Hi Carol:- I am one of those also interested in the Home Children project and have learned with interest when family members, dead or alive, have been located. I am also one who lost your home page URL. After the Nov. 27th election, with work presently falling into place, we look forward to having a census release bill presented -- new petitions have been "designed" and now all we wait for is the list of who was elected in the many various ridings. The 1911 census will be of great assistance -- but do not disregard the online census records in various provinces. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Carol Russell wrote: > <snip>appologized about using this list as she wasn't a home > child,<snip> > > Folks I am not a descendant of a Home Child nor was I adopted I do care > about these lost children and their families .Since learning of > Marchmont house and doing research about these children I have tried to > do all I can to help connect these families.That is the main reason I > set up the page for HC on my web site with links to help in their > search.I was very fortunate to come from a very close and loving family > so I know what these "waifs & strays" have lost .We may have been poor > in regards to money but millionaires when it came to family. Carol > > -- > Lost that elusive link? Can't find that url for > address' or phone # ? visit my > Homepage <http://www.tweetybirdgenealogy.com> > SEARCHING : > Hart, Haslip, Stevens, Little, Budge, > Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover > > ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== > BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren > BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren > >

To all:- This site should be bookmarked -- it covers the various laws for all the provinces, from Nova Scotia to Nunavut!!! As for the Nova Scotia list -- I know of several old cemeteries where homes are now being built -- notification was made, but nothing done. http://www.savinggraves.com/canada/index.htm Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> [Cemeteries are a source of records -- like censuses]

To all:- The following is very interesting -- should be printed off and followed. http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/20ways.html I would add -- never throw away OLD things that seem useless -- one would have thought the old scribblers kept by my grandfather would be useless -- he included the information supplied on the 1911 census. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Greetings All With Canada's Federal election on 27 November 2000 a new Government comes into being. With the dissolution of the previous Government, all outstanding Bills and Motions in the House of Commons and the Senate, including those relating to Historic Census, ceased to exist. The same applies to petitions sent to the previous Government. Petitions from the Canada Census Committee containing signatures in excess of 6000 were presented to the House of Commons and something close to 3000 were sent to the Senate. These petitions, and those from other sources, served their purpose and helped us to reach the point where we were close to having a Government Bill brought down. Unfortunately, the election was called before this happened. Now, more than ever, your support in letters and petitions is required to inform the new Government that we are still here, and still seek public access to Historic Census records. We have a clean slate with the new Government. Those who signed petitions sent to the old Government are free once more to sign petitions to be sent to the new Government. Petitions downloadable from the Post 1901 Census Project website at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census have been upgraded to Adobe Acrobat PDF files. This should eliminate printing problems experienced with the Word and WordPerfect files previously located there. There are petitions to both the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada, in both French and English, for residents of Canada to sign. There is also a Non-Resident petition of support for those living outside of Canada, but having roots in Canada, to sign. The petition page has been totally revamped. I urge all to download and circulate both petitions, i.e. for the House of Commons and for the Senate. Even though they are worded similarly, because they are directed to different places, both petitions may be signed by the same people. If various Genealogical and Family History Societies prefer to use petitions of their own wording rather than use ours, I urge them to start circulating them now. There are no deadlines for petitions of the Canada Census Committee. They will be sent in periodically when sufficient signatures have been collected to make it worthwhile. Thank you all for your continuing interest and support. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm This message has been sent to the Alberta-L, Can-British-Columbia-L, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Roots-L, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. Permission to forward without notification is granted.

Many are searching British Home Children -- some have been successful -- the subject is very interesting!! Release of Canadian census records for 1911 would be great for many searchers! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ------------------- Geneas Database Tops Half-Million Mark! The inGeneas Database Now Has MORE THAN 500,000 RECORDS!!! We Just Added Almost 40,000 New Records Check the chart below for details! 1901 Manitoba Census - Brandon District 8,258 records 1901 Manitoba Census - Lisgar District     11,949 records (southern Manitoba) 1901 Ontario Census - Toronto City (partial)11,312 records 1901 Ontario Census - Kent County*          3,993 records 1901 Ontario Census - Dundas County     1,194 records 1831-1834 Seventeen new passenger manifests 2,596 records from Ireland to St. John, New Brunswick (Irish ports include: Londonderry; Ballyshannon; Sligo; Cork; Galway; and. Belfast) *Note: this is the southern portion of Kent County; the northern portion of Kent County was enumerated in the Bothwell Census District which is already included in the inGeneas Database. All these records can all be found in the inGeneas Database located at: http://www.ingeneas.com/ingeneas/index.html All new records are highlighted with "new" flags to the far right of every Search Results screen. All census records are extractions of those giving a place of birth outside of Canada (that is to say that no one born in Canada is included). I hope something in the chart above catches your eye! Warm regards as always, Lori Fox :~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ Lori Fox, President: inGeneas inc.             : Searchable Canadian Genealogy Database                     lfox@ingeneas.com: http://www.inGeneas.com                        

Hi Everyone, Something told me to check the Stats Can site to see if anything new had been added, and they have a new section called Report on Public Attitudes. Now when I click on it nothing comes up, but I assume within a day or two the Environics report should be there for us to see. So we are getting somewhere slowly but surely. Remeber that everyone, we are achieving things, even if they are only reports, they are taking notice, they are trying to do things to shut us up, but if we keep at it sooner or later we will get the census released. Take Care for now Jacquie Nex jacnex@home.com

To all:- Very often, in census memos, mention has been made of lunatic asylums, lack of names recorded and information. Thanks to Jason Kelly, this is a very comprehensive site with at least 20 fact and history filled pages. It has now been demolished, but during its time provided care for many suffering with mental illnesses. http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/~Heritage/LunaticAsylum/index.htm Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

http://www.islandregister.com/pegenweb.html The above is the Prince Edward Island GenWeb site -- it is fantastic -- complete with Islanders who have settled in many other parts of the country, member of Canada GenWeb. A click on "The 1911 Census of Canada may not be released" took me to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html This LCCCC site was born July 1, 1999, maintained by Bryan Keddy and he will quickly tell you who likes to boss the job!! Missing: The distinctive Barney Kaufman logo!!!!! -------------------------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmb/index.htm This URL will take one directly to the Manitoba GenWeb Site, set up by Holly Mckenzie -- a line "The Post 1901 Census Project" takes one directly to the pages set up by Global Genealogy -- member of Canada GenWeb -- missed the flag linking logo!! I wrote a query to one person about possibility of a Census Committee member -- no pay -- just a huge THANK YOU!!! ------------------------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~cannb/ The third site is maintained by the new New Brunswick GenWeb Host, Jason Kelly. I will be back to explore this site -- but it has various census records, links to other provincial GenWeb sites. Jason: We invite you to link with both the following, very simply -- YES!! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Bryan Keddy will contact you re our super logo link!! http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/ Gordon Watts is listowner of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list, and also looks after all the various bits and pieces at above site. Jason may be reached at <jason.kelly@waypoint.ca> While we are waiting for the Nov. 27th election, we have time to travel! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/pointe/1439/ The above URL is from Christine Joudrey -- fits in with our Genetically Inherited Diseases. There is a great deal of good information here, mainly for people from the Mediterrean area. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- Although we are waiting for the Nov. 27th election to be over, exciting things have been happening amidst the Canada Census Committee members. Gordon Watts has been filling in time designing new petitions in PDF format, which will eliminate the necessity of adjusting printers -- just click and print! Some of us will have these saved to disk, so attachments may be sent, if requested. Several new members, but familiar names, have been added to the Canada Census Committee, and we hope all are in agreement. I had hoped to find someone to be a contact for Manitoba and also for Prince Edward Island. These two positions are still open --- pay is a great big THANK YOU --- plus a sense of helping to have our Post-1901 Canadian census records released. New names to date:- Saskatchewan: GARTH ULRICH <gulrich@sk.sympatico.ca> Newfoundland: DON TATE <dtate03@cfl.rr.com> Quebec: JEAN LABROSSE <labray@rocler.qc.ca> We welcome each one!!! A brief chat with Senator Lorna Milne (I always call her when she is dashing out the door) thanks all in advance for gathering signatures -- Lorna will be getting back to work on our behalf as soon as the House re-convenes. Senator Milne also suggests, now that civic elections are over, we concentrate on OUR Federal Candidates and ask each one, regardless of political party, if he or she is elected, to please ask the following question: "Will you SUPPORT the release of Post-1901 Canada Census by voting YES on any Bill or Motion in the House of Commons" [You may let any of us know the answers, should the person become elected] Check: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm If YOUR candidate is listed here, make a point of having a bit of conversation! Gordon Watts stresses, although we do not know who might have a Census Bill in the House of Commons until we see who is elected, that he is accepting signatures for the House of Commons -- "Be Prepared" is his motto! Therefore, one person may sign two petitions, one for the Senate and one for the House of Commons.....no law against it. Also, re Senate petitions, here is an example:- Victor Luce in New Brunswick preferred to gather signatures for a Senator of that area -- this is fine -- many work with Senator Milne on this project. Looking forward to a STUFFED Mail-box at Christmas -- WHITE paper -- I will add any ribbons and ask Ross, Lorna's husband, to put our surprise package under her tree!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

From: Anne Parkes <anneparkes@home.com> The following is being posted with the hope that all who are searching might obtain needed information. National Registration was necessary -- beginning in 1940, one celebrated his/her 16th birthday by "getting registered". As World War II did not end until 1945, registration was carried over until 1946, I believe. One who had to register!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> -----Original Message----- If anyone has already obtained one of these files, can you tell us how detailed the information might be?? Hope the following helps. It was from a lister on another list from September 23. Here's what she had to say. "The Census Pensions Searches Unit of Statistics Canada holds a "National Registration file of 1940". This "file" was compiled between 1940 and 1946 to register all persons, male and female, 16 years of age and older in Canada. Where a person has been deceased for more than 20 years, the information is no longer considered to be personal and can be accessed by others. You need proof that the person has been deceased for 20 years (an obituary notice is acceptable), and you more or less need to know where they were living in Canada in the1940's but some of the information could be of benefit to genealogists by providing clues to immigration dates, date and place of birth, etc. " She states that it's a bit of a lottery as to how much new information you'll find but may be worth it to some. She was able to pinpoint when a grandfather immigrated to Canada and that he had served in the military, his unit and rank. She further suggested the following web sites for more detailed info: http://www.statcan.ca/english/IPS/Data/93C0006.htm http://www.tbaytel.net/bmartin/natreg.htm ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren ============================== The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp

To all:- With about two weeks to go before we mark federal election ballots, now is the time to see YOUR Member of Parliament's thoughts about Post-1901 Canadian census release. As you all know by now, the elections caused the demise of Bill S-15 and C-484, but, with out help, and with possibly new numbers, we will continue to gain access to our heritage -- the census records. Check: http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Gordon Watts forwarded the last bits of data and the scoreboard has been updated as of Oct. 23, 2000. The overall results at the time:- GOLD tick - YES = 109 RED X----------NO = 8 FENCERS---------- = 51 (included our Prime Minister) NO ANSWER ?? = 133 Total = 301 Leaders of the Canadian Alliance, Progressive-Conservative and NDP have sent memos of SUPPORT for census release. All candidates will be campaigning until Nov. 26 -- look over the scoreboard, and if YOUR MP is seeking re-election, plan to ask him/her about census support. Should you be carrying a petition for both House of Commons (Canadians only) or the Senate (both Canadian and Non-Canadian), do what I did -- I asked for his autograph!!! Otherwise, accept a verbal answer. Gordon Watts is making it easy for all of us to print the petitions -- no excuses! He accepts the House of Commons ones -- I take the Senate ones for Senator Lorna Milne. Tomorrow I hope to have a list of other Senators from across Canada -- people who work with Senator Milne -- all the same goal. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Brampton Centre riding!

