--====979404853==== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This e-mail has been sent to you by Muriel M. Davidson (davidson3542@home.c= om) from the globeandmail.com Web Centre. Message: To Brian Tobin: Please do not keep up the pretense=0D of census release -- 30=0D years of talking is more=0D than ENOUGH -- please =0D abide by the Report of =0D the Expert Panel -- that=0D is why it was appointed.=0D davidson3542@home.com The Globe and Mail, Thursday, January 11, 2001 Show us the data Historical census records are crucial to understanding ourselves as a peo= ple, says history professor BILL WAISER. Ottawa must make the material avai= lable By Bill Waiser Ninety-two years is long enough to wait. In the past weeks, editorial pages have speculated about a new challenge fo= r former Newfoundland premier Brian Tobin (aka Captain Canada) in his new r= ole as federal Minister of Industry. Let me offer a suggestion, Mr. Tobin: = Implement the recommendations of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical C= ensus Materials and show us the historical data about Canadians. Just over a year ago, former industry minister John Manley appointed an exp= ert panel to recommend how the impasse over access to post-1901 census data= could best be resolved. On the one hand, Statistics Canada and the Office = of the Privacy Commissioner maintained that census material had been collec= ted in the past under the promise of confidentiality. On the other, the Nat= ional Archives, in association with heritage and genealogical groups, argue= d that census records constitute a national historic treasure and should be= made available for public consultation, in accordance with the existing re= gulations in the Privacy Act, 92 years after the census was taken. The five-member panel, including a former Supreme Court judge and two unive= rsity presidents, held several meetings with interested groups and individu= als, read 2,500 pieces of correspondence, and considered public opinion res= earch commissioned by Statistics Canada. The panel's report was delivered t= o the former minister's office at the end of June, 2000. But it was kept fr= om the public for almost six months. And when it was finally released on Dec. 15, Mr. Tobin, the new minister, i= n the best Mackenzie King tradition, called for more study. Is this the sam= e man who, as minister of fisheries a few years ago, was prepared to take o= n the entire Spanish fleet over the lowly turbot? Mr. Tobin's handling of the expert panel's report is troubling for a number= of reasons. First, it is readily apparent that the Chr=E9tien government does not like = the solutions proposed by the panel -- no matter how reasonable and judicio= us they are. Mr. Tobin has indicated that further public consultation on th= e census issue will take place as part of a larger review of the Access to = Information and Privacy acts. This process could take years, especially sin= ce the review of privacy legislation has not yet been announced. More impor= tant

To Pamela White:- This letter is OLD copy, without the signature of The Hon. Brian Tobin, MP. Could we have revised and new letters for all to send -- just a change of pace!! Looking forward to the early release of 1906 and 1911 census records, as suggested by the Expert Panel. When you find my hard-copy letter, could I please receive one from Mr. Tobin? When I look at the Newfoundland Census Scoreboard, Mr. Tobin has a large BLUE ? -- meaning he has not answered re his feelings about census release. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member [Originally from Nova Scotia -- close to Newfoundland!] http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm [Click on Newfoundland] =========================================== pamela.white@statcan.ca wrote: > Your e-mail of December 18, 2000, to the Honourable Brian Tobin, Minister > Responsible for Statistics Canada, on the subject of the release of > post-1901 Canadian census records has been passed to Statistics Canada for > response. > > There has been considerable public debate and interest on the part of > genealogists, historians and archivists who had expected that the 1911 > census records would be publicly available in 2003, 92 years after the > taking of the census. Recognizing the importance of historical research > but also taking into account the privacy concerns of Canadians, an Expert > Panel on Access to Historical Census Records was created to provide > independent, expert advice on the legal, privacy and archival implications > of releasing historical census records. > > The report from the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records > was released on December 15th by Minister Tobin. In his announcement, the > Minister indicated that further broad based consultation with all > Canadians is needed in order to ensure that, if access to historical > census records is provided, it is done in a manner that respects the > government's deep commitment to privacy. This consultation will take > place as part of the already announced administrative and legislative > review of the Access to Information Act and Privacy Act. > > A copy of the news release announcing the Expert Panel's report follows. > > Pamela White > Director > Data Access and Control Services > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > December 15, 2000 > > > Minister Tobin Releases the Report from the Expert Panel > on Access to Historical Census Records > > Ottawa -- Brian Tobin, Minister of Industry and Minister Responsible for > Statistics Canada, today released the report from the Expert Panel on > Access to Historical Census Records. In releasing the report, Mr. Tobin > conveyed the government's appreciation to the members of the Expert Panel > for their work and for the time and effort they invested in this important > matter. > > The Minister indicated that the issues at stake are complex and far > reaching. The government is committed to protecting the privacy rights of > Canadians who were given an assurance of confidentiality at the time they > completed the 1911 Census while, at the same time, the government must > consider the legitimate needs of genealogists and others for access to > historical census records. > > In light of these concerns the Minister indicated that further broad based > consultation with all Canadians is needed. This consultation will take > place as part of the already announced administrative and legislative > review of the Access to Information and the Privacy Acts. > > The government's primary reason for undertaking additional consultation is > to ensure that, if access to historical census records is provided, this > is done in a manner that respects the government's deep commitment to > privacy. > > To find out more about the report from the Expert Panel on Access to > Historical Census Records, please visit the web site at www.statcan.ca. > > -30- > > For further information, please contact Heidi Bonnell, Press Secretary, > Office of the Minister of Industry at (613) 995-9001. > > Ce communiqué est aussi disponible en français.

To all:- After reading the various editorials and also receiving a "vintage 1999" reply re a letter I sent to The Hon. Brian Tobin -- I feel he needs a flood of mail -- hard-copy, e-mail, whatever!!! This new Minister of Industry, hardly "wet behind the ears" as a Member of Parliament and in charge of OUR Canadian Census Records, dares to suggest we add more "discussion" to the 20-30 years to date. Our taxpayers money was spent on the Report of the Expert Panel, and it looks great to see the report was released December 15 by Mr. Tobin. Honestly, I feel he had no choice -- Gordon Watts had submitted two (2) Access to Information requests -- the first one was not recognized!! The second one, with request to be filled in 90 days, was actually filled on the 89th day -- by Mr. Tobin!! You can see that Gordon Watts and I work at various "angles" of this game. For all interested in HOPEFULLY having the Expert Panel's suggestion followed: "immediate release of 1906 census records for three prairie provinces, and records up to 1918 - these include 1911 census records". [All are safely housed at National Archives -- but mere ordinary Canadians are not allowed to view these -- Senator Lorna Milne and Murray Calder, MP have to start the whole process of re-presenting the same-worded Private Member's Bills. So --- grab some scratch paper, jot down what you wish to say, be emphatic. If you have a story, please tell him -- he may listen!!! He might even learn the meaning of BHC (British Home Children) YOUR letter should be addressed to: The Hon. Brian Tobin, MP (Bonavista-Trinity-Conception) Minister of Industry House of Commons Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 POSTAGE IS FREE Go to: http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Find YOUR Member of Parliament -- e.g. Sarkis Assadourian, MP I would add: cc: Sarkis Assadourian, MP (Brampton Centre) YOUR full name, address must be put on the letter -- if you use an e-mail address, as well, that is how I received the old-fashioned reply today! Print your letter - one to Brian Tobin and one for your Member of Parliament. Mr. Tobin will actually receive TWO (2) letters from you, as your MP "will pass the buck" and forward the letter to Mr. Tobin {great black/white wallpaper} Please make certain YOUR envelope is large -- even coloured -- FREE postage. Left-over red and green Christmas envelopes should show up! E-Mails are counted as per subject matter -- so after you have your letter printed off, do a Copy and Paste to send as an e-mail to the following: The Hon. Brian Tobin <Brian.Tobin@ic.gc.ca> You will have sent two letters and one e-mail -- we will compare stale replies at a later date. Non-Canadians do not have a Member of Parliament, except for the areas he/she are researching for lost ancestors. I have received many letters by attachment, in WORD only, with .doc extension, complete with address, as I do not have the time to write back for the address. [Special service] NO -- I will not give you sample letters as each person feels differently. I would suggest you visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html a site shared by Bryan Keddy and myself -- read the editorials posted there, printed in major newspapers across Canada. From these, you will obtain some thoughts!!! When the answer comes in, please let us know -- I am posting the vintage 1999 one received today, complete with a bulletin he/she is asked to use. Let's see who gets an original one, not signed by a staff member, and with signature of the Member of Parliament and a red star re Mr. Tobin!!! By January 29th, 2001 when Parliament resumes, we should find the corridors clogged with our mail -- I hope!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

http://www.newspapersa-z.com/candnp.htm The above URL is a list of major newspapers from coast to coast in Canada, many of them changed daily, others are weekly. I do have many more newspaper listings, but these will get all interested. To date there have been great articles which have appeared in several major newspapers, and these are being posted for all to read. You will find them on the census pages: <http://globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [Bryan Keddy and I have one profession in common -- newspapers] The editorial article by Dave Obee will be translated into French by Jean-Guy Simard -- he is at liberty to translate all of them. Thus, we will have both English and French versions of the same article. Should any reader find an article, small or large, in any newspaper, please let me know as the online editions change daily. The Halifax Herald is one of those where readers can view back issues. We are mainly interested in anything in Editorial or Comment sections. Letters to the Editor? By all means -- but be certain you give full name and address, which may be withheld by request. We do have to get as much exposure as possible on the present census problem -- but one request, please do not mention "turbot". Do not be disappointed if some papers do not publish anything about census -- like everything else, newspapers are often political, I have found. Have fun reading from coast-to-coast-to-coast -- even in Inuit!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To All Dedicated Genealogists; To paraphrase and substitute my own composition: If we don't know where we came from, presumably we don't know where we are going. So, come on, Captain Canada, here's your chance. Arm yourself with the report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Material, and strike a blow for Canadian history. A country without a past has no future. Bill Waiser is a member of the University of Saskatchewan's history department. ---------------------- [Melville R. Andress] Original Message----- From: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 01/12/ 2001 5:00 AM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com Subject: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V01 #11

The following has been contributed by Gwen Christie, with thanks! The Globe and Mail, Thursday, January 11, 2001 SHOW US THE DATA Historical census records are crucial to understanding ourselves as a people, says history professor BILL WAISER. Ottawa must make the material available By Bill Waiser Ninety-two years is long enough to wait. In the past weeks, editorial pages have speculated about a new challenge for former Newfoundland premier Brian Tobin (aka Captain Canada) in his new role as federal Minister of Industry. Let me offer a suggestion, Mr. Tobin: Implement the recommendations of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Materials and show us the historical data about Canadians. Just over a year ago, former industry minister John Manley appointed an expert panel to recommend how the impasse over access to post-1901 census data could best be resolved. On the one hand, Statistics Canada and the Office of the Privacy Commissioner maintained that census material had been collected in the past under the promise of confidentiality. On the other, the National Archives, in association with heritage and genealogical groups, argued that census records constitute a national historic treasure and should be made available for public consultation, in accordance with the existing regulations in the Privacy Act, 92 years after the census was taken. The five-member panel, including a former Supreme Court judge and two university presidents, held several meetings with interested groups and individuals, read 2,500 pieces of correspondence, and considered public opinion research commissioned by Statistics Canada. The panel's report was delivered to the former minister's office at the end of June, 2000. But it was kept from the public for almost six months. And when it was finally released on Dec. 15, Mr. Tobin, the new minister, in the best Mackenzie King tradition, called for more study. Is this the same man who, as minister of fisheries a few years ago, was prepared to take on the entire Spanish fleet over the lowly turbot? Mr. Tobin's handling of the expert panel's report is troubling for a number of reasons. First, it is readily apparent that the Chrétien government does not like the solutions proposed by the panel -- no matter how reasonable and judicious they are. Mr. Tobin has indicated that further public consultation on the census issue will take place as part of a larger review of the Access to Information and Privacy acts. This process could take years, especially since the review of privacy legislation has not yet been announced. More importantly, why was the expert panel convened if its fine work was going to be ignored? Mr. Tobin also speaks of the government's deep commitment to privacy. Yet, he is a member of the same party that passed the Access to Information and Privacy acts in the early 1980s in a determined effort to strike a balance between the right to access and the right to privacy. MPs who participated in the House of Commons debate almost two decades ago not only acknowledged that the legislation represented a "dramatic turning point" in Canadian democracy, but embraced the idea of a balance between access and privacy as both laudable and achievable. What became of this policy? Mr. Tobin also refers to the assurance of confidentiality that Canadians were reportedly given at the time they completed the 1911 census -- the so-called Laurier promise. The minister should read the report. The expert panel reviewed all the evidence on this matter and found not a single reference to perpetual confidentiality; instead, it affirmed that census material, according to the regulations, was to be transferred to the National Archives of Canada as a permanent record. The panel also recommended that past and future census material should be released after an appropriate waiting period, noting that such a policy would bring Canada in line with the practices of Great Britain and the United States. Finally, Mr. Tobin seems worried that Canadians will refuse to participate in the census if the information is made available to researchers -- even after 92 years. Here, the Minister should turn to the history of his home province. When Newfoundland joined confederation in 1949, because of the change in administration, all census material up to and including 1945 was made available to the public. Yet Newfoundlanders continue to participate in the census at the same rate as other Canadians. Nor has there been a single complaint about the release of this information. Twentieth-century census material is absolutely essential to understanding the past lives of everyday people who made up the fabric of this country. It is also crucial to genealogical research, a pleasure enjoyed annually by thousands of Canadians seeking to find their roots in Canada's past. Indeed, without access to this census material, our history will be less complete and our identity as a people significantly compromised. So, come on, Captain Canada, here's your chance. Arm yourself with the report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Material, and strike a blow for Canadian history. A country without a past has no future. Bill Waiser is a member of the University of Saskatchewan's history department. ---------------------- Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

Hi Shay:- There is NO deadline re census petitions until we get the records released to National Archives -- so we never have to go through this again. These records are at National Archives, but until it goes through Parliament, we cannot view them. Shay - you did not give your address, but I presume it is Canada, because of the "sympatico" e-mail address. You and interested ones, if Canadian, may sign both the petitions for the House of Commons and the Senate - either or both languages. Non-Canadians may sign only the petition for the Senate. Re British Home Children -- Below the "Prayer" is a place to write where petitions are signed, by whom, e-mail or telephone number. Please - to help me -- mark BHC beside "Petition signed at" These will be kept separate as Senator Lorna Milne plans to speak about BHC. Suggestion: High school history teachers may be very interested, and would like to hear a short speech on what happened to the BHC. If a student is 16+, he or she would be 18 in 2003, when the 1911 census should be released. Please remember -- there is NO deadline at all!! However, with Parliament re-opening Jan. 29, 2001, Senator Milne and Murray Calder would like to have a huge supply of petitions on hand -- both like to "advertise". Will be watching for your many signatures, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm Shay Keen wrote: > Hello Muriel > > I was wondering when you want the census petitions mailed to you. If > you want them mailed to you or who you want them mailed to. I won't > want my signatures to not count because they were late. > > Thank you for all your hard work > Sincerely > Shay Keen > G-granddaughter of BHC Alfred Skilton

To all: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren/ Several week ago I had printed off the first few pages of NEITHER WAIF NOR STRAY by Perry Snow. I visited my favorite library in Brampton, left the pages for the librarian to read, also ordered the book on inter-library loan. Today I picked up the book -- but before I left there were SIX (6) people who listed their names for this book -- guess it will not be leaving Brampton for a few weeks!!! Looking forward to reading it -- Gordon, you may have your Hansard!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee

To all:- Every day brings more mail -- and I will soon have a nice tall stack of petitions for Senator Lorna Milne -- after I tabulate them. One SURPRISE letter came from TITLE RESEARCH, worldwide, dealing in Probate & Succession Genealogy. I will type the content of the letter for you -- the letter, with signature, will be given to Senator Milne. Looking forward to many more surprises, including the OGS leading the way with petitions -- I will keep petitions from ALL Canadian genealogical societies separate. In the place (Signed at>>>>) list the name of the group, or simply OGS - Ottawa, Ontario then Name of One Sending petitiion. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ======================================= [LOGO] TITLE RESEARCH Probate & Succession Genealogy - Worldwide Our ref: TPC/ar 2nd January 2001 Ms. Muriel M. Davidson 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton Ontario, Canada L6W WR8 Dear Ms. Davidson Canada Census - post 1901 We undertand that you are submitting a petition to the Canadian senate in support of the early release of the Canadian census. Title Research, a worldwide organization, with over 45 permanent staff, supports the petition totally. Yours sincerely, [Signature} Tom Corran Managing Director CHARTER HOUSE . 2 FARRINGDON ROAD . LONDON EC1M 3HN . Tel: 020 7549 0900 FAX: 020 7549 0949 . DX: 53347 CLERKENWELL . EMAIL: INFO@TITLE-RESEARCH.CO.UK WWW.TITLE-RESEARCH.COM . INTERNATIONAL TEL: +44 20 7549 0900 . FAX: +44 20 7549 0949 LONDON . DURBAN . EDINBURGH . SALT LAKE CITY . TORONTO . WARSAW

Muriel et al If you have access to The Calgary Herald I think you might be interested in the article on page A11 of that paper January 7, 2001. This is the COMMENT section and it covers one half page four columns wide. Part of this is the heading It's time to let go of 1906 census information. Below this is a carricture of Brian Tobin and a "right good" article. Larry Doreen & Larry McCool Calgary AB Canada mccoollh@cadvision.com Please visit our website at http://www.cadvision.com/mccoollh/

To all:- The National Archives of Canada is performing a survey until January 15th. This survey will help determine what material the NAC will put on the web in the future as part of their digitalized collections. Some of their proposed projects will be of more interest to genealogists than others. If you would like to complete this survey, it can be found at: http://www.archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&0104&e&top&0 In light of the attempts of Canada's Privacy Commissioner to suppress all data, in perpetuity, from any post-1901 Census, I feel that it would be most helpful if as many people as possible could fill out this survey and emphasize how necessary it is that the censuses be kept accessble and that post-1901 censuses be made available as soon as possible. ============== Please fill out form NOW!!! Your Future Research MAY Depend On It!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- There is a new family member on our coast-to-coast-to-coast genealogy site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html I suggested this to Bryan as British Home Children and the stories have become very dear to me. Visit the new LCCCC family member -- BRITISH HOME CHILDREN - you will be surprised how many children were sent from England at various times, names changed, siblings separated -- the search goes on. It is hopeful the 1906 and 1911 census records will hold a number of answers. To BHC:- May I suggest one person collect ALL petitions then forward to Gordon Watts for House of Commons and to myself for the Senate. In this way, we will guarantee your petitions are kept separate. Non-Canadians may also submit petitions for the Senate. The scoreboard is being updated -- hard-copy letters are read, e-mails are counted as to category, postage is FREE in Canada -- so W-R-I-T-E-!-!-! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Campaign Committee member http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

To all family researchers who use census records:- The election is over, there is a new format for petitions, Gordon Watts has updated the Member of Parliament Scoreboard as of Nov. 29, 2000. I know Senator Lorna Milne will be using the same wording in a Private Member's Bill on our behalf. Murray Calder, MP was re-elected -- he had the duplicate of Senator Milne's Private Member's Bill, but in House of Commons. When both receive approval to present their Private Member's Bills, these will have numbers different than former S-15 and C-484 -- these are assigned by some department of Parliament -- I will let Gordon Watts and his love of Hansard answer all this. One main and important fact I learned from Senator Milne is that she needs ALL THE CANADIAN PETITIONS she can get -- would like these for the First Reading -- which will be after February 1, 2001. Non-Canadian Petitions are greatly desired, but may only be used with the Second Reading and on a percentage basis. Canadians -- if you wish the post-1901 census records released, let's get busy and collect signatures from all family and friends, get the petitions out in libraries, genealogical societies -- and back to either Gordon Watts or myself -- our addresses are on the petitions, downloadable in PDF format from http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm (I have attachments) Groups may send in "packages of petitions" -- for example, British Home Children and other groups. Please do not mark anything extra on the petition -- a "sticky" note will do -- I will put these in a separate envelope for Lorna Milne as I know Gordon will do for Murray Calder. Check http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm Nov. 29, 2000 totals included 97 GOLD, 7 NO, 49 FENCE-SITTING and a total of 148 QUESTION MARKS. [These include new Members of Parliament] For anyone unable to use Adobe Acrobat, contact me -- tell me which petition(s) you need, and I will send attachments {I use Norton - virus-free} Canadians may sign TWO petitions, one for Senate, one House of Commons. Gordon and I will be looking for stuffed mail-boxes from now on -- we have to help Lorna and Murray to help us. Also, you will find many web sites are being linked to a census site -- if a reader has a web page, just ask -- more exposure for your site. My page is linked to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html with a "designer flag logo" created by Barney Kaufman. A click on this and I am transported to the census pages, with petitions, scoreboard, etc. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [OUR coast-to-coast-to-coast genealogy site]

