As of this minute (5:15 p.m. EDT), the House is discussing Bill C-15 live on CPAC. This is a continuation of the debate from yesterday, so no idea of how long it might last. According to today's agenda, Bill S-13 should follow this. Sally

The House came on live on CPAC at 2:00 p.m. EDT and is now covering the statements by members. According to the Projected Order of Business for today, Bill S-13 is due to be covered, but it's not really clear what time this might happen. It looks like it might be the second item (Introduction of Government Bills) under the DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS beginning at 3:00 p.m. EDT. Sally

Just to make you all aware, just because an order of the House says that it will be debated at the next sitting of the House, it does not mean that it will. Each bill is passed at each reading that way, and then the house leaders get together to decide which bill will be debated on which days. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: joseph macdonald [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:06 PM To: Paul, Jeff: SEN Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CCC] S-13 in House of Commons How odd you didn't know, when you posted the message! First Reading of Senate Public Bills Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) , seconded by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. "Paul, Jeff: SEN" wrote: > Hey there everyone: > > I just wanted to let you all know that S-13 was introduced in the House of Commons yesterday where it passed first reading. This is a pro-forma stage where there is no debate. As soon as I know when it will come up for second reading, I will let you know. > > Jeff Paul > Policy Advisor > Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne > Ph: (613) 947-9744 > Cell: (613) 715-2965

Hey there everyone: I want to thank Juanita for figuring out the House of Commons procedure a little faster than I did. I double checked with Don Boudria's office, and yes indeed S-13 will be debated TODAY sometime between 3 and 5:30 Eastern time. Amendments are not usually done at this stage. I hope to find out who will be speaking on the bill sometime this morning. As soon as I find out I will let everyone know. Of course you can all watch the proceedings on CPAC. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: (613) 947-9744 Cell: (613) 715-2965

I read through yesterday's Hansard index and could find no reference to the debate on this bill. The Modernization of the Public Service Act was debated and passed, but this Bill didn't seem to make it. Perhaps today. Anne Clark-Stewart

These urls are for the Access to Information site, and I listed only the two that deal with census records. There is though other items of interest in their 20 yr. Anniversary Report. http://www.infocom.gc.ca/reports/section_display-e.asp?intSectionId=335 Privacy vs. Openness - Census Records .................. http://www.infocom.gc.ca/reports/section_display-e.asp?intSectionId=358 Census Records - Facilitating Research While Protecting Privacy .................... I still think 92 yrs, is long enough to wait. Juanita

Gordon Do you have any idea who is on the committee so we have an idea of how they will proceed with this, what changes they might make, etc? Beth

How odd you didn't know, when you posted the message! First Reading of Senate Public Bills Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) , seconded by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House. "Paul, Jeff: SEN" wrote: > Hey there everyone: > > I just wanted to let you all know that S-13 was introduced in the House of Commons yesterday where it passed first reading. This is a pro-forma stage where there is no debate. As soon as I know when it will come up for second reading, I will let you know. > > Jeff Paul > Policy Advisor > Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne > Ph: (613) 947-9744 > Cell: (613) 715-2965

Hi Gordon; Looks like I miss read it. Took this from the Chambers business site. It actually makes it appear that this is what it is, yet it isn't the full text of Bill S-13. Just hope they don't have some amendment up their sleeve we aren't aware of. ...................................... Census records Access, one hundred and twelve year time limit, S-13 ....................................... Here is the url for the site: http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/chamber.asp?Language=E for those who want to find out what is on the daily adjenda. Juanita MacDonald "Gordon A. Watts" wrote: > Hi Juanita. > > While on the "Orders of the Day" for today it shows Bill S-13, so far > (2:00 pm PST) it has not been discussed. With the time left for today I > do not know if it will be discussed or not.

References: 1 Forgot to send this to the list. References:1 Also is there an amendment being brought forward to limit access to 112 yrs? Juanita MacDonald Is 2nd reading of Bill S-13 scheduled for today? Looks that way to me. It was on the Chamber for June, 03, 2003 S-13 — May 28, 2003 — The Minister of Industry — Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act. Juanita MacDonald

Is 2nd reading of Bill S-13 scheduled for today? Looks that way to me. It was on the Chamber for June, 03, 2003 S-13 — May 28, 2003 — The Minister of Industry — Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act. Juanita MacDonald "Paul, Jeff: SEN" wrote: > Hey there everyone: > > I just wanted to let you all know that S-13 was introduced in the House of Commons yesterday where it passed first reading. This is a pro-forma stage where there is no debate. As soon as I know when it will come up for second reading, I will let you know. > > Jeff Paul > Policy Advisor > Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne > Ph: (613) 947-9744 > Cell: (613) 715-2965 > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > Download Post 1901 Census petitions at > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Hi Juanita. While on the "Orders of the Day" for today it shows Bill S-13, so far (2:00 pm PST) it has not been discussed. With the time left for today I do not know if it will be discussed or not. Something that I have not known before is the House Committee to which S-13 would be referred. That appears to be the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology. Anyone considering making a submission to the Committee should do so now. The address is: House Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology House of Commons 180, rue Wellington Street, Room / pièce 671 OTTAWA, Ontario, K1A 0A6 Attn: Jean-François Pagé, Clerk Telephone : (613) 947-1971 Fax : (613) 943-0307 EMail : [email protected] Considering the time frame I would suggest sending an email submission followed up with a printed version send by normal snail mail. To my knowledge there is no amendment being contemplated that would limit all access to 112 years. Happy Hunting Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "joseph macdonald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: [CCC] Is there an amendment to close the census to 112 yrs? Forgot to send this to the list. References:1 Also is there an amendment being brought forward to limit access to 112 yrs? Juanita MacDonald Is 2nd reading of Bill S-13 scheduled for today? Looks that way to me. It was on the Chamber for June, 03, 2003 S-13 - May 28, 2003 - The Minister of Industry - Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act. Juanita MacDonald ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net

Hi Grant, Jack Layton, is not a member of the House of Commons, so he would not be able to introduce amendments. He can only watch the proceedings in the House, till such time that he runs for and gets elected as an MP. For those interested in the proceedings on how things are done in the House of Commons you can check out this site. Introduction to Committees of the House of Commons http://www.parl.gc.ca/committees/english_intro.html Regards Juanita MacDonald GRANT BULL wrote: > Hi Joseph; > Write him and ask if he would be willing to introduce the > necessary amendments to the bill. > > Grant

To all -- The following site might be of interest to many Online Newspapers http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ I have many URLs saved -- gladly share, as I may have it. Go through the newspapers -- find the editor or a good columnist == the address will be listed somewhere and this depends on the individual newspaper. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 5/29/03

Thanks to all for info on the 1911 census for England and for the interesting website addresses. Eileen

Hello Listers, I am wondering if with summer recess almost here will Bill S-13 be dealt with as it should or will they just push it through left as the Senate wishes. Loretta

Loretta. The sitting days of the House of Commons would normally finish at the end of this week. According to the online Parliamentary Calendar there could be a two week extension. If the MPs do not hear from us S-13 will most certainly be passed as currently worded. The Bill may or may not be passed before the summer recess. If it is passed, we hope that it will be with amendments. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta Worden" <[email protected]> To: <CANADA-CENS[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: [CCC] Summer recess Hello Listers, I am wondering if with summer recess almost here will Bill S-13 be dealt with as it should or will they just push it through left as the Senate wishes. Loretta ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Download Post 1901 Census petitions at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Hi, The following is a copy of the letter from Jack Layton, Leader-New Democratic Party of Canada, concerning Bill S-13. Juanita MacDonald NDP Office of Jack Layton Leader of Canada's New Democratic Party May 26, 2003, Dear Ms MacDonald, Thank you for taking the time to register your views and provide me with the copies of your submissions to the Standing Senate Committee on Bill S-13, Amendments to the Statistics Act. My NDP caucus collegues and I are in full agreement with your position and in the past we have raised this issue in the House of Commons and wrote to the Minister of Industry about the changes to the census forms. We support the release of census information after 92 years, in the belief that most Canadians would accept this as a reasonable balance of the right to privacy and the collective interest in enhancing the study of history. Meanwhile I am taking the liberty of forwarding a copy of your correspondent to NDP Industry Critic, Brian Masse for his consideration. Again thank you for keeping me informed of your initiatives on this important issue. Sincerely, (signature) Jack Layton Leader - New Democratic Party of Canada cc. NDP Industry Critic - Brian Masse MP Jack Layton's e-mail address is Email/couriel: [email protected] Canada's New Democratic Party 1001 - 75 Albert, Ottawa, Ont. Canada K1P 5E7 Tel. (613) 236 - 3613 Fax: (613) 230 - 9950 Email: [email protected]

Hi Joseph; Write him and ask if he would be willing to introduce the necessary amendments to the bill. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "joseph macdonald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: [CCC] Fr: JACK LAYTON, Leader of NDP. > Hi, > > The following is a copy of the letter from Jack Layton, Leader-New > Democratic Party of Canada, concerning Bill S-13. > Juanita MacDonald > > NDP > Office of Jack Layton > Leader of Canada's New Democratic Party > > May 26, 2003, > > Dear Ms MacDonald, > > Thank you for taking the time to register your views and provide me with > the copies of your submissions to the Standing Senate Committee on Bill > S-13, Amendments to the Statistics Act. > > My NDP caucus collegues and I are in full agreement with your position > and in the past we have raised this issue in the House of Commons and > wrote to the Minister of Industry about the changes to the census forms. > We support the release of census information after 92 years, in the > belief that most Canadians would accept this as a reasonable balance of > the right to privacy and the collective interest in enhancing the study > of history. > > Meanwhile I am taking the liberty of forwarding a copy of your > correspondent to NDP Industry Critic, Brian Masse for his consideration. > Again thank you for keeping me informed of your initiatives on this > important issue. > > Sincerely, > (signature) > Jack Layton > Leader - New Democratic Party of Canada > cc. NDP Industry Critic - Brian Masse MP > > Jack Layton's e-mail address is > Email/couriel: [email protected] > > Canada's New Democratic Party > 1001 - 75 Albert, > Ottawa, Ont. > Canada K1P 5E7 > > Tel. (613) 236 - 3613 > Fax: (613) 230 - 9950 > Email: [email protected] > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > >

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