Hello Betty, it is great to hear from you! Re Canadian census, and quoting Senator Lorna Milne, we go back to "square one" and "start all over again". The petitions previously presented and recorded in Hansard cannot be re-used, so now we must get signatures!!! Not all is lost -- the Members of Parliament know people wish the census to be released -- letters, motions by others, Senator Milne's Bill S-15 -- they would have to be deaf or uncaring not to realize that "We, the people" elected them to the House of Commons and this is our wish. Gordon Watts has been revising the petitions in PDF format, which will be a great help. We also have our web sites -- but we have to wait until after the election to see which names have to be changed. As for the 1911 census, I first knew about it when Allan Dunlop was the Associate Provincial Archivist at PANS -- way back in 1985. It was not until Lorna Milne asked me to get petitions going in March 1999 that many of us formed as a group -- the MPs know we exist!!! Senator Lorna Milne plans to get back to work immediately -- she may use the same wording, I do not know -- but she needs STACKS of signatures to prove there is desire and need of census release. Gordon has had the scoreboard updated with latest updates and my suggestion is: IF YOUR MP is seeking re-election, ask him/her point-blank if he/she will SUPPORT all census release motions and bills. As the reply may be VERBAL, instead of in letter form, send us the outline of the conversation -- Gordon will adapt it to the scoreboard if the person is re-elected. To date, Canadian Alliance, Progressive Conservative and NDP parties have sent memos to me that the parties will support census release. Nothing from other parties -- except my own MP, Sarkis Assadourian, who also has Senator Lorna Milne in the Brampton Centre riding. Hope I will be able to deliver petitions to Lorna Milne by the boxful, instead of a large envelope. Gordon Watts will be accepting House of Commons petitions -- I personally know there will be a Bill presented. Let us all help to assist ourselves in our genealogy research!! Many thanks for the Massachusetts item -- very interesting -- I will send it to Senator Milne. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> --------------- Betty Lumsden wrote: > Hello, Muriel... > Just wondering if you saw the email below ? I find it quite interesting > that MA releases censuses every 5 years ! > Does anyone know what's happening in Ottawa re releasing our censuses , now > that we're in the middle of an election? Does everything go back to square > one ?!!! > > Betty Lumsden > Pictou Co., NS > -----Original Message----- > From: H213162931@aol.com <H213162931@aol.com> > To: MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <MAMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:54 PM > Subject: Massachusetts Vitals > > Hello, > > Just in case somelse did not know this: > > The Massachusetts Archives will probably receive the 1906 - 1910 vitals > early in 2001. They usually get 5 year portions every 5 years. > > Barbara >

Statistics Statistique Canada Canada Ottawa, Canada KIA0T6 http://www.statcan.ca 25-B, R.H. Coats Building Tunney's Pasture November 3, 2000 Ms. Muriel M. Davidson Canada Census Committee Brampton Centre Riding 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, Ontario L6W 2R8 Dear Ms. Davidson: Further to my e-mail to you of October 4, 2000, this is to acknowledge that Statistics Canada has received from the office of the Honourable Elinor Caplan, a copy of your e-mail of September 4, 2000, to her on the subject of the release of the census records. Your comments on this matter are appreciated. Sincerely, Ms. Pamela White, Director Data Access and Control Services Division ============== To all:- I do not have a copy of the Caplan letter in front of me, but remember I was "put out" because it was signed by not one, but two assistants, and not by the Honourable Elinor Caplan at all. It was one of the OLD publicity letters provided for all MPs to send, very out-of-date. IF I sent a letter to Pamela White, which I do not remember, it was to ask her if the Report of the Expert Panel was private or could we learn what was in it. It seems it IS posted at the site given above -- but must be in invisible type -- we cannot locate it. Hopefully the Report will be found AFTER November 27, 2000. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member

To all listers:- Is there a resident of Prince Edward Island who would like to represent that province on the Canada Census Committee? Duties are not very strenuous -- but if MPs have to be contacted, we have found they respond better to one from their province. Periodically a memo may have to be sent -- but several of us do much of the work -- we take the time -- but willing to share. Due to an election slated for Nov. 27th, all previous work for release of the Canadian census records has to be started all over again. At present we can only collect signatures for the Senate, with Senator Lorna Milne ready to start again. When the election was called, her Bill, S-15 had finished Second Reading and in Committee. As it is not a government bill, it has to be presented again. Please let me know -- and should the applicant have a web site, we have suitable linkings. Looking forward to hearing from a resident of Prince Edward Island, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ [Note the flag logo -- one method of linking]

