Hello Beth:- I got ahead of Gordon and checked out the areas represented by committee members. However, we must remember to send letters to the committee head, and then we could copy in members of the committee. As for the 93 associate members -- they likely picked up Liberal MPs from across the country -- there are certain ones that I hope are on the list. The address for the committee is as follows:- House Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology House of Commons 180, rue Wellington Street, Room / pièce 671 OTTAWA, Ontario K1A 0A6 Attn: Jean-François Pagé, Clerk EMail : [email protected] Telephone : (613) 947-1971 Fax : (613) 943-0307 My system is to check the scoreboard -- pick out the LIBERAL MPs, read what is on the personal message board re support, and contact all of them. Members of Canadian Alliance seem to be in a rut -- stuck in low gear -- possibly do not know the value of amendments. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [CCC] Post-1901 Census -- Committee for Bill S-13 Sorry Muriel (and others) I don't know what happened, all I did was hit reply, and then it went right off without waiting for me to type. I wonder if our National Statisician is trying to thwart our efforts by not letting us send e-mail to each other <VBG>. FYI, I just sent off a note to Dan McTeague. He is an MP from my area. Thanks Muriel for letting us know who we can center our attention on. Beth --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

Greetings All. Forwarded FYI. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallace J.McLean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: URGENT: Canadian Copyright Law retrograde "reforms" Mr. Watts: I humbly ask your assistance in mobilizing the Canadian genelogical and family and local historian community to oppose the retrograde copyright term extension currently before the House of Commons. As you will see in the text below, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. ================= Begin forwarded message ================= From: [email protected] (Wallace J.McLean) To: [email protected] Subject: URGENT: Canadian Copyright Law retrograde "reforms" Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:59:15 -0400 (EDT) To all friends of the public domain: This is an urgent appeal to any Canadians interested in the preservation and promotion of a timely transition of copyrighted works into the public domain. The heirs of Lucy Maud Montgomery, author of the Anne of Green Gables books, have successfully lobbied Sheila Copps, Minister of Heritage, for favourable changes to the Copyright Act in Canada. These changes concern the transition to the public domain of unpublished works. In this particular instance, the heirs are concerned about unpublished LMM works which would, without this amendment, come into the public domain at the end of this year. Lucy Maud Montgomery is playing Walt Disney to the Parliament of Canada. The amendments provide another 14 years of copyright protection to the previously unpublished works of authors who died between 1930 1949. Perversely, there is a disincentive to publish built into this provision: unpublished works will retain protection until 2017 UNLESS they are published sometime before December 31 2017, in which case they receive another 20 years of copyright protection. The longer a copyright owner of this class of works waits to publish, the longer they can enjoy copyright protection, potentially up until 2037. This will effectively give protection of between "Life+87 to Life+107 years" for a small number of holders of potentially very valuable copyrights, while restricting access to reams of historically important material that is of no commercial value to heirs - many of whom won't even realize they "own" the copyright to it. This measure will seriously impede the legitimate expectations of a timely transition to the public domain, and will inhibit the abilities of academics, genealogists, independent scholars and researchers, publishers, dramatists, broadcasters, and others, to carry out their work, and to create new economic and cultural value out of public domain works. The Copyright Act provisions of Bill C-36 are very bad law. However, this bill is being railroaded through Parliament. It could be through committee as early as next week, and then shepherded through the House and Senate before recess. The membership of the committee is available at (sorry for the wrapping URL): http://www.parl.gc.ca/InfoCom/CommitteeMember.asp?Language=E&Parliament=9&Joint=0&CommitteeID=262 Please write to your Member of Parliament, ESPECIALLY if he or she is a member of this committee(*), asking that the Copyright Act amendments extending the term of protection in unpublished works, be struck from C-36 as it stands. Specifically, ask that s. 21 of Bill C-36 be severed, and considered separately by Parliament at a later date. This will leave the rest of the bill, concerning the reorganization of the National Library and National Archives, intact. Any Canadians interested in organizing to protect the public domain are encouraged to email me at [email protected] (please plain text only without attachments). (*) Or if he or she is Minister Sheila Copps (Heritage) or Allan Rock (Industry) MORE INFO: Legislative Summary of C-36: http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/2/parlbus/chambus/house/bills/government/C-36/C-36_1/90219b-1E.html#9 Industry Canada Report on Copyright Protection in Unpublished Works: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/incrp-prda.nsf/vwGeneratedInterE/rp01107e.html Canadians' responses on copyright reform in Canada: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/incrp-prda.nsf/vwGeneratedInterE/h_rp01105e.html Please also see "Longer copyright called threat to researchers", Ian Jack, Financial Post, June 4 2003, p. FP4; "Ottawa champions copyright, or some of it", Ian Jack, Financial Post, May 12 2003, p. FP1. The Financial Post is the business section of the National Post. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CIRCULATE THIS EMAIL TO YOUR COLLEAGUES.

My sincere apologies to Dick and anyone else I have led on a wild goose chase through media outlets. This writing appeared on GlobalNews, click on Calgary. I was initially reading National Post, clicked over onto Global without paying attention. Freda Stewart Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard McElhoes" <[email protected]> To: "Freda" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Access to Information complaint > Do you have the URL for the National Post website? > Dick McElhoes > Winnipeg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freda" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:11 PM > Subject: [CCC] Access to Information complaint > > > > Reading an item on today's National Post website re John Reid, Privacy > Commissioner blasting the 'Conspiracy of Secrecy' in the government - very > interesting - I replied on the 'Sound-Off' segment, suggesting that > interested persons should get on or website to find out what problems we > were experiencing. Mr. Reid's comments are worth reading. > > Freda Stewart > > Calgary > > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > > Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at > > http://globalgazette.net > > > > >

Sorry Muriel (and others) I don't know what happened, all I did was hit reply, and then it went right off without waiting for me to type. I wonder if our National Statisician is trying to thwart our efforts by not letting us send e-mail to each other <VBG>. FYI, I just sent off a note to Dan McTeague. He is an MP from my area. Thanks Muriel for letting us know who we can center our attention on. Beth

Walt Lastewka [email protected] - ON (Gold) sent EMAIL just this evening Allan Rock Fax: (613) 947-4276 just this evening Letter by M.P.. mail bag to morrow. Lyle Vanclief hand delivered letter 2 days ago AS YET NO ANSWER TO ANY I think I need to give them time <lol> Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: George L. Trigg <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: [CCC] [CCC} Re: "History Centre" Carol (tweetybird), Did you send a copy of your response to the P.M.? If so, did he bother to respond, and if so, how? George A Yank with Canadian connections George L. Trigg Genealogical Researcher Specializing in middle and lower Hudson Valley and southern Ontario 18 Duzine Road New Paltz, NY 12561-1304 Phone: (845) 255-9488 FAX: (845) 255-9657 ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

To all:- I would like to read names of the 93 others on the committee -- but this is as Gordon Watts published the main list: CHAIRMAN Walt Lastewka [email protected] - ON (Gold) VICE CHAIRS Dan McTeague [email protected] - ON (Gold) James Rajotte [email protected] == AB (Gold) MEMBERS André Bachand [email protected] - PQ (Gold) Larry Bagnell [email protected] = NF (Gold) Paul Crete [email protected] - PQ (Gold) Brian Fitzpatrick [email protected] - SK - (Gold) Cheryl Gallant [email protected] - ON (Gold) Jocelyne Girard-Bujold [email protected] - PQ = (??) Serge Marcil [email protected] PQ (??) Brian Masse [email protected] ON (Gold) [email protected] Hon. Gilbert Normand [email protected] - PQ (F) Andy Savoy [email protected] - NB (Gold) Brent St.Denis [email protected] - ON (Gold) Paddy Torsney [email protected] - ON (Gold) Joseph Volpe [email protected] - ON (Gold) PLUS 93 Associate Members Remember, this is a government bill -- the reason why it seems various parts of Canada are not represented among the committee members. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm The symbols posted above are those on the scoreboards -- we sincerely hope their support is still in our favour. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