http://www.cmtint.org/cmt2.htm The above URL provides a description of a Genetically Inherited Disease, known mainly among people of Acadian descent. It is interesting -- my grandson has been researching this at Waterloo University as part of he pre-med studies. For more Genetically Inherited diseases, my submission is at http://globalgenealogy.com/census/ >>>>> Submissions Many contributed to this one, which was forwarded to the Expert Panel. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

Greetings All. I do not normally post messages regarding possible viruses etc, however, following my last posting titled "Where do we go from here??" I received 32 email at one time. Three of those were spam while 11 of them were the "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - The Real Story" message that carries an attachment that is a virus. If you have at any time received such a message, and opened the attachment, then your PC is infected and you should check it with an up to date virus checker. For you to send it to me (without your knowledge) my email address of gordon_watts@telus.net would be in your email address book. I copy here a list of partial email addresses that I have been able to determine from the headers of these messages and some received previously. Certain ones I have received from a number of times (those marked with *). If you should recognize any of these as being part of your email address, your PC has the virus and you should take steps to remove it. I post this message not as a complaint but to inform some of you that may be infected. computer * cddn heinie dialin oemcomputer * edie-cosper don-s pavilion * sandia.aug.com starship.anc.net d5b9k2 pekemp drjohnsn cowens If any of you forwarded my previous posting to other lists, please forward this message to those same lists. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

To: L. Lalonde, as found on the QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com list:- Canada still has its Canadian census records, but many are attempting to keep them from us -- trying to make us believe the enumerator vows of "not telling all" means forever. The elected politicians will not believe the report of the Expert Panel, and thus genealogy and family research have had to be taken to the politicians -- and to US. Many are working with the Canada Census Committee - in both English and French languages -- <jgsimard@nbnet.nb.ca> represents Quebec. Wayne Cook is a strong supporter of census release, and I will reply offline to anyone about how he/she may assist -- the listowner prefers there be NO census discussion as there is a special list for that. Hoping to hear from many -- in either language! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm "L. Lalonde" wrote: <llalonde@better.net> HAS CANADA LOST ITS CENSUS It is time to settle this now! F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, "The test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in ones mind at the same time. YOU BE THE JUDGE The Wrong Road PLEASE GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE AND READ THIS NOTICE IN IT'S ENTIRETY http://www.waynecook.com

To: L. Lalonde, as found on the QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com list:- Canada still has its Canadian census records, but many are attempting to keep them from us -- trying to make us believe the enumerator vows of "not telling all" means forever. The elected politicians will not believe the report of the Expert Panel, and thus genealogy and family research have had to be taken to the politicians -- and to US. Many are working with the Canada Census Committee - in both English and French languages -- <jgsimard@nbnet.nb.ca> represents Quebec. Wayne Cook is a strong supporter of census release, and I will reply offline to anyone about how he/she may assist -- the listowner prefers there be NO census discussion as there is a special list for that. Hoping to hear from many -- in either language! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm "L. Lalonde" wrote: <llalonde@better.net> HAS CANADA LOST ITS CENSUS It is time to settle this now! F. Scott Fitzgerald once said, "The test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in ones mind at the same time. YOU BE THE JUDGE The Wrong Road PLEASE GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE AND READ THIS NOTICE IN IT'S ENTIRETY http://www.waynecook.com

