Here was my question to the Liberal candidate in my riding (Ottawa Orleans). I have not yet received a reply from the other candidates. | I am wondering where Mr. Godbout and the Liberal Party | stand on the issue of census release. As an avid | genealogist, I am very concerned that we had to take | the government to federal court to get the 1906 | western census released to the public. The 1911 | federal census should have been made available in | 2003, however, the chief statistician has failed to | deliver it to the Archives of Canada claiming some | promise of confidentiality (which he has not been able | to produce) was given when the information was taken. | That too is currently before the federal court. The | legislation introduced by Sen. Lorna Milne in the last | session had so many restrictions on it that it was | ridiculous and many of us heaved a sigh of relief when | it did not pass. | | So, if elected, will a Liberal gov't instruct Mr. | Fellegi (Stats Canada) to obey the law and release the | records to the Archives immediately? And will it also | introduce legislation to ensure continued access to | census records 92 years after they are taken as was | the case for nominal censuses from 1851-1901? | | I remember a speech made last year by Mr Martin | stating that bureaucrats should be bureaucrats and let | the legislators govern. I hope he is true to his word. | The delaying tactics of Mr. Fellegi have gone on long | enough. | | You can read more at the following website: | | http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm | | Thank you, for your time. I would appreciate a | response. The reply: Hi, My name is Gérard Huneault and I have been asked by Mr Godbout to help him answer some of the many questions he gets every day. Your question is good and requires a bit of research and consultation on my part. It is the first time we encounter this one. I will make every effort to get back to you as soon as possible with the Liberal Party's and Mr Godbout's position on this. Gérard Huneault for Marc Godbout Liberal Candidate Ottawa-Orléans Patty

Makes you wonder, which party really has a "SECRET AGENDA," doesn't it. Juanita MacDonald Jim Thatcher wrote: > I received the email message below today. It was an answer to a June 2 > email message to the three main candidates in Simcoe Grey riding in > Ontario. I have copied my message below. > It looks as though the Chief Statistician wrote the reply himself. The > same old stuff we have heard before. > Jim > > Dear Jim, > > This is the position that I received from the Liberal Party this > afternoon. > > There was considerable debate with regard to Bill S-13 and this is a > summary of some of the arguments in favour of protecting census data.In > regards to Clause 8 being altered, there are some strong reasons why > this data will not to be released to the general public.They are as > follows: > > In the past personal census data has not been released to anyone prior > to a 92-year waiting period. > The Privacy Commissioner of Canada who made detailed submissions to the > Expert Panel on this issue argued, when information is to be released > for the purposes other than those for which it was collected, individual > consent is required. > Statistics Canada relies on public cooperation and is thus concerned > with preserving the integrity of Canada’s statistical system.Statistics > Canada is based on an “unconditional promise of confidentiality.” > An Environics poll, demonstrated that Canadians had concerns with the > proposed legislation and the release of their personal data and they > would be less likely to participate in the census, if their information > was made public. > Specifically, clause 8 is designed to prevent legal difficulties from > arising with respect to future censuses.It is intended to ensure that, > in the future, Canadians will be asked to give their prior consent to > having their records stored in the National Archives. > It is unknown how many Canadians will opt out, but it is presumed it > will be low.Example: Stats Can did a Community Health Survey and less > that 5% of respondents declined to allow their information to be > released to local authorities. > For the most part this information is kept confidential in order to > allow Statistics Canada to continue its work effectively and with the > assistance of Canadians. > This is the information that I have been able to obtain to date. I have > discussed this issue with Mr. Bonwick and he would like to see the > release of the data from the 1911 census. He has been in touch with a > number of officials requesting the expeditious release of that material. > > Kind Regards, > Nancy > Nancy Knight- > Constituency Assistant to > The Honourable Paul Bonwick, P.C., M.P. > Simcoe-Grey

-----Original Message----- From: Alaura Ross [mailto:alaura@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:32 AM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: Mike Redmond Campaign Thank you for your question on the release of census data. As someone with a life-long interest in history and an interest in my own family's history in Canada I strongly support the release of historic census data. The destruction of irreplaceable information such as this cannot be allowed. Regards, Mike Redmond Conservative Party of Canada Candidate Burnaby-New Westminster

-----Original Message----- From: Alec Morrison [mailto:alec.morrison@hedyfry.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:01 AM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: RE: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census Dear Adele Turner, I agree with the release of the post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archives. Hedy

I received the email message below today. It was an answer to a June 2 email message to the three main candidates in Simcoe Grey riding in Ontario. I have copied my message below. It looks as though the Chief Statistician wrote the reply himself. The same old stuff we have heard before. Jim Dear Jim, This is the position that I received from the Liberal Party this afternoon. There was considerable debate with regard to Bill S-13 and this is a summary of some of the arguments in favour of protecting census data.In regards to Clause 8 being altered, there are some strong reasons why this data will not to be released to the general public.They are as follows: In the past personal census data has not been released to anyone prior to a 92-year waiting period. The Privacy Commissioner of Canada who made detailed submissions to the Expert Panel on this issue argued, when information is to be released for the purposes other than those for which it was collected, individual consent is required. Statistics Canada relies on public cooperation and is thus concerned with preserving the integrity of Canada’s statistical system.Statistics Canada is based on an “unconditional promise of confidentiality.” An Environics poll, demonstrated that Canadians had concerns with the proposed legislation and the release of their personal data and they would be less likely to participate in the census, if their information was made public. Specifically, clause 8 is designed to prevent legal difficulties from arising with respect to future censuses.It is intended to ensure that, in the future, Canadians will be asked to give their prior consent to having their records stored in the National Archives. It is unknown how many Canadians will opt out, but it is presumed it will be low.Example: Stats Can did a Community Health Survey and less that 5% of respondents declined to allow their information to be released to local authorities. For the most part this information is kept confidential in order to allow Statistics Canada to continue its work effectively and with the assistance of Canadians. This is the information that I have been able to obtain to date. I have discussed this issue with Mr. Bonwick and he would like to see the release of the data from the 1911 census. He has been in touch with a number of officials requesting the expeditious release of that material. Kind Regards, Nancy Nancy Knight- Constituency Assistant to The Honourable Paul Bonwick, P.C., M.P. Simcoe-Grey My email message to the candidates: To the candidates in the 2004 Federal Election As the co-ordinator of the Beaver Valley Probus Club Genealogy Group and its 105 members who come from all the Probus clubs in the area, I am asking the candidates in the upcoming federal election to state their party's official position re the release of the 1911 and later census returns. As amateur genealogists we feel that the census is a unique resource in family research. In no other place can one find all the members of a family together in one record, giving us a reliable resource to determine the parents and children who made up a particular family at a given time and place. We would like to see unrestricted release of the census returns as has been done in the past up to the 1901 and 1906 census returns, i.e. after 92 years. We would especially appreciate receiving from you the official position of your party re certain clauses in Bill S-13, which was passed last year in the Senate but 'died' in the House of Commons. 1. Would you give unrestricted release of the census after 92 years and kill the provision of S-13 that would add another 20 years and more bureaucratic controls over the information. We recognize the need to protect privacy, but certainly 92 years is sufficient time to protect the privacy of the people mentioned in the census. In the USA the census is released after 72 years. 2. Would you release the 1911 census immediately. The Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi should have released it last year to the Archives of Canada but continues to ignore the law. 3. Would you drop the provision for the 2006 census and later which would require that citizens check off a box to allow the information to be released after 92 years. This would be catastrophic for genealogical research. One member of a family could take away the rights of all other members to have their descendants view their information. Or a great percentage of people would unknowingly ignore the requirement, thus depriving their descendants of vital information. For further information go to the web site of the Canadian Census Committee at www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ Thank you in advance for a speedy reply to our request. Jim Thatcher Thornbury NOH 2P0 jthatch@bmts.com

Message -----Original Message----- From: Scott Fraser HQ [mailto:sfraserpark@shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:15 PM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: ISSUES - How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Hi Adele: I absolutely agree with you on the value of the information contained in the censuses taken. I oppose the destruction of these documents. Health Care for the NDP is our passion. We would implement much of the Romanow Report and we would restore funding to 25% of the cost of health care delivery. As you know, it was Paul Martin, as Finance Minister that took $25 billion out of health care. My personal opinion is that a unequivocally support a woman's right to choose. Sincerely, Scott Fraser

