To all:- This message is covering a number of topics --so may seem disjointed!!!! When talking to Rick Roberts of Global Genealogy today, he told me the Gazette could be finished early this evening -- then it was "full steam ahead" on the many changes being made to the census pages. We could have BILINGUAL census pages by Friday, at the latest. Also, each province will be on a different page -- here is a suggestion: - Turn on the printer -Go to http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm -Print all 14 pages -- will take more paper after being divided. WHY? I use these when I am sending e-mails or letters to the Members of Parliament, welcoming them back, asking for SUPPORT as Senator Lorna Milne and Murray Calder, MP re-present identically worded Private Member's Bills -- with new numbers for Hansard designation. To date I have finished Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and the 7 RED X'sand mark off the ones to whom I have sent a letter. I have already had one reply and hope he will dump the X -- but this man is very determined as I know the family, as does Rick Roberts. By tomorrow evening I will be in contact with Jean-Guy Simard and a French language memo for the Bloc MPs -- I was advised ONLY French for them. We had been sending them for French language petitions with English instructions. Today, one memo received mentioned the Expert Panel would be to blame if the census is not released. The people on the panel did their work, delivered it to John Manley June 30, 2000. It was not released until Dec. 15, 2000 by Brian Tobin -- under pressure of an Access to Information request. WHO held up the report -- NOT the Expert Panel -- so please, put the blame in the correct area of politics!! It is the POLITICIANS who do the voting. I feel satisfied with the Expert Panel report, a safe passage of the two incoming Private Member's Bills would look after census records after 1918 -- EXCEPT The Hon. Brian Tobin, MP, appointed as Minister of Industry before he became a Member of Parliament -- he wants MORE DISCUSSION!!!!! - and at our expense!!!! Let us all welcome them back with lots of paper!!!! The staff members will likely answer the letters -- so my last sentence has been:- "Looking forward to a letter or e-mail with YOUR name and a positive YES" [Hope he/she gets my meaning!] When "welcoming" back the ones we elected to represent us, and we pay their salaries, be courteous, please do not mention name of the political party (NO-NO) make your memo brief, and postage is FREE. Signing your name is not just name and e-mail address -- but full address AND telephone number with area code -- I know of five Nova Scotians who will reply by phone. Try to write down a few phrases, definitely if YES (the NO ones do not call), then send message to either myself or Gordon Watts, as we are in contact several times a day. When I receive a memo like that, I record it, then FORWARD to Gordon for posting on the MP's message board. Brian Tobin may be complacent about census as the Newfoundland census is online up to 1945 - the province became part of Canada in 1949. We must show him WE are not complacent -- otherwise you will see the 2001 census in 2094. Let's give him a REALLY WARM WELCOME BACK TO OTTAWA! In other words, if YOU want the census, do something!!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee member 25 Crestview Avenue Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 1-905-451-3542

To all:- I received my first official British Home Children petition today -- from a lady in Alberta -- mine was for the Senate so Gordon will likely receive the same for House of Commons. On the page where it states "Signatures obtained at" -- I simply marked BHC in the margin, The one collecting the signatures had already added her name and written in her ancestor's BHC name. More than one signature may be signed -- basically -- the family and all who believe in your quest. This petition is already filed in its own plastic zip-lock bag with BHC on a sticker. Keep them coming, please!!! This is a great cause -- and what better way than to have it recorded with history in Hansard by Senator Lorna Milne. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

http://www.elderrage.com/SampleChapter.asp To all, The above URL will give the reader "a day in the life of a caregiver" of one with dementia or alzheimer's. Very frightening thoughts are the actual beginnings of alzheimer's are 30 years before being noticed. Don Nesbit, now deceased, wrote about this subject and it may be found http://globalgenealogy.com/census >>>> Other Sites >>>> Submissions Look for Genetically Inherited Diseases by myself and many others. Read it over -- should we do another one? Should we simply keep mentioning these G.I.D.s to our Member of Parliament? I personally feel the latter is the way to proceed -- UNLESS Brian Tobin appoints another discussion group!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- Today brought FIVE (5) more petitions and my FIRST French language petitions from Quebec!!! Many, many thanks!!! I will begin tabulating these tomorrow -- I would like Senator Lorna Milne to have another small suitcase with her when she returns for the opening of Parliament Jan. 29th, 2001. Please do not forget -- A person may sign both House of Commons and Senate petitions at the same time -- also both English and French, as our country has two official languages. Non-Canadians do NOT need to have roots in Canada -- just interest!!! To date, only ONE Canadian Genealogical Society petition, plus several from United States. WHERE ARE THE CANADIAN SOCIETIES??? We are not kidding -- this is a "make or break" time -- if we do not get the census records opened with these coming Private Member's Bills, we are hopeful you will live until 2094 when the 2001 census is released. Gordon Watts and I have been working long hours on your behalf -- we also need census records for personal research. With assistance from Jean-Guy Simard and Lise Drapeau, the census pages are now bilingual -- NO EXCUSE! To date the pages are not completely loaded -- all we ask from researchers and genealogical societies are collections of SIGNATURES -- nothing else. Senator Lorna Milne and Murray Calder, MP will present the Bills for us. Some messages may be coming to several lists in French and English, with translations by Jean-Guy Simard -- mainly QUEBEC-RESEARCH list. He will accept queries in French at <jgsimard@nbnet.nb.ca> as will Victor Luce at <lucevic@nbnet.nb.ca> Please keep the mail box filled!! I do personal delivery to Senator Milne, as she lives several blocks from me in Brampton, Ontario. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html

To: <psnow@cadvision.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:40 AM Subject: Re: Message for Surviving Child Migrants Hi For Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security (both under Income Security Programs), write to Jane Stewart who is Minister of Human Resources Development. In addition also write to the Ministers responsible for - the Department of Veterans Affairs, there is also the Canadian Pension Commission, the Superannuation Annuation Branch (federal public service), the RCMP (they have their own pension plan). He might also want to consider - the Speaker of the House of Commons and the Speaker of the Senate to ask if members of each House could spread the word to their constituents, and then there is the Canadian Legion who publish their own magazine. Marie Joan Huntley <mdipacio@magma.ca> Ottawa Canada ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

with thanks to Perry Snow and the BRITISHHOMECHILDREN list Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> psnow@cadvision.com wrote: Hello: When I met with Dave Lorente a few months ago, I discovered that very few BHC have benefitted from he Travel Fund. One significant problem with the fund is that so few are aware of it. Dave took my suggestion that perhaps Canada Pension, Veterans Affairs, etc could put a notice in a mail-out along with pension cheques to all pensioners in Canada notifying them of the terms of the Travel Fund. At least this would help to make any surviving BHC aware of it, and perhaps some of them could qualify. Dave passed my suggestion along to the ISS (Canada) and I hope they follow through as the Travel Fund is only available until 2002. "In April 1999, the British Health Minister announced that £1 million ($2.23 million) was available to Canadian Home Children to reunite with close family in Britain (British High Commission 1999). The Canadian Government did not match this offer. As always, they assume no responsibility for the British Home Children whom they imported to Canada." "The aged British Home Children and their descendants will have a short time to trace relatives, as money will only be available for three years. The Travel Fund administrators argued that "one or two individuals" might trace relatives after this time, but this is insufficient reason to keep the fund available on an "unlimited basis" (British High Commission 1999)." Neither Waif Nor Stray: The Search for a Stolen Identity http://www.upublish.com/books/snow.htm 2000 p 193-194. Hopefully, some of the younger Australian Child Migrants will qualify and benefit from the Travel Fund. I would be interested to know how these funds were ultimately spent and how many Canadians were able to avail themselves of it. Best Wishes Perry Snow Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: Marj Kohli <marj@ist.uwaterloo.ca> To: <BRITISHHOMECHILDREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: Message for Surviving Child Migrants I would like to pass along a message -- but it is only for surviving child migrants: If you know of a surviving child migrant healthy enough to travel with a companion please have him or her get in touch with Dave Lorente (613) 432-2486 or Agnes Casselman of International Social Service Canada at (613)236-6161. The notice also says you should not be scared off by the terms they impose because they may be able to wave them. This is in regards to a fund set up by the Gov. in the UK to assist child migrants to return to England. Also of note is the fact that any living child migrant may now contact the British Central Index people to obtain their records. (If you qualify, ask Dave or Agnes about this.) Unfortunately, this index only contains the names of the children who came 1920 and later. Regards.. Marjorie Kohli Waterloo, ON Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/

Many thanks Connie for passing along the well-written article by Bill Waiser. There are several others posted, as well:- French and English versions of an article by Dave Obee; a recent one by Adrienne Leduc; an older one by Dean Jobb, Halifax Herald. AS we receive these, they are posted. As Bryan Keddy and I receive these, we post them for sharing on http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Also printable are two other articles THE MYTHS OF CENSUS by Gordon Watts and MEMORANDUM OF LAW by Lois Sparling -- the latter dealing with the 1906 census of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba -- should have been released in 1998. Watch for A NEW LOOK on all census pages -- bilingual -- Gordon Watts has sent all pages for posting, and has been assisted by Jean-Guy Simard and Lise Drapeau. Jean-Guy may be contacted at <jgsimard@nbnet.nb.ca> - either language. Letters are needed -- the residents of Quebec want the census as much as other Canadians -- please keep my mail-box filled!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> http://globalgenealogy.com/census >>>>> Many sites

http://www.mts.net/~mgsi/ The above is a new site address for Manitoba Genealogy Society. Forget the former one as of Dec. 31, 2000 -- I visited the site -- it has many topics, provinces, Commonwealth Graves, and much, much more! Enjoy! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

There was an article in the paper "The West Australian" talking about compensation for those sent out here in the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's. They mentioned that other children were also sent to America, but they make no mention of Canada at all. There is a group of 98 who are appealing to the British Govt for compensation at the way they were treated when they arrived here. They are also still trying to get their records to find out if they have relatives or not. Hopefully something will come out of this, and one advantage those who were sent to Australia have is that they are still alive and able to pursue their past whereas a lot of the poor souls who were sent to Canada died not knowing. Good luck to everyone in their searches for the truth about their families. Sandy Jones <sanjones@wn.com.au> ----------------------- CHILD MIGRANTS CHALLENGE UK By Anne Buggins FORMER British child migrants based in Perth have issued a legal challenge to the British Government in the European Court of Human Rights. About 93 former migrants have lodged claims with the court alleging that Britain violated the European Convention on Human Rights by denying them access to official records which might have helped them trace their families. Part of their legal team includes the United States class action legal firm which successfully represented relatives of Jewish Holocaust victims in a multi-billion-dollar claim against European banks two years ago. "We have got a Goliath to fight a Goliath," International Association of Former Child Migrants and their Families president Norman Johnston said this week. Mr Johnston 58, of Riverton, said the migrants who had lodged claims were mainly Australian, though some lived in Britain and the US. He claimed between 7000 and 10,000 British children were sent to Australia in the 1940s, 50s and 60s as part of an international scheme in which 130,000 children were deported worldwide. Many claim they suffered physical and sexual abuse in institutions in Australia. Mr Johnston said former child migrants were emotionally scarred by their experiences. Sending them away from their families and later refusing them access to records was unforgivable. He said the British Government had dodged responsibility for the former migrants"plight by referring their claims to the Australian Government, which had said State governments were responsible. In the meantime, former child migrants continued to suffer social and health problems and remaining relatives continued to die. Former child migrant Desmond McDaid, 56, of Applecross, said he found his mother only eight years ago. "It's a desperate status now, people are dying," he said. "Nature has imposed a sunset clause." The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg can hear allegations of human riots violations against the 41 European signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights. It has the power to identify violations, which member countries usually act to remedy and, in some cases, will order compensation be paid. The claims, which were lodged this month, must be formally admitted for hearing before they can proceed. If admitted, claims can take up to two years to finalise. ----------------------- Sandy and Lenny Jones 79 Endersbee Street, MERREDIN WA 6415 sanjones@wn.com.au ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== BHC Registry (Database)and BHC Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren BHC Chat: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/descendantsofhomechildren ============================== Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Many thanks, Janet! I have forwarded this interesting site to the CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list -- I feel many will enjoy it. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ----------------------------------------- I have just found an interesting account of travel of a group of children from the Douglas Industrial Home of the Isle of Man, associated with Mr. Quarrier and the Orphan Homes of Scotland. A group of children travelled from Isle of Man to Glasgow to Greenock, sailed aboard the SS Buenos Ayrean (Allan Line) on March 25, 1892 to Halifax, traveling on to the Brockville Fairknowe home. http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/famhist/genealgy/can2.htm I hope this link works. It gives a daily diary of the trip on sea and travel and reception in Canada. Janet Mauza <b.e._mauza@telus.net> Abbotsford, BC ==== BRITISHHOMECHILDREN Mailing List ==== ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

The following mainly relates to British Home Children. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Hi Perry: Just to let you know I wrote to the Salvation Army in London, England and the Toronto organization wrote me back. They wrote on August 17, 2000: We regret to advise that your request does not fall within the scope of our normal tracing program. We do not conduct a search where the inquiry relates to family history. However, you may wish to contact the following who maybe able to help you. The Ellen Foundation Inc P.O. Box 2601 Charlottetown, PEI C1A 8C3 Phone: (902) 963-2381 Has anyone written the Ellen Foundation? Sincerely, Victoria Gregory (Fitton) Searching for Winifred Mary Ellen Andrews (BHC) Found William Douglas Gregory (BHC)

My sincere apologies re the article written by Adrienne Leduc -- it came through perfectly to me -- what you saw on Rootsweb was not at all like it was sent. Should anyone wish a better copy -- it will be on attachment in WORD. It looks like I was requesting to subscribe to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN and as for the MIME -- please do not blame me -- it did not show on BOSTON-STATES. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

with thanks to Perry Snow and the BRITISHHOMECHILDREN list Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> psnow@cadvision.com wrote: > Hello: > When I met with Dave Lorente a few months ago, I discovered that very few BHC have benefitted from he > Travel Fund. One significant problem with the fund is that so few are aware of it. Dave took my > suggestion that perhaps Canada Pension, Veterans Affairs, etc could put a notice in a mail-out along > with pension cheques to all pensioners in Canada notifying them of the terms of the Travel Fund. At > least this would help to make any surviving BHC aware of it, and perhaps some of them could qualify. > Dave passed my suggestion along to the ISS (Canada) and I hope they follow through as the Travel Fund > is only available until 2002. > > "In April 1999, the British Health Minister announced that £1 million ($2.23 million) was available to > Canadian Home Children to reunite with close family in Britain (British High Commission 1999). The > Canadian Government did not match this offer. As always, they assume no responsibility for the British > Home Children whom they imported to Canada." > > "The aged British Home Children and their descendants will have a short time to trace relatives, as > money will only be available for three years. The Travel Fund administrators argued that "one or two > individuals" might trace relatives after this time, but this is insufficient reason to keep the fund > available on an "unlimited basis" (British High Commission 1999)." > Neither Waif Nor Stray: The Search for a Stolen Identity http://www.upublish.com/books/snow.htm 2000 > p 193-194. > > Hopefully, some of the younger Australian Child Migrants will qualify and benefit from the Travel > Fund. I would be interested to know how these funds were ultimately spent and how many Canadians were > able to avail themselves of it. > > Best Wishes > Perry Snow > Listowner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marj Kohli <marj@ist.uwaterloo.ca> > To: <BRITISHHOMECHILDREN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:42 AM > Subject: Message for Surviving Child Migrants > > I would like to pass along a message -- but it is only for surviving child > migrants: > > If you know of a surviving child migrant healthy enough to travel with a > companion please have him or her get in touch with Dave Lorente (613) > 432-2486 or Agnes Casselman of International Social Service Canada at > (613)236-6161. The notice also says you should not be scared off by the > terms they impose because they may be able to wave them. > > This is in regards to a fund set up by the Gov. in the UK to assist child > migrants to return to England. Also of note is the fact that any living > child migrant may now contact the British Central Index people to obtain > their records. (If you qualify, ask Dave or Agnes about this.) > Unfortunately, this index only contains the names of the children who came > 1920 and later. > > Regards.. > > Marjorie Kohli > Waterloo, ON Canada > > http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/ > >