Greetings All. I have just returned home from Calgary where I spent the Holiday season with my son and two grand-daughters. While in Calgary I met a number of times with Doug Joudrey and had the opportunity to meet with Dr. Robert Westbury and Lois Sparling, both members of the AFHS and both active in our campaign to obtain public access to Historic Census. We had a good discussion regarding what we could now do, considering that Industry Minister Brian Tobin's response to the Report of the Expert Panel was to call for "further study". It is plain that Mr. Tobin has no intention of following through on the recommendations of the Expert Panel. For my own part, I will immediately be submitting three more Access to Information Requests. The first two will be to Statistics Canada. One will be seeking to obtain any and all documented evidence that proves the existence of the "promise" of never ending confidentiality of Census that StatCan claims was made to the people of Canada by the government of Sir Wilfrid Laurier in 1906. The "explicit guarantee of indefinite confidentiality" and "the legal promise Parliament made to Canadians" quoted by StatCan and the Privacy Commissioner will be included in this request. I do not expect the government to be able to produce this documented evidence. The second request will be for the 1906 census enumeration records for the Kindersley and Fairmont districts of Saskatchewan where I have family interests. This request will be made on the grounds that there is no legal restriction to public access of these records. I expect that this request will likely be refused outright. The third ATI request will be to the office of Sheila Copps seeking a Report on the National Archives and National Library commissioned by Ms. Copps in 1999. It was by John English, historian and professor at the University of Waterloo. Like the Report of the Expert Panel, it is reported to have recommended public access of Historic Census Records. While the first two requests are expected to be refused, or found unable to be answered, the responses to those requests will be valuable in an upcoming event. That event will be an action to the Supreme Court of Canada for immediate release to the National Archives of the Census enumeration records for the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. To that goal Lois Sparling is seeking someone willing to be the plaintiff in such an action. The individual selected would preferably be someone having a demonstrable need for access to the 1906 Census, and should live in a town or city that has a regional office of the Supreme Court of Canada - preferably in Saskatchewan. If you would consider being a part of such an action please contact Lois at sparlinl@home.com . We will be seeking also a lawyer living in the same area of the selected plaintiff who would be willing to participate in this effort, preferably on a "pro bono" basis. Bob Westbury will be contacting as many Genealogical and Historical Societies as he can get email or snail mail address for to elicit their co-operation in joint efforts to support projects such as that above. Public access to Historic Census records has been subject of discussion for at least the past 30 years. Enough is enough. It is time now to make it clear to Mr. Tobin that we want access to the 1906 Census NOW, and continuing access to all subsequent Census 92 years after collection as allowed by Regulations attached to the Privacy Act. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS gordon_watts@telus.net Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petitions now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm This message has been sent to the Canada-Census-Campaign-L, Can-British-Columbia-L, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Roots-L, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. Permission to forward without notification is granted.

This is how a LINK to a census site could appear:- !! IMPORTANT NEWS !! POST 1901 CENSUS PROJECT Protect Canadian Census Records From Destruction Add your voice to those concerned about the 'Sealed Census Issue' ---------------------- This one does not, as yet, have the familiar (to me) Canadian flag logo, but links directly to the "globalgenealogy" sites. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [Our COAST-TO-COAST-TO-COAST Genealogy Site]

[The following is a sample letter anyone may copy for LINKING] To all:- Census records are the basic historical items in genealogical research, with a group of volunteers working to have these released for all. Would it be possible to LINK to two of our Post-1901 census sites:- http://globalgenealogy.com/census/ >>>> Other Sites [Gordon Watts <gordon_watts@telus.net> would do the reciprocal linking http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html [Bryan Keddy <bryanfkeddy@ns.sympatico.ca> maintains this page] Senator Lorna Milne of Brampton and Murray Calder, MP, (Peel-Dufferin- Wellington-Grey) will be presenting Private Member's Bills on our behalf. Petitions are also very much needed: http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm The Canada Census Committee asks for support for census release. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542