-----Original Message----- From: Pummy Kaur Federal NDP Campaign [mailto:pummyk@telus.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:45 AM To: Adele Turner Subject: Re: Endorsements for Pummy Kaur Dear Ms. Turner, I am sorry to give you the impression that I do not care about your concerns. I am sure you can appreciate the fact that I receive DOZENS of e-mails and scores of questionnaires daily. I almost have to schedule time to sneeze. The a-mail you received was a mass mail out sent by the Election Planning Team. I was waiting to finis up the major al candidates debates before respond to emails that I though could wait till today. I am sorry to have disappointed you. To answer your question. ABSOLUTELY YES! The NDP and I are committed to preserving our culture and maintaining our sovereignty. We have a number of measures to protect, preserve, enhance and celebrate all the good things that we are. My grandmother taught me that if a people do not where they came from they will have someone else's future. Please call me if there is anything else I can do for you. 604=531-9707 In solidarity for peace and justice. Pummy Kaur (sounds like yummy core) ----- Original Message ----- From: Adele Turner To: Pummy Kaur Federal NDP Campaign Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:42 PM Subject: RE: Endorsements for Pummy Kaur Thank you for your reply but it doesn't appear to me that my email was even read by you or your team. I asked ONE question that was not answered. I hope that isn't how you plan to service your constituents if you become an MP. I asked, "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" I only want a "yes" or "No" regarding support of saving our Historic Census. Rest assured, I have emailed everyone in my riding and all other potential MP's for all parties in BC. (If I have time, I will email them all across Canada too.) I want to know the views of everyone so I can make my decision for which party to vote for as I will not be voting for "a person" in my riding.....not one of them are to my liking.....so mine will be a party vote only. Whichever party gives me the majority support on this issue then that will be the party that will get my vote. You see, you have the potential to be an MP who will ultimately represent ALL Canadians when you in vote in the House of Commons......your vote will not be just for your riding but for all Canadians. So it is important to me to know whether you support the release of the historic Census instead of voting for its destruction when you get elected......remembering that Canada has preserved very little of its history. I, personally, am trying to trace a rare crippling genetic bone disease that my sister has had since birth and was finally diagnosed when she was 12 years old. Below, I have added my general overview. At the end of it, I have cut and pasted a submission on a more common genetic disorder ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE that one of our Census Committee published. If you have time, please read it. This is the issue: The Canadian "Save the Census" Committee have been told by StatsCan's that there was a promise made to the Canadian people before the 1911 Census by the PM that nothing would never be released if they complied with the Census takers. However, after many years of research by lawyers, law enforcement and genealogist scanning all the newspapers and government documents from that era(Queens Printer also), we have not been able to find any such promise nor has Stats Can provided us with actual literature verifying this promise. It continues to be a heresy promise that some government official has started and many MP's have latched on to it as fact........and no one can or has shown us this written promise or anything that was verbal. Although, we have repeatedly requested this proof that this so called promise was made. Now here is the submission made Don Nisbitt. A submission made by Don Nisbitt to the Expert Panel for the Release of the Census and I quote: ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE By Don Nisbet Subject: My Letter on Genetic Disease for the Expert Panel Dear Panel Members: One year ago my sister and I buried our mother. The feelings of loss when a parent dies are no doubt familiar to those on the panel, but I believe the end of her life must have seemed a blessing to my mother as it ended seven years of suffering and loss. My mother was another victim of Alzheimer's disease. Watching my mother slowly reduced from a healthy and independent woman looking forward to enjoying the remaining years allotted her to a confused and fearful person, stripped of dignity and spirit and with seemingly no capacity to enjoy even the simplest things, was painful beyond description for those of us who loved her. Only those who have gone through it can possibly understand. But our sadness would not have been unfamiliar to my mother. My aunt manifested the symptoms of this illness six years before her and she had to watch her suffering as well. In 1956 they buried their mother after years of coping with the burden of caring for my grandmother during her long battle with that same terrible disease. Our grandmother carried her own memories of the effects of Alzheimer's disease on a family as she, as the youngest daughter, carried the responsibilities of caring for her own mother in the last years of her life -- another victim of that disease. I have since learned that I have had great-uncles and great-aunts and cousins as well die from the effects of this nasty form of dementia. It is now beyond question that this disease is in some way being genetically handed down in our family and the fate of my mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother may very well be my own. There is but one hope for myself and the younger members of our family: the cause of this form of genetically transmitted Alzheimer's Disease must be found and research for a cure must be pursued. I am doing what I can. As a genealogist I have undertaken the sometimes difficult and frustrating work of compiling my family tree by gathering information from public, private, and family records and memory and turning that family tree into a medical pedigree of sufficient detail and depth that it will be useful as a research tool for genetic scientists seeking the causes and the cure of this terrible disease. Such medical family trees are the bedrock of research into the causes of almost every disease known to be genetic in origin. Already large family trees have proven the key to uncovering the genes that cause Huntington's Chorea, Cystic Fibrosis, Muscular Dystrophy, and dozens of more common diseases such as types of cancer, diabetes, and heart disease. Canada has been among the leaders in this type of genetic research and many similar studies using family trees are underway across the country. But more needs to be done. I am hoping to offer, with the full knowledge and blessing of family members, our family tree to genetic scientists studying familial Alzheimer's disease in the hope it will lead to progress and bring future relief to the tens of thousands of Canadians who face this disease. When my tree is converted to a medical pedigree all identifying information is stripped from it making it anonymous so it may safely be shared with the medical community. I fear the disease more than I fear the remote possibility of my privacy being violated. Compiling a family tree as accurate and complete as I have done would not have been possible without access to Canada's historical census records. The loss of such future access will significantly damage both genealogy and research into genetic diseases of that there is no doubt in my mind. I feel the privacy violation, if it can even be remotely considered as such, of granting to historians and genealogists access to census records after 92 years is little to ask for so large a gain. I do not accept that the supposed privacy when the rights of the dead take precedence over the right of the living to enjoy healthy and productive lives. I respectively ask the panel not to forget the real consequences on the lives of hundreds of thousands of Canadian men, women, and children suffering genetic diseases now and in the future if historical censuses are closed or destroyed. They deserve a voice in this debate. Thank you. Sincerely, Don Nisbet (unquote) Thank you for taking time to read this email. Adele Turner North Vancouver, BC -----Original Message----- From: Pummy Kaur Federal NDP Campaign [mailto:pummyk@telus.