To all:- This is my husband's area -- and there are certainly a huge number of ???? instead of the given name for the Davidson family member.I will be checking my records and writing to the e-mail address -- I believe I am able to dump all the ???? and add names instead. You can imagine the fun I will have when Queens County comes online!!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> Canada Census Committee [Check the URL above for DAVIDSON history] ============================================= GUYSBOROUGH DISTRICT, NOVA SCOTIA CENSUS, 1901: WHITEHEAD, TRACADIE, MARIE JOSEPH, MANCHESTER This database contains more than 3,200 entries of residents in the census district of Guysborough (#32), Nova Scotia in 1901. It lists information for the following subdistricts: Manchester (M), Marie Joseph (N), Tracadie (U), and Whitehead (V). The database contains each person's full name, relationship to the head of the household, full date of birth, and birthplace, as well as year of immigration to Canada (if not Canadian by birth). It also includes the National Archives film number, division number, page, and family number to help researchers obtain a copy of the actual record, if desired. Source Information: Hewitt, Kris, comp. "Guysborough District, Nova Scotia Census, 1901: Whitehead, Tracadie, Marie Joseph, Manchester." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original data: Government of Canada. "1901 Canada National Census." Canada: Canada National Archives, 1901. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5356.htm

The Census Dates for NS are: 1851 12 Jan 1852 1861 14 Jan 1871 2 Apr 1881 4 Apr 1891 6 Apr 1901 31 Mar With thanks to Bob Gillis. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com>

To all:- Many thanks to Adrienne Leduc for the following -- it is a History of Census Records as we look forward to the 2001 Canadian census!! Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> ============================================= Canadian Census History Statistics Canada is preparing to count heads across the country. In the distant future will our descendants be able to consult the historical census records of 2001? Will the numerous details of that census shed light on us - their ancestors? Under current legislation, going back more than 90 years, any census taken after 1901 will never again be released to the public. Without a change in the legislation Canada's data from census will be lost to historians. The unavailability of the historical census records, an item of our culture, would constitute a harmful impoverishment of our nation's heritage. Taking the census of population has been established in Canada since 1666. The National Archives of Canada contains evidence, in the form of letters and schedules, that the early Canadian censuses were taken by enumerators going from door to door. The nominal census of 1666 covers 154 pages of manuscript and includes the age, conjugal status and occupation of each person. The first reference to the census of 1666 appears in a letter written April 5, 1666 by Colbert, Ministre de la Marine to Intendant Jean Talon in Quebec City. In it Colbert requests that Talon forward a roster of all the inhabitants of the colony. November 13, 1666 Talon writes: ". . . . Here is the official report I promised you in my previous dispatch. I am enclosing the rolle [roster] of families in which there are a few omissions, but they can not be corrected until next winter." Talon continues by stating that in the total population of 3,215 there are 2,034 males and 1,181 females. The natives and royal troops are not included. Giving a description of the progress made in the colony he writes: "The newly cleared lands have appeared better to me because of the care that was taken. When I distributed the seeds I had brought last year, I insisted that a like amount [should] be returned to me at the present harvest and this has been done. . . . I have found that to encourage the inhabitants to grow a great deal of hemp it was necessary to reduce [induce] them to want thread. To this end I seized all [thread] that I could find here and I will only distribute it to those who agree to return a stated quantity of hemp . . . " In his letter of April 5, 1667, Colbert reminds Talon that his majesty, Louis XIV, expects to receive a more complete list of inhabitants, including the increase in population. He requests that it should also include the number of domestic animals of each kind, the number of acres under crop, and the increased number of acres under cultivation since Talon's arrival. It was chiefly Intendant Jean Talon, personally, who took the census during the months of September and October 1667. We can imagine this genial-appearing official with his hooknose and wearing a curled wig, going from door to door. He no doubt courageously travelled by canoe, and portaged many rapids. This census, taken during a time of year when many men were away hunting or trapping, lists 3,918 persons, not including the royal troops and the aboriginal. Still, in spite of its dispersion over a vast territory, the sparse agricultural population made it possible for the administration to draw up a very satisfactory status of the demographic situation. Criticism leveled at the census is not a modern product. More than 300 years ago the census takers were criticized for not enumerating more people that there actually were. On May 17, 1674, Colbert wrote to Governor Frontenac in Quebec: "Your main purpose should be to augment the number of people in that country. His Majesty was surprised to see by the tables that you sent me that there were only 6,705 men, women and children in Canada. He is convinced that the ones who took this census, under your direction, made an obvious error, considering that over ten years ago there were more people than now." Six years later, on November 13, 1680, the new Intendant Jacques Du Chesneau, wrote to Colbert: "I can truthfully say, Monseigneur, [that I followed] the order given by the King . . . . to examine with great care the increase or decrease of population during the last five or six years, and if there is a decrease to blame myself for not having executed his orders, that I have done everything possible for the advantage of the colony and the increase of the population." Later he adds: " I could not persuade myself to send you this year's census because I can not certify it as correct. There are 800 persons in the woods [coureurs de bois] a thing that is forbidden and I am unable to ascertain the exact number because the persons interested are hiding it [not cooperating]. . . ." The Intendant also mentions that there were 960 aboriginal men, women and children - all baptized. Obviously the other aboriginal were not baptized. Over the years, new questions were being added to the schedules at each succeeding census. In 1681 the number of arms possessed by each family was listed. In 1685 further inquiries were added as to buildings, houses and mills. Eventually, until the end of the 17th century data about churches, acres under pasture, and yield of field crops were added. Such detail made the census at the close of that century almost the equal of the modern census in its comprehensiveness. Canada instituted a regular census in 1851, taking its first dominion-wide census in 1871. Returns for 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 are generally nominal, meaning that each person of the family is listed individually, with details as to age, sex, country or province of birth, religion, racial origin, occupation, marital status, education and physical disabilities where applicable. Census records have been used extensively by historians, genealogists and, in increasing numbers, by those seeking information regarding genetically transmitted disease. The historical census records constitute a valuable and frequently consulted source. They are priceless documents, revealing the mode of life of years ago. As a genealogical researcher, I still remember the thrills of discovering "all about" some elusive ancestor, in the 1861 nominal census. The record revealed that here was an interesting story, told not in the usual way, but in the way that invited engagement with the data; I really wanted to absorb it. Here was information not available from any other source. The census of 2001 will count a great number of heads - a large increase since 1991 when Canada's population amounted to 27,296,859 individuals. However, we are at a crossroad. The preservation and accessibility of Canada's heritage depends on the documentation and interpretation of collections such as the historical census records. These are the records of our ordinary lives. In this new millennium we are keenly aware of our need to know our ancestors, so we can tell our unique stories. Adrienne Leduc is a freelance writer with interest in Early Canadian History. adrienneleduc@imag.net Adrienne Leduc 2710 Crescentview Drive North Vancouver, BC V7R 2V1