Dear Pat:- Yes, I am sorry to say all our work on the census issue went into File 13 or the equivalent when the election was called. I spoke to Senator Lorna Milne last evening about this as I wondered if anything could be salvaged -- Lorna had had Second Reading of her Bill S-15 and it was in Committee. Lorna explained it was a Private Member's Bill, not a Government Bill. [I also queried her about the EI Bill needed for seasonal workers]. Senator Milne and several other positive Senators will be working very hard to quickly bring a census release campaign bill to previous standing. I always mention Senator Milne as she lives a few blocks from me and has been a personal friend long before she became a Senator. The Canada Census Committee members have been busy -- we can only think "SENATE" at present -- until after the election. 1. Gordon Watts has put petitions in the ".pdf" format -- click and print, no more downloading - available shortly. 2. Committee members have been added for Saskatchewan and Newfoundland. [I am still hoping for a new member from Prince Edward Island and for Manitoba -- then we will announce all]. 3. Senator Lorna Milne would be thrilled if her Christmas tree was loaded with Petitions from both Canadians and Non-Canadians -- WHITE paper, I will add the ribbons and deliver them to Ross, her husband, as a surprise from all of us. Yes, we are all disappointed this had to happen -- so near and yet so far. I have recently received messages the Canadian Alliance, Progressive- Conservative and New Democratic Parties are supporting census release. Let us all think positively and get to work!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [Check for THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census >>>> All Sites http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm [Both Canadian and Non-Canadian petitions available] ----------------------- Pat Lawson wrote: > Hi Muriel, > > Would you please elaborate on your statement that petitions recorded > previously in Hansard do not count. Surely this doesn't mean that the > support provided prior to election call is all for naught. > > Thanks, > Pat Lawson <PandP@seanlawson.com> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:48 AM > Subject: [CCC] PETITIONS Wanted -- To Help Lorna Get Things Going Again! > > To all wanting the 1911 and later census records opened for all:- > > [This is not political -- Senator Lorna Milne is appointed] > > An early morning few minutes chat with Senator Lorna Milne, a dear > friend, confirmed my worst fears:- > > Her Bill S-15, after having passed Second Reading and in Committee, > was "stopped dead in its tracks" by the election call. (I am quoting > Lorna re various phrases). > > As soon as the House re-convenes, Lorna plans "to really get going and > finish the release of the census records this time". This statement means > Senator Lorna Milne will have to "start from scratch" - with our help!! > > There have been petitions signed, and I have several beside me, but any > previously recorded in Hansard will not count. > > Lorna loves surprises -- let's make the surprise a huge stack of signatures > on petitions -- on WHITE paper, and if at Christmas, I will add ribbons!! > > Go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm > Locate Petitions for the Senate - both for Canadians and Non-Canadians, > these will have my mailing address at the bottom. > My mail-box needs mail!!! I will be looking for many thick letters! > > Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> > Canada Census Committee Member