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 3:29 PM To: Geoff Dean Subject: Endorsements for Pummy Kaur Dear voter, As you know, the federal election is being held this Monday. If you have any questions about where or when to vote, please give us a call at 604-531-9707. I hope you will be supporting our candidate, Pummy Kaur. In doing so, I hope you will find the following endorsements useful, and that you will be able to share them with your neighbours. I apologize for sending them out to you this way, but unfortunately we were unable to get an ad with them into the local paper this weekend. If you get this in time, you may also want to attend - and take your neighbours to - the all-candidates' meeting on June 22nd at 7pm at Star of the Sea Hall on Pacific Avenue in White Rock, or watch Shaw Cable's all-candidates' session on Saturday, June 26th, at 9am. Thank you, and again, my apologies for using this impersonal means of getting the message out. Geoff Dean official agent for Pummy Kaur Why I am endorsing Pummy Kaur for South Surrey / White Rock / Cloverdale: • Gordon Hogg, while Mayor of White Rock, ..."She is an outstanding, caring, thoroughly dedicated educator. The creation of the non-profit Global Wellness Center is a testimonial to her compassion and concern for the future well-being of our world. Her active involvement in environmental issues and global issues is well known, both within our community and beyond." • Judy Villeneuve, ... “I have personally seen Jack Layton bring real focus and new energy to issues like health care, the environment, and affordable housing. I believe that Pummy’s intelligence, sincerity, and warmth will help the NDP place these concerns at the forefront of our national agenda.” • Rob Demone, editor, Peace Arch News ...“Pummy has been exemplary in her willingness and candor to speak frankly on just about any issue. She knows what she stands for and she is proud of it.” ...June 12 • Ellen Neal, editor, The Now ...“Pummy Kaur is dynamic, bright eyed, forceful, gentle and so approachable.” ...June 16 • Bjorn Stavrum, former editor of the Peace Arch News, ..."I have a strong feeling that you'd make an excellent MP for your constituency. Good luck!" • Bob Bose, former Mayor of Surrey, ...“She is bright, capable and highly motivated with a wealth of experience. A strong advocate for the interests of our rich cultural community, a vote for Pummy and the New Democrats will bring balance to Parliament. This ensures protection of our social programs that reflect our Canadian values.” • Dr. Barbara Holmes, Director of Research, Communications and Safe Schools, Surrey, ..."Pummy is a constant seeker of new and often unique challenges, an adventurer, a firm believer im humanity and forces beyond humanity, and an ardent environmentalist. She imposes herself on life and the world in an endearing, if forceful manner and with an enviable level of physical and mental energy." • Art Kube, Past President of BC Federation of Labour, now President, Seniors on Guard For Medicare, ...“With her past record in her field of education she has shown a caring that will prove her an able strong voice for the seniors of our community.” • Huddy Roddan, Advocate for Social Housing, ...“I’m supporting Pummy Kaur because of her years of peace work, her leadership in global education, and her environmental efforts that earned her two awards from the City of Surrey.” • Gary Howard, Executive Director, R.E.A.C.H. Center for Multicultural Education, Washington, ..."Ms Kaur is a visionary and innovator who knows how to get things done. She generates the energy of any five normal human beings, simultaneously being an activist and creative genius in the fields of gifted education, environmental concerns, women's issues, multicultural education, art, social justice, and community improvement, to mention only a few of her deep interests. She is living testimony of the power of one persons caring connection to all of life." • Camille Mather, MLA Delta 1960-1964, Wife of Barry Mather, ...“On June 28th please vote for your NDP candidate Pummy Kaur. The CCF, now NDP brought us OAP and medicare, which has been short changed by the present government. I am one of the many old people in White Rock concerned with these cuts. Pummy needs your vote to protect our social programs.” • Penny Priddy, Former MLA, Cabinet Minister, ...“I know that with Pummy ’s experience in the education system, and with her extensive knowledge of international education needs, she will be a strong voice in Ottawa for life-long learning.” • Alex Macdonald, Former MP, Attorney General- Victoria 1972-1976, ... “Neither right wing parties, Harper’s Conservatives or Martin’s Liberals! In contrast only Pummy Kaur represents the social democracy we need.” • Bernard Charles, Former Grand Chief of the Semiahmoo band, “Pummy has impressed me with her commitment and her ethics.” • David Webb, Former White Rock Counsellor, Owner of local B&B, ... “Pummy’s experience in the world of education and the environment proves she is an asset to this community.” • Mary Woo Sims, Human Rights Comissioner, ...“Pummy is a passionate advocate for social justice and human rights. Her tireless work on behalf of the most vulnerable will make her a great Member of Parliament for the community of South Surrey-White Rock-Cloverdale.” • Shiela Anne Logan, Membership Chair, Soroptomist International, White Rock, ..."Thank you for your integrity. Although I do not support the NDP party, I have to say that I am a person who tends to vote for a candidate, rather than the party. You impressed me with your graciousness and forthrightness. As a person, you have my support, I wish you well in the upcoming battle." • Dave Barrett, Former BC Premier, ...“She is absolutely outstanding in the field of her endeavour and represents the best of our Canadian future.” • Lynn Pollard, Teacher and Naturalist, ...“A number of years ago, I left the NDP as a result of perceived lack of environmental awareness. You can’t get any “greener” than Pummy Kaur, so I am back!” • Charan Gill, Farm Labour Advocate, ...“Her heart is in the right place and knows the issues people care about. She is articulate and can represent our community very well.” • Ramona Roden, ..."I hope you are successful in your endeavors and that your Party may be a very strong opposition and future controlling government. Congratulations on being an example for young women in our community, success and virtue, a tough balance." • Jessie Winch, Former Provincial Secretary CCF-NDP, wife of Harold Winch, ...“[Pummy is ] a true champion of the less fortunate and the elderly.”

-----Original Message----- From: Starleigh Grass [mailto:starleighgrass@ndp.ca] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:41 AM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: Post 1910 Historic Federal Census Hi Adele, As a First Nations person I value the knowledge of our elders and ancestors. Knowing who came before us, and our geneology is an essential part of many Canadian identities. I understand that it is also important for the medical reasons and for the Canadian Home Children, for whom it could be their only source of infomation on their origins. I support the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census, and would be livid if it were destroyed. In Solidarity, Starleigh Grass

Jim Thorpe responded but doesn't seem to know anything about the Census issue so I have forwarded him a short email with our plight. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Thorpe [mailto:jthorpe@neonet.bc.ca] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:05 AM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: question Hi: I was not aware that the history of individuals and historical information collected by stats Canada was going to be destroyed. What has happened to the freedom of information law? Stats Canada should not destroy any documentation that could be of value to individuals. I hope I have answered some of your concerns. Arleene Thorpe athorpeliberal@neonet.bc.ca 1017-95th Avenue Dawson Creek, BC V1G 1H9 tel: 1-250-782-7122 fax: 1-250-782-7185 mobile: 1-250-719-9559 (cell) Signature powered by Plaxo ... Want a signature like this?

-----Original Message----- From: Libby Davies [mailto:libby@electlibby.ca] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:01 PM To: Adele Turner Subject: Re: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Dear Adele, Thank you for your email. I supported the release of the post 1901 Census, as you point out it allows people to find out vital information about their families and background. Yours Sincerely, Libby Libby Davies NDP Candidate in Vancouver East 1839 Commercial Drive 604-254-2290 libby@electlibby.ca www.libbydavies.ca New energy. A positive choice. www.ndp.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: Adele Turner To: libby@electlibby.ca Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the NDP Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. My parents live in your riding and your response on this issue will help make up their minds too. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: ajturner@shaw.ca P.S. Health Care in another issue that is important to me but your party has declared your stand on this issue if you actually carry out your promises. Or, will you blindly accept the Unions suggestion that don't seem to have been beneficial to the province or country so far. But what about your personal stand on "Women's Rights to Choose"?

-----Original Message----- From: James Moore [mailto:jamesmoorecampaign@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:17 PM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: RE: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Adele, I am in favour of releasing the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census as I understand its great value to the roughly 7.5 million Canadians engaged in genealogy. Yours, James Moore >From: Adele Turner <ajturner@shaw.ca> >To: jamesmoorecampaign@hotmail.com >Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic >Federal Census? >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:09:37 -0700 > >Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on >the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote >for the Liberal Party). I would like to know: > >"What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the >Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" > >For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have >the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to >destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in >Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our >research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, >British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical >research, AND it is all important to us. > >Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. My parents live in your >riding and your response on this issue will help make up their minds too. > >Adele Turner >#67 - 1947 Purcell Way >North Vancouver, BC >V7J 3H4 >1 604 987-5137 >email: ajturner@shaw.ca > >_________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines

-----Original Message----- From: Will Hansma [mailto:will_hansma@telus.net] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:36 PM To: Adele Turner Subject: Spam Alert: Re: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Adele I do not support destroying the records. Who in their right mind would consider such a thing. Our history is very important personally or nationally. After finally recovering form the legacy of fiscal mismanagement in deficit and debt increases of 264 billion dollars left by the conservative party in 1993. We can finally start to focus on re-establishing our programs and forge a bright future for this fantastic country of Canada. I am committed to sitting down with the Provinces and put together workable solutions for the delivery of health care. Regards Will Hansma North Okanagan - Shuswap ----- Original Message ----- From: Adele Turner To: will_hansma@telus.net Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 12:12 PM Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the Liberal Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. My parents live in your riding and your response on this issue will help make up their minds too. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: ajturner@shaw.ca P.S. Health Care in another issue that is important to me but so far the 10 year Liberal run in office has not proven this is importatn to you....especially after the way our valuable tax dollars have been wasted in the sponsorship scandal and should have been used for Health Care.

-----Original Message----- From: Harvey Grigg Campaign [mailto:harvey@vancouvereast.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:59 PM To: Adele Turner Subject: Re: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? While I don't believe we have a party position on the Census Issue, Harvey's personal feeling is that having access to this information, within reasonable limits, should be allowed. Thanks very much for your interest. I hope this addresses your questions. I have spoken with Harvey on these issues, but there just isn't enough time in the day for him to respond personally to all of them. Best regards, DJ Lawrence Campaign Manager ----- Original Message ----- From: Adele Turner To: harvey@vancouvereast.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the Liberal Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. My parents live in your riding and your response on this issue will help make up their minds too. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: ajturner@shaw.ca P.S. Health Care in another issue that is important to me but your party has declared your stand on this issue if you actually carry out your promises. But what about your personal stand on "Women's Rights to Choose"? Or, are you backing Mr. Harper's stand?

Message -----Original Message----- From: Info - Green Party of Canada - Parti Vert du Canada [mailto:info@greenparty.ca] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 3:53 PM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: RE: Releasing the Post 1901 Census Hello Adele... I'm unhappy to report that currently the Green Party does not have a policy in regards to this subject. I hope you find someone who is able to represent you before you vote. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:15 AM To: info@greenparty.ca Subject: Releasing the Post 1901 Census Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a battle to have the Censuses released after 92 years and Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: ajturner@shaw.ca P.S. Health Care in another issue that is important to me but at least most of the parties have taken a stand on this problem. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/04

Thank you for taking time to reply. -----Original Message----- From: John Duncan [mailto:electduncan@telus.net] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 6:09 AM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: Issues Dear Adele Turner Thank you for your E-mail of 17 June 2004. I am on record in the House of Comons on being an advocate to release Post 1901 Census data, and I continue to take this position. Sincerely John Duncan

email -----Original Message----- From: Randy Kamp [mailto:randy@randykamp.com] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 4:13 PM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: Issues Hi Adele, Thanks for taking the time to write. I can't say for sure whether our party has a position on the question you ask because we merged only six months ago and there are some areas that we haven't gotten to yet. Having said that, I would be very surprised if it's not the same as my own: that the Post 1901 Canadian Census data should be released to the National Archives. I know that the Canadian Alliance, one of our merger partners, supported the release of the 1911 census records in 2003. Randy Kamp Randy Kamp website Conservative Party of Canada website

As part of the Census Committee, I have emailed all potential MP's for all parties here in BC (Liberal, Conservative, NDP & Green party) and asked this question and I quote: Before I commit myself to any personal or party on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on all the positive responses I get from all individuals across Canada. (No reply will result in a no vote for the (NDP/Liberal/Conservative/GreenParty). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" Unquote I elaborated a bit more with a short explanation so they knew what the issue is in a short paragraph. Now I will forward all my answers to our mailing list. Adele Turner -----Original Message----- From: Alan Rycroft [mailto:rycroft@islandnet.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:00 PM To: Adele Turner Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Adele Turner: David Turner, the Victoria NDP candidate, is an academic at the University of Victoria, and therefore totally in favour of open access to historical information held by Stats Canada and the Census. I am certain he stands with you in the release of this important, historical information. Sincerely, Alan Rycroft David Turner NDP Campaign Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:04:49 -0700 From: Adele Turner <ajturner@shaw.ca> Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? To: david@davidturner.ca Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the NDP Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. My parents live in your riding and your response on this issue will help make up their minds too. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: <mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca>ajturner@shaw.ca P.S. Health Care in another issue that is important to me but your party has declared your stand on this issue if you actually carry out your promises. Or, will you blindly accept the Unions suggestion that don't seem to have been beneficial to the province or country so far. But what about your personal stand on "Women's Rights to Choose"? o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o Alan Rycroft, Sunshine Communications 250.592.8307 Canada Box 8307, Victoria, BC, V8W 3R9 rycroft@SunshineCommunications.ca http://SunshineCommunications.ca o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

FYI, reference. Wayne Easter is running in the PEI riding of Malpeque. Sorry for the wonky formatting. Easter Supports Census Data Release CORNWALL (June 16, 2004) Wayne Easter, MP and Liberal candidate for the federal riding of Malpeque called today for the immediate release by Statistics Canada of the 1911 Canadian census to Library and Archives Canada for immediate access by all Canadians. 'The delay in releasing the 1911 census by Statistics Canada is unacceptable to me and to all Canadians who are interested in preserving our Canadian heritage", candidate Easter stated. National censuses for 1901 and prior and 1906 for Western Canada have been released unfettered after ninety-two years (92) for Canadian historians, genealogists and family researchers. For some unclear and unsubstantiated reason Statistics Canada wants to change the policy on release to 120 years and with attached conditions, which most researchers agree, would substantially restrict the level of public information. Great Britain releases its census after 92 years, the United States after 72 years for the world to access. " In this age when criticism is levelled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen", Mr Easter further stated. The issue has been studied and reviewed under the direction of several Ministers. The results of these activities have been consistent ---release the census. To date no complaints have been made to the National Archives for the release of censuses prior to 1911. "My support to all those who are interested in accessing the 1911 census, as is possible for prior censuses, to research the history of their communities and their families is unequivocal and I look forward to taking the issue to the next parliament", Mr Easter concluded.

Thanks Wallace. For the information of all I would correct one error made in the article -- Census in Great Britain is released after 100 years, not 92 years as stated. I will not be voting Liberal, but were Mr. Easter running in my riding I would be tempted. Should the Liberals form the next government perhaps we could nominate Mr. Easter for the position of Minister of Industry. <]:-) Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallace J.McLean" <ag737@freenet.carleton.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:35 AM Subject: [CCC] Liberal MP/candidate Wayne Easter supports census release FYI, reference. Wayne Easter is running in the PEI riding of Malpeque. Sorry for the wonky formatting. Easter Supports Census Data Release CORNWALL (June 16, 2004) Wayne Easter, MP and Liberal candidate for the federal riding of Malpeque called today for the immediate release by Statistics Canada of the 1911 Canadian census to Library and Archives Canada for immediate access by all Canadians. 'The delay in releasing the 1911 census by Statistics Canada is unacceptable to me and to all Canadians who are interested in preserving our Canadian heritage", candidate Easter stated. National censuses for 1901 and prior and 1906 for Western Canada have been released unfettered after ninety-two years (92) for Canadian historians, genealogists and family researchers. For some unclear and unsubstantiated reason Statistics Canada wants to change the policy on release to 120 years and with attached conditions, which most researchers agree, would substantially restrict the level of public information. Great Britain releases its census after 92 years, the United States after 72 years for the world to access. " In this age when criticism is levelled at our educational institutions for not making Canadian history courses readily available to our students this attempt by Stats Can to further remove Canadians from their recorded historical roots must not be allowed to happen", Mr Easter further stated. The issue has been studied and reviewed under the direction of several Ministers. The results of these activities have been consistent ---release the census. To date no complaints have been made to the National Archives for the release of censuses prior to 1911. "My support to all those who are interested in accessing the 1911 census, as is possible for prior censuses, to research the history of their communities and their families is unequivocal and I look forward to taking the issue to the next parliament", Mr Easter concluded.

Adele and All. Ted White, as an individual and as a Member of Parliament quite frankly frustrates the hell our of me! Early on in our campaign I had considerable correspondence with him. Much of that correspondence is in his log attached to the MPs Scoreboard on the Post 1901 Census Project website. I finally gave him up as a lost cause. He refuses to give a simple answer to a simple question. From his response to your message he has obviously not changed. * - he continues to refer to 'promises' that no one has been able to produce. I have personally spent most of the past six years looking for any proof of such 'promises'. Statistics Canada has been unable to produce them. Perhaps Mr. White is all-knowing and all-powerful and has been able to find these 'promises' where no-one else has been able to. If so, perhaps he is willing to share them with us. * - he has elevated himself to the point where he thinks we should have a special petition directed to him, rather than to the government through the House of Commons and the Senate. A lot of good that would do -- unless he has suddenly become omnipotent and can, in and of himself, grant or refuse the access we seek. Apparently our first petition with more than 62,000 signatures on it sent to Ottawa are not good enough for him. * - he states 'all of the evidence available at this time continues to indicate public opposition to the release' of 92-year-old Census records. BULL****!! What 'evidence' -- and where is it?? If such evidence exists I challenge Mr. White to produce it!! The Report of the Expert Panel on Access of Historic Census Records found no evidence there was ever any intention that information provided to Census would remain confidential FOREVER. They recommended release and public access of ALL Census records 92 years after collection. 151 of 157 presenters at StatCans Town Hall Meetings totally supported public access of Historic Census records, and rejected out of hand the so called 'compromise solution' presented by StatCan. A privacy advocate invited by Statistics Canada to be a presenter at the Town Hall meetings supported public access to Census records after 92 years. Questions to participants of Focus Groups were biased to obtain responses desired by StatCan. The com! pany conducting those Focus Groups stated in their reports that they could not be considered representative of Canadians as a whole. Where is your 'evidence' Mr. White? * - he wants us to 'run the wording' of our petitions past him so that he can ensure that they are 'in a format suitable for Parliament, and that it makes signatories truly aware of what they are signing'. Rest assured Mr. White -- our petitions follow government guidelines and have been passed by a lawyer working on Parliament Hill. Anyone that can read either of the official languages will have no doubt whatsoever what it is they are signing. See them for yourself at the following URL. http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm On the MPs Scoreboard Mr. White was reluctantly awarded a gold tick of support based on one response to Vivian Kranenburg. In that response he claimed that 'present privacy laws in Canada vetoes any legal means of obtaining this information'. To the contrary Mr. White, the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations make specific provision for personal information collected through Census or surveys to made available 'to any person or body for purposes of research', 92 years after collection. Don't rely without question on what Statistic Canada tells you -- read the legislation for yourself. Based on his response to Adele, Mr. White will probably return to riding the fence on the MPs Scoreboard. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Adele Turner To: Gordon Watts ; Muriel Davidson Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: FW: Message from Ted White, MP re census and more Hi: Today, I emailed all potential MP's in the Liberal, Conservative and NDP party in British Columbia. The following is an example for what I sent and following that is Ted White's response to me......and I quote: Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the Conservative Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: ajturner@shaw.ca -----Original Message----- From: Votetedwhite@aol.com [mailto:Votetedwhite@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:31 PM To: ajturner@shaw.ca Subject: Message from Ted White, MP re census and more June 17/04 Good Afternoon Ms Turner As for the Census question, you already know my position from extensive past correspondence, and the Liberal Government DID NOTHING to resolve the problem in its entire time in office, so you can not vote for them. In fairness, ALL PARTIES recognise that this is a very difficult issue because promises were made to past citizens that their information would NOT be released, so NO Party can promise to find a quick fix. As a result, you will likely have to stay at home and not vote. However, as I have suggested in past correspondence with you, I encourage you to take up a petition to support the release of the census data, because, as I have promised on numerous occasions, if you can show me that the majority of my constituents support release of the census information then I would act as an advocate. THIS GOES TO THE HEART OF THE ISSUE, because all of the evidence available at this time continues to indicate public opposition to the release. I can not, and will not, go against the wishes of the majority, so you must prove to me that you have public support for your position. If this means standing outside McDonalds gathering signatures, then that is exactly what you must do. But please, before writing your petition, run the wording past me, so that I can ensure that it is in a format suitable for Parliament, and that it makes signatories truly aware of what they are signing. Yours truly Ted White, MP