome Back gesture, I know it will be appreciated. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

Don't hold your breath waiting for the grant! Has to be some really flaky, off-the-wall project.. wait a minute! What about the digitalization of the 1901 census?<BG> Tom Lynch (one who has been in the racket for 20+ years) ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Griston <r_griston@dccnet.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: September 14, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: RE: [CCC-L] I am an Author (?) > congratulations gordon..yes, by self publishing the cerlox bound > book..you became an author..have you considered now going for canada > arts council grants? > roz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon A. WATTS [SMTP:gordon_watts@telus.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:48 PM > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CCC-L] I am an Author (?) > > Greetings All. > > In my research for my submission to the Expert Panel, "The Myths of > Census", I spent a great deal of time, and received a great deal of > assistance from the librarians at Vancouver Public Library. When my > submission was completed I dropped off a copy of it (cirlux bound > soft cover) for the librarians, so that they could see the results > of their assistance. > > On a recent visit to VPL I was searching the online catalogue for > something else and, on a whim, did a search for my own name under > "Authors". Lo and behold, there I was. Checking the shelves I > found that my submission had been hard cover bound and placed there > for all to see. It is in the Genealogy section of the sixth floor > and is marked "For Reference Only". I invite anyone interested to > view the complete submission, including the appendices that are not > currently online. The CD-ROM which contains a great deal of my > support information, not published in the submission, is in a pocket > inside the cover. > > Happy Hunting. > > Gordon > > ______________________________

To all:- I have an old-fashioned theory the politicians are elected by US, to serve US, work for US -- and we should be able to contact them. Check <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm> Look down the list of many politicians -- some of them prefer NOT to be contacted by anyone. Should YOU, as a constituent, know your Member of Parliament's e-mail address is incorrect, please advise <gordon_watts@telus.net> One I just received back was a memo to Mr. Steve Mahoney, Ontario list -- there are several address combinations -- none are workable. <Mahoney.S@parl.gc.ca> <mahoney.mp@parl.gc.ca> There are others -- but this Member of Parliament is from Peel County, so guess that is why I am using him as an example. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm