Hello Freda:- To the best of my knowledge, the gentleman would have qualified for meals in the Parliamentary restaurants, but possibly wanted something more than a "working lunch" as many Members of Parliament would do. Guests may also be taken to either the MP or Senate restaurants, by invitation of the Member of Parliament or Senator. I have copied in Reg Alcock, MP, head of the all-party committee -- very possibly your suggestion of a "cap" or top amount might be one of their suggestions -- at least discussed. Many thanks for the reply -- the meals certainly were expensive -- hope the service was great! Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Brampton, ON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- This Printed List Should Be Saved Muriel - This is indeed living HOTH at our expense. He is averaging $45.00 per person per lunch. I think in the review of the whole system there needs to be a cap put on everyday expenses like this. How many days in the month does one need to treat in order to get your point across. It seems to be a good excuse for an exercise in excess. I am not familiar with these restaurants, and no doubt they are excellent, but surely this kind of spending should be considered off limits for daily use. Did Mr. R. not qualify to use the Parliamentary restaurants - from what I have read they serve up excellence at a much lower price than most of us could afford. It would be very interesting to see how many others would pass the scrutiny for this sort of overspending. Freda Stewart Calgary =================== ----------Original Memo--------- If you are jingling change in your pockets, turn on the printer and print pages 1-4 of the following -- YOUR temperature will rise -- even though the weather has cooled http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/radwanski_list/ The four pages are a SHOCKER -- should never happen again -- or be allowed to happen. Muriel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03

I have been following the "Mr. Radwanski" ( I use the term "Mr. with tongue in cheek) saga. It has angered me greatly, as well, as many others, I am sure. I am sitting here giggling Muriel, because I am wondering if I needed to see the itemized list! I was taking deep breaths while reading, to prevent myself from hyper-ventilating! On his 5 day trip to London, UK and Ireland, he spent just around $2,000.00 less than what the Govt. gives my husband for a YEAR! How does this man have the gall to say he has done nothing wrong! It sets me to wondering what his idea of "right" is. I hope that he is ordered to pay back a huge amount of what he has spent, + the debt that was forgiven by the Revenue Dept. AND ON TOP OF IT ALL, I HOPE THAT THE 1911 CENSUS IS RELEASED TO US AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE, WITH NO RESTRICTIONS! I will continue reading the saga of this obnoxious man...waiting for the hammer to fall! Betty

Does he not have a home in Toronto as well as Ottawa.? (In Toronto he can darn well sleep in his own bed and not some high priced Hotel ) This is double dipping if he is making the speeches. The Gov't pays his wages and he is also charging US for his time to give the speech. Then if he is being paid to give speech by whom ever ??? Trip Toronto, Ont. - Speeches N.A. April 5-9, 2001 $1,336.65 Trip Toronto, Ont. - Speech N.A. May 29, 2001 $1,139.82 Trip Toronto, Ont. - Ontario Privacy Commissioner N.A. Jan. 20-21, 2003 $1,356.85 Trip Toronto, Ont. - Speech at Labour Arbitration Conference N.A. Nov. 1-4, 2001 $1,409.81 Trip Toronto, Ont. - Speech at privacy conference N.A. Dec. 3-4, 2001 $1,338.22 AND it goes on & on & on just like the battery bunny. What court case & if he is ordered to attend does not the other person pay expenses? Trip Vancouver & Kelowna, B.C. - Court case appearance N.A. March 10-15, 2003 $7,348.00 And what is this??? Trip N.A N.A. June 4-6, 2001 $2,026 Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03

The one I love most is the "Kinki" club <lol> Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Griston <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:45 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- This Printed List Should Be Saved hmm...about a thou per diem for trips outside of ottawa, must have been a pretty fancy hotel room..except do ya think he was billetted in toronto aug 15-19, 2002..or did he just forget the company credit card for that trip? i do know where not to go for lunch in ottawa..too expensive and i don't care how good the food/service is, nor the ambiance..30 to 40+ per person is ridiculous..unless they were having a liquid lunch.. i mean, at our local pub, a double scotch neat, is 13 bucks a glass. i know bc politicians have been accused have putting scotch on their cornflakes..gotta wonder if radwanski used it his beef dip jus. gosh, i'd love to see fellegi's expense account. anyone know how many business trips/meetings he and radwanski had together..was there any double billing..did they fight over who was going to pick up the tab, old boy. cya roz On Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:51 AM, Muriel M. Davidson [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > If you are jingling change in your pockets, turn > on the printer and print pages 1-4 of the following -- > YOUR temperature will rise -- even though the weather > has cooled > > http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/radwanski_list/ > > The four pages are a SHOCKER -- should never happen > again -- or be allowed to happen. > > Muriel > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03 > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03

FYI Here in the State of Idaho we do have caps on meals. In town it is a smaller amount (entertainment). Out of town the limit is little higher. AND they have to produce the receipts! Meals, hotel, car expenses, everything has to have proof or they do not get reimbursed. Our former mayor, YEA, got fired because he thought he could beat the system, a big scandal for several city employees. Recalls do work. We had over 3,000 extra signatures needed to recall him. Grassroots work when people get mad enough to do something. Barbara Boise, Idaho USA -----Original Message----- From: Freda [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- This Printed List Should Be Saved Muriel - This is indeed living HOTH at our expense. He is averaging $45.00 per person per lunch. I think in the review of the whole system there needs to be a cap put on everyday expenses like this. How many days in the month does one need to treat in order to get your point across. It seems to be a good excuse for an exercise in excess. I am not familiar with these restaurants, and no doubt they are excellent, but surely this kind of spending should be considered off limits for daily use. Did Mr. R. not qualify to use the Parliamentary restaurants - from what I have read they serve up excellence at a much lower price than most of us could afford. It would be very interesting to see how many others would pass the scrutiny for this sort of overspending. Freda Stewart Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- This Printed List Should Be Saved > If you are jingling change in your pockets, turn > on the printer and print pages 1-4 of the following -- > YOUR temperature will rise -- even though the weather > has cooled > > http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/radwanski_list/ > > The four pages are a SHOCKER -- should never happen > again -- or be allowed to happen. > > Muriel > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03 > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

If you are jingling change in your pockets, turn on the printer and print pages 1-4 of the following -- YOUR temperature will rise -- even though the weather has cooled http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/radwanski_list/ The four pages are a SHOCKER -- should never happen again -- or be allowed to happen. Muriel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03

http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/robinson.html http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoSun/donato.html http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoSun/editorial.html http://www.canoe.com/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2003/06/28/121666.html http://www.canoe.com/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2003/06/28/121665.html "Final report recommends Radwanski tax deal be part of sweeping probe" http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.asp?id=2F8B452B-ED44-4B6E-AF7A-0D408A331DAC MPs want answer on watchdog http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1056751810520&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154 There was another editorial cartoon in my Brampton Guardian, depicting Radwanski with his OWN "walk of fame" stone -- I will leave it to readers imagination the picture on the stone. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03

Muriel - This is indeed living HOTH at our expense. He is averaging $45.00 per person per lunch. I think in the review of the whole system there needs to be a cap put on everyday expenses like this. How many days in the month does one need to treat in order to get your point across. It seems to be a good excuse for an exercise in excess. I am not familiar with these restaurants, and no doubt they are excellent, but surely this kind of spending should be considered off limits for daily use. Did Mr. R. not qualify to use the Parliamentary restaurants - from what I have read they serve up excellence at a much lower price than most of us could afford. It would be very interesting to see how many others would pass the scrutiny for this sort of overspending. Freda Stewart Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- This Printed List Should Be Saved > If you are jingling change in your pockets, turn > on the printer and print pages 1-4 of the following -- > YOUR temperature will rise -- even though the weather > has cooled > > http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/radwanski_list/ > > The four pages are a SHOCKER -- should never happen > again -- or be allowed to happen. > > Muriel > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03 > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > >

hmm...about a thou per diem for trips outside of ottawa, must have been a pretty fancy hotel room..except do ya think he was billetted in toronto aug 15-19, 2002..or did he just forget the company credit card for that trip? i do know where not to go for lunch in ottawa..too expensive and i don't care how good the food/service is, nor the ambiance..30 to 40+ per person is ridiculous..unless they were having a liquid lunch.. i mean, at our local pub, a double scotch neat, is 13 bucks a glass. i know bc politicians have been accused have putting scotch on their cornflakes..gotta wonder if radwanski used it his beef dip jus. gosh, i'd love to see fellegi's expense account. anyone know how many business trips/meetings he and radwanski had together..was there any double billing..did they fight over who was going to pick up the tab, old boy. cya roz On Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:51 AM, Muriel M. Davidson [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > If you are jingling change in your pockets, turn > on the printer and print pages 1-4 of the following -- > YOUR temperature will rise -- even though the weather > has cooled > > http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/radwanski_list/ > > The four pages are a SHOCKER -- should never happen > again -- or be allowed to happen. > > Muriel > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03 > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > [email protected] that contains > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. >

Canada Day is July 1 -- and we thank Juanita MacDonald for the following. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] =============== CANADA by Nathaniel Benson I have seen her in the quiet of the evening in the fields, I have sensed her in the dusk-time that the star-decked prairie yields. She has poised on purple mountains when my lonely step drew near, And the North's green fires at midnight were her altar-lights austere. Her voice is in the thunder of the raptured Falls of Bow, In the memory of Daulac dying greatly long ago. Her song is in the music of awakened April rills, She whose spirit walked with Lampman on his silent wooded hills. In the ancient lonely churchyards of the pioneers asleep. She broods in voiceless twilight where eternal memories creep. Where the dark heroic headlands stand the wintry ocean's roar, She sits thinking of the seamen who will come to port no more. On the red earth of the vinelands, through the orchards in the spring She walks and feels in heart and hand her beauty's blossoming, - And again she wanders weeping beneath an alien sky Where her many sons are sleeping and her young lost legions lie. She is one with all our laughter, with our wonder and our pain, Living everywhere triumphant, in the heart and soul and brain. She our mother, we who bore her, she the daughter yet to be Who walks these mortal roads of death to immortality. Indivisible and lovely, she the maiden of our thought, Is an empress robed in beauty from our deepest dreaming wrought, She whose centuries are storied, whose young banners far outborne Are the heralds of a splendour in the ages yet unborn. ............................................................................ . It is one of my favourite poems, and published about 1929/30. Surely we too can think of our descendants as the 'splendour in the ages yet unborn.' We owe it to them to protect the HERITAGE THAT WILL BE THEIRS and their right to access it if they so choose one day in the future. Remember those 'in ages yet unborn' can not speak for themselves but we can do it for them. Juanita MacDonald --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03

I would like to have this article posted on one of my pages, but cannot without permission of the writer. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm ====================== WE ARE THE STORY TELLERS Why Are We Doing All This Research? We are the chosen. In each family there is one called to find the ancestors. To put flesh on their bones, and make them live again, to tell the family story and to feel that somehow they know and approve. Doing genealogy is not a cold gathering of facts, but, instead, breathing life into all who have gone before. We are the story tellers of the tribe. All tribes have one. We have been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry out to us. Tell our story. So, we do. Finding them, we find ourselves. How many graves have I stood before and cried? I have lost count. How many times have I told the ancestors, "You have a wonderful family; you would be proud of us." How many times have I walked up to a grave and felt there was love there for me? I cannot say. It goes beyond just documenting facts. It goes to seeing a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds and indifference and saying, "I can't let this happen". These are bones of my bone and flesh of my flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It goes to pride in what our ancestors were able to accomplish. How they contributed to what we are today. It goes to respecting their hardship and losses, their never giving in or giving up, their resoluteness to go on and build a life for their families. It goes to pride that fathers fought and died to make and keep us a nation. It goes to a deep understanding that they did it for us. With equal pride and love that our mothers struggle to give us birth. Without them we would not exist, and so we love each one, as far back as we can reach. That we might be born who we are. That we might remember them. So we do. We are they, and they are the sum of who we are. That we might remember them.. So we do. We are they, and they are the sum of who we are. So, as a scribe called, with love and care, I tell the story of my family. In the next generation, another will answer the call and take my place in the long line of family storytellers. That is why I do my family genealogy, and this is what calls those young and old to step up and restore the memory, and greet those whom we had never know before. ================== I added my personal comments:- {A reply to a query] I presume you are referring to my reply re "We are the story tellers" -- YES, we must be that -- just in case census records are never released in full. Many feel we should be ashamed our relatives were in "poor houses" -- but these were the equivalent of the day of our present nursing homes -- not because they were "short of cash" -- but needed nursing care. [My grandfather had records of monies paid for his uncle's care at Hillsview Acres, a new name for the former Queens County Poor Farm or County Home, located at Middlefield, Nova Scotia] Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03

Let us hope that bill S-13 sits in a back corner, and is completely forgotten. There is no reason to push for it to be brought up, because it obviously is NOT a high priority with the government. Let it die. Many, many bills die in Parliament, and I hope this is one of them. There will be a new PM in the spring. Hopefully, one that is not so arrogant, and is slightly in touch with the desires of the people of Canada. That's when to tackle the issue of opening the 1921 and later censuses! The courts will take care of the earlier ones, we'll get them without any restrictions if S-13 is not enacted. I personally don't know anyone that wants to see this bill enacted in ANY form. Better to start over, with reasonable people behind it.

To all:- Now that Radwanski has been replaced, we will let the special committee of the House of Committee deal with him. I have no doubt this recent revelation has made many devout party members wonder HOW MANY others have followed in the footsteps of Radwanski -- these are being found by MPs. LET'S GET BACK TO BUSINESS! Due mainly to the "UNFINDABLE LAW" that was found by Radwanski, we have endured several years of extra work, the Expert Panel, Town Hall meetings, defeated bills, too many $$$$ spent on unnecessary prolonged non-release. These should be added on to the high financing of our former privacy commissioner. Access to Information forms is our present way -- WE are able to use these, each costs $5.00, the sender must be Canadian, have a Canadian address -- but our researchers to the south may ask their Canadian relatives to send one on his/her behalf. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/1911ati.htm When you read the "preamble" of the article, click on THIS LINK, go to File, click on Save. [My ATI is saved with a .doc extension] Gordon Watts has provided a suitable statement which may be either Copied and Pasted or typed -- there is ample room -- I have tested this personally [adjust type size accordingly]. Send to address listed at above URL. I am hopeful EVERY member, or at least BRANCH of the Ontario Genealogical Society will send in a form. This evening I will ask Lise Drapeau to translate a memo suitable for the mail lists in Quebec, to Victor Luce for his French language lists, and several in Nova Scotia -- will anyone translate the memo in Gaelic? When we send the memo, we keep a copy - the date is important. After 30 days, we progress to Step #2 -- to John Reid -- but let Gordon Watts know when you progress to this step. Other than that, Lois Sparling has Beatty#2 et al, the second lawsuit for release of the 1911 census -- we are only able to follow these steps for records that should have been released, and the 1911 should have been made available June 1, 2003. Let's "flood the joint" -- office -- with pieces of paper -- our ATIs. When one is mailed, send a brief note to me or to the CCC list. Roll up your sleeves and get to work! Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03

To all:- An article in The Hill Times, Ottawa, entitled Summer Recess, listed the EIGHT bills Government House Leader Don Boudria thought were of a "priority" rating. These included Campaign Finance Bill C-24, the Human Reproduction Bill C-13, the Public Safety Bill C-17, the Public Service Reform Bill C-25, the Budget 2003 Bill C-28, the RCMP Bill C-31, the Ethics Bill C-34, plus the Supply Bill on the 2003-2004 main estimates. Mr. Boudria made it clear there was a great deal to do before the House closed for the summer on June 20th. However, the Members of Parliament escaped Ottawa like a group of school-children on Friday, June 13. It does give them more time to spend with constituents (if they do), and also time for constituents and would-be voters to discuss various questions -- elections are coming! Among the above listed PRIORITY bills, where was Bill S-13? This was a government bill, sponsored by invitation of the government. The release date for the 1911 census was June 1, 2003 -- NO CENSUS RELEASED. We know Mr. Boudria takes orders from the PMO - possibly if he had his choice, Bill S-13 might have been given priority rating, had Second Reading and passed to Committee. Hopefully Beatty #2, the lawsuit, might give us the census. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/19/03

Greetings All. Forwarded for your information. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallace J.McLean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: C-36 update This is an updated version of my action alert on the copyright extension provisions of Bill C-36, provisions that are going to restrict unfettered access to thousands of historical documents that would otherwise be open to republication, digitization, or other creative and adaptive reuse after this year. So far the response that I'm aware of from the family history community has been disappointing on this file. I hope I can chalk it up to summer, but this Bill is going to back before the House of Commons as early as September 15th. There won't be a lot of time to organize opposition, unless members of the research community start speaking out, and soon. Thanks again for disseminating an earlier version of this. Anyone who wishes to help protect the public's right to the public domain should feel free to contact me directly. C-36 THREATENS FAMILY HISTORY IN CANADA Bill C-36 is going to be as detrimental to the study of family history in Canada as the closure of the 1901 census. Until 1998, the Copyright Act provided for perpetual copyright protection in unpublished works of deceased authors. (How they figured that would work, no one knows.) In 1998 the rule was changed, and the usual "life+50" rule would apply to posthumously still unpublished works. However, a sunset clause was provided. Obviously, many people had been dead for more than 50 years, with unpublished "works" left behind. The term "works" includes almost anything written, letters, documents, reports, etc., not just unpublished book manuscripts. But their heirs, assigns, and literary agents were given another five years of protection -- i.e. to year-end this year -- to publish that material. If they published, they would obtain further term of copyright protection, and the further revenue from sales of that work. Otherwise the unpublished materials would start coming into the public domain on January 1, 2003 -- as it properly should, to ensure the promotion and dissemination of Canada's own documentary heritage. For persons who died after 1948, their unpublished material will not become public domain until 2049, up to a century after their death, and in many cases two centuries or more after the events described in many archival letters or documents. Problem: (if you're the heirs of Lucy Maud Montgomery). You've been sitting on her unpublished letters and manuscripts for over half a century, and for another five years of grace since the 1998 Copyright Act amendments. Under those amendments, they're about to become common property in the public domain. What do you do? You call Sheila Copps, she puts a rider in Bill C-36, which is an unrelated act to reorganize the National Library and National Archives, amending the Copyright Act... yet again. This is very good for the descendants of Anne of Green Grables. All of LMM's published works are already in the public domain (life+50 rule). However, the heirs want to milk the LMM cash cow of unpublished manuscripts for a while longer yet. So, Sheila Copps is giving them 14 more years of copyright protection (up to 2018 if the work is still unpublished), and ANOTHER 20 of copyright protection for the work from the time it is published. This applies to the unpublished "works" of all "authors" who died from 1930 to 1949 inclusive. Upshot? Depending on when you died, "you" may will "enjoy" CR Protection in your unpublished works for anywhere from 67 to 107 years after you died. Sweet deal, if you are the heir, assigns, or literary agents of one of a handful of people who left MSS or letters, documents, or other materials behind, unpublished, commercially valuable, from January 1930 to December 1949; AND if you had the prescience to dispose of your copyright in your will. Downshot? The "works" of "authors" who died in this period will now have to be restricted by libraries and archives for another 14 years, or until the expiration of the next period that LMM's heirs con the government into giving them, whichever comes last. And you can bet this won't be the last time a special interest comes slithering to Parliament for a copyright term extension. Since "work" has a broad definition, family historians, scholars, editors, publishers, translators, dramatists, screenwriters, researchers, archivists, librarians, novelists, historians, genealogists -- everyone who uses archives in Canada -- are about to lose access to millions of pages of 19th and early 20th-century historical material, which otherwise would enter the public domain. Archives and libraries will not be able to authorize the publication of any such material. Why not? Because in theory, someone, somewhere, will continue to hold the copyright without even knowing about it. These will often be the same people who cared so little for the material that they donated it to an archives, or cared so much about its preservation for posterity and the use by modern-day researchers, that they donated it to an archives. Up to 87 years after the death of the writer of a letter, diary, or other document, the copyright trail will be cold. Given time, intestacy, and the management of archives and special collections, there is going to be no practical way of tracing copyright ownership in all but a minute fraction of "works", mainly by a very few famous people. Even tracing ownership of copyright in works authored by people who died much more recently is often very difficult -- just check the copyright page of many textbooks for proof. But the law will still have to be applied to all "works" by "authors" who died during this period. And their material will still be under copyright protection long after their descendents, if they had any, have forgotten about it, and will be denied to anyone who wants to reproduce it, EVEN IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE DESCENDANTS. The rights hardliniers in the "artistic community" say it's all about authors' fair reward, but you are equally dead 2 minutes, 50 years, and 70 years after you die. No one writes a book, poem, song, or story, hoping to amortize it not only for the period of their life, but for 50 years after they're dead! And no one wrote an archival letter giving account of life on the Prairies in the 1890s, or describing their passage across the Atlantic to Newfoundland in the 1870s, hoping to get paid. The material was written without hope of commercial benefit, and has been preserved by accident or design so that future generations could make use of it in new ways. C-36 WILL TAKE THIS LIBERTY AWAY. The LMM Copyright Extension Act, aka Bill C-36, is bad law. Note especially: EVERY SINGLE "AUTHOR" AFFECTED BY BILL C-36 IS ALREADY DEAD. This provision isn't going to induce them to write another word, but it will make the people who are lucky enough to share their gene pool a little bit richer, IF they wrote something commercially valuable sometime before 1949. Otherwise, all this is going to do is keep the rest of us from publishing our family or community histories, or turning our MA thesis into a regional press book, putting 19th and early 20th century correspondence on our family or local history web sites, or republishing archival documents, or adapting, dramatizing, or anthologizing millions of pages of historically and academically valuable material whose creators are dead and whose copyright owners are completely untraceable. It will put copyright restrictions on letters, reports, documents, manuscripts, and other previously unpublished materials for up to 107 years after the death of their creator, and even longer after their creation. This will be so even though the general rule for copyright protection is life plus 50 years. The following is a frightening hypothetical example. IT COULD BE REAL. Mr. Smith was born in 1838. In 1860, as a clerk in the Nova Scotia legislature, he kept a diary describing details of the lives of important 19th-century Nova Scotia public figures, details available nowhere else. Mr. Smith died in 1930. Under Bill C-36, this diary will be under copyright protection until AT LEAST 2018... 157 years after it was written and 87 years after the author's death. Until 2018, anyone -- even members of Mr. Smith's family -- who wishes to obtain copyright clearance to publish this document, will have to trace Mr. Smith's GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN. And if they can obtain that clearance, and publish the diary, it will obtain another 20 years of copyright protection, up to as late as 2038... TWO CENTURIES AFTER MR. SMITH'S BIRTH. This is nuts. And it is being done entirely at the behest of the literary heirs of one author, Lucy Maud Montgomery; heirs who were already given a grace period, until 2003, by the Copyright Act reforms of Bill C-32 in 1998. Lucy Maud Montgomery's heirs will do well by Bill C-36. The rest of us are about to get cut off from the 20th-century history of our own families, our own communities, our own institutions, our own politics, and our own societies. Bill C-36 will prevent you from publishing your own Aunt Mae's diary from the First World War and Spanish Flu. Bill C-36 will prevent you from publishing your own grandfather's letters home from a Northern Ontario lumber camp. Bill C-36 will prevent you from publishing the Parish Priest's 1898 account of meeting your great-grandfather on his rounds, and marrying the great-aunt and great-uncle who you only know from pictures. Bill C-36 is going to shut the door on all manner of family history, scholarly, and heritage publications for at least another 14 years, or until the next extension that a special interest can secure. Material that would have become public domain at the end of 2003 is going to be re-privatized, and copyright rights are going to be revived, even though there will be no way in law or in fact to identify the holders of those copyrights. That is exactly why limited terms of copyright were instituted in the first place. Bill C-36 turns that principle on its head, just to suit Lucy Maud Montgomery. Librarians, archivists, teachers, genealogists, publishers, dramatists, scholars, students, academics, translators, museums, conservationists, researchers, and scientists are about to be saddled with impossible copyright restrictions. The public domain is about to take another hit, and no one is standing up or speaking out. This measure was written into a draft bill following a sham consultation of exactly FOUR stakeholders, whose sessions were held behind closed doors, whose mandate and activities were never publicized, and whose final report was given to the public without any meaningful notice or period in which to respond. When the controversy over C-36 broke in the House of Commons Heritage Committee, the regular members of the Committee reached an agreement to pull the offending Copyright Act amendments from the bill. However, in an extraordinary session held outside the regular parliamentary session, substitute members of the Committee voted to reinstate them. This is wrong. Please contact your Member of Parliament, members of the House of Commons Heritage Committee, and the line Ministers (Allan Rock, Industry; Sheila Copps, Heritage) to voice your opposition to this measure being rammed through Parliament without full, fair, and open Parliamentary and public debate on this issue. Otherwise, the door is closing on our 20th century history, until far too long into the 21st... assuming, in the best case, that there is no further amendment to the Copyright Act, extending the term for the benefit of Lucy Maud and other special interests. Please protect the public domain. Voice your concerns to... (1) YOUR OWN MP = first five letters of surname + initial @parl.gc.ca (see examples below). * * * This is the single most important person to contact, ESPECIALLY if he or she is also a Member of Parliament listed below. If you only lift pen or open your email to write one person, make it YOUR OWN MP. * * * (2) The "line ministers" and departments with responsibility for Bill C-36 and copyright: Minister Sheila Copps: [email protected] AND [email protected] Minister Allan Rock: [email protected] AND [email protected] Heritage Canada Copyright Office: [email protected] Industry Canada Copyright Office: [email protected] Mr. Ian Wilson, National Archivist of Canada: [email protected] Mr. Roch Carrier, National Librarian of Canada: [email protected] (3) Members, House of Commons Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage: CHAIR Clifford Lincoln (Lib, QC): [email protected] VICE-CHAIRS Jim Abbott (CA, BC): [email protected] Paul Bonwick (Lib, ON): [email protected] MEMBERS Carole-Marie Allard (Lib, QC, Parliamentary Sec., Canadian Heritage): [email protected] Sarmite Bulte (Lib, ON): [email protected] << voted FOR copyright extension R. John Efford (Lib, NF): [email protected] Liza Frulla (Lib, QC): [email protected] << voted FOR copyright extension Christiane Gagnon (BQ, QC): [email protected] John Harvard (Lib, MB): [email protected] Wendy Lill (NDP, NS): [email protected] James Lunney (CA, BC): [email protected] Dennis Mills (Lib, ON): [email protected] Gary Schellenberger (PC, ON: [email protected] << voted AGAINST extension Alex Shepherd (Lib, ON) [email protected] Caroline St-Hilaire (BQ, QC): [email protected] Chuck Strahl (CA, BC): [email protected] (4) SUBSTITUTE MEMBERS WHO VOTED ON JUNE 17th: Voted AGAINST copyright extension (hooray!) Mauril Bélanger (Lib, ON): [email protected] Voted FOR copyright extension (boo!) Larry Bagnell (Lib, YK): [email protected] Ray Bonin (Lib, ON): [email protected] Guy St-Julien (Lib, QC): [email protected] John Godfrey (Lib, ON) [email protected]

To all -- All listed below are taken from the Toronto Sun. I was unsuccessful in my searches for Fellegi, S-13 and other search titles -- will be in contact with several GOOD writers who are not afraid of posting our problems. http://www.canoe.com/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2003/06/26/119889.html http://www.canoe.com/CNEWS/Canada/2003/06/26/120536-cp.html http://www.canoe.com/CNEWS/Politics/2003/06/26/120539-cp.html ============= Kathleen Harris not listed among columnists TIME TO PAY BACK? Radwanski expenses By Kathleen Harris Ottawa Bureau OTTAWA-- Free spending ex-privacy commissioner George Radwanski could be forced to reimburse the public purse for dipping too deep into his expense accounts and leaving a trail of unpaid income taxes. Canadian Alliance MP Paul Forseth said yesterday the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency must review Radwanski's controversial deal to write off more than $500,000 in taxes. Radwanski should have disclosed the prospect of a looming $210,000-a-year job as privacy commissioner when he hammered out the final details of a bankruptcy protection arrangement in 2000, Forseth said. "That whole agreement might be invalid because of misrepresentation," he said. Paid 10% of debt Comparing it to a divorce pact based on an incomplete financial picture, Forseth said the looming high-paid post could have altered the founding terms of the tax relief deal that resulted in him paying just 10% of taxes owed. "If they knew this and there was no political interference, that's fine, it was all above board. But if not, they've got to go back and negotiate with him again," he said. CCRA spokesman SAm Papadopoulos said individuals are required to report potential income to the court when going through bankruptcy protection. It's possible to petition the court to reopen a case, but only in cases with evidence of fraudlent intent. NDP Pat Martin said he hopes the public can recoup misspent dollars. The auditor general's audit of Radwanski's financial dealings could lead to such orders," he said. "I want to see us go after reimbursement retroactively." ========== Should any reader wonder WHY we have spent space for Radwanski, it is because he, as privacy commissioner, found the UNFINDABLE LAW that prevented the 1911 census from being released June 1, 2003. As a former editor in chief of toronto Star and writer of speeches for the Prime Minister, he "possibly" thought he wrote or read it. Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee [Former printer, newspaper editor, etc.] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03

http://www.nationalpost.com/home/ At the top, beside a box with words "National Post" is a blank one. Type in RADWANSKI -- click on Go, and you will obtain 17 more stories. As you will note, each newspaper has its own style, but I would hate to have the calories in the $444 luncheon! ============== http://www.globeandmail.com/ Again, type RADWANSKI in the left-hand search space, click on Go -- and you will obtain FORTY-FIVE (45) stories, of which some might be repeats. The very first one is interesting -- punishment in House of Commons style -- I watched this on CPAC for a much lesser infraction! =========== The Ottawa Citizen is at http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ Type RADWANSKI in the search box, click on Go, and you will have several hours reading -- 96 stories! ========= The Hill Times in Ottawa at http://www.thehilltimes.ca/2003/june/23/ Two great articles -- George Radwanski's travel and meal expense to May 2003 [PRINT] The whistleblowing behind George Radwanski's undoing ============== Should anyone disagree, please contact me personally -- these are PUBLIC SERVANTS/EMPLOYEES - paid by US -- except we did not have the opportunity to elect him -- appointed by the Prime Minister. Doubtlessly, there are others -- we will have to wait and see! Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Brampton, ON --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03

Radwanski is gone, with a very generous severance package. One government parasite gone, but not forgotten. Now, lets see the unbeloved Jean exit, stage left. Followed by the rest of the horribles that he has appointed to oversee us, and live off the public's money. How about if we start with an investigation of the Dear Dr. Fellegi?

To all:- In a previous posting I mentioned that I had to visit Revenue Canada and hoped the staff member would "forgive" my veteran husband!! The bill I had received was $530.20 -- not much -- but on my husband's pension income -- too much! The clerk at Revenue Canada was extremely helpful -- found the problem and I believe she complimented me when she said, "You certainly do not look like Radwanski!" I had not mentioned this matter -- but the staff of Revenue Canada dislike their connection for "something" done by "another". She said many of them have had hurtful things said to them. Yes, my husband was "forgiven" -- Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03

To all:- To read all of the 39 (to date) postings about George Radwanski, a former editor-in-chief of The Toronto Star, do the following:- http://www.thestar.com/ There is a 14-day search area at the top Enter RADWANSKI hit Go I will read all of these after I return from Revenue Canada hopeful someone will be kind and "forgive" my veteran husand (at Sunnybrook) so I will not have to pay $530.20 on total of $16,500.00. [Seems like Radwanski used some of the money that could have come our way!!!] Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/03