To the Members of this list: Gordon Watts has unsubscribed me from the Canada Census Campaign list, because I criticized Senator Lorna Milne. I was warned not to mention her name again, or he would unsubscribe me. That's his right, as the list owner. But Gordon, you need to know that I am NOT alone in my criticism of the good Senator. I have received many notes supporting my position, some of which use much stronger language than I have ever used either publicly or privately. You don't want to face the facts. Your "friend" is telling you one thing, while her actions betray everything you believe in. READ HER OWN WORDS! Read what she has to say about those that support amending the most noxious parts of this bill, She specifically mentions Gordon and Muriel, as wanting to "upset the applecart". She doesn't want the changes that you want, her own words say so. You have been had Gordon. I know that hurts, but it's the truth. You have been "misled" from the very beginning. You don't need to bother unsubscribing me again. I will never send another note to this list, unless you personally invite me to do so. I don't expect that to happen, because you don't want any free debate here. You only want those that will toe the party line. You especially don't want any "rabble rousers", right? Lynton Stewart

Greetings All For the information of all -- Lynton Stewart has been unsubbed from the CCC mail list and his email address has been placed on the reject list. This is the first time since the start of this mail list that I have had to take this action. I did not do so lightly and regret that I have found it necessary. I have had several private communications with Mr. Stewart requesting him to cease personalizing his messages and making personal attacks on anyone, in particular on or about Senator Lorna Milne. He was advised that should he make any further such postings that he would be unsubscribed. With his last post he obviously continues to personalize things, and he has been unsubbed. There may be those among the listers that disagree with my unsubbing Mr. Stewart but I have been more than lenient regarding his infractions of my main rule of this list -- NO FLAMES. If that disagreement causes any listers to unsubscribe themselves, that is regrettable but it will be the choice of those individuals. We all seek the same thing -- unrestricted access to all census records. We must continue to work together to seek that goal. No posts to the list regarding this message are necessary. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts List administrator.

What about sending one sheet of paper with the following info, to all the MPs & senators: the front will enclude: an example of a family group sheet (include reference for census sources) and why in twenty years time, you will not be able to fill it out for your parents, grandparents or great-grandparents' siblings, with further info about the census debate. the back will enclude: 5 generation pedigree chart, so that they might decide to get hook doing their own family history. WANDA SINCLAIR Rexdale, Ontario

To all:- Due to length of Senator Lorna Milne's April 30, 2003 speech to third reading of Bill S-13, it may be found at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Sen70.htm It is quite long, may be printed -- Senator Milne was interrupted once or twice, and her speech ends with "I believe that it is necessary for it to pass in order to allow Canadians guaranteed access to their history." ============ Senator Milne is now chair of the Senate's Rules Committee, and has "studied the creation of an ethics commissioner for the Senate at great length. I am very pleased to say that C-34, that was introduced by the government in May took into account all of the concerns that our committee's report raised. If passed, the bill will create a Senate Ethics Officer to administer a new code of conduct that is currently being developed." For information on all of the government's legislation visit www.parl.gc.ca Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Brampton, ON --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

Many thanks, Murray -- many feel the same -- I expect many more replies!!! Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] List Admin: CAN-YUKON mail list ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Lundberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Can-Yukon] Post 1901 Census - Opening of Canada History Centre "It will focus on our leaders, statesmen and stateswomen and political processes and institutions as well as on grassroots organizations and people from all walks of life who have shaped Canada's distinct model of democracy and governance" To spend $100,000,000 on this project while slowly starving the museums who honour the truly significant Canadians (the explorers, the pioneer farming families, the prospectors, etc) who built this country DESPITE the activities of the people who will be featured in this new museum, is nothing less than appalling. Murray ExploreNorth.com Discover the circumpolar North, from Alaska to Greenland and Siberia http://www.explorenorth.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

To all:- My words were taken "out of context". This is basically how I have ended any letters to politicians:- "Should you desire, an e-mail answer is acceptable if it is easier for your staff members" I sign any messages Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm YES -- Politicians love the rustle of paper -- especially bright colour! YES -- Many politicians prefer to reply to only his/her constituents YES -- Many love the "Hon." title -- generally follow the PMO rulings Several replies have been received -- one word -- YES In Canada, even 9 x 12 envelopes are FREE postage -- the assistant(s) might see the letter!! Left-over Christmas colours are nice and bright! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Henkin" <[email protected]> To: "Muriel M. Davidson" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [CCC] Bill S-13 - email vs written letters > Dear all, > Muriel suggested sending an email is easier than sending a written > letter. While this is certainly true, I have read that at least here > "south of the border" a written letter carries far more weight, exactly for > that reason. If someone takes the time to put pen to paper, and spends the > money to affix a stamp, the politician or corporate department takes that > letter far more seriously. > > An email is better than no letter, and a paper letter is best of all. > > Hilary Henkin > > At 11:19 PM 5/26/03 -0400, Muriel M. Davidson wrote: > >To all:- > >(snip) > >I suggest "each one write to one" -- suggest an e-mail may be easier than > >a written letter -- ask for support in having all restrictions removed, as > >I did. > > > >Muriel > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

Dear all, Muriel suggested sending an email is easier than sending a written letter. While this is certainly true, I have read that at least here "south of the border" a written letter carries far more weight, exactly for that reason. If someone takes the time to put pen to paper, and spends the money to affix a stamp, the politician or corporate departrment takes that letter far more seriously. An email is better than no letter, and a paper letter is best of all. Hilary Henkin At 11:19 PM 5/26/03 -0400, Muriel M. Davidson wrote: >To all:- >(snip) >I suggest "each one write to one" -- suggest an e-mail may be easier than >a written letter -- ask for support in having all restrictions removed, as >I did. > >Muriel

To all:- Will OUR Canadian census records be stored within, without any restrictions? These records form the foundation of other facets of Canadian history. These records and NEW Sea-Kings would be really memorable! Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Ave., Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm ======================= Greeting All. This afternoon I received an interesting email from Ian Wilson, National Archivist of Canada. He advised me of an announcement by Prime Minister Jean Chrétien regarding the formation of a Canada History Centre. I have placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature, new pages in both English and French that contain the News Release, a Backgrounder, and a speech by the Prime Minister regarding the formation of this Centre. I would urge listers to have a look at these pages as there are a number of interesting comments in them. >From the News Release: "The role of this institution will be to increase accessibility of all Canadians to their history." "The Canada History Centre will focus on those who have contributed to the building of Canada and the flourishing of our democracy." >From the Backgrounder: "The Canada History Centre will promote debate on Canada's history from diverse perspectives. It will focus on our leaders, statesmen and stateswomen and political processes and institutions as well as on grassroots organizations and people from all walks of life who have shaped Canada's distinct model of democracy and governance." >From the speech of the Prime Minister: "This Centre will soon become the site of one of the most important meetings in its history: one between Canadians and their shared past." "Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created." "We must once again strengthen the ties that bind us together and the understanding of Canada that we share. Our past must be near us as we move into the future." "Listen carefully and you can hear echoes in this magnificent building . ......... Echoes of immigrants arriving from Pier 21 in Halifax, some to stay, some to open up the Canadian West." "The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their ideas, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history." "The new Canada History Centre will open a door to the great wealth of our history and our heritage........" I suspect that there are those among us that are willing to point out to the Prime Minister that while he and the Canada History Centre seek to promote the history and heritage of the people of Canada, Statistics Canada and the conditions and restrictions of Bill S-13 seek to do just the opposite. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

The following is my opinion, after reading every word said by Senator Milne, in support of her bill S-13 I STRONGLY encourage everyone else on this list to also read what she says! There is no possible way that you could believe that she has the best interests of the genealogical community at heart, after reading what she has to say. In fact, she has only the governments position at heart, and damn what the people want, or need. She does not support any ammendment to this bill. She presents what we want, saying that she feels an obligation to do so, but she does NOT support that position at all. In fact, she is very strongly against amending the relevant areas. She appears to actually believe that this bill is a good thing. She says that Gordon and Muriel have been trying to "upset the apple cart", by trying to get amendments to this bill! She comes right out and says that this bill is to PREVENT the Canadian Federal Courts from ordering all of the Census returns being released after 92 years. What unmitigated arrogance! In effect she, and the Government, are saying, "We don't trust our Courts, they might force us to do something WE don't want to do. So we'll pass a law to prevent the people from having full access to the census, worded so the Courts can't make us." The Courts intrepret the law, that is their function. The government, and Senator Milne, must believe that their position is very weak, if they have to pass an entirely new law to shore it up! Could it be that they know full well that if this matter were to have a full hearing in the Courts, the census would be ordered to be released? They do not believe that the people have any rights at all, except those that the Government grants them. The courts don't agree with that approach, so the government will craft laws to thwart the courts. Indeed, Big Brother is alive and functioning in the Senate of Canada! There is no excuse for this. This fits so well with the new Political Museum concept. Let's have an all powerfull government, taking care of the little people. And lets show them how important we all are. What they want is not important, they really only want what we tell them they want. Anyone that supports this bill should be ashamed! ===== Lynton (Bill) Stewart A former dual Canadian and U.S. Citizen, who is not allowed to resume my Canadian Citizenship, because I was born before 1947. My younger siblings, born after 1947, are allowed to resume their Canadian Citizenship. Exactly the same circumstances, except for when we were born. To quote a Canadian Columnist, "if you were born in Canada, or your parents were Canadian, then you are a Canadian".

You have to understand the mind of this kind of politician. They really do believe that the peoples will is expressed through their actions. That they represent what the people would want, if only they really knew what was going on. Of course they can not believe that they are preventing the people from knowing the things the people should know. I love it, $90,000,000.00 to tell the people how wonderful their political leaders have been. At the same time, the government is working very hard to deny Canadians, and descendants of Canadians access to their families past. Yes indeed, lets tell people how grand the politicos are, but you can't learn about your grandparents. Isn't politics wonderful? ===== Lynton (Bill) Stewart A former dual Canadian and U.S. Citizen, who is not allowed to resume my Canadian Citizenship, because I was born before 1947. My younger siblings, born after 1947, are allowed to resume their Canadian Citizenship. Exactly the same circumstances, except for when we were born. To quote a Canadian Columnist, "if you were born in Canada, or your parents were Canadian, then you are a Canadian".

hmm..i see this announcement as fodder for our cannon. re-read it and everytime it mentions historic/civic..think of how the censuses help clarify the picture. i particularily like these two paragraphs. It will draw on the resources of the National Library and the Public > Archives of Canada, as well as other museums and collections. > > The museum will also highlight the important roles that aboriginals, > settlers and immigrants played in creating and transforming the > country. while this new museum will honour the "significant" canadians, will it also remember the ordinary canadians whose records/contributions will only be found on the census forms? they are the mesh that holds the cement of this great nation. they are hidden from view, but it is they who gave the durability and strength when building the frame work. it is the little guy who built the pedestals for our giants to stand on. Chretien > said in announcing the project. "The Canada of today was determined > by > the will of its people and by the vision of the leaders they chose to > represent them." lets push chretien to not just say these words, but to have them proudly displayed via the census records when the The Canadian History Centre opens. with out the followers, there can be no leaders. i repeat chretien's words.. "The Canada of today was determined > by > the will of its people and by the vision of the leaders they chose to > represent them." pretty darn good ammo to fire back at the leaders of the country..enough tunnel vision from ottawa, and the dept of stats..we want the full panorama of our history available..and that includes unrestricted access to all censuses..past, present and future. if we are going to honour canada's history..it can not be done without honouring ALL.canadians, even the guy who made the shoes for the pm, or the construction workers who build the provincial capitals or the farmers who grew the food to feed the workers. canada is the nation it is today, because our ancestors contributed in their own small ways to make the great leaders great. these little people deserve the recognition, they are canada's history. roz On Monday, May 26, 2003 8:26 PM, Ian Holmes [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > This just announced: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > New museum highlights Canadian history > To cost $90M and be built over five years > > Monday, May 26, 2003 > OTTAWA (CP) -- Prime Minister Jean Chretien announced plans Monday for > a > major new museum in the country's capital dedicated to political and > civic history. > > The Canadian History Centre, which will cost $90 million over five > years, will be housed in the city's former railway station, which has > been used as a government conference centre in recent years. > > "Our political history is a rich one that needs to be told," Chretien > said in announcing the project. "The Canada of today was determined > by > the will of its people and by the vision of the leaders they chose to > represent them." > > He said the centre will make political history more accessible by > arranging travelling exhibits, as well as using the Internet. > > It will draw on the resources of the National Library and the Public > Archives of Canada, as well as other museums and collections. > > The museum will also highlight the important roles that aboriginals, > settlers and immigrants played in creating and transforming the > country. > > It is expected the project will cost about $90 million, including $40 > million for renovations to the building, which was built between 1909 > and 1912. > > The centre joins the capital's other major museums, which include the > Museum of Civilization, the Canadian War Museum, the Canadian Museum > of > Nature, the Canadian Aviation Museum and the Canadian Science and > Technology Museum. > ? Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > I makes me sick to my stomach. > > While we, the ordinary people, are working so hard to persuade the > politicians to make our history available to us 92 years after it was > recorded, they go ahead and spent OUR money to distribute our rich > political history. > > Where is the justice in this country? > > Ian Holmes > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. >