Hi Pat and All. I would like to modify slightly what Muriel has said and assure you that "all the support provided prior to the election call" has NOT been "all for naught". It is specifically because of all that support that we have managed to get as far as we have with our efforts to obtain public access to post-1901 Census records. It is because of all the letters written to MPs and the appropriate Government Ministers, and all the signatures on all the petitions, that the powers that be have begun to sit up and take notice of our concerns. It is because of all of those letters, email, and signatures that John Manley asked for possible solutions from Statistics Canada, and appointed the Expert Panel to make recommendations regarding access to Historic Census records. Because of this also, Senator Milne was able to work behind the scenes with Dr. Ivan Fellegi, head of Statistics Canada, then Privacy Commissioner Bruce Phillips, Industry Minister John Manley, and others to reach the "compromise" solution that Senator Milne referred to in her letter which was recently posted to the list. It is because of that support that this "compromise" solution was able to be placed before the Cabinet. It is unfortunate that the election call came when it did as without that I feel we would currently be studying a Bill brought down by the government. It is my personal opinion that had it not been for the pressure of Bruce Phillips and Dr. Fellegi, then Industry Minister John Manley would not have appointed the Expert Panel but would have brought down a government Bill allowing a retroactive amendment to allow public access to Census on the same basis that previous ones have been available, i.e. 92 years following collection. I feel the major reason for the Expert Panel being appointed was to show others that public access to Historic Census was supported. (CYA syndrome) Having assured you that our previous efforts have not been all for naught I must reaffirm that all outstanding Bills, for access to Census or other concerns have ceased to exist with the dissolution of the previous administration. It is my opinion that the same applies to those petitions that have been presented and recorded in Hansard as well. It does not mean that the petitions did not serve their purpose, because they did. What it does mean, however, is that with a new administration coming in (even if the Liberals are returned) we have a new ball game. It means that those having signed petitions presented to the previous administration are now free to sign new petitions to be presented to the next administration. This applies to petitions for BOTH the House of Commons and the Senate. In my next Global Gazette column, due out this weekend, I am calling for renewed signatures for BOTH petitions. The two petitions, although similarly worded, are being directed to different places. This means that the same people can sign BOTH petitions. As Muriel indicated I am putting the petitions into PDF format and they should be placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website shortly. The PDF format should eliminate the printing problems because of different printers using the Word and WordPerfect format petitions. While we have not yet seen visible results of our campaign in the form of a Government Bill, I feel certain that it will not take long after the new Government is formed before such a Bill is in evidence. It is my opinion that much of the behind the scenes work that took place over the summer period may likely be salvaged. To ensure this happens we must renew our efforts in signing petitions and contacting those seeking election or re-election. I thank you all for your past, and continuing support. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <davidson3542@home.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 08 November, 2000 8:44 PM Subject: [CCC] PETITIONS Wanted -- To Help Lorna Get Things Going Again! Dear Pat:- Yes, I am sorry to say all our work on the census issue went into File 13 or the equivalent when the election was called. I spoke to Senator Lorna Milne last evening about this as I wondered if anything could be salvaged -- Lorna had had Second Reading of her Bill S-15 and it was in Committee. Lorna explained it was a Private Member's Bill, not a Government Bill. [I also queried her about the EI Bill needed for seasonal workers]. Senator Milne and several other positive Senators will be working very hard to quickly bring a census release campaign bill to previous standing. I always mention Senator Milne as she lives a few blocks from me and has been a personal friend long before she became a Senator. The Canada Census Committee members have been busy -- we can only think "SENATE" at present -- until after the election. 1. Gordon Watts has put petitions in the ".pdf" format -- click and print, no more downloading - available shortly. 2. Committee members have been added for Saskatchewan and Newfoundland. [I am still hoping for a new member from Prince Edward Island and for Manitoba -- then we will announce all]. 3. Senator Lorna Milne would be thrilled if her Christmas tree was loaded with Petitions from both Canadians and Non-Canadians -- WHITE paper, I will add the ribbons and deliver them to Ross, her husband, as a surprise from all of us. Yes, we are all disappointed this had to happen -- so near and yet so far. I have recently received messages the Canadian Alliance, Progressive-Conservative and New Democratic Parties are supporting census release. Let us all think positively and get to work!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [Check for THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census >>>> All Sites http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm [Both Canadian and Non-Canadian petitions available] ----------------------- Pat Lawson wrote: Hi Muriel, Would you please elaborate on your statement that petitions recorded previously in Hansard do not count. Surely this doesn't mean that the support provided prior to election call is all for naught. Thanks, Pat Lawson <PandP@seanlawson.com> -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:48 AM Subject: [CCC] PETITIONS Wanted -- To Help Lorna Get Things Going Again! To all wanting the 1911 and later census records opened for all:- [This is not political -- Senator Lorna Milne is appointed] An early morning few minutes chat with Senator Lorna Milne, a dear friend, confirmed my worst fears:- Her Bill S-15, after having passed Second Reading and in Committee, was "stopped dead in its tracks" by the election call. (I am quoting Lorna re various phrases). As soon as the House re-convenes, Lorna plans "to really get going and finish the release of the census records this time". This statement means Senator Lorna Milne will have to "start from scratch" - with our help!! There have been petitions signed, and I have several beside me, but any previously recorded in Hansard will not count. Lorna loves surprises -- let's make the surprise a huge stack of signatures on petitions -- on WHITE paper, and if at Christmas, I will add ribbons!! Go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Locate Petitions for the Senate - both for Canadians and Non-Canadians, these will have my mailing address at the bottom. My mail-box needs mail!!! I will be looking for many thick letters! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee Member

To all:- The posting re TAPS was not the complete story, it seems. This morning I did a bit of research and hopefully this is now complete. It is very interesting, and includes a bit of yesterday's story. http://www.west-point.org/taps/Taps.html The words are beautiful -- and with Remembrance Day on Nov. 11, our thoughts turn to "things" like this -- also our Last Post. I will be attending a special service at the Canadian Korean War Memorial in a cemetery near me -- Nov. 11 at 10 A.M. to be attended by Ontario's Lieutenant-Governor Hilary Weston. My reasons are personal -- but one may search for the USS BENFOLD. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

Contributed by Diane Coose Littlefield <diancoos@mail.tds.net> THE HISTORY OF TAPS We have all heard the haunting melody of "TAPS". It is the song that gives us that lump in our throats and usually tears in our eyes. But, do you know the story behind the song? If not, I think you will be pleased to learn about its humble beginnings. Reportedly, it all began in 1812 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain Robert Ellcombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing Virginia. The Confederate army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land. During the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moans of a soldier who was severely wounded in the field. Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate soldier, the Captain decided to risk his life and bring the wounded man back for medical attention. Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the Captain reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward the encampment. When the Captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered that it was actually a Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead. The Captain lit a lantern and suddenly caught his breath and went numb with shock. In the dim light he saw the face of the soldier. IT WAS HIS OWN SON!!!! The boy had been studying music in the South when the war had broken out. Without telling his father, the boy had enlisted in the Confederate army. The following morning, heartbroken, the father asked permission to give his son a full military burial despite his enemy status. His request was only partially granted. The Captain had asked if he could have a group of army band members play a funeral dirge for his son at the funeral. The request was denied since the soldier was a Confederate. But, out of respect for the father, they did say they would give him one musician. The Captain chose a bugler to play a series of notes that he had found on a piece of paper in the dead youths uniform pocket. This wish was granted. The haunting melody we now know as TAPS, used at all military funerals was born. Day is Done Gone the Sun >From the Lakes >From the Hills >From the Sky All is Well Safely Rest God is Nigh. Fading Light Dims the Sight And a star Gems the Sky Gleaming bright from Afar Drawing Nigh Falls the Light. Thanks and Praise For our Days Neath the Sun Neath the Stars Neath the Sky As we Go This we Know God is Nigh. I, too, have felt the chills while listening to TAPS but I have never seen all the words to the song until now. I didn't even know there was more than one verse. I also never knew the story behind the song and I didn't know if you had either so I thought I'd pass this on. PATRICK D. EAGAN CHIEF, FIELD SECTION

To all:- I am very certain the passenger list of the SS SARDINIAN was posted not too long ago. There are many sites now for descendants wanting to learn of their ancestor Home Child(ren) and one should have the requested information. The plight of the Home Child is one very good reason WHY Canadian census records should be opened. Surnames were changed according to the surname of the "adoptive" family -- only by combining church and census records, is one able to learn which are the natural children. Katie, have you read Perry Snow's NEITHER WAIF NOR STRAY? Just search for the title -- easy to find. David Lorente's web site is listed among Nova Scotia Links at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ All the best, Katie -- let's get that school paper written!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Brampton, Ontario [905/451-3542] Hi Everyone, I've been on this list for about a month now...my GGGrandmother was a Barnardo child who came to Canada with here two sisters aboard the SS Sardinian in 1892. I have had difficulty tracing my GGGrandmother's sisters, as they moved to the United States in 1899 and Barnardo's won't supply any info on them because I am not their "next of kin." I do know however that no inquiry has been made at Barnardo's about either sister, which suggests that their descendants a) are not interested or b) do not know of this part of their past. Actually, the reason I'm writing is I just finished reading Margaret Humphrey's book Empty Cradles...Wow, completely opened my eyes. I was just wondering if there were any way of accessing copies of the documentaries mentioned in the book that were broadcast in Britain, or accessing copies of the newspaper articles written in Nottingham?? I live in Ontario, and there aren't any libraries nearby that would have copies of british newspapers. I was also wondering if anyone knew of a Canadian CBC special on British Home Children?? Someone mentioned to me that they had seen one, but did not remember when?? I am writing an essay for school comparing the different child migration schemes put into action by various British organizations and governments. I have also found quite a few incredibly helpful websites, however if anyone knows of any other sources or sites, I would be very appreciative. Thank you to everyone on this list, and good luck :) Sincerely, Katie Mountjoy Brampton, Ontario kmountjoy@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB