To all:- We were all very saddened to learn of the death of one of our Canada Census Committee members, DON NISBET, an inspiration to all. His words of wisdom during the year I knew him (by e-mail and by phone) were great and he really kept things going....when going was rough! I know Senator Lorna Milne would consider it an honour to receive signed petitions in memory of Don Nisbet -- and will be starting back on census release work when the House re-convenes. Any that are sent to me in Memory of Don, just add a small note and I will keep these apart from the others. Gordon Watts has made it very easy for all -- just go to:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Scroll down to Petitions for the Senate of Canada [we cannot do anything re House of Commons at present -- but Senator Milne is appointed] Canadians:- You have a choice of either English or French language Non-Canadians:- Only in English May be downloaded in either Word or WordPerfect -- if other, Gordon Watts has left a place to contact him directly. Please use Print Preview before printing, as pages may have to be adjusted -- all printers are different. Let us all assist Senator Lorna Milne to keep Don's work alive! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [A nice photo of Lorna Milne at her site]

To all wanting the 1911 and later census records opened for all:- [This is not political -- Senator Lorna Milne is appointed] An early morning few minutes chat with Senator Lorna Milne, a dear friend, confirmed my worst fears:- Her Bill S-15, after having passed Second Reading and in Committee, was "stopped dead in its tracks" by the election call. (I am quoting Lorna re various phrases). As soon as the House re-convenes, Lorna plans "to really get going and finish the release of the census records this time". This statement means Senator Lorna Milne will have to "start from scratch" - with our help!! There have been petitions signed, and I have several beside me, but any previously recorded in Hansard will not count. Lorna loves surprises -- let's make the surprise a huge stack of signatures on petitions -- on WHITE paper, and if at Christmas, I will add ribbons!! Go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Locate Petitions for the Senate - both for Canadians and Non-Canadians, these will have my mailing address at the bottom. The first page will have the "prayer", where petitions are signed, who is collecting signatures, and my address. The second page has 25 spaces. Please adjust before you print by using Print Preview -- we want all petitions to be the same. My mail-box needs mail!!! I will be looking for many thick letters! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Member

Dear Gordon, Donald was one of the best minds in our group. His death is a real blow to our cause. I feel sure that he would want us all to carry on with renewed vigour, and to commit ourselves to never stop till we have all censuses back in the public domain, where they always should have been. Please convey the sympathies of our whole movement to his family. Bob

Hello, I just wanted to say how sad I am on hearing of Don's death. I had wondered why we had not heard from Don in so long, he was a wonderful person and always very helpful. To his family my deepest sympathy, but now at least Don will be able to track down all those missing ancestors. Rest now Don, Jacquie Nex Sooke, British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:29 PM Subject: [CCC] Donald Nisbet > Greetings All. > > It is with great regret that I announce the passing of one of our > Canada Census Committee members, Don Nisbet, of Surrey, British > Columbia. > > I have just received a telephone call from Don's sister advising me > that he had been found dead in his apartment. Official date of > death is given as 17 May 2000. Don's sister was unsure as to the > cause of death but felt it could have been due to complications > relating to arthritis. I do not know his age but having twice met > him my impression was that he was a relatively young man, certainly > younger than myself. > > Don was a frequent poster to the Canada Census Campaign mail list > and was an avid researcher. He had made contact with people in > Australia that were involved with the efforts there to stop the > destruction of their Census records. He had also made contacts in > the United States where he obtained information relating to their > Census issues. Aside from developing and presenting his own > submission to the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census Records, > he fed me several pieces of information that became an integral part > of my own submission to the Expert Panel. Don's submission is > accessible through a link on the Post 1901 Census Project website. > > My final contact with Don was an email dated 9 May 2000 in which he > provided a URL for a website containing the report of the Australian > Committee of their House of Representatives in which the retention > and eventual public access to their Census records was recommended. > Since 9 May 2000 I had tried to contact Don several times, by email, > snail mail, by telephone and even by visiting his apartment > building, all without success. > > Don was his family's keeper of genealogical records. He will be > missed by them, as he will be missed by those of us who read with > interest his many informative postings to the mail list. When we > are successful in our goal of obtaining public access to Historic > Census it will be due, at least in part, to the dedicated research > and participation in our campaign by Don. > > Rest in Peace, Don. We will remember you. > > Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net > Port Coquitlam, BC > > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html > Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from > http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm > >

Greetings All. It is with great regret that I announce the passing of one of our Canada Census Committee members, Don Nisbet, of Surrey, British Columbia. I have just received a telephone call from Don's sister advising me that he had been found dead in his apartment. Official date of death is given as 17 May 2000. Don's sister was unsure as to the cause of death but felt it could have been due to complications relating to arthritis. I do not know his age but having twice met him my impression was that he was a relatively young man, certainly younger than myself. Don was a frequent poster to the Canada Census Campaign mail list and was an avid researcher. He had made contact with people in Australia that were involved with the efforts there to stop the destruction of their Census records. He had also made contacts in the United States where he obtained information relating to their Census issues. Aside from developing and presenting his own submission to the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census Records, he fed me several pieces of information that became an integral part of my own submission to the Expert Panel. Don's submission is accessible through a link on the Post 1901 Census Project website. My final contact with Don was an email dated 9 May 2000 in which he provided a URL for a website containing the report of the Australian Committee of their House of Representatives in which the retention and eventual public access to their Census records was recommended. Since 9 May 2000 I had tried to contact Don several times, by email, snail mail, by telephone and even by visiting his apartment building, all without success. Don was his family's keeper of genealogical records. He will be missed by them, as he will be missed by those of us who read with interest his many informative postings to the mail list. When we are successful in our goal of obtaining public access to Historic Census it will be due, at least in part, to the dedicated research and participation in our campaign by Don. Rest in Peace, Don. We will remember you. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

Many thanks for this passenger list -- there are many children listed. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Marj Kohli wrote: > The NAC does not have this one as yet and it has been posted to TheShipsList > > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/HANOVERIAN_1885.html > > Regards.. > Marjorie Kohli <marj@ist.uwaterloo.ca> > Waterloo, ON Canada > > http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/ > > ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== > BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren > BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp

To all -- and I suggest many copy this address:- Many are searching for missing relatives -- not only Home Children, but other missing family members. By sending a Fax, your signature will be sent, and I do not know if there is a fee. There is no harm trying another avenue!! Mr. Paul Johnson Census Pension Searches Unit Census Operations Division Statistics Canada B 1 E - 34, Jean Talon Building Tunney's Pasture Ottawa, ON K1A 0T6 FAX:- (613) 951-5969 ----------------------------- The above address has been proven successful by a number of people, as the census records will be searched up to 1996. I would suggest using the FAX and one must be a close relative or the person making the request. Above all, give complete address with phone number, any known S.I.N. numbers or other identification, and importantly, locality. Wishing all luck, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census Canada Census Committee jacquelyn mccraney wrote: > Hello All, > > This is my second request for help. > > I am looking for information for my fiancee. His > fathers birth records cannot be found and this affects his citizenship > status. > The father born Gordon Frank Macknight to Edith Kerr Macknight and Frank > Macknight in Toronto Canada at 55 Wellsley in the year 1910 or 1911. Any > help would be greatly appreciated. > > > Yhank you, > Jacquelyn > Minnesota > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail > > ============================== > Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog ============================== Visit ROOTS-L, the Internet's oldest and largest genealogical mailing list: http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/

Hello list, I am currently collecting the names of Middlemore Home Children. I also try to enter in the file when they arrived and on what ship. I also would like to enter where they were sent to live upon arrival here in Canada. I have had a wonderful response from the NB mail list. I have now over 1800 names and growing. The purpose of this list is to assist families in their pursuit of information on these children. With some of the replies, I have found that several children came over with siblings. I may have one name in my list but families are helping to fill in others as well. Strangely enough, I have had contact with two separate families unknown to each other prior to their searching. Now they are corresponding with each other. This is what helps families learn more about their own ancestors. If you wish to have your ancestor added to this growing list please notify through my email <mcrawfd@nbnet.nb.ca> Thank you for taking time to read this Marion Crawford

To all:- Without contravening any election rules and regulations, we know Senator Lorna Milne is appointed, so will not be seeking office. My sincere hope is that, after Nov. 27, Senator Milne will be able to pick up where her Bill S-15 was left, following the Second Reading and in Committee. Not knowing what will happen about the state of Bill S-15, we do know one certain thing: Senator Lorna Milne will be back working as soon as possible for release of our Canadian census. My dream is that we receive the "prairie" 1906, the desired 1911, but also the 1921 and 1931 -- which would put Canada on the same level of census release as United States. There are some online records, but these are sporadic -- I have a list of any I find and will accept any suggestions. Let's plan to load Lorna's Christmas tree with PETITIONS!!! There are two kinds, Canadian and Non-Canadian -- both for the Senate. My home address will be found on both. We must have the page that has the "prayer", with the next page of 25 spaces with directions. Please do not mix Canadian and American addresses!!!! Go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Download, after adjusting margins, the one of your choice or country. If in doubt, please write PRIVATELY to myself or Gordon Watts. We will give you assistance -- even send attachments when necessary. This is one way of keeping busy -- but does not interfere with any party presently seeking election. Lorna has already issued a memo stating she will be back at work as soon as possible -- let's help her with her (and our) cause!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

Hi Bill:- You made a slight error -- it is the 1911 census we wish opened -- plus others, e.g. 1921, 1931 -- this would make us correspond with United States. The 1901 census is open -- I have used it -- the first one with complete dates of birth. We do, however, need the 1906 for prairie provinces -- this one would be the first Canadian census for Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan. I just checked and Mr. John O'Reilly has a glowing GOLD tick -- see http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Click on ONTARIO -- then on his name to read the message!!! We received an answer from him, Gordon Watts made the changes -- this politician is definitely NOT a fence-sitter!!!!! (I know I bugged him a bit -- but he answered!) Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> WILLIAM DAVIS wrote: > Hi.List; This E mail is directed at the people and the keeper of the > list in regards to the federal members of Parliament that will support > the opening of the 1911 census. Yesterday while our federal member was > mainstreeting in Haliburton Ontario I took him to task on his fence > sitting on this issue. He assured me yesterday that he will support the > release of the census for that period. Apparently he had just returned > from Ireland after a extensive search for his routes and apparently this > has got him off the fence. He is the member from Haliburton, Victoria, > Brock in Ontario and his name is John Oreilly. If Muriel could contact > his office he said for the matter of the record he would confirm > support. > cheers Bill > >

Many thanks, Carol! There are many searching -- I am not one of them, but have become very interested in the children, regardless of which organization brought them to Canada. One item I noticed, the surnames were often changed to that of the family who took the child or children. My answer to that one: Search the census (last one AT PRESENT is 1901), find the family grouping. Then check the church records to see which ones are "natural" children of that family -- the others, regardless of surname change, would be the child or children brought from England. Once we get this election over, Senator Lorna Milne is ready to get going and hopefully her Bill S-15 will be accepted as before, having had Second Reading. Until then, we hope!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Carol Russell wrote: > Hi I also have a section on my site devoted to Home Children Includes passenger lists to Marchmont House > Belleville as well as a few others. More coming soon. Carol > > "Muriel M. Davidson" wrote: > > > To all: > > Thanks to Barb Arthur -- this new site is very informative -- many thanks! > > > > One will find various ways of communication, links to other Home Children > > sites, much more!!! > > > > Even if one is not researching a Home Child, it is interesting to check the site. > > > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > > Canada Census Committee > > > > Barb Arthur wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Sid and Daisy Baker arrange and host these very informative events for Home > > > Children Canada Pacific. 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To all: Thanks to Barb Arthur -- this new site is very informative -- many thanks! One will find various ways of communication, links to other Home Children sites, much more!!! Even if one is not researching a Home Child, it is interesting to check the site. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Barb Arthur wrote: > Hi, > Sid and Daisy Baker arrange and host these very informative events for Home > Children Canada Pacific. Here is their website. > http://www3.telus.net/Home_Children_Canada/ > > Barb, in Kelowna, BC > dtr of BHC Edward Frank HAZLEWOOD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: B. Mauza <b.e._mauza@telus.net> > To: <BRITISHHOMECHILDREN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:31 PM > Subject: Fw: FamilyTree Maker version 8 > > > I'm not sure why my message of a month ago (originally sent Sept.27) > > got reposted to the list yesterday, looking like a completely new > > posting. Thanks to those who have commented. > > > > I caught part of a news item on BC television station of a Barnardo > > meeting held in Sydney, BC, I think over the weekend. Not sure if > > Perry's book had been mentioned earlier in the clip. Did anyone from > > the list attend this gathering? Was it part of a genealogy > > conference? > > > > Janet Mauza > > Abbotsford, BC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: B. Mauza <b.e._mauza@telus.net> > > To: BRITISHHOMECHILDREN-L@rootsweb.com > > <BRITISHHOMECHILDREN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:33 PM > > Subject: FamilyTree Maker version 8 > > > > > > >I have just installed this upgrade to my program. I think that they > > >have added a feature about finding British Home Children to > > FamilyTree > > >Maker. At least, I don't think it was there before. > > > > > >The last icon on the toolbar line is a lightbulb. When you are on a > > >familyview page with Canadian data and click on the light bulb, it > > >gives suggestions of searches including a mention of over 100,00 > > >children sent to Canada from Britain in 18-1900's and gives link to > > >Canadian Archives Database to click on. > > > > > >This is impressive!!!!! > > > > > >So far, I'm not impressed with the update or with Genealogy.com for > > >not mentioning in their advertisements, that shipping by UPS from US > > >to Canada will incur brokerage fees (total $37.00 including GST & > > PST) > > >when delivered to your door, over and above the cost+UPS shipping fee > > >converted to Canadian dollars!!! > > > > > >Just a warning for anyone ordering. If you have ordered, and not > > >received yet, you can refuse delivery, ask for UPS phone #. > > > > > >I will be sending a note to Genealogy.com about my dissatisfaction > > >with this delivery method. > > > > > > > > > ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== > > BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren > > BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== > BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren > BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Hi Jacqueline:- I assist in any way I can -- but I do not check records in Ottawa -- these must be done by the person(s) concerned. I have several wonderful addresses given by politicians, with which very late census records will be checked. -- fee? I do not know. I also subscribed to the <BRISISHHOMECHILDREN-L@rootsweb.com> list -- the ones on the list assist each other, there have been many lists made available. David Lorente, a resident of Ontario, has his own web site, you may find it by going to <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ Check the Nova Scotia links -- I believe Bryan Keddy put it there. Another one is Perry Snow, author of "Neither Waif Nor Stray" -- the first 25 pages make me want to purchase the book <psnow@cadvision.com> <http://www.upublish.com/books/snow.htm> I am truly sorry -- I have become very interested -- as are several of the politicians, but please keep in touch -- who knows when I may see something of interest and connection. Above all, please keep remembering you are not alone -- which is why I suggest the BRITISH HOMECHILDREN list - even passenger lists are now becoming available -- so please keep hoping. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Amoreeena wrote: > Hello Patricia, > > I am writing to you in hopes that you might be able to help me, or advise me > re. BHC records in Ottawa. > > I read the recent posting to the BHC list by Patricia Corney so I emailed > her. She described how you checked records which are held in Ottawa for all > BHC.....I am not certain what records she refers to, however she suggested I > write to you in hopes you might find the name of the organization which sent > my grandfather to Quebec arriving 02 May 1903. > > The Canadian archives site lists his name on the passenger list for the > Bavarian, however none of the children I have found on that crossing show a > "sending organization" name. My grandfather's info shows only "Ottawa" as > his destination. I have sent many, many emails and letters to every possible > "care" facility and home I have learned about in England....6 have replied > so far, and none has any record of my grandfather. > > Here is what I know about him: > > He was John Frederick Sawyer, b. 08 Sept 1896 in Hoxton New Town, Middlesex, > London. > His parents were Alice Amelia Cook & John (probably Frederick) Sawyer. > I have copies of the birth cert for Grandfather, and the marriage cert for > his parents. > > His mother placed him in care at some time, though she always knew where he > was and was in touch with him, he said. She emigrated to Canada abt 1905 > according to her death cert. She and Grandfather were reunited sometime abt > 1908-1913. Alice Cook remarried abt. 1908 and lived until 1918 in Regina, > Saskatchewan. > Grandfather ran away from her home when her new husband beat him. > > The next record I have found of him is in Boise, Idaho when he registered > for the WW I draft. His name had been changed to Jack Gerald Clark....this > is the name his family in the U.S. knew him by. > I don't know when or why his name was changed. > > His mother, Alice Amelia Cook, had a brother, George Frederick Cook living > in Almonte, Ont. at the time Grandfather was sent to Ottawa in 1903....I > think it possible he was sent to his uncle, as he spoke of him later in his > adult life, and I have pictures of his uncle and aunt in Almonte. So far, I > have not found any descendents of his aunt & uncle in Canada. > > I am so very anxious to learn the name of the organization in England which > sent John Frederick Sawyer to Canada.....I cannot discover what happened to > him until I know what home sent him. > > I am also in hopes of locating the history of his father, John > Sawyer....family history says he either ran off and left Alice Cook, or was > imprisoned....perhaps a workhouse ? > > Can you tell me if there are records in Ottawa that would help me find out > more about my grandfather's life in England before he was sent to Canada ? > How would I be able to search those records ? > > Most sincere thanks for your time and efforts....it was so heartening to > hear Patricia's wonderful success in finding her family, thanks to your kind > efforts ! > > Jacqueline Hamilton Allen > Salem, Oregon USA

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FADEE024A425D02060105DAC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------FADEE024A425D02060105DAC Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <jan.rogers@sympatico.ca> Received: from h13.mail.home.com ([24.0.95.47]) by mail.rdc4.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP id <20001028141545.BKZK22454.mail.rdc4.on.home.com@h13.mail.home.com> for <davidson3542@mail.hnsn1.on.wave.home.com>; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:15:45 -0700 Received: from mx8-w.mail.home.com (mx8-w.mail.home.com [24.0.95.73]) by h13.mail.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA24004 for <davidson3542@home.com>; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by mx8-w.mail.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07851 for <davidson3542@home.com>; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sympatico.ca ([206.172.235.45]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001028141543.UCEN625.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:15:43 -0400 Message-ID: <39FADF1E.E852A650@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:13:50 -0400 From: Jan Rogers <jan.rogers@sympatico.ca> Reply-To: jan.rogers@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD472 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> Subject: Access to information Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Dear Muriel, I feel like I know you, I read all your Census messages, I had previously sent you information telling you that I had requested my information from Jane Stewart's famous data base and all they sent me was tax information, which of course was ludicrous, I pursued this because I thought they were hiding information & as we have since heard, the people doing the checking are having big time problems trying to get the information for us. I have since received a call plus a letter advising me that I am entitled to see what information they have on me under the privacy act and a Privacy Officer is now handling it. What I get and when, will me anyone's guess but I am not going away ! Also, I went to Jim Jones's nomination meeting for the Alliance Party for Markham and spoke to him about the release of the Census, he had remembered me from before, hounding him when he was a PC sitting member, he certainly will be supporting this bill if he is elected. I was impressed, he even remembered who tabled the bill, as he said "Oh Yes, that is Jason's bill ?"

To all:- Just getting my usual finger exercises done as we have have not had too much work to do lately -- the Oct. 7/2000 figures seemed carved in stone. Letters are still coming in, the occasional petition -- all memos are forwarded directly to Gordon Watts for exact time and date. My one and only Aunt Iva asked my brother recently if the census had been released as yet? He had to tell her there was an election stopping any action at present -- her comment "they just had one!". Aunt Iva's reason for the 1911 census? My mother and all sisters were born in Bucksport, Maine, my grandfather in Dedham, Maine - son of Julius Adams and Emily Davis. The family came to Liverpool, Nova Scotia in 1909 -- the 1911 would be my aunt's FIRST Canadian census. Many others must feel the same way -- but my aunt is now 98 yrs., 6 mos. ------ It will be difficult to contact Members of Parliament for a period of time, unless electioneering in the area. Prime Minister Jean Chretien "just happened" to be in the area where my stepson and stepdaughter live, Main St., Dartmouth, NS. He said he "had heard about the campaign!" Both of the above are family researchers, have promised to keep asking every candidate they meet. ------ As you know, Nova Scotia also will be having municipal elections, with a number of candidates "people of colour" -- usual for Liverpool area. One brother lives there, was missed on enumeration so had to register. During a Happy Birthday phone call, he asked me how far back I had been able to go on census and other means in all family connections. As he works outdoors as a woodsman, his skin is quite dark -- and yes, he is the one who will only wear Mi'kmaq-made mocassins!!!! He was asked ethnic origin, religion and other unnecessary questions -- also asked IF HE HAD NEGRO HERITAGE!!! When he asked "Why?", he was told if so, he would be able to vote for the coloured candidates. My brother has taken my advice, has been in contact with his friend, Gerald Keddy, MP, also the new mayor of Liverpool, John Leefe, former MLA. The editor of the newspaper has also been contacted. I am still looking for that link to my past, I have many friends but not relations!! -- hope above does not happen to others. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

To all:- The following letter does not say YES or No -- or otherwise. Many thanks to send a note from the office of David Collenette. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee ========================== CREST House of Commons Ottawa, Canada K1A 0A6 October 24, 2000 Ms. Muriel M. Davidson Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Dear Ms. Davidson: On behalf of the Honourable David M. Collenette, who is presently in his constituence for the election campaign, I am writing to acknowledge receipt and thank you for your electronic correspondence of September 4, 2000. The Minister appreciates having the benefit of your views with respect to access to census records. Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to the Minister. Yours sincerely, Tania Lambert Special Assistant Hon. David M. Collenette, P.C., M.P. Don Valley East ======== We hope to have a personal positive note from Mr. Collenette later. Muriel

To all: The following has been taken from the BRITISHHOMECHILDREN list, there are many who may have the needed information. If anyone is able to assist, please contact directly to:- Ellen Gunn <egunn@telus.net> Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ----------------------- Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone would have the following information. I would like to contact the Newcastle Chronicle, in Newcastle, England. I wish to have their address so I may "snail mail" them. My search for my fathers family is extremely slow and drawn out with no surprise. Some one from The University of Liverpool suggested writing to the newspaper for information on the family as apparently there are many people still in the area with the last surname of CARR, but to contact them is impossible. Still waiting to hear from Barnardo After Care with regards to my Dad. Thanks in advance, Ellen Gunn <egunn@telus.net> ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== BHC Resource Book: http://www.cadvision.com/psnow/waifnorstray.htm Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

The following was posted in answer to a request for words of ODE TO NEWFOUNDLAND -- it is beautiful, stately, gracious, a statement about one's love of the province. I have never been to Newfoundland -- but love this!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ------------------------- WHAT? A Newfie descendant who doesn't know the Ode to Newfoundland? God guard thee!! http://www.nfld.com/nfld/other/music/ode.html The last verse probably shows a history of genealogist! Raelene (Earle) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Judyb3753@aol.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NFLD-LAB] ode to NFLD Hi all, I put the "Ode to NFLD" on my main genealogy page and it give me chills. Anyone know where I can get the words?? Judy in Florida http://members.aol.com/judyb3753/index.html