YES He said it right on POLITICAL HISTORY ! ! ! I notice he did not mention the settlers of Canada, the ancestors of the 1600's who endured untold hard ships. As a descendant of many of those people this is the ultimate insult. What do we care about his political escapades? I want to find my family! ! My grandmother left Canada to marry my grandfather in the US, leaving behind 9 siblings. I have thousands of cousins, and they have been counted. Still there is some unaccounted for. Without the census we cannot find where they have moved to. I have a cousin who wrote a wonderful book about the ones he spent years locating. What a joy it has been to meet this extended family. However, there are gaps. The census would help us to find these people. I grew up thinking of Canada as my second home; home away from home, where a person is able to retreat to refresh and renew the tired spirit. Civic history - - - does this include knowing where our ancestors came from, where they lived, what they did? This is an outrage. Let Chretien raise donations for his posterity, but do not tax the people for a non essential expense. The outraged tax payers need to let it be known that this is not acceptable use of tax payers' money. The government does not have any money. The money is that of its citizens. Several hundred years ago we rose up in revolt time to do so again. Barbara Marrs Idaho USA -----Original Message----- From: Tom G. & Rita Offer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CCC] PM's Legacy Sounds as if Jean Chretien wants to build a memorial to himself. This money would be better used in the Health Care System. We DON'T need another museum!!!!!!!! Rita Ian Holmes wrote: > This just announced: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > New museum highlights Canadian history > To cost $90M and be built over five years > > Monday, May 26, 2003 > OTTAWA (CP) -- Prime Minister Jean Chretien announced plans Monday for a > major new museum in the country's capital dedicated to political and > civic history. > > The Canadian History Centre, which will cost $90 million over five > years, will be housed in the city's former railway station, which has > been used as a government conference centre in recent years. > > "Our political history is a rich one that needs to be told," Chretien > said in announcing the project. "The Canada of today was determined by > the will of its people and by the vision of the leaders they chose to > represent them." > > He said the centre will make political history more accessible by > arranging travelling exhibits, as well as using the Internet. > > It will draw on the resources of the National Library and the Public > Archives of Canada, as well as other museums and collections. > > The museum will also highlight the important roles that aboriginals, > settlers and immigrants played in creating and transforming the country. > > It is expected the project will cost about $90 million, including $40 > million for renovations to the building, which was built between 1909 > and 1912. > > The centre joins the capital's other major museums, which include the > Museum of Civilization, the Canadian War Museum, the Canadian Museum of > Nature, the Canadian Aviation Museum and the Canadian Science and > Technology Museum. > C Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > I makes me sick to my stomach. > > While we, the ordinary people, are working so hard to persuade the > politicians to make our history available to us 92 years after it was > recorded, they go ahead and spent OUR money to distribute our rich > political history. > > Where is the justice in this country? > > Ian Holmes > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

Hi Jean and Sheila The following are statements made by Jean to the parliament about his new proposed "History Centre". I think he is guilty of outright Lies. Please read my comments below: "The role of this institution will be to increase accessibility of all Canadians to their history." But you deny us this access by refusing to release the Census. I am 64 and can't wait for the Census release so I can work on it now as its hard to access a Computer from a Hospital Bed or a Grave. "The Canada History Centre will focus on those who have contributed to the building of Canada and the flourishing of our democracy." The people who contributed to the building were our Ancestors who cleared land, build homes, grew crops, fed the cattle and moulded the future, not politicians who sat and made some really stupid decisions. "This Centre will soon become the site of one of the most important meetings in its history: one between Canadians and their shared past." My shared past comes from my Grandparents and I would like to know more about them, but you have denied me that access through Bill S-13, "Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created." Access B-13 will give me that access your MUSEUM will only ruffle and preen the feathers of Politicians NOT the people that sweated to make Canada what it is today. "We must once again strengthen the ties that bind us together and the understanding of Canada that we share. Our past must be near us as we move into the future." Bill S-13 will grant us this and won't cost the exporbitant sum you state and that money could build a fantastic Health Care Base. "Listen carefully and you can hear echoes in this magnificent building. ......... Echoes of immigrants arriving from Pier 21in Halifax, some to stay, some to open up the Canadian West." But we can't find those immigrants as Census access is denied. "The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their ideas, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history." But we can't find them as access is denied to the Census. Just release the Census figures for the last 75 years and it won't cost too much at all. "The new Canada History Centre will open a door to the great wealth of our history and our heritage........" Access to the Census will open that door sooner. All your statements do is slap us and our Ancestors in the face. We want to know about them and we want to know them NOW not through this Grandeous Political Elephant that will only drain our pockets of our hard earned money. Just release the Census and make millions happy. Rita Offer, a former Cape Bretoner like Sheila's Grandfather. PS have either of you done a Family Tree???? I don't think so or the Census would have been released before this. Try doing a Tree and feel our frustration.

The deluge of e-mail to-day on the announcement of plans for a History Museum came as no great surprise. What a golden opportunity for the PM to announce that Bill S-13 will be amended to meet the needs of family historians - Canadians at that - and that the History Museum could well be the focal point, as part of the National Archives for census consultation, research, access. A new history museum and a new enthusiasm for access to historical records - could be a winning combination. Onwards: Gordon Taylor. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Sounds as if Jean Chretien wants to build a memorial to himself. This money would be better used in the Health Care System. We DON'T need another museum!!!!!!!! Rita Ian Holmes wrote: > This just announced: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > New museum highlights Canadian history > To cost $90M and be built over five years > > Monday, May 26, 2003 > OTTAWA (CP) -- Prime Minister Jean Chretien announced plans Monday for a > major new museum in the country's capital dedicated to political and > civic history. > > The Canadian History Centre, which will cost $90 million over five > years, will be housed in the city's former railway station, which has > been used as a government conference centre in recent years. > > "Our political history is a rich one that needs to be told," Chretien > said in announcing the project. "The Canada of today was determined by > the will of its people and by the vision of the leaders they chose to > represent them." > > He said the centre will make political history more accessible by > arranging travelling exhibits, as well as using the Internet. > > It will draw on the resources of the National Library and the Public > Archives of Canada, as well as other museums and collections. > > The museum will also highlight the important roles that aboriginals, > settlers and immigrants played in creating and transforming the country. > > It is expected the project will cost about $90 million, including $40 > million for renovations to the building, which was built between 1909 > and 1912. > > The centre joins the capital's other major museums, which include the > Museum of Civilization, the Canadian War Museum, the Canadian Museum of > Nature, the Canadian Aviation Museum and the Canadian Science and > Technology Museum. > © Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > I makes me sick to my stomach. > > While we, the ordinary people, are working so hard to persuade the > politicians to make our history available to us 92 years after it was > recorded, they go ahead and spent OUR money to distribute our rich > political history. > > Where is the justice in this country? > > Ian Holmes > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Mail Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

To Ian and all readers:- A long time ago, shortly after his decision to leave was first announced, I wrote and suggested a legacy that would benefit all -- full release of the Canadian census records. Needless to say -- to date I have not received a reply. Muriel M. Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Holmes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: [CCC] PM's Legacy > This just announced: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > New museum highlights Canadian history > To cost $90M and be built over five years > > Monday, May 26, 2003 > OTTAWA (CP) -- Prime Minister Jean Chretien announced plans Monday for a > major new museum in the country's capital dedicated to political and > civic history. > > The Canadian History Centre, which will cost $90 million over five > years, will be housed in the city's former railway station, which has > been used as a government conference centre in recent years. > > "Our political history is a rich one that needs to be told," Chretien > said in announcing the project. "The Canada of today was determined by > the will of its people and by the vision of the leaders they chose to > represent them." > > He said the centre will make political history more accessible by > arranging travelling exhibits, as well as using the Internet. > > It will draw on the resources of the National Library and the Public > Archives of Canada, as well as other museums and collections. > > The museum will also highlight the important roles that aboriginals, > settlers and immigrants played in creating and transforming the country. > > It is expected the project will cost about $90 million, including $40 > million for renovations to the building, which was built between 1909 > and 1912. > > The centre joins the capital's other major museums, which include the > Museum of Civilization, the Canadian War Museum, the Canadian Museum of > Nature, the Canadian Aviation Museum and the Canadian Science and > Technology Museum. > © Copyright 2003 The Canadian Press > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > I makes me sick to my stomach. > > While we, the ordinary people, are working so hard to persuade the > politicians to make our history available to us 92 years after it was > recorded, they go ahead and spent OUR money to distribute our rich > political history. > > Where is the justice in this country? > > Ian Holmes --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

To all:- This is from Senator Lorna Milne's quarterly report, has a photo of the Ekati Diamond Mine, 300km north of Yellowknife, NWT. Another photo of Sen. Milne in front of a truck at the mine will never make the "best dressed list" but appropriate for her locale at the time. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] ======================== SENATOR MILNE VISITS EKATI MINE IN NWT Earlier this spring, the Senate passed bill C-14 that enhanced the diamond industry in Canada. It put into law Canada's commitment to help rid the world-wide diamond industry of "blood diamonds". Companies that follow the law will be able to certify that their diamonds do not support civil wars, and this will allow our diamonds to be sold easily, and for a higher price, on the international market. Senator Nick Sibbeston from NWT sponsored the bill in the Senate, and after it was passed invited some Senators to Yellowknife to visit the mine. It was quite a trek, as the mine itself is 300km north of Yellowknife, and it required us to fly from Yellowknife just to get there. The Ekati mine is an excellent example of the way such a business should be run. By agreement with the government of the NWT and the aboriginal peoples of the area, 64% of the mine employees must be "Northerners" and 32% must be aboriginal. They all live together in accommodation provided on-site, very comfortable rooms with both TV and internet access provided. The employees work 12 hour shifts, seven days a week for two weeks, then are flown directly back to their home communities for two weeks off. Since they all get 2 weeks holidays each year, they effectively get six consecutive weeks off each year. On-site training courses are also provided and the recreational facilities on-site are extensive. The mine itself is awe-inspiring. It is still an open-pit operation, although it will go underground as they get deeper into the kimberlite 'pipe' that contains the diamonds. Both the safety precautions and the security precautions taken for their employees are impressive. They excavate and process 10,000 tonnes of ore each day at Ekati, and recover about 10,000 karats of diamonds per day. That amount would fit into a coffee can. The quality of the Canadian diamonds is extremely high. It has been said that experts can recognize Canadian diamond earrings from across the room! Not only is the quality of diamonds exceptionally high, but Canada will soon be producing 15% of the world's diamonds. This has been a tremendous economic boost for the NWT. == --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

To all:- There have been letters from Canadian Alliance party members that the party will NOT support Bill S-13 as presently written. I suggest "each one write to one" -- suggest an e-mail may be easier than a written letter -- ask for support in having all restrictions removed, as I did. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Sparling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Bill S-13 The Canadian Alliance are generally on side. The Progressive Conservative party has a leadership change coming up (and little presence in the House). Has anyone sounded out the Bloc Quebecois? Genealogy is important in the French Canadian community. Even though their ancestors were (generally) here long, long ago, we received donations from two French language genealogy groups for Beatty et al. And the NDP? Lois Sparling Calgary, Alberta --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

If you remember, the 1906 census for three prairie provinces was due to be released in March, 1998 - 92 years after enumeration. It was due to the threat of a federal lawsuit against one person that the sudden release finally came on January 24, 2003 -- only FIVE years late! Also, it is released in same UNRESTRICTED format as 1901. However, Bill S-13 as written will restrict census records as we know them -- it is our hope the House of Commons will be able to do what the Senate has not accomplished. In stating this, I do not include the Senator who sponsored Bill S-13, but the ones who are very negative, one Senator even thought the 1906 census included British Columbia -- NO -- Manitoba! One has to read the extracts from Hansard to understand the negativism among the appointed politicians. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm Muriel M. Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: [CCC] Bill S-13 After reading all the emails on the list, I am embarrassed to say I don't understand what is going on. What is Bill S-13 trying to do? I am under the impression that it is going to restrict access from the any future census, because how can they not publish 1911 census when it is the law to do so after 92 years? Thanks,Eileen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03

After reading all the emails on the list, I am embarrassed to say I don't understand what is going on. What is Bill S-13 trying to do? I am under the impression that it is going to restrict access from the any future census, because how can they not publish 1911 census when it is the law to do so after 92 years? Thanks,Eileen