Rob I was picking apart the PM's speech to show that the census PAST & FUTURE can play an important part in the new centre. I was trying to use his own words to show that him and others that he is FOR the census release just by his own words (whether he realises it or not). I was NOT down grading the centre just stating that more people would be inclined to go there to view the census. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: Robber <[email protected]> To: Tweetybird <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] "History Centre" Hello "Tweetybird", The Canada History Centre and the release of the census are not really related issues for government. From the information at hand so far, it seems that the National Archives will be responsible for the new History Centre (it is also responsible for the Portrait Gallery) which will showcase documents in the Archives collection. The National Archives is also an ally in the fight to open access to the 1911 census and is the department which digitized the 1901 and 1906 censuses and made them available online. Continuing negative reaction to the History Centre may convince the government that heritage spending is controversial and generates bad publicity. That might mean less government money for the Archives, for the digitization of the census, etc, and other worthwhile archival projects. Not guaranteed, but just my thoughts on the matter. Cheers, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Tweetybird [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CCC] "History Centre" Article Published May 26, 2003 SOURCE: The website of the Prime Minister of Canada Canadian Prime Minister Announces "History Centre" REMARKS BY PRIME MINISTER JEAN CHRÉTIEN ANNOUNCING THE CANADA HISTORY CENTRE ALONG WITH MY COMMENTS Speech made May 26, 2003, Ottawa, Ontario PRIME MINISTER. I am pleased to welcome you to the Government Conference Centre. This Centre will soon become the site of one of the most important meetings in its history: one between Canadians and their shared past. Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created. P.M. We must find ways for young Canadians to learn what they share, to know what we have done, and to gain pride in their nation's accomplishments. MY RESPONSE: In order for the ordinary Canadian to be able to take pride in his/her family we must be able to have access to the census records of our ancestors. P.M. Our new Portrait Gallery opposite Parliament Hill will tell the stories through art of Aboriginal hunters on the plains, habitants making maple syrup, and Canadians celebrating their achievements. . MY RESPONSE: These treasures are our heritage about our families but only if we know about our families. My husband was placed in foster homes and it was not till he was past 65 that he discovered he was Metis. This was found out by a search of birth records that led to a search of census records for his grand parents. He now has found his roots. P.M. We must once again strengthen the ties that bind us together and the understanding of Canada that we share. Our past must be near us as we move into the future. The Centre will be an interactive meeting place where scholars, students, and visitors will discover how, as North Americans, we created this nation. MY RESPONSE: Yes I agree that people MIGHT go there. A lot more people will certainly make an effort to go if it means that they will be able to search our census records; PAST & FUTURE ONES P.M. Listen carefully and you can hear echoes in this magnificent building. You can hear the echoes of cheering crowds as soldiers returned home from the wars. Echoes of immigrants arriving from Pier 21 in Halifax, some to stay, some to open up the Canadian West. MY RESPONSE: Yes I am old enough to remember the WAR and the troop trains. The Red Cross & Salvation Army people meeting the trains. But you must realize that the census of 1911 is the last record of a lot of our fathers, sons, brothers uncles etc. P.M. The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their ideas, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history. MY RESPONSE: This will only show prominent people not the ordinary Canadian. This is where the census comes into play for the Genealogist to find their own family historian. P.M. We have succeeded in blazing a trail, not by playing rough and imposing our will, but rather by clearly demonstrating that cooperation, respect and accommodation are preferable to confrontation. MY RESPONSE: This can very easily be accomplished by removing clause #8 from bill S-13 P.M. That our values are the product of our heritage and history. They are the legacy of our shared past, reflecting the long dialogue and negotiations between Canada's French and British settlers, our Aboriginal peoples, and the generations of immigrants that followed. The new Canada History Centre will open a door to the great wealth of our history and our heritage, making these treasures available to the people of Canada and the rest of the world. Our young people will then have the opportunity to discover the great gifts they have inherited from past generations. MY RESPONSE: Yes they will discover the heritage they got from Canadian history but how about THEIR personal heritage from their ancestors? P.M. They will also have a powerful new resource to help them build on those gifts, and pass them on to those who will follow. MY RESPONSE: I understand this will cost the taxpayer 90 million dollars. The people of Canada will not be to happy about this expense. The new "museum" would be much easier to accept if we can visit this centre to view our past census as well as all the rest to follow. Thank you very much Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03 ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/2003