Hi Patricia:- I am so very happy for you -- and I do belong to the BHC list -- my interest became too great!! It is great being able to help others -- so, in the old tradition, pass it on! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Patricia Corney wrote: > Dear Listers > Thanks to Muriel Davidson who check at the Ottawa records regarding my > grandmother, a link was made to Fulham Union in England. Went to a great > list, UK-WORKHOUSE-HOSP List [rootsweb] and asked questions. Mary Hallett > of this list, provided information on where the records were held. I paid > Mary US$35.00 to go to the Metropolitan Archives and search. > Yesterday, Tuesday, she replied that the documents she researched were all > original documents [not microfiled copies]so was not able to photocopy them. > At Fulham Union she found that Elsie BERRY's information was given by GRO, > she believes it meant General Receiving Officer. > Under Register of Children Emigrated 1899-1928: FGB117 > Date of Emigration: 3 Jun 1909 > Surname: BERRY > Christian Name: Elsie > Birth: 13 Dec 1894 > Age at date of Emigration: 14 > Instution: Home of Industry, 29 Bethnal Green Road > [Annie MacPherson Agency] > 6 addresses where she was placed in Canada > 7 Government reports > 5 Association reports, last one 4.18.12 to new home at Aylmer, Ont. > > Date of Emigration: 23 July 1908 > Surname: BERRY > Christian Name: Rose L > Birth: 3 July 1893 > Age at date of emigration: 14 > Instution: Miss MacPherson Agency, 29 Bethnal Green Road > Country: Canada > names of 3 employers > 1 Government Report > 7 Association Reports > > This was a well spent US$35. as it found my great aunt Rose who we supposed > was a BHC, but she is not in the ArchiviaNet and the only mention of Rose > Berry was 1911 St. Catharines Street Directory and 1913 Marriage License > [many thanks to Gail Collins who is so generous with her expert advice on > where to look, but also a new friend] and so was at a loss of how she > arrived in Canada. > > This is so exciting for me to find her. > > Without Perry, Gail C and all of you generous listers who provided pieces of > the puzzle and Muriel Davidson [ who does not belong to BHC list] would not > have known about Fulham Union or gone on the UK Workhouse list. So many nice > people on the UK Workhouse List. Hope this information will give all of you > some other places to search for your BHC's, > > Bless you all and best wishes and good searching. > > Patricia Corney > Quakertown, PA USA > Granddaughter of Elsie Eliza A. BERRY, BHC > Great Niece of Rose Lucy E. BERRY, BHC > IOWFHS #1334 > > bluroc@worldnet.att.net > > ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== > BHC Resource Book: http://www.cadvision.com/psnow/waifnorstray.htm > Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren > BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/search > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

For what it's worth, here is a copy of the the Canadian Conference of the Art's election strategy for getting their message on the political agenda. There may be information here that we can use to advance the census campaign. Regards, Leland Harvie Halifax NS NOVA SCOTIA CULTURAL NETWORK CyberBulletin - 25 October 2000 CCA ANNOUNCES ELECTION STRATEGY When the federal election was announced, the Canadian Conference of the Arts (CCA) had its election strategy all ready to go. Detailed material can be found on the CCA website at http://www.culturenet.ca/cca The material provides information for communicating with the candidates, questions to ask, how to get your message out, cultural statistics, links to political parties and other useful web sites, and "Arts for Life" (brief stories on the arts integrated into our daily lives). Please make use of these materials in contacting the candidates in the run up to election day. You can make links to your own web site, copy material for your members, and generally help to get the word out! Cultural issues usually receive short shrift during election campaigns. However, the CCA has assembled a "bank" of knowledgeable and articulate artists and cultural workers able to respond to particular questions should the need arise. In addition, the CCA would like to hear about any town hall meetings, special cultural issues-related meetings, other arts-centric election events, etc., that you might be organizing. Please relay this information to the CCA in good time (at least a couple of days' notice) so that they can pass it to national reporters for cultural media stories. The CCA will reproduce details of the individual parties' cultural platforms when they become available, together with any other promises and background information which they believe to be of interest to the sector. These will appear on the CCA website. Here are some basic questions you can ask your candidates: · Do you support federal funding for the arts in Canada? · If elected, will you vote to increase funding for the culture sector? · What will your government do to ensure a strong cultural presence for Canadians, both domestically and internationally? Here are some other critical issues identified by the CCA: · Cultural sovereignty - Don't assume the MAI is dead; it has simply been subsumed under the GATS. · New technologies - How to ensure Canadian content over the brave new airwaves? · National cultural institutions - Is the promise of stable, multi-year funding enough now that budgets have been cut to the bone? · Sponsorships and donations - There is only so much private sector money to go around. · Taxation of artists - How can self-employed, poorly recompensed artists achieve parity? For more information about the CCA's election strategy, please contact: Megan Williams, CCA National Director P: (613) 238 3561 F: (613) 238 4849 E: cca@mail.culturenet.ca For more information about the NS Cultural Network, please contact: Andrew David Terris Executive Director P: (902) 423-4456 F: (902) 423-4248 E: network@culture.ns.ca W: www.culture.ns.ca