Subject: FUTURE CENSUS RECORDS Dear Mr. Derek Lee, You are in my riding. I voted for you many times in the past. I wish that you would take a hard look at this issue of releasing census records in the future. Instead of sitting BACK undecided. I believe as a tax payer, that I have along with all the other tax payers have the right to have access to future census records. I have been working on my family history for the last 9-10 years, and I am proud to say that I am a CANADIAN and this a FREE country. This election was a difficult one for me to vote on, for I have not seen you do much in the past couple of years. But you still received my vote this time. Show me that you care about this good cause of releasing future census records, it is in the matter of history. If you do not support this cause for the future of all our families, I do know where me next vote will be going. Have a look at the following web site http://www.waynecook.com/census.html Larry Lalonde Scarborough, Ontario, Canada

My friend is with @Home and he wishes that he never went ther. he has been with out @Home service for 4 1/2 days now. When he called Sunday night past he had OVER a 99 minute wait. On the news this morning they stated that OUR "ROGERS" cable internet supplier was having problems with changing over to some type of new equipment. You know what they say "The bigger they are the harder they fall" or is it "The bigger they are the more rotten the service is" sometimes small is better Larry ----------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- > [NOTE: There are problems on various Rootsweb lists with @Home]

Hi Larry:- Many thanks for posting your reply from The Hon. Brian Tobin, Minister of Industry -- sent by Pamela White -- my reply was identical down to the very last period. I enjoyed your "coffee" reply -- now he is going to get "something" going in the Maritimes!!! Instead of just posting the message to Tobin's message board, possibly we should start keeping score of how many receive identical messages. I did have one other from Mr. Tobin's office -- when I was attempting to learn the correct e-mail address, my reply came back from the CorrespondenceSecretary@ic.gc.ca The reply did not give the correct address, but other dictated words. Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> <muriel_davidson1@excite.ca> [NOTE: There are problems on various Rootsweb lists with @Home]

To all:- The new posting may show a change in figures, but there will definitely be a BIG change at http://globalgenealogy.com/census/index6.htm There will be French language items added, also each province will be on a separate page for faster opening, as many do not have fast computers. I feel the changes will be very satisfactory to all! However, many of the numbers at the last posting on Dec. 5/2000 are not good -- with 301 Members of Parliament, we need at least 175 to 200 stating he/she will be in favour of any census release Bill or Motion. Remember, Gold ticks mean YES - the MP is in favour -- but just to make certain, we should ask as these symbols reflect the previous time. RED X - means a very definite NO -- there are some who should vote otherwise! GREEN FENCES -- he or she cannot make up their respective minds about HOW to vote, including our Prime Minister, Jean Chretien. BLUE ? -- this means the Member of Parliament has not bothered to write to anyone -- I have had letters from the office staff of Joe Clark -- no reply from him. As for our new Minister of Industry, Brian Tobin, a big BLUE ? British Columbia: 4 FENCES 11 ? 1 X Alberta: 3 FENCES 8 ? Saskatchewan: 1 FENCE 5 ? Manitoba: 1 FENCE 4 ? 1 X Ontario: 23 FENCES 51 ? 5 X --- out of 103 Quebec: 15 FENCES 60 ? ------------- out of 75 New Brunswick: 4 FENCES 2 ? Nova Scotia: 1 FENCE 4 ? ------------- out of 11 Prince Edward Island: 2 FENCES 1 ? --------------out of 4 Newfoundland: 2 FENCES 5 ? -------------- including Brian Tobin NWT/Yukon/ Nunavut: --- 3 ? --------------out of 3 To all -- We have a lot of work to do -- you and I elected them -- our taxes pay their vacation pay (what else do we call it) -- they should answer!!! Please contact ME when you receive an answer, please, Muriel M. Davidson <davidson3542@home.com> <muriel_davidson1@excite.ca> Co-Chairman, Canada Census Committee