The following article became "disjointed" during posting, so offered to do this for Carol -- she is busy with more letters -- to others.= Muriel M. Davidson ==================== Article Published May 26, 2003 SOURCE: The website of the Prime Minister of Canada Canadian Prime Minister Announces "History Centre" REMARKS BY PRIME MINISTER JEAN CHRÉTIEN ANNOUNCING THE CANADA HISTORY CENTRE [ ALONG WITH MY COMMENTS] Speech made May 26, 2003, Ottawa, Ontario PRIME MINISTER. I am pleased to welcome you to the Government Conference Centre. This Centre will soon become the site of one of the most important meetings in its history: one between Canadians and their shared past. Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created. P.M. We must find ways for young Canadians to learn what they share, to know what we have done, and to gain pride in their nation's accomplishments. MY RESPONSE: In order for the ordinary Canadian to be able to take pride in his/her family we must be able to have access to the census records of our ancestors. P.M. Our new Portrait Gallery opposite Parliament Hill will tell the stories through art of Aboriginal hunters on the plains, habitants making maple syrup, and Canadians celebrating their achievements. . MY RESPONSE: These treasures are our heritage about our families but only if we know about our families. My husband was placed in foster homes and it was not till he was past 65 that he discovered he was Métis. This was found out by a search of birth records that led to a search of census records for his grand parents. He now has found his roots. P.M. We must once again strengthen the ties that bind us together and the understanding of Canada that we share. Our past must be near us as we move into the future. The Centre will be an interactive meeting place where scholars, students, and visitors will discover how, as North Americans, we created this nation. MY RESPONSE: Yes I agree that people MIGHT go there. A lot more people will certainly make an effort to go if it means that they will be able to search our census records; PAST & FUTURE ONES P.M. Listen carefully and you can hear echoes in this magnificent building. You can hear the echoes of cheering crowds as soldiers returned home from the wars. Echoes of immigrants arriving from Pier 21 in Halifax, some to stay, some to open up the Canadian West. MY RESPONSE: Yes I am old enough to remember the WAR and the troop trains. The Red Cross & Salvation Army people meeting the trains. But you must realize that the census of 1911 is the last record of a lot of our fathers, sons, brothers uncles etc. P.M. The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their ideas, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history. MY RESPONSE: This will only show prominent people not the ordinary Canadian. This is where the census comes into play for the Genealogist to find their own family historian. P.M. We have succeeded in blazing a trail, not by playing rough and imposing our will, but rather by clearly demonstrating that cooperation, respect and accommodation are preferable to confrontation. MY RESPONSE: This can very easily be accomplished by removing clause #8 from bill S-13 P.M. That our values are the product of our heritage and history. They are the legacy of our shared past, reflecting the long dialogue and negotiations between Canada's French and British settlers, our Aboriginal peoples, and the generations of immigrants that followed. The new Canada History Centre will open a door to the great wealth of our history and our heritage, making these treasures available to the people of Canada and the rest of the world. Our young people will then have the opportunity to discover the great gifts they have inherited from past generations. MY RESPONSE: Yes they will discover the heritage they got from Canadian history but how about THEIR personal heritage from their ancestors? P.M. They will also have a powerful new resource to help them build on those gifts, and pass them on to those who will follow. MY RESPONSE: I understand this will cost the taxpayer 90 million dollars. The people of Canada will not be too happy about this expense. The new "museum" would be much easier to accept if we can visit this centre to view our past census as well as all the rest to follow. Thank you very much Carol RUSSELL 28 Auburn Street BELLEVILLE, ONT. K8P 2N2 Home Phone 1-613 - 962 9497 Email [email protected] Home page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/ Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

Carol (tweetybird), Did you send a copy of your response to the P.M.? If so, did he bother to respond, and if so, how? George A Yank with Canadian connections George L. Trigg Genealogical Researcher Specializing in middle and lower Hudson Valley and southern Ontario 18 Duzine Road New Paltz, NY 12561-1304 Phone: (845) 255-9488 FAX: (845) 255-9657

Article Published May 26, 2003 SOURCE: The website of the Prime Minister of Canada Canadian Prime Minister Announces "History Centre" REMARKS BY PRIME MINISTER JEAN CHRÉTIEN ANNOUNCING THE CANADA HISTORY CENTRE ALONG WITH MY COMMENTS Speech made May 26, 2003, Ottawa, Ontario PRIME MINISTER. I am pleased to welcome you to the Government Conference Centre. This Centre will soon become the site of one of the most important meetings in its history: one between Canadians and their shared past. Together Canadians have built a nation that is strong, prosperous and free. We must know the builders of our nation to sustain what their mind and hearts, their muscles and their blood, have created. P.M. We must find ways for young Canadians to learn what they share, to know what we have done, and to gain pride in their nation's accomplishments. MY RESPONSE: In order for the ordinary Canadian to be able to take pride in his/her family we must be able to have access to the census records of our ancestors. P.M. Our new Portrait Gallery opposite Parliament Hill will tell the stories through art of Aboriginal hunters on the plains, habitants making maple syrup, and Canadians celebrating their achievements. . MY RESPONSE: These treasures are our heritage about our families but only if we know about our families. My husband was placed in foster homes and it was not till he was past 65 that he discovered he was Metis. This was found out by a search of birth records that led to a search of census records for his grand parents. He now has found his roots. P.M. We must once again strengthen the ties that bind us together and the understanding of Canada that we share. Our past must be near us as we move into the future. The Centre will be an interactive meeting place where scholars, students, and visitors will discover how, as North Americans, we created this nation. MY RESPONSE: Yes I agree that people MIGHT go there. A lot more people will certainly make an effort to go if it means that they will be able to search our census records; PAST & FUTURE ONES P.M. Listen carefully and you can hear echoes in this magnificent building. You can hear the echoes of cheering crowds as soldiers returned home from the wars. Echoes of immigrants arriving from Pier 21 in Halifax, some to stay, some to open up the Canadian West. MY RESPONSE: Yes I am old enough to remember the WAR and the troop trains. The Red Cross & Salvation Army people meeting the trains. But you must realize that the census of 1911 is the last record of a lot of our fathers, sons, brothers uncles etc. P.M. The Canada History Centre will bring to life the memories of men and women who, through their ideas, their vision and their actions, inscribed their names on the rolls of our history. MY RESPONSE: This will only show prominent people not the ordinary Canadian. This is where the census comes into play for the Genealogist to find their own family historian. P.M. We have succeeded in blazing a trail, not by playing rough and imposing our will, but rather by clearly demonstrating that cooperation, respect and accommodation are preferable to confrontation. MY RESPONSE: This can very easily be accomplished by removing clause #8 from bill S-13 P.M. That our values are the product of our heritage and history. They are the legacy of our shared past, reflecting the long dialogue and negotiations between Canada's French and British settlers, our Aboriginal peoples, and the generations of immigrants that followed. The new Canada History Centre will open a door to the great wealth of our history and our heritage, making these treasures available to the people of Canada and the rest of the world. Our young people will then have the opportunity to discover the great gifts they have inherited from past generations. MY RESPONSE: Yes they will discover the heritage they got from Canadian history but how about THEIR personal heritage from their ancestors? P.M. They will also have a powerful new resource to help them build on those gifts, and pass them on to those who will follow. MY RESPONSE: I understand this will cost the taxpayer 90 million dollars. The people of Canada will not be to happy about this expense. The new "museum" would be much easier to accept if we can visit this centre to view our past census as well as all the rest to follow. Thank you very much Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

Another letter today. Seems the Liberal's advisors reply for the Minister's. Oh well, Minister of Industry is going to get a lot of copies of my letters. Maybe we should take up a collection and buy him a new file cabinet, he must need one by now. ;o) Juanita June 02, 2003 Dear Ms MacDonald: Thank you for your letter of April 17, 2003 addressed to the Honourable John Manley, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, regarding Bill S-23. Please be assured that Minister Manley appreciates receiving your views. However, as the matter you have raised falls under the purview of the Honourable Allan Rock, Minister of Industry and Minister responsible for Statistics Canada, I have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of your correspondence to his office for his consideration. Once again, thank you for taking the time to share your views with the Deputy Prime Minister. Yours truly (signature) John Butler Special Advisor. cc. Office of the Honourable Allan Rock, P.C., M.P.

Reading an item on today's National Post website re John Reid, Privacy Commissioner blasting the 'Conspiracy of Secrecy' in the government - very interesting - I replied on the 'Sound-Off' segment, suggesting that interested persons should get on or website to find out what problems we were experiencing. Mr. Reid's comments are worth reading. Freda Stewart Calgary

>Hello Just thought I would let you know that the Privacy Commissioner just lost $400,000. of his budget. It may slow him down a bit. They used it for the gun control. Bonnie

Greetings All. First debate in the House of Commons on second reading of Bill S-13 - an Act to amend the Statistics Act is on the House schedule for today (Thursday). It has also been on the schedule the past two days but has not yet made it.. Time will tell if it will make it today. Should it happen, debate should start some time after 3:00 PM Ottawa time. It will be televised on CPAC. There is at least one Bill ahead of it on the schedule. Time limits for debate have been set as follows: S-13 - The Minister of Industry - An Act to amend the Statistics Act - Second reading (first time debated) Length of speeches, pursuant to Standing Order 74: The Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition - unlimited time. First three Members - 40 minutes maximum. All other Members - During the 5 hours of debate following the first three Members - 20 minutes maximum and speeches are subject to a 10-minute question and comment period. After the period of debate referred to above - 10 minutes maximum. It is expected that Bill S-13 will be referred to the House Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology. Those considering making a submission to the Committee should be preparing to do so now. Addressing information is as follows: House Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology House of Commons 180, rue Wellington Street, Room / pièce 671 OTTAWA, Ontario K1A 0A6 Attn: Jean-François Pagé, Clerk EMail : [email protected] Telephone : (613) 947-1971 Fax : (613) 943-0307 Makeup of the Committee is as follows" CHAIR Walt Lastewka [email protected] VICE-CHAIRS Dan McTeague [email protected] James Rajotte [email protected] MEMBERS André Bachand [email protected] Larry Bagnell [email protected] Paul Crête [email protected] Brian Fitzpatrick [email protected] Cheryl Gallant [email protected] Jocelyne Girard-Bujold [email protected] Serge Marcil [email protected] Brian Masse [email protected] or [email protected] Hon. Gilbert Normand [email protected] Andy Savoy [email protected] Brent St. Denis [email protected] Paddy Torsney [email protected] Joseph Volpe [email protected] There are 93 Associate Members which I will not list here. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Greetings again to the list: Once again, S-13 is on the order of business for this afternoon. Again, it sits right behind the debate on C-15. We are faced with the same situation today as we were yesterday. If we get through C-15 before 5:30 debate will start on S-13. If not, it will be put off to another day. You can tune into CPAC starting at 3pm Eastern time to follow the progress. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: (613) 947-9744 Cell: (613) 715-2965

Thursday, June 5, 2003 (No. 112) Government Bills (Senate) S-13 — May 28, 2003 — The Minister of Industry — Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act. ........... It will eventually get read. Juanita

Thursday, June 5, 2003 (No. 112) Government Bills (Senate) S-13 - May 28, 2003 - The Minister of Industry - Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Statistics Act. ........... It will eventually get read. Juanita =================== To all:- Yes, the Members of Parliament eventually get around to the many and various bills and motions. It is hopeful there will be debate in the Second Reading, and Bill S-13 be forwarded to the Committee stage. Here there will more debate -- with a Report brought back to the House of Commons before Third Reading. Sincerely hope there are sufficient days~ Gordon Watts has provided the address where one can send letters to the committee to which this bill will be referred. Keep smiling -- and writing to your Members of Parliament!1 Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03

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The House suspended debate on Bill C-15 before getting to Bill S-13, then went on to Private Members' Bills (C-205 was one of these) so it seems S-13 will shifted forward to tomorrow. Sally

Hello again folks: It is now 5:30 and the House of Commons has moved on to private member's business. The opposition decided that they wanted to delay bill C-15 amendments to the Lobbyist Registration Act. As a result Bill Casey from Nova Scotia talked out all of the time for government business today. As soon as S-13 come back to the schedule for a sitting day I will let you know. I will check the website each morning. One thing you should know is that days are set aside far in advance for various bills. There are also bill designated for opposition to choose the issues, as well as "supply" days that are used to examine the government's finances. We may not get back on to the schedule for some time. We will see. As I said, I will keep you posted. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: (613) 947-9744 Cell: (613